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Title: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2013, 12:05:11 AM
The thing about words is that they're very inflexible things. If you push, you will be pushed back. If you start conflict, conflict will find you. I realize that a lot of posts I make are opinionated and sometimes lacking in tact with far too much candor; I'll try to correct that.

What are things that you need to improve on? Post in this thread and we will help each other.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2013, 12:11:38 AM
I appreciate that.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 25, 2013, 12:18:29 AM
I want people to be receptive of my love for cartoon women. I mean, I know that's not, like, a really big problem when you think about people starving in Africa or whatever, but it's still important to me personally.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2013, 12:22:03 AM
I'm fine with my personality. However, I'm working on killing my ego. I'm tired of fighting people just by my use of language.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Raban on September 25, 2013, 02:47:20 AM
well on a message board, what else is there to do but pick apart the words people choose to publish?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 25, 2013, 02:55:23 AM
My ass is still really fat.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Rufus on September 25, 2013, 05:23:17 AM
well on a message board, what else is there to do but pick apart the words people choose to publish?
Pretty much.

I started with something mundane, like turning off the crutch that is spell check. So far it's going OK, but it does show that I have been relying on it too much.

Next would be verbosity.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2013, 07:03:04 AM
My ass is still really fat.

There is nothing wrong with a fat ass. Relish it. Wear tighter bottoms.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2013, 07:03:40 AM
well on a message board, what else is there to do but pick apart the words people choose to publish?

Said nothing about message boards.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 25, 2013, 07:05:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL5sdu3pNrU
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Dickie Dee on September 25, 2013, 07:17:59 AM
My ass is still really fat.

I read that first as "flat" and was like  :beli

Then read it again and was like :phil
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Positive Touch on September 25, 2013, 07:37:36 AM
My ass is still really fat.

thats a good thing, boy :phil
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Eric P on September 25, 2013, 08:30:35 AM
i disagree.  i think you can change your language and your attitude which will do much to change your image by extension.
i used to be a very different person in my youth.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: headwalk on September 25, 2013, 08:33:38 AM
just keep a memento mori next to your monitor to remind you that all your successes, hopes and ambitions are just as temporary as your failures, fears and disappointments. then grow your hair out and go surfing.



Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: bork on September 25, 2013, 10:59:47 AM
I'm changing up my personality and going straight-up GANGSTA, BITCH.  Ya'll niccas can't fuck wit dis.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 25, 2013, 11:32:19 AM
I'm changing up my personality and going straight-up GANGSTA, BITCH.  Ya'll niccas can't fuck wit dis.

u wot, m8? r u avin a giggle, m8?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 25, 2013, 11:41:05 AM
Most people are opinionated online, I've only felt you were acting ridiculous a handful of times. I've acted similarly before as have others. Just remember no one is trying to attack you, therefore there's no point in being aggressive while you defend your opinions here.

Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 25, 2013, 12:15:34 PM
What prompted this?

You can be something of a drama queen but I like teasing you cause I know you can take it (usually.)
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: bork on September 25, 2013, 12:20:58 PM
I'm changing up my personality and going straight-up GANGSTA, BITCH.  Ya'll niccas can't fuck wit dis.

u wot, m8? r u avin a giggle, m8?

PLAYA HATERZ GET AWAY OR MY LEAD WILL SPRAY :gun
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 25, 2013, 12:38:47 PM
As for myself I think I've done a good job of being less sensitive (thanks, Bore) but I still catch feels sometimes when I shouldn't.

I also don't like how much of a troll I've become lately (also thanks, Bore) and a lot of my posts (especially on GAF) are a lot shorter and really intellectually lazy. I don't know why but even when there's a chance to discuss something I usually just resort to posting a Coli smiley. Surprised I haven't been banned for it yet, actually.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2013, 12:52:17 PM
well on a message board, what else is there to do but pick apart the words people choose to publish?

Said nothing about message boards.

Here you go creating conflict. You said, "posts." What else would you be referring to?

Whoops. You're right. My mistake! I meant life in general, on what you're trying to improve. Not so much just your persona on the internet, but your persona off the net as well, to become a better person. What are you guys doing to try to achieve this?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Mupepe on September 25, 2013, 01:13:57 PM
I think I come off as weird sometimes.  I've been trying to fix that.  It's mostly because I hate awkward silences so I'll just say shit and sometimes I didn't quite think them through.  This actually seems to have a range of effects.  Sometimes people think I'm funny and outgoing.  Sometimes they think I'm an asshole.  It's a toss up.  I've just been trying to think a little more carefully first so I can land more in the "funny and outgoing" category.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2013, 01:15:10 PM
I always thought they were funny. :yeshrug
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Mupepe on September 25, 2013, 01:17:03 PM
I always thought they were funny. :yeshrug
And that's why I love you.  You understand me.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Mandark on September 25, 2013, 01:17:47 PM
well on a message board, what else is there to do but pick apart the words people choose to publish?

Said nothing about message boards.

Here you go creating conflict. You said, "posts." What else would you be referring to?

grindr?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2013, 01:19:53 PM
Oh right! I made a grindr account. I should check in my inbox and post the funny messages.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2013, 01:24:22 PM
No new messages. :( Oh well. Time to delete this Herpes Invitation App.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Diunx on September 25, 2013, 01:37:32 PM
My personality sucks, I used to get by thanks to my killer body in my youth but I'm a fat ass now, working on that though.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2013, 02:01:21 PM
What do you not like about your personality?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 25, 2013, 02:07:18 PM
Himu is the most confrontational former Muslim african american pre-op transgender bisexual person I know.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Diunx on September 25, 2013, 02:08:44 PM
I don't talk much which is apparently a big problem in the professional and social worlds, I don't like most of the people I meet and suck at hiding it which also brings a lot of problems.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Huff on September 25, 2013, 03:48:30 PM
Weirdly, this relates as I was "reprimanded" for being too light hearted in practice patient interviews today.

I need tips on being bland and boring
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: brob on September 25, 2013, 04:10:37 PM
Weirdly, this relates as I was "reprimanded" for being too light hearted in practice patient interviews today.

I need tips on being bland and boring

whenever you think of something you want to say, first consider:

1. does this need to be said?
2. does this need to be said by me?
3. does this need to be said now?

If yes to all, say it, if not, don't.

Congrats, you are now drab as fuck.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Shadow Mod on September 25, 2013, 04:21:37 PM
If Himu gets confrontational and pissy on here I just think, lol welcome to girl hormones.

 :-*
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 25, 2013, 07:10:01 PM
In recent weeks, I've been trying to curb my negativity and cynicism.  It was one of the things people kept bringing up in a strengths/weaknesses discussion for one of my classes when I was interviewing co-workers.

I figured it was best to move from negativity to neutrality to positivity.  So expect a lot more Stoney type posts from me in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Shadow Mod on September 25, 2013, 07:55:04 PM
Buddhism lite?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: chronovore on September 25, 2013, 07:58:38 PM
I am judgmental and prissy; I am easily lured into righteous indignation. I'm working on it.

If Himu gets confrontational and pissy on here I just think, lol welcome to girl hormones.

 :-*

Yeah, I think Himumu's got some hormone adjustment going on, but this has been just an amped up version of her previous self, in terms of reactions.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Atramental on September 25, 2013, 08:03:39 PM
I need to stop posting the first thoughts that pop into my head.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Shadow Mod on September 25, 2013, 08:05:54 PM
I just need to socialize more with people around me more often to distract myself from the stupid. That and watch more documentaries since I learn things from those. I haven't really been learning much in my time spent online. Shit not worth knowing anyway. I don't need to tell IRL people about pamperchu for instance.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: chronovore on September 25, 2013, 08:09:20 PM
Why did I google that?

 :stahp
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Atramental on September 25, 2013, 08:09:40 PM
Oh, that reminds me.

I need to stop dumping an encyclopedia book worth of knowledge of internet shit when someone I know IRL brings up shit like "pamperchu" or Chris-Chan.

I get that "Oh my god, you're a total internet special fellow." look from them.   :(

It's been months since I've done that but I really should keep that shit to myself.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Shadow Mod on September 25, 2013, 08:13:51 PM
Why did I google that?

 :stahp

Shit sorry that was no better.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 25, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
Stoney seems more like the neutral path to me. It could be positive, it could be negative :obama

The generally neutral post tone approach is both half a reflection of how I really am and how I want to be. Most posts I make are generally the 3rd version of that post. The first two are generally far more snarky and assholish. After I read them though I'm generally embarrassed and try for the tone of a rationale human being. Also I outright reject and eventually delete or don't make about half my posts. After about 5 minutes I realize whatever I wanted to post in the heat of the moment was ill-advised.

If I could improve anything it would be the amount of times I just walk away from an argument both online and real life especially if I'm annoyed. I'm better at it than I've ever been but occasionally somebody pisses me off and then the underneath asshole comes to the surface.

 
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Positive Touch on September 25, 2013, 08:32:40 PM
typing up the first shit that pops into your head and saying fuck the consequences is the best way to internet
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Atramental on September 25, 2013, 09:17:15 PM
Well, the last time I went on a spree of not giving a shit about what I said on the internet this happened:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435270

 :heh

Though, I still get bizarre and terrifying dreams over the whole ordeal. Probably because my current job is comprised primarily of BJU grads. 

I really need to leave this area ASAP. :noah
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 25, 2013, 09:48:03 PM
look at all these wankers taking shit way the fuck too seriously in here

Eh, well, I'm not even talking about online. I'm talking about life in general. Surely you would like to improve something about yourself? Sorry the first post was just lacking in details.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Positive Touch on September 25, 2013, 09:49:47 PM
I really need a psychologist and an ass whuppin ASAP.

indeed
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Atramental on September 25, 2013, 10:02:00 PM
I have a lot of needs.

I bet I'll be making Martin Raperman-esque posts in the not so distant future If I don't get my shit sorted out soon.  :fbm
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 25, 2013, 10:34:18 PM
Did you at least upper-deck a few toilets on the way out of Bob Jones? I'm sure it would have made you feel better.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Steve Contra on September 25, 2013, 10:49:45 PM
I have a lot of needs.

I bet I'll be making Martin Raperman-esque posts in the not so distant future If I don't get my shit sorted out soon.  :fbm
At least you're quite a ways away from making real life Father Mike/Buffalo Bill decisions.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Atramental on September 25, 2013, 10:59:38 PM
Did you at least upper-deck a few toilets on the way out of Bob Jones? I'm sure it would have made you feel better.
My rebellious nature is much more passive-aggressive.

I'll talk shit behind your back but I won't shit in your toilet's tank. 
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: chronovore on September 25, 2013, 11:12:31 PM
look at all these wankers taking shit way the fuck too seriously in here

Oscar, I'm going to send you some AKB48 postcards, and a Steve Jobs dakimakura. Fulfill ALL yo' needs.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Shaka Khan on September 25, 2013, 11:57:04 PM
Somewhat unrelated, but I saw this picture and thought of you, Himu:

(http://i.imgur.com/Xz4cUIe.png)

Never change.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Sausage on September 26, 2013, 12:11:42 AM
Oh, that reminds me.

I need to stop dumping an encyclopedia book worth of knowledge of internet shit when someone I know IRL brings up shit like "pamperchu" or Chris-Chan.

I get that "Oh my god, you're a total internet special fellow." look from them.   :(

It's been months since I've done that but I really should keep that shit to myself.

I shared that pamperchu screen cap with my friends. Usually when I show them fucked up internet shit they laugh and say shit like "bro where do you find this shit?"

This time tho, no response  :-\
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Shadow Mod on September 26, 2013, 01:19:47 AM
Oh, that reminds me.

I need to stop dumping an encyclopedia book worth of knowledge of internet shit when someone I know IRL brings up shit like "pamperchu" or Chris-Chan.

I get that "Oh my god, you're a total internet special fellow." look from them.   :(

It's been months since I've done that but I really should keep that shit to myself.

I shared that pamperchu screen cap with my friends. Usually when I show them fucked up internet shit they laugh and say shit like "bro where do you find this shit?"

This time tho, no response  :-\

That's when you know you've scarred them for life homie.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: bork on September 26, 2013, 11:15:29 AM
look at all these wankers taking shit way the fuck too seriously in here

The fuck are you on about?  Most of the canceled stuff is public knowledge via people's resumes and LinkedIn.  Go google a little bit.

And don't you fucking EVER dare to put the "anti-Japan" shtick in my mouth.  I never said it, and I never would.  You little piece of shit.

 :gurl
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 26, 2013, 11:33:28 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 26, 2013, 11:45:26 AM
Guys, it's 2013. For people who are turning 18 (born in 1995) this year, there never was a separation between real life and the internet. It's all one in the same. We will be judged for our internet sins.

Not as long as we are in power.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 26, 2013, 11:49:47 AM
Stoney seems more like the neutral path to me. It could be positive, it could be negative :obama

"I felt good today, but I can understand why I felt bad today as well"
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 26, 2013, 12:26:49 PM
look at all these wankers taking shit way the fuck too seriously in here

The fuck are you on about?  Most of the canceled stuff is public knowledge via people's resumes and LinkedIn.  Go google a little bit.

And don't you fucking EVER dare to put the "anti-Japan" shtick in my mouth.  I never said it, and I never would.  You little piece of shit.

 :gurl

(http://i.imgur.com/uqKGeNr.gif)
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 26, 2013, 12:34:27 PM
:dead
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 26, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
So is Oscar gonna quit The Bore now like he quit NeoGAF over the Donkey Kong Country smackdown?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 26, 2013, 03:56:54 PM
Not like this. Not like this. :tocry
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Yeti on September 26, 2013, 04:31:38 PM
What is the Donkey Kong Country Smackdown?  ???
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Verdigris Murder on September 26, 2013, 04:32:45 PM
Basically every motherfucker is his/her own Sonderweg theory on the Internet. Every motherfucker be needin' to keep their pimphand strong and righteous, to slap down any motherfucker that be a'raining on any gay parade, figurative or literal.

The Sonderweg theory does apply to an awful lot of stuff online though, Facebook and forums and forum personas are spring to kind things, thought all casual like.

On Stringers Bells theory. I guess?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Verdigris Murder on September 26, 2013, 04:52:22 PM
Also when your're getting regular sex, you tend to give less of a fuck. I think that's because everyone needs companionship, and when there are many folks out there without that, and if you factor in the anonymity of the Internet, you actually have a fairly unhealthy combo.
Some dudes in the orient did a test on Internet and they decided that anger on the Internet spreads faster than feelings of joy, and that it also is rewiring one of the lobes in the brain, the one which deals with knowledge retention.
Anyway.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 26, 2013, 05:04:39 PM
look at all these wankers taking shit way the fuck too seriously in here

The fuck are you on about?  Most of the canceled stuff is public knowledge via people's resumes and LinkedIn.  Go google a little bit.

And don't you fucking EVER dare to put the "anti-Japan" shtick in my mouth.  I never said it, and I never would.  You little piece of shit.

 :gurl

Total annihilation.  It's been a while.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Rufus on September 26, 2013, 07:11:05 PM
Poe's law, mold creature. :gurl
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Rufus on September 26, 2013, 07:42:34 PM
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c121/KParrott/spanky_zpsc2194914.png)
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Shadow Mod on September 26, 2013, 07:44:33 PM
also my donkey kong scapegoat threw a Nintard into such a depressive spiral that he threatened to kill himself repeatedly and eventually got himself banned from the GAFs, so all I can say is that plan went better than expected

If that was the plan all along why not return?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 26, 2013, 07:46:08 PM
:lol
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 26, 2013, 08:11:04 PM

also my donkey kong scapegoat threw a Nintard into such a depressive spiral that he threatened to kill himself repeatedly and eventually got himself banned from the GAFs, so all I can say is that plan went better than expected

If that was the plan all along why not return?

no, that wasn't the plan, just an unexpected bonus.  you guys know why I left.  I think even if king tyler were dethroned, I wouldn't go back.  kind of would feel like being the weird old guy at the nightclub.  average age there is easily more than ten years younger than me.

Are you saying that isn't the case here?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 26, 2013, 09:00:13 PM
GET OFF MY LAWN
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 26, 2013, 09:27:18 PM
GET OFF MY LAWN

finding out i was older than you was one of the most disappointing days of my life, triumph  :'(

It's ok, you're only as old as you feel, and I guarantee that you feel younger than me, since I've pretty much felt dead for the past 10 years.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 26, 2013, 11:54:30 PM
What? I thought Oscar was younger.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 27, 2013, 12:12:38 AM
I'm still here every now and again - pulling that average age up for the "olds"
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 27, 2013, 12:19:49 AM
What? I thought Oscar was younger.

I think he's a year or two older than me.  I look probably 5-10 years older, though, as I've done a lot of what could be called "rough living"
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 27, 2013, 12:24:05 AM
Fun fact: COG's avatar is a picture of himself at the tender age of 23.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 27, 2013, 12:28:19 AM
I wish I had as much hair as Samuel Beckett...
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 27, 2013, 01:24:16 AM
Sheeeeit.  I am older than you, young'n.  36 here.  You can go back to being happy.

And while you're at it, GET THE FUCK OFF MY LAWN.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 01:30:33 AM
OLD PEOPLE
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 27, 2013, 01:32:42 AM
i turn 40 at the end of the year. suiciding
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 27, 2013, 01:43:49 AM
39 in Feb too !

</cue Pink Floyd's "Time">

Bring it on ! I'm emotionally still 14 anyways! ;)
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 27, 2013, 01:44:50 AM
And just like that, I'm way less decrepit :jawalrus
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 01:45:51 AM
I just turned 22. I'm getting too fricking old. :fbm
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: benjipwns on September 27, 2013, 01:51:30 AM
I'm really a five thousand year old demon, so that makes it okay to look up my skirt.  :uguu
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 27, 2013, 01:56:38 AM
what was i doing at 22? that seems a lifetime ago.... 16 years back makes it 1997

hmm - 1997...

Nearly destroyed my finals prep by buying an N64 and Mario 64, secured a job - moved to London, graduated, was with a different lady friend to the one i'm with now, moved into a house in Streatham with 3 young women, played FF7 and enjoyed it without shame, had no internet connection, went to Hong Kong, played Futsal at a decent level, incorrectly diagnosed with a heart murmur um.... pretty dull all round really. Oh Princess Diana died and i was in the minority of not particularly caring at all, this apparently made me some sort of heartless monster :/
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 27, 2013, 01:59:45 AM
22- I almost died in a car accident that summer, head bashed into my windshield and I bled a lot.  Six months later, I picked a sliver of glass out of my forehead. 

I also moved into an apartment with a bunch of my friends, and some strippers moved in next door.  WE ATE ALL THE DRUGS AND LISTENED TO ALL THE DRUM AND BASS.  So, it's not surprising that I don't really remember much else that happened that year.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Raban on September 27, 2013, 02:11:23 AM
ha, i wasted 22.  i think i was doing stupid games journo shit and planned on making it a career.  spent entire weekends drinking at the bar.  finished out the year starting work on a gba game that ended up never being finished.  the good news is the month after i turned 23 i got my head back into the game.
god I hope this happens for me
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 02:19:58 AM
what was i doing at 22? that seems a lifetime ago.... 16 years back makes it 1997

hmm - 1997...

Nearly destroyed my finals prep by buying an N64 and Mario 64, secured a job - moved to London, graduated, was with a different lady friend to the one i'm with now, moved into a house in Streatham with 3 young women, played FF7 and enjoyed it without shame, had no internet connection, went to Hong Kong, played Futsal at a decent level, incorrectly diagnosed with a heart murmur um.... pretty dull all round really. Oh Princess Diana died and i was in the minority of not particularly caring at all, this apparently made me some sort of heartless monster :/

Where were you before London? US? Other-UK?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 02:20:47 AM
ha, i wasted 22.  i think i was doing stupid games journo shit and planned on making it a career.  spent entire weekends drinking at the bar.  finished out the year starting work on a gba game that ended up never being finished.  the good news is the month after i turned 23 i got my head back into the game.

Oh? What happened?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 02:34:46 AM
Turn 28 next month. Surprisingly okay with that.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 02:34:56 AM
ha, i wasted 22.  i think i was doing stupid games journo shit and planned on making it a career.  spent entire weekends drinking at the bar.  finished out the year starting work on a gba game that ended up never being finished.  the good news is the month after i turned 23 i got my head back into the game.

Oh? What happened?

that's when i realized i didn't see a future in the games industry and finally went to university.

What for? Writing?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 02:35:43 AM
ha, i wasted 22.  i think i was doing stupid games journo shit and planned on making it a career.  spent entire weekends drinking at the bar.  finished out the year starting work on a gba game that ended up never being finished.  the good news is the month after i turned 23 i got my head back into the game.

Oh? What happened?

that's when i realized i didn't see a future in the games industry and finally went to university.

What for? Writing?

Psychology. Surprised you don't know this, we talk about stuff like this in the gaf thread. Oscar's fascination with psychology and trying to help people who need it is well documented.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 02:40:48 AM
I can't tell if you're yanking my chain.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 02:43:57 AM
Anyways, related to this thread. This week I've been telling myself when I wake up that life is great, and I'm glad to be here. Just telling myself that I'm worth in my head makes a world of difference. I'm definitely smiling more often -  a lot more, for no reason other than to be here. Hopefully I can keep at it, it's definitely been a great week, with some lows, and some highs, but that's life and it's what you make of it. Didn't pay the mortgage in time, and that's bad news. But I've managed to get it paid this week with hard work and pinching pennies. I got a second job, and that's great news.

At the very least, the Himu Pinko is turning on the philosophies section again. It's been about...four to five years so that seems about right. Humanism by itself, while liberating, has no backbone and feels limiting.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 02:44:39 AM
I can't tell if you're yanking my chain.

I'm very disappointed at your ability to read people and their passions. You should correct this.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 27, 2013, 02:53:18 AM
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Where were you before London? US? Other-UK?

Hometown --> Liverpool --> London --> Tokyo

All UK except for the last one

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ha, i wasted 22.  i think i was doing stupid games journo shit and planned on making it a career.  spent entire weekends drinking at the bar.  finished out the year starting work on a gba game that ended up never being finished.  the good news is the month after i turned 23 i got my head back into the game.

my plan at 22 was : make my fortune until i was 35 then switch over into gaming. The truth is the closest i came to this was a) a first round informal chat with Psygnosis and, lol, recent first cut interviews with Cave and Konami. The Cave one was fun simply because i mentioned i liked their shmups and they shut down the chat -right there- and for Konami the opening line was "lol - why?!" followed by "you are too senior" which was the only thing they said to me in English... i thought that was to do with my experience, i was later informed by my wife that this is the coded way of saying "go home, grandad" lol.

Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 03:14:37 AM
My current plan is to work at a tech startup until it's acquired before the bubble bursts, and then reinvest that money smartly in stocks/bonds/etc. Then maybe work on my own little tech projects and see if I can grow them into a business. I really lucked out having the skillset I did when I got hired, if the bubble wasn't being inflated right now it would probably be impossible for me to find work without a college degree, and I would not have been able to get one with my family's finances. Now, since I have experience, I'm probably secure for life unless the tech industry/US economy tanks completely. (Which is a possibility, of course. We got too close for comfort in 2008... I should learn Chinese just in case, I guess, lol.)

Plans have a funny way of changing though!

I know that a long way down the line (mid-30's) I want to do pure content creation and live off that instead of programming. My own short animations, my own short movies (full indie movies?), my own short novels (and later full novels.) Gotta practice until then though, which I'm trying to do on the side right now.

yeah i was sure we'd been over this, but i have a master's degree in psych.  basically came to japan to take a one year sabbatical before going in for the phd, ended up staying here because fuck clinical psychology is a dirty business if you don't want to be penniless.

I'm really surprised I missed it if that's the case. Hmm. I usually remember details like this.

What did you do in between your Master's and current job?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: chronovore on September 27, 2013, 03:23:09 AM

GET OFF MY LAWN

finding out i was older than you was one of the most disappointing days of my life, triumph  :'(

It's ok, you're only as old as you feel, and I guarantee that you feel younger than me, since I've pretty much felt dead for the past 10 years.

You kids are cute.
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Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 27, 2013, 04:12:30 AM
30 suckers, im legit old now.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 27, 2013, 05:16:44 AM
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My current plan is to work at a tech startup until it's acquired before the bubble bursts, and then reinvest that money smartly in stocks/bonds/etc. Then maybe work on my own little tech projects and see if I can grow them into a business. I really lucked out having the skillset I did when I got hired, if the bubble wasn't being inflated right now it would probably be impossible for me to find work without a college degree, and I would not have been able to get one with my family's finances. Now, since I have experience, I'm probably secure for life unless the tech industry/US economy tanks completely. (Which is a possibility, of course. We got too close for comfort in 2008... I should learn Chinese just in case, I guess, lol.)

from my recent job hunting perspective - here's what i came out with :

any coding skill was a bonus - and if i wanted to work using anything like Java, C, C# etc then unless it was cutting edge stuff (algo trading - with ooddles of experience) then i was going to be taking a bath on salary (50%+ cut)

what got me to not have to take the bath were the business side stuff, project/product experience, management, language (stop laughing at the back!)

I had some spare time - i was going to pick up some coding qualifications .... instead i just got ITIL :/
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 27, 2013, 08:05:37 AM
I'm 28 and still don't know what I want to do yet.  So I'm doing as much certifications and education as I can until I can figure out an answer as a way of doing something productive while I figure things out.  Next year I should be done with my MBA and I'm going to get my PMP.  Then in 2015, I'll get (or try to get :( ) my PE.  Hopefully I'll have some questions answered by then.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Rufus on September 27, 2013, 08:21:52 AM
Seems to me you're succeeding.

I need to get some sort of career going before I hit 30 or I'm always going to be a bum.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 09:26:33 AM
I'm starting to work on my grad school portfolio requirements. I have about half a years time, maybe more, to master what I want to master. I need to have the utmost professionalism in my art abilities if I want to pursue this. I am going to pursue a Master Degree in Animation. I do not want to go to Grad School and learn without them; I want to make feature film quality before I graduate, such is the goal.  I can no longer live like this, I have to pursue my childhood dream before it is too late. Which, ironically, is never too late. If I fail, which is a possibility, I can still take solace in the fact that I put confidence into myself.

Good luck on everyone's journeys.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 27, 2013, 09:29:49 AM
Seems to me you're succeeding.

I need to get some sort of career going before I hit 30 or I'm always going to be a bum.

Im waiting for you in bum hell
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 09:34:07 AM
"I need to do this, I need to do that before I reach 30" is such a construct of the mind. Life is not a race. Accept that many successful people don't get their lives on the move well into their 30's and they're still happy. I felt really sad I was applying for grad school when I was 27, the realization, I'd be 30 when I finally graduated. But time marches on. Accept this.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Rufus on September 27, 2013, 09:52:03 AM
I know. But time marching on is exactly why I need to haul ass already. The longer I wait the harder it's going to be. Drifting around isn't cutting it and it's going to bite me in the ass (again).

There's a definite chance that I'll just end up disappointing myself which is going to erode what little motivation I have, but I do need to set some sort of goal. In the absence of any particular career goals an age cut-off will have to do. I'm not aiming high, although "job security" (so I can safely settle into my 'special fellow routine) seems more and more unattainable in today's environment.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: bork on September 27, 2013, 09:54:13 AM
32 here.  Old n' creaky. 

Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 27, 2013, 09:56:04 AM
Job security is pretty much dead, its all about finding a field where there is plenty of jobs.

In other words find a pond where you are the big fish.

I'm not talking about career people, just your normal average joe shit.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Rufus on September 27, 2013, 10:14:39 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking of learning a trade that's in demand (one where you're not treated like shit and paid a pittance despite the fact that you're in demand). Which I should have done before I went to university, but hindsight is 20/20.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 27, 2013, 10:16:59 AM
In hindsight I would have never gone to university but move to ireland during the big boom in 2002 after high school.

I would have been making double or triple of what I do now at least and no one would have been asking about a degree or shit.

Also I might have been stuck with a house thats in negative equity.

Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 27, 2013, 10:18:50 AM
to add : there are senior people i know - who have 20-30 years senior investment bank knowledge who are getting "a trade" - one is currently doing a plumbing qualification because
"people always need a plumber"
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 10:27:47 AM

I'm really surprised I missed it if that's the case. Hmm. I usually remember details like this.

What did you do in between your Master's and current job?

nothing really between so much, but during, i was a mental health worker for the province of manitoba.  unless you mean the english teaching job that i came out here on before i started my own school.

So you do TouchArcade on the side...?

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My current plan is to work at a tech startup until it's acquired before the bubble bursts, and then reinvest that money smartly in stocks/bonds/etc. Then maybe work on my own little tech projects and see if I can grow them into a business. I really lucked out having the skillset I did when I got hired, if the bubble wasn't being inflated right now it would probably be impossible for me to find work without a college degree, and I would not have been able to get one with my family's finances. Now, since I have experience, I'm probably secure for life unless the tech industry/US economy tanks completely. (Which is a possibility, of course. We got too close for comfort in 2008... I should learn Chinese just in case, I guess, lol.)

from my recent job hunting perspective - here's what i came out with :

any coding skill was a bonus - and if i wanted to work using anything like Java, C, C# etc then unless it was cutting edge stuff (algo trading - with ooddles of experience) then i was going to be taking a bath on salary (50%+ cut)

what got me to not have to take the bath were the business side stuff, project/product experience, management, language (stop laughing at the back!)

I had some spare time - i was going to pick up some coding qualifications .... instead i just got ITIL :/

Management/business is kinda the last thing I want to do, lol. So I know I have a ceiling when it comes to programming. It's not my end goal because of that.

I'm having trouble understanding your sentence though. Doing coding was a "bonus," but you were also taking a 50% cut by doing it?
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: bork on September 27, 2013, 10:54:17 AM
Job security is pretty much dead, its all about finding a field where there is plenty of jobs.

In other words find a pond where you are the big fish.

I'm not talking about career people, just your normal average joe shit.

That's pretty much why I ended up where I am now.  Was in Japan doing the English teaching thing on JET.  It was fun but ultimately not for me.  I finished out my three years and started job hunting, but realized I had no idea what the hell I wanted to do.  Shockingly, not much was available with a degree in East Asian Studies.  A job recruiter expressed interest in me becoming a recruiter, so I went off that and applied to some other recruiters, but nothing came of it.  Some of those places were actually kind of shady, too. 

The last straw from that came when I went out to a recruiter in Tokyo (paid 3-4 man for the trip/hotel) who asked what I was even doing there, since they only hired people with 5-10 years experience.  It was the VP of the company I spoke to in a phone interview -he knew I was seeking an entry-level position- and the president who "interviewed" me and basically made me feel like shit.   I also did try one English school and that interview was a complete joke. 

The funny thing about this is that both of the people at these two companies were former JETs themselves.  I actually got into an argument with the latter when he didn't believe how much JET was paying me.   :lol ::)  That was hilarious, looking back, since the guy came in late, dressed like a slob, and then proceeded to be completely hypocritical about everything I discussed with him before the interview.

One thing I noticed when job searching was the large amount of IT jobs available.  So I decided to go back home and go back to school.  Been working at a Help Desk since the end of 2010.  It's the lowest end of the totem pole, but has been a great start and I've learned a lot.  I work with some good people and have fun here.  Recently got promoted; feels good man, etc. etc. 

I wouldn't mind going back to Japan and miss being over there every now and then, but I also feel pretty content being here too.  If the right job opportunity came along, I'd be all for it, but I'm not interested in the English teaching thing and my Japanese is so-so, so I don't think much would be available.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 11:35:20 AM
"I need to do this, I need to do that before I reach 30" is such a construct of the mind. Life is not a race. Accept that many successful people don't get their lives on the move well into their 30's and they're still happy. I felt really sad I was applying for grad school when I was 27, the realization, I'd be 30 when I finally graduated. But time marches on. Accept this.

Honestly I was freaking out hardcore about not doing some stuff before 20. I felt like such a bum, I had basically dropped out of college due to money issues, didn't have a job, lived at home... I wasn't in the best state of mind, lol.

Things can turn around pretty damn fast though...
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 11:36:43 AM
oh boy, now that Himu has put on her philosopher chapeau again we can look forward to plenty of Wear Sunscreen posts like that one, hunh?

I have no idea what any of this means.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 27, 2013, 11:56:20 AM
26 now, looking at going back for an MBA as well.

Gotta say I'm a bit surprised at the lack of profession I've seen among some of my peers, most of whom did quite well in school but seem like social fuck ups. I remember turning my phone off during my first big internship day, but these fuckers are literally texting at their desks and then saying "oh, it's a family emergency..." Yea ok. I browse the internets at work am smart enough to only due it when I can get away with it.

One day after a meeting my boss said to me "good work, you'll be in management soon" in front of everyone, thus putting me on multiple people's shit lists.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: bork on September 27, 2013, 12:15:13 PM
One day after a meeting my boss said to me "good work, you'll be in management soon" in front of everyone, thus putting me on multiple people's shit lists.

 :lol That's awesome!

I had a former supervisor tell me "you do much better than everyone else here and you'll go far" but that was via Email.  I already see some jealousy from the promotion I got (which can best be described as a "semi-management role") and people giving me shit when I tell them to do stuff or question why they did something the way it was done.  But that was to be expected.

What kills me is how easy it is to get this promotion...yet nobody wants it.  Why would you NOT want to A) get certifications for FREE and B) a pay raise?   ??? :dizzy
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 12:16:13 PM
Yeah, I'm thinking of learning a trade that's in demand (one where you're not treated like shit and paid a pittance despite the fact that you're in demand). Which I should have done before I went to university, but hindsight is 20/20.

If you go for an in demand trade, go with something that actually interests you. It may sound cliche to say, but don't become a plumber just because it brings in the dough. Then again, being a plumber may make you happy, I don't know.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 12:20:02 PM
I really enjoyed reading about your lives, especially you in Japan or formerly in Japan. As someone who's about to graduate college and considering going overseas, it's interesting seeing how that worked out for you all and what your expectations were and how things ended up.

As for myself, I'm 28. At 22 I had just finished four years in the Air Force and was going to college for the first time. I had big plans to finish a degree in International Studies and use my security clearance to go back to the Middle East as contractor making big bucks (although I had no concrete plans for what I would do over there—my skills from the Air Force were in IT but I had no desire to do that). That didn't pan out but I did go back to the Middle East in a different capacity when I joined the Army National Guard a year and a half into college. I picked infantry for a new experience and I really enjoyed it, but it's not something I'd like to make a career.

Now I'm about to finally graduate college with that degree in International Security Studies and still have no concrete plans for what to do. I want to go overseas again. I'll probably have to go to graduate school if I want to work in my chose field of study but I haven't taken the GRE yet. I've been applying to all sorts jobs to see what the market's like and so far the only promising lead is a job building trails in rural Maine with AmeriCorps.

I was going to quit my job and join the Americorps to help pay for grad school but that didn't work out. Americorps is real tough to get into. But it is an experience I would have (probably) liked or a least appreciated.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Rufus on September 27, 2013, 12:37:57 PM
oh boy, now that Himu has put on her philosopher chapeau again we can look forward to plenty of Wear Sunscreen posts like that one, hunh?

I have no idea what any of this means.

He's talking about something like this:
If you go for an in demand trade, go with something that actually interests you. It may sound cliche to say, but don't become a plumber just because it brings in the dough. Then again, being a plumber may make you happy, I don't know.

No offense Himurin, I appreciate the response. :-*
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 12:45:17 PM
No offense taken at all. I was just saying, that, you seem concerned with money or whatever. Maybe it was because I was hit on the head a few times growing up, but it's hard for me to not come to the conclusion that a good career is something you enjoy. I know that I won't make much as an animator, at least starting out, but that should be okay.

It seems pretty en vogue for people to become an accountant or an engineer because it's what in demand and they will get a lot of money from it, even though they clearly don't enjoy doing it. I just don't want you to think, oh, I don't have a career so I should go with the thing that will bleed the most cash even if you don't like doing it.

It's very idealistic, and not the least realistic or pragmatic, but it's what I've always thought.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: bork on September 27, 2013, 12:50:08 PM
No offense taken at all. I was just saying, that, you seem concerned with money or whatever. Maybe it was because I was hit on the head a few times growing up, but it's hard for me to not come to the conclusion that a good career is something you enjoy. I know that I won't make much as an animator, at least starting out, but that should be okay.

Yeah, definitely.  I'm still where I am because somehow I actually enjoy it- this place is like a revolving door at times but I'm still here...no one I started with on this team, not counting the team manager, is even here now.   :lol  Wish I made a lot more (and there's pressure from the wife on that), but there's good benefits here and I have no need for a second car, since all train fare is paid for.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 27, 2013, 12:50:41 PM
It's funny... you can be, like super down on yourself as a person and your prospects and shit.  But making just the tiniest effort to formulate a plan to better yourself and putting it into action pays incredible dividends, at least in my recent life experience. 

I'll be done with a shitty associates degree next May and have decided I really want to keep at it and go for another 2-3 years to get an actual degree in accounting and get licensed as a CPA.  My adviser thinks I'd make a great auditor and the field interests me.  It sucks because I really need to get out of my current living situation and away from my family, so as soon as I'm done with school I'm bolting back to GA and will probably get a job as a shitty receivables/payables clerk for a couple of years, then go back to get my bachelor's when I'm just shy of 40.  I certainly didn't plan for things to go this way, but oh well.  At least I'm lurching in a better direction now as opposed to wallowing in my own stupidity.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 01:50:55 PM
No offense taken at all. I was just saying, that, you seem concerned with money or whatever. Maybe it was because I was hit on the head a few times growing up, but it's hard for me to not come to the conclusion that a good career is something you enjoy. I know that I won't make much as an animator, at least starting out, but that should be okay.

It seems pretty en vogue for people to become an accountant or an engineer because it's what in demand and they will get a lot of money from it, even though they clearly don't enjoy doing it. I just don't want you to think, oh, I don't have a career so I should go with the thing that will bleed the most cash even if you don't like doing it.

It's very idealistic, and not the least realistic or pragmatic, but it's what I've always thought.

Well, like it or not, money factors into most people's happiness in life. For some people, it's worth the trade off working paycheck to paycheck doing what you love. But if you want a house, and/or a family, or even comfort in the knowledge that you can make it through a couple months if you're badly injured, then it's not viable. You can still have net positive life happiness working a shitty job if it allows you to have or do things that you otherwise couldn't without your job.

Basically, the idea of virtue through poverty is romantic but not really viable once you try living it. (https://medium.com/armchair-economics/a29bf287ba17) (And I know "poverty"/"paycheck to paycheck" isn't what you had in mind when writing your post, and that you can make a good living doing what you want sometimes, but I think the linked essay is apt.)

Personally, I lucked out. I've always been passionate about web design and programming and it's a hot field right now.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 01:53:11 PM
I said nothing about poverty, either.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 01:56:43 PM
I said nothing about poverty, either.

Assume it's a stand in for taking any kind of significant pay decrease to follow your passions.

Money isn't everything, but neither is a job you enjoy necessarily.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 01:57:40 PM
Quite correct.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: bork on September 27, 2013, 02:07:17 PM
There are also things you can do to save money and live better on lower income (although that's still not poverty levels).  Cut out some unnecessary clutter and downsize, for example.  I actually like the concept of living small and am fascinated by the whole tiny house movement. 
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on September 27, 2013, 02:10:41 PM
Same, Bork. Even as a child, I never got the point of owning a home. Sure maybe if you have a large family, but my family was three members. We have a big dining room we use maybe once or twice  a year, if that. What is the point of it? It feels excessive and wasteful.

Also, I did add a caveat that my views on it are probably idealistic and not in the least pragmatic to many people, Andrex.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2013, 02:21:20 PM
There are also things you can do to save money and live better on lower income (although that's still not poverty levels).  Cut out some unnecessary clutter and downsize, for example.  I actually like the concept of living small and am fascinated by the whole tiny house movement.

Minimalism. :aah

Going all digital. :aah
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Rufus on September 27, 2013, 03:43:30 PM
It's very idealistic, and not the least realistic or pragmatic, but it's what I've always thought.
I'm with you to some extent. I'd rather do something I like for sure, even for a small but sufficient paycheck.
I have found that my brain is going to be OK with anything so long as I can keep this existence going and nobody actively tries to make my life difficult. Food, shelter, and a modicum of entertainment taken care of? I'll be content, sometimes happy, sometimes sad. Even now, in a place I consider pretty close to rock bottom I feel surprisingly OK about myself. I imagine it's the same for most people or we'd see a lot more suicides and riots around the world.
However, just scraping by is not going to be enough forever and that's the only thing that makes me nervous, really.

There are also things you can do to save money and live better on lower income (although that's still not poverty levels).  Cut out some unnecessary clutter and downsize, for example.  I actually like the concept of living small and am fascinated by the whole tiny house movement.
Yes!
Tiny houses are really cool. Maybe it's the blanket and pillow-fort building child in me, but the concept really appeals to me.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: bork on September 27, 2013, 03:44:33 PM
Same, Bork. Even as a child, I never got the point of owning a home. Sure maybe if you have a large family, but my family was three members.

I think Americans tend to still think too big.  There's no point in huge houses or huge SUVs for a lot of people.  I have a small car and a small apartment and everything is great.  Whenever we have a kid, we'll need something bigger, but it still doesn't need to be anything that large.  I'd also much rather have a small, slick/modern apartment/condo or townhouse over some big-ass contemporary house.

The local IKEA has a 437 sq ft. apartment setup.  It's so compact, but set up so damn well.  I would love to live in a place with that layout and surprisingly my wife agrees.  Small spaces can work great if designed well.  That said, it would probably cost a lot to remodel a small place to look like what they did with it...might as spend the money on something larger.   :lol

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We have a big dining room we use maybe once or twice  a year, if that. What is the point of it? It feels excessive and wasteful.

That is exactly what led to me downsizing apartments- our previous place was a two (really 1.5- the other room was really small) bedroom and we literally used the dining room area twice when we lived there for two years.  I kept thinking what a waste this was when we could just ditch the table and I could put the stuff in the small room (my computer and nerd-related crap) in the same area.  So we downsized to a one-bedroom apartment.  It's really only about 300 sq ft. smaller and the rooms are actually larger anyway.  The dining area in this place now has a computer desk (formerly L-shaped, now in two side by side small desks) and three bookshelves instead of a table and chairs.  We usually just eat sitting on the couch anyway, using a small table meant for a laptop.   :lol

I've seen some nice furniture that I'd like to get to make things a bit slicker and even saw a cheap corner desk at IKEA that would really open up the space for more stuff, but it isn't worth it since we aren't gonna be in this place forever.  The only thing I really hate about the place is the carpet- it's old and looks dirty.  Would love to have a place with wooden or faux-wooden flooring instead.
Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: DCharlieJP on September 27, 2013, 10:05:29 PM
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Yeah, one thing living in Japan will give you is an appreciation for smaller living spaces, heh.

current house situation ignored, the absolute happiest times i've ever had in both Japan and the UK were in small living spaces.

as a kid i was raised in a small house with 4 of us and, yeah, that was awesome as everyone was together
and whilst the house i was living in as a non-married person was pretty large by Japanese standards (130m2 or so) - my girlfriend was living in a tiny 1LDK and , yeah, i'd spend all my time there and i loved it. Hell, she went on a biz trip to Shanghai and i left the big house to my flat mate whilst i went and stayed in her small place (let the records show that i went there and played Metroid Fusion GBA in bed as entertainment).

Actually - our current house is built in such a way that although the total sqm is large, the floor set up means that in the main we are all concentrated on one reasonable sized floor most of the time.

Title: Re: An attempt to change ones language and image
Post by: Himu on October 05, 2013, 01:45:56 AM
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