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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Eschaton on September 23, 2013, 01:02:09 PM

Title: SteamOS
Post by: Eschaton on September 23, 2013, 01:02:09 PM: http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/

:sabu
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: archie4208 on September 23, 2013, 01:03:20 PM: Sweet. Something I can shill as much as MCD.

Maybe we can swap viral tips. :-*
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 01:03:57 PM: Oh ffs
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Pringo on September 23, 2013, 01:24:13 PM: I think the most interesting thing about this is that it's an OS specifically designed around a TV rather than a traditional PC. I've wanted an HTPC-centric OS for a while now and if this actually works well in practice it could fill that niche better than Windows is doing.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2013, 01:25:31 PM: (http://replygif.net/i/427.gif)

Oh God yes. :rejoice
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: MCD on September 23, 2013, 01:25:44 PM: Through the power of #SteamOS you'll soon be able to buy a bad computer to stream games from your good computer http://bit.ly/19tPzrh

https://twitter.com/JustinMcElroy/status/382191152536895488
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Brehvolution on September 23, 2013, 01:28:03 PM: :beli
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: demi on September 23, 2013, 01:30:05 PM: lol...
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: brob on September 23, 2013, 01:31:50 PM: lol Shark Johnson, Valve doesn't care about HL3. It's just a joke they teasingly allude to every so often without making any commitments, much like a wife who married for socioeconomic reasons.

-

Imagine that, Valve decided that the "environment best suited" to Steam is one it owns and controls fully.
‏@ibogost
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 23, 2013, 01:32:12 PM: (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/KParrott/spanky_zpsc2194914.png)
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 23, 2013, 01:34:09 PM: :snoop
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: cool breeze on September 23, 2013, 01:34:40 PM: Quote
In-home Streaming

You can play all your Windows and Mac games on your SteamOS machine, too. Just turn on your existing computer and run Steam as you always have - then your SteamOS machine can stream those games over your home network straight to your TV!

It's a platform to play the limited Linux library natively, or stream your Windows PC (or Mac, running Windows) to.

That's not too bad if you can use it with a dongle and it effectively becomes a wireless HDMI device.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Tasty on September 23, 2013, 01:36:33 PM: I wanna see these supposed AAA 2014 games coming natively to Linux/SteamOS.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: brob on September 23, 2013, 01:37:59 PM: Source 2 is prolly gonna centered around making it as easy as possible to make games run natively in linux.

Just think of all those Valve employees, working hard on linux dev tools, not for a single second thinking about Half Life. :teehee
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 01:40:30 PM: Quote from: Andrex on September 23, 2013, 01:36:33 PM
I wanna see these supposed AAA 2014 games coming natively to Linux/SteamOS.

L4D3
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 23, 2013, 01:44:53 PM: Whats the point of this?
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 23, 2013, 01:47:33 PM: :yeshrug
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: brob on September 23, 2013, 01:55:05 PM: samsung might jump on something like that
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 23, 2013, 01:55:35 PM: I'm guessing the announcements are SteamOS + Source 2 + L4D3
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 01:55:56 PM: Quote from: Eschaton on September 23, 2013, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: Premium Lager on September 23, 2013, 01:44:53 PM
Whats the point of this?

Cuz fuck Microsoft :yeshrug

Imagine a SteamOS HTPC built into a TV though :rejoice

No gaems :shaq
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 01:59:06 PM: Quote from: Eschaton on September 23, 2013, 01:56:59 PM
....yet

:shaq2

You are right 2023 is going to be awesome :rejoice
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Huff on September 23, 2013, 02:00:53 PM: yeah I'm not really seeing a benefit
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: brob on September 23, 2013, 02:06:55 PM: Quote from: Huff on September 23, 2013, 02:00:53 PM
yeah I'm not really seeing a benefit

I suspect they are trying to expand their platform. Samsung using SteamOS for whatever feature set they want in their TVs, etc. It's centered around games at the moment, but Valve is probably interested in making something that is flexible enough to deal with whatevs be it streaming media or apps or whatever else that might emerge over time as a worthwhile feature to have built-in to a TV.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Rufus on September 23, 2013, 02:11:37 PM: Quote from: Huff on September 23, 2013, 02:00:53 PM
yeah I'm not really seeing a benefit
You can leave your desktop where it is and don't have to run an HDMI cable for comfy couch gaming. That's something, provided the latency is bearable. Good for those who care about it, I guess.

And this, I suppose.
Quote
In SteamOS, we have achieved significant performance increases in graphics processing, and we’re now targeting audio performance and reductions in input latency at the operating system level. Game developers are already taking advantage of these gains as they target SteamOS for their new releases.

But who knows what that even means. I'm not expecting much.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: mjemirzian on September 23, 2013, 02:12:31 PM: Seems like a solution in search of a problem.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Rufus on September 23, 2013, 02:14:06 PM: Now I'm expecting one of the announcements to be about hardware recommendations or something along those lines. SteamOS seal of approval for A, B and C-tier performance.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 23, 2013, 02:14:37 PM: ITT: Consoletards gettin' scared, catchin' feels. :smug
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 02:20:03 PM: If Valve really wanted to wow me, they would have gone after Japanese devs doujin or otherwise, to put more Japanese games on Steam.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Huff on September 23, 2013, 02:21:42 PM: My issue is that I don't use my computer only for gaming. So it's not like I can just get rid of windows.

So this is nice for the people with a dedicated gaming only pc?
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 02:22:29 PM: It's for console tards who can't into computers.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: hampster on September 23, 2013, 02:25:13 PM: You know, all the in home streaming and second screen stuff going around the industry shows how ahead of the curve Nintendo is :smug
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Rufus on September 23, 2013, 02:25:39 PM: You can dual-boot for sure. You're not going to look at spreadsheets on your TV.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Diunx on September 23, 2013, 02:28:00 PM: lol
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 23, 2013, 02:31:41 PM: Quote from: mjemirzian on September 23, 2013, 02:12:31 PM
Seems like a solution in search of a problem.

I think the Steambox itself with this os or this os installed in smart tv's is supposed to be the solution to the media/gaming set top box problem but I still feel unless the price is radically affordable they have very little chance of actually capturing a significant portion of the market. Like I've always said I still don't understand who the steam box is aimed at. Dedicated consoles have an established audience to try to use as a trojan horse. Apple is the ultimate trojan horse. Even smart Tv's are a new trojan horse. But the community that steam already serves seems squarely aimed at the desktop hardcore niche but profitable gaming audience. I don't see them being able to out maneuver the others.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: ToxicAdam on September 23, 2013, 03:34:36 PM: I know it's been 10 years since it's release, but it took Valve a long-ass time to get Steam into shape. It would be a mistake to think this thing is going to be rock solid right from the start. Early adopters are going to be the beta testers.

I consider myself a PC gamer, but I have no desire to play in my living room. My lonely, little dark man cave with my screen 18 inches away from my face is kind of what I prefer.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 23, 2013, 03:37:20 PM: :piss linux :piss2

:piss :gaben :piss2

HOW ABOUT FIXING YOUR REGULAR FUCKING CLIENT FIRST, YOU ASSHOLE
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 23, 2013, 04:04:24 PM: Quote from: ToxicAdam on September 23, 2013, 03:34:36 PM
I consider myself a PC gamer, but I have no desire to play in my living room. My lonely, little dark man cave with my screen 18 inches away from my face is kind of what I prefer.

I think the vast overwhelming majority of PC gamers are the same way and the casual types would even be far more reluctant to be using their PC on the TV if it remotely involves a keyboard or mouse. That's what tablets are for. I think all this big picture stuff is a lot of work to satisfy a very tiny percentage of the market but its their business.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 23, 2013, 04:43:39 PM: Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on September 23, 2013, 03:37:20 PM
:piss linux :piss2

:piss :gaben :piss2

HOW ABOUT FIXING YOUR REGULAR FUCKING CLIENT FIRST, YOU ASSHOLE

(http://www.buzzom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Facebook_Like_Button_Mejias_s.jpg)
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: demi on September 23, 2013, 04:54:41 PM: (http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Unsure-Larry-David.gif)
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Trent Dole on September 23, 2013, 05:36:39 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nr760Bw7o0
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Polari on September 23, 2013, 05:49:07 PM: Well. This could be good, but considering how much the client still sucks I have little faith that Valve can produce something competent enough for the mainstream.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Purple Filth on September 23, 2013, 06:09:57 PM: Quote from: Polari on September 23, 2013, 05:49:07 PM
Well. This could be good, but considering how much the client still sucks I have little faith that Valve can produce something competent enough for the mainstream.

How's big picture?
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: radioheadrule83 on September 23, 2013, 06:15:16 PM: To be any good I'd think they'd have to be somewhat closed at least in terms of compatible hardware drivers / benchmarks, and preventing piracy and malicious attacks. In that sense I don't think they can avoid going against everything that Linux stands for.

Of course, I don't expect regular gamers would give a shit but Linus Torvalds and his friends are probably going to tear this thing a new asshole for essentially being what Valve would claim to be avoiding on Windows 8 machines.

If it's all open, fair enough, but all the linux gaming talk at recent events appears to me as hollow unless they continue to support other distros with a client as good as steamOS, otherwise they've just forked and hijacked it really. It's another Android in that respect - somebody commercializing in the space for a specific purpose.

I'm willing to be impressed by it, especially in terms of cost etc.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: radioheadrule83 on September 23, 2013, 06:16:28 PM: edit: derp
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 23, 2013, 07:38:08 PM: Quote from: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 02:20:03 PM
If Valve really wanted to wow me, they would have gone after Japanese devs doujin or otherwise, to put more Japanese games on Steam.

Agarest Wars is out in a couple weeks, bro!
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 07:45:40 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 23, 2013, 07:38:08 PM
Quote from: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 02:20:03 PM
If Valve really wanted to wow me, they would have gone after Japanese devs doujin or otherwise, to put more Japanese games on Steam.

Agarest Wars is out in a couple weeks, bro!

I know I bought it...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:fbm
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Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: patrickula on September 23, 2013, 08:50:58 PM: "reductions in input latency at the operating system level" seems aimed directly at the Oculus Rift or other VR input devices... though I don't know how that fits into the living room.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Himu on September 23, 2013, 09:10:05 PM: Why do so many people have problem with Steam client in this thread? ???
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 23, 2013, 09:15:19 PM: Aside from the fact that I seem to have to restart Steam due to an update every 1-2 days, I think it is fine.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Himu on September 23, 2013, 09:16:30 PM: What is with the updates recently? I mean Jesus. It's like daily now.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 09:17:28 PM: Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 23, 2013, 09:16:30 PM
What is with the updates recently? I mean Jesus. It's like daily now.

It updates at least a few times a day it seems. :shaq
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: patrickula on September 23, 2013, 09:21:48 PM: Quote from: Eschaton on September 23, 2013, 08:56:16 PM
Quote from: patrickula on September 23, 2013, 08:50:58 PM
"reductions in input latency at the operating system level" seems aimed directly at the Oculus Rift or other VR input devices... though I don't know how that fits into the living room.
Even if that was the case, if the end goal is ostensibly a purely PC gaming focused OS....... why not?
Yeah I'm just hung up on the way they're framing this. It's probably just something they're thinking of a bit further down the road and. A Steambox/VR package make could jumping into VR a lot less intimidating for the curious.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: D3RANG3D on September 23, 2013, 09:31:40 PM: So when is the download for SteamOS gonna be a thing.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
2015?
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Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: patrickula on September 23, 2013, 09:36:43 PM: I also have doubts about the UI... Big Picture is pretty nice but they've been mostly snoozing on Steam proper for awhile.
Maybe they're waiting for a big overhaul when the OS comes out but their supposed lack of corporate organization doesn't make me too confident. If everyone's hyped on SteamOS and DOTA, why work on that lame old and busted Steam client?

That said, console and streamer UIs aren't usually all that great anyway so it might not be a huge issue when it comes to being competitive with other TV-centric devices.
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Positive Touch on September 23, 2013, 09:49:49 PM: :lol the fuck?
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 23, 2013, 09:57:52 PM: from that diagram

O [O ] O+O

So....

> OS announcement
> Gabecube announcement
> Crossplay announcement

?
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: archie4208 on September 23, 2013, 10:16:58 PM: SteamOS
Gabecube
Source 2
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 23, 2013, 10:22:59 PM: SteamOS
GladOS
Half-Life 3 iOS
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: pilonv1 on September 24, 2013, 12:43:07 AM: What if they're skipping Source 2 and going straight to Source 3?
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: cool breeze on September 24, 2013, 03:11:58 AM: What if Half Life 3 is a movie? can't think of a better way to connect the dots for customers who want steam in the living-room than a motion picture
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 24, 2013, 04:00:41 AM: I think they should make Half-Life 3 a motion comic starring Gordon's brother JOHN FREEMAN
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 24, 2013, 09:51:39 AM: 2013 Valve is 2005 Nintendo. :'(
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Brehvolution on September 24, 2013, 10:56:15 AM: (http://www.amk.to/images/articles/default/189021-1379762463.gif)
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: archie4208 on September 24, 2013, 12:27:51 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDUvFRKYYcg&

:rofl
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 24, 2013, 12:45:25 PM: Holy shit @ Ouya dig :lol
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: pilonv1 on September 24, 2013, 09:51:11 PM: :rofl that may be the best one yet
Title: Re: SteamOS
Post by: mjemirzian on September 26, 2013, 10:07:45 PM: More support for Linux gaming is good long term. Seems like Gabe isn't waiting around for Windows to turn into an 'always online' locked down walled garden.