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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Damian79 on December 04, 2013, 05:20:42 PM

Title: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Damian79 on December 04, 2013, 05:20:42 PM
Does this depress you or does it give you joy in the fact that no more games will ever get a 11/10 again?  And how does this fact effect how we see reviews today?

I for one am overjoyed at the same time dissapointed that no new Zelda game will be rated as highly from reviewers for the sake of people like Eiji Aonuma(sp?) who are trying to make a better game than the creator of said game.  Could this be one of the reasons why new devs dont even try any more like with Crash Bandicoot?
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 04, 2013, 05:24:27 PM
Super Mario Galaxy got better reviews on average than Ocarina of Time.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Steve Youngblood on December 04, 2013, 05:28:32 PM
Super Mario Galaxy got better reviews on average than Ocarina of Time.

But did it get a better review from Doug Erickson?
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Tasty on December 04, 2013, 05:29:41 PM
Super Mario Galaxy got better reviews on average than Ocarina of Time.

And it was the better game so it all works out.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 04, 2013, 05:30:45 PM
Who the fuck cares
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Steve Contra on December 04, 2013, 05:31:55 PM
Thought provoking
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 04, 2013, 05:36:50 PM
Never played. Looked boring.
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Post by: The Sceneman on December 04, 2013, 05:40:28 PM
most overrated game and series of all time. Has not aged well. Was succeeded by the superior games Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.

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Post by: Joe Molotov on December 04, 2013, 05:47:56 PM
Thought provoking

Heartfelming
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on December 04, 2013, 05:51:52 PM
most overrated game and series of all time. Has not aged well. Was succeeded by the superior games Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.

I agree, but it's important to point out the superior games Wind Waker and Twilight Princess are a 7.5 and 7.0, respectively. So I guess that makes Ocarina of Time a 6.5 or so
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Post by: Sho Nuff on December 04, 2013, 05:53:06 PM
Oh look a gaf thread
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 04, 2013, 05:56:41 PM
Damian: worst poster, or worstest poster?  We report, you decide.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Damian79 on December 04, 2013, 06:03:50 PM
Super Mario Galaxy got better reviews on average than Ocarina of Time.

Actually that isnt true, Zelda OOT 64 scores 99 and both galaxy games score 97 on metatcritic.

It probably would be more correct to say that Galaxy games have more positive reviews than OOT though.
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Post by: Damian79 on December 04, 2013, 06:11:21 PM
Damian: worst poster, or worstest poster?  We report, you decide.

As usual Creepy Old guy does no research of his own.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 04, 2013, 06:12:19 PM
It doesn't surprise me that a Nintard thinks fondly of the days when Nintendo games were given the utmost attention and respect from gaming journalists and the gaming masses in general.  In 1998, OOT was a pretty big deal.  In 2011, nobody gave a shit about Skyward Sword.  Mario 3D World got some attention but pales in comparison to 15 years ago.  I wonder if that, combined with the Wii U's utter irrelevance, is what triggered a look down memory lane.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Damian79 on December 04, 2013, 06:13:37 PM
most overrated game and series of all time. Has not aged well. Was succeeded by the superior games Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.

I agree, but it's important to point out the superior games Wind Waker and Twilight Princess are a 7.5 and 7.0, respectively. So I guess that makes Ocarina of Time a 6.5 or so

I can agree with that.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Damian79 on December 04, 2013, 06:15:42 PM
It doesn't surprise me that a Nintard thinks fondly of the days when Nintendo games were given the utmost attention and respect from gaming journalists and the gaming masses in general.  In 1998, OOT was a pretty big deal.  In 2011, nobody gave a shit about Skyward Sword.  Mario 3D World got some attention but pales in comparison to 15 years ago.  I wonder if that, combined with the Wii U's utter irrelevance, is what triggered a look down memory lane.

Nah my house is getting painted and i am bored.  So i made a decent topic.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Damian79 on December 04, 2013, 06:24:11 PM
Fine lock thread and be done with it.  I have my PC back so i dont really care.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 04, 2013, 06:34:48 PM
Super Mario Galaxy got better reviews on average than Ocarina of Time.

Actually that isnt true, Zelda OOT 64 scores 99 and both galaxy games score 97 on metatcritic.

Metacritic? LMAO. Use Gamerankings, son.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Damian79 on December 04, 2013, 06:44:19 PM
Interesting.  I thought they had the same reviews except metacritic has user reviews.  That say more about Galaxy than Zelda: OoT though.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 04, 2013, 07:00:12 PM
Majora's mask was better
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 04, 2013, 07:23:44 PM
most overrated game and series of all time. Has not aged well. Was succeeded by the superior games Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.

Unfortunately for the nay-sayers, Zelda turned out great. Really great. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is certainly not the videogame equivalent of a Hanson album or a James Cameron epic; Zelda: OoT is videogaming at its most excellent, where it stands out as a work of quality art rather than a successful demographic venture.
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Post by: Trent Dole on December 04, 2013, 07:30:05 PM
Yeah such high ratings overallaround won't ever happen again cause vidya 'journalism' is plagued by contrarian feggits like Tim Rogers now. And as noted by several others in this thread OoT isn't even the best game in the series anyway.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on December 04, 2013, 07:31:01 PM
Fine lock thread and be done with it.  I have my PC back so i dont really care.

Nah, it's okay. It's customary to exaggerate past greatness at funerals.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 04, 2013, 07:37:24 PM
most overrated game and series of all time. Has not aged well. Was succeeded by the superior games Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.

Unfortunately for the nay-sayers, Zelda turned out great. Really great. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is certainly not the videogame equivalent of a Hanson album or a James Cameron epic; Zelda: OoT is videogaming at its most excellent, where it stands out as a work of quality art rather than a successful demographic venture.

...that's a direct Van Cruncheon quote, isn't it?
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Positive Touch on December 04, 2013, 07:38:03 PM
Fine lock thread and be done with it. 

not until you apologize
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 04, 2013, 07:43:17 PM
Forget the hype and over-the-top phraseology of the erstwhile bleeding-edge pundits; Zelda: OoT needs to be experienced in order to truly appreciate how intelligent and comprehensive a work of game design it is.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Raban on December 04, 2013, 09:30:01 PM
GTA IV was up there, and GTA IV sucked. So who cares?
GTA IV continues to be the highest-rated game this gen. GTA V almost beat it, but it's firmly at no. 2 now :smug the better game won
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Post by: Tasty on December 04, 2013, 10:11:31 PM
This coming from someone that has defended Other M...
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Post by: Human Snorenado on December 04, 2013, 10:30:17 PM
I hate to side with Fandrex on just about anything (other than the fact that pure android products are generally the tits) but er, yeah.  Raban and Sceneman have some of the wonkiest fucking taste on the forum.  They're generally nice people, though.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 04, 2013, 10:48:46 PM
I hate to side with Fandrex on just about anything (other than the fact that pure android products are generally the tits) but er, yeah.  Raban and Sceneman have some of the wonkiest fucking taste on the forum.  They're generally nice people, though.

A friend of mine in college had a favorite addendum he liked to include after viciously insulting someone: "but he means well!"
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Raban on December 04, 2013, 11:23:44 PM
I hate to side with Fandrex on just about anything (other than the fact that pure android products are generally the tits) but er, yeah.  Raban and Sceneman have some of the wonkiest fucking taste on the forum.  They're generally nice people, though.
I'm happy to be compared to Sceneman, at least he plays games instead of just bitching about them :P
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: benjipwns on December 05, 2013, 12:00:40 AM
Every two-bit commentator in the videogame journalism business had an opinion on the game, and, for several months prior to its release, it became decidedly vogue to bash a game most folks had yet to play.

Why was that? Because most of us gamers knew in our heart of hearts that this game was going to be something special. Shigeru Miyamoto, the game's often-lauded mastermind, frequently referred to the then-underway Zelda project as potentially his greatest videogame accomplishment yet.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Tasty on December 05, 2013, 01:41:20 AM
I hate to side with Fandrex on just about anything (other than the fact that pure android products are generally the tits) but er, yeah.  Raban and Sceneman have some of the wonkiest fucking taste on the forum.  They're generally nice people, though.

No question, who doesn't love Raban and Sceneman? :rejoice Just felt it needed to be said.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on December 05, 2013, 03:41:23 AM
and its also just not possible to make a game anymore that has gigantic leaps in playability against everything else on the market at that time.

I mean, criminy, pre-98 3D gaming was pretty fecking shitty, weren't it?
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Post by: Positive Touch on December 05, 2013, 05:01:14 AM
3d gaming before lock-on  :holeup
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: radioheadrule83 on December 05, 2013, 06:00:41 AM
Link to the Past is arguably as good, if not better and more important than it
Majora's Mask had better sidequests
Wind Waker *could* have been better than it
A Link Between Worlds is the best overworld since LTTP

it's sad that they basically had to tweak the LTTP overworld to achieve that... Skyward Sword could have had a good overworld if the system was more capable -- less seams between the big three areas, one big world etc.

Z-targeting was massive... but the importance of OOT is routinely overstated. Whenever someone says its their favourite, I picture them as 15-20 years old and they know nothing Jon Snow
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 05, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
It doesn't surprise me that a Nintard thinks fondly of the days when Nintendo games were given the utmost attention and respect from gaming journalists and the gaming masses in general.  In 1998, OOT was a pretty big deal.  In 2011, nobody gave a shit about Skyward Sword.  Mario 3D World got some attention but pales in comparison to 15 years ago.  I wonder if that, combined with the Wii U's utter irrelevance, is what triggered a look down memory lane.

The latest Mario Kart sold far more than any Zelda game ever did.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: Diunx on December 05, 2013, 12:40:13 PM
Super Mario Galaxy got better reviews on average than Ocarina of Time.

It's a much better game too.
Title: Re: There will never be another game to rate as high as Zelda:TOoT 64
Post by: cool breeze on December 05, 2013, 01:39:13 PM
and its also just not possible to make a game anymore that has gigantic leaps in playability against everything else on the market at that time.

I mean, criminy, pre-98 3D gaming was pretty fecking shitty, weren't it?

I believe it's possible but i don't know if anyone will try.  Seems like every game these days stick to what people know.  If you're playing a game with shooting, it's that left trigger, right trigger, etc. thing.

Like, I think Assassin's Creed had that leap.  I remember people complaining that there wasn't going to be jump button because they didn't understand how it would play.  Batman Arkham Asylum sort of had that leap with its combat system.