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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Himu on December 08, 2013, 01:03:00 AM

Title: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2013, 01:03:00 AM: http://www.tubefilter.com/2013/12/06/youtube-affiliate-channels-monetization-copyright-review/

Anyone make a living off this shit? What's this going to do to the more popular stuff like Total Biscuit and Gamer Grumps?

I personally find this shit so useful so I hope there isn't a massive decrease in them. They're perfect for games upure on the fence on.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: pilonv1 on December 08, 2013, 01:19:32 AM: Not hard to see this one coming.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2013, 01:20:45 AM: Perfect opportunity for twitch.
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Post by: etiolate on December 08, 2013, 01:27:33 AM: I don't understand how companies can lay claim to profits from someone playing their game.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2013, 01:35:04 AM: Quote from: etiolate on December 08, 2013, 01:27:33 AM
I don't understand how companies can lay claim to profits from someone playing their game.

Pewpewdie has 7 million + views for TLOU walk through. For a story game like that I can see it.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2013, 01:39:39 AM: The problem with this is that it can impact more than just gaming. Let's take the Young Turks, a political channel that shows footage from TV channels and makes money off of it. Would Fox News be in the right to request taking down ad support for TYT vids? The manner this could be abused is wide and could really ruin YouTube even further.

Thanks Google!
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Tasty on December 08, 2013, 01:46:18 AM: Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 08, 2013, 01:39:39 AM
Thanks Google!

:neogaf
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2013, 01:47:15 AM: You would defend this.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 08, 2013, 01:50:22 AM: seems like these videos ultimately make games more money than they lose. Ultimately it's free publicity, why get rid of it?
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Tasty on December 08, 2013, 01:50:36 AM: Yeah blame Google for this. :heh
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2013, 01:54:29 AM: Google owns YouTube and should be trying to protect its users. Instead it seems to be actively waging war against them. Publishers and developers are in on it too, but the policies are all Google. Which is another fuck up from the ever hit and miss company.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2013, 01:58:02 AM: Jesus Mandoric. Going in.

:holeup

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=92877253
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2013, 02:15:03 AM: Who the fuck IS pewdiepie exactly? I just found out about him from the gaf thread and searched him on YT.

And it isn't that they have to pay, I just have a problem with the draconian stuff. Because it fucks the under dog more than the Angry Joe's and Poopoodie's out there.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: benjipwns on December 08, 2013, 02:30:48 AM: Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 08, 2013, 01:39:39 AM
The problem with this is that it can impact more than just gaming. Let's take the Young Turks, a political channel that shows footage from TV channels and makes money off of it. Would Fox News be in the right to request taking down ad support for TYT vids? The manner this could be abused is wide and could really ruin YouTube even further.

Thanks Google!
There's been problems the other way too, where the big media companies are trying to figure out how they can show things off YouTube. Fox News originally was just listing the username, but then they went to having to acquire permission to show clips because corporate wasn't sure what exactly is and isn't legal and fair use. (I don't know about other companies, I know the Fox stuff (and a local station that got into some unrelated to copyright trouble for showing stuff off YouTube) just because Red Eye explained why they weren't showing as many weird and extended YouTube clips anymore, especially anything that was like a clip from an obscure foreign show or ad or whatever.)

It's one of those situations where people just did whatever, and now others are coming along and having to figure out how exactly this is all supposed to work legally and some powers that be aren't content with allowing the "rules" that have been established just go on. The now added monetization factor is probably why it's seemed to be going quicker than it had been.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Takao on December 08, 2013, 02:48:42 AM: I was under the impression that to monetize gameplay footage you had to be a part of a Youtube network that would license the distribution rights from the publishers. I guess that's not the case.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: benjipwns on December 08, 2013, 02:59:48 AM: From what I can tell a lot of the monetization stuff has been more in theory than in practice and some of this is rules finally being applied and confirmed. I can remember when the same kind of thing happened to Google Ads nearly ten years ago.

But I only have second hand knowledge from a few people who have been getting into it.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 08, 2013, 06:51:11 AM: As long as boogie can keep making Francis videos, I should be ok.

(There are a couple of arpg youtube channels I subscribe to that might be affected by this, but those guys mostly all stream too so it won't be that big of a deal. I like youtube videos because it often gives me concise info on a specific topic compared to the general "fuckaround" nature of a stream.)
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Rufus on December 08, 2013, 07:51:02 AM: Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on December 08, 2013, 06:51:11 AM
I like youtube videos because it often gives me concise info on a specific topic compared to the general "fuckaround" nature of a stream.)
Not to mention the streamer's schedule and the fact that there's nothing going on for long stretches sometimes.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 08, 2013, 07:54:44 AM: Schedules is why I'm not big on streams. You can watch yt vids any time.

I also hope this makes more game makers create theatrical modes for their games. If people are watching nothing but cut scenes on yt.Maybe people who bought the game also want to reexperoemce the story without investing time in it. Add a mode that bundles all cut scenes and helps contain the games story. I will often watch a few.ff12 cut scene vids because I enjoy the writing and direction. I bought the game when it came out.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 08, 2013, 08:59:23 AM: If this affects Two Best Friends then I will RAGE SO MUCH.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: tiesto on December 08, 2013, 10:13:42 AM: I hope this doesn't affect GameSack or Chrontendo. They're more-so game review sites but occasionally they show huge pieces of the games they are playing.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: demi on December 08, 2013, 10:21:16 AM: This only affects monitization - so losers will have to get jobs. Enjoy the real world, losers.

Meanwhile, I still get my achievement guides and such, and whiny nasal voiced nerds get out of my YouTube.

Probably the BEST scenario to come out.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on December 08, 2013, 10:27:23 AM: Not really surprising, if you show all the content you got to pay for it duh. Was only a matter of time really.

Editorial stuff should be safe.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 08, 2013, 01:10:13 PM: The fact that PewDiePie is a multi-millionaire as a result of squealing over video game footage is infinitely depressing.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 08, 2013, 01:13:49 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc1XYAJCZ80

:goty
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 08, 2013, 01:38:07 PM: :snoop
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Your Stalker on December 08, 2013, 01:55:06 PM: how does he have so many subscribers
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Tasty on December 08, 2013, 02:05:53 PM: Wait PewDiePie isn't some brony shit? That's what it always sounded like to me.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 08, 2013, 02:06:29 PM: What is this shit
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: brob on December 08, 2013, 02:18:25 PM: pewdiepie is Reddit personified
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 08, 2013, 03:26:13 PM: I wasn't kidding guys. His annual income is like 5 million a year.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 08, 2013, 03:37:11 PM: I ain't gonna hate on the dude. He found the niche and filled it. (http://i.imgur.com/b7tSyMN.png)
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: etiolate on December 08, 2013, 04:26:24 PM: wtf 6.7m for acting like an idiot while you play shit

me generation 2.0 has no standards
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 08, 2013, 04:32:18 PM: Quote from: etiolate on December 08, 2013, 04:26:24 PM
wtf 6.7m for acting like an idiot while you play shit

me generation 2.0 has no standards

I know. Some people even play GW2. :jawalrus
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Your Stalker on December 08, 2013, 04:36:34 PM: smoove and ssoh must be eating pretty good then :leon
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 08, 2013, 06:33:04 PM: Criken is infinitely better than any of these shmucks and as far as I know he hasn't made a cent from his videos. He's made a little from appearances I think though.

As long as Criken, Game Grumps, and Dodger ( :-[ ) aren't massively affected by this I'm okay with it
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: etiolate on December 09, 2013, 03:22:52 PM: Dodger? for shame BN
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 10, 2013, 08:43:48 PM: Quote from: Tasty Meat on December 08, 2013, 01:50:36 AM
Yeah blame Google for this. :heh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6-TOZat-wo
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 10, 2013, 08:46:04 PM: :whew

My videos aren't flagged.

Jet Set erry day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbLIALSWv_8

Then again, I don't get ad money, but I was worried they come after my stuff anyways.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 10, 2013, 10:44:12 PM: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/8565-Copyright-War
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: nachobro on December 10, 2013, 10:53:06 PM: Sucks. I have a bunch of LP type stuff monetized and a few bits got caught on 3rd party music, one of which was just a bunch of police sirens that I guess sounded like a song? I dunno. One of the other people uploading to the channel got Hearthstone vids tagged by Blizzard though.

Only about 10-15ish vids out of over 300 so not too bad.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 10, 2013, 11:02:32 PM: Not surprising that Nintendo is one of the companies on the cutting edge of being crusty old farts that can't deal with "new" (circa 2006) technology.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 10, 2013, 11:16:57 PM: In all fairness to Nintendo, Youtubers are probably making more money off Nintendo games these days than Nintendo is.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Rufus on December 11, 2013, 04:53:53 AM: Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 10, 2013, 10:44:12 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/8565-Copyright-War
He goes off the deep end towards the end there... They don't need publishers? Some people who have stuff out now need the content they control. There's no denying that away.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: radioheadrule83 on December 11, 2013, 11:55:55 AM: There needs to be a new mechanism so that both content owners and enthusiasts can monetise these videos. The people making them DO need an incentive to continue to do so... you would think that with the benefit potential of having their content out there, publishers would be okay with it, but I suppose not all such videos are complimentary. And I guess when the finance guys see literally millions of views going on each episode of something that relies on their content, they either want to monetise it or find a way to squeeze their own marketing in there.

There was nothing really wrong with the status quo IMO, but Youtube are forever signing up companies to ContentID matching in the hope they can incentivise paid membership and advertising, and acquire more legit media content as a result. In a post Hulu/Netflix world, Google could have a lot riding on the video services' legitimacy. Lets plays are an unusual category of production, the only real equivalent I can think of is movie-commentary stuff like RedLetterMedia videos - which are insanely popular. If this is happening to game content, why isn't it happening to movie content in the same way?

In any case, the matching mechanism is disturbingly good at picking out copyright content without any human intervention. I don't see why a user can't self-flag their video as containing IP, but carrying additional commentary or editorial. Allow users to throw their own ads in, and allow the content providers to throw one in too. The net result would be a choice of either - allowing just the publisher's ads to run before the video, or two/more ads in the same video. For the series that are quality, that people actually like, people would put up with it. They'd do the 5 second skip or whatever as necessary.

If I were involved in a channel like this (I'm not, but I know people who are) - I'd be trying to come up with a way around it. Perhaps breaking my out-of-game commentary into separate videos with my own ads, and maybe trying to encourage people to view via set playlists. I'd be looking at other video services too.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: hampster on December 11, 2013, 01:34:32 PM: This seems like something most publishers will walk back from eventually (similar to online passes, does anyone use those anymore). The smart thing to do would to beat these guys at their own game. If piediedie hits 7 million views on a lets play, upload your own lets play with developer commentary, interviews and editing out major spoilers. Sony puts up a blog post each week with the PSN releases, why isn't someone on Twitch every Tuesday night showing everything off?

Just seems like it would be smarter to cut out the middle man (both press and regular youtubers/streams) by doing a better job then hiding behind youtube's TOS.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 11, 2013, 01:36:07 PM: Radiohead.

STOP CARING ENOUGH TO WRITE LONG FUCKING POSTS ABOUT THIS SHIT.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 11, 2013, 02:56:38 PM: Quote from: etiolate on December 09, 2013, 03:22:52 PM
Dodger? for shame BN

she's cute :-[
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on December 11, 2013, 04:41:05 PM: Hey remember when MST3K made millions of dollars recording themselves making fun of Hollywood's latest, greatest movies for free because you can do what you want and there are no rules
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 11, 2013, 04:43:07 PM: Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on December 11, 2013, 04:41:05 PM
Hey remember when MST3K made millions of dollars recording themselves making fun of Hollywood's latest, greatest movies for free because you can do what you want and there are no rules

That's actually how they started out, though. :teehee
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 11, 2013, 04:45:49 PM: Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on December 11, 2013, 04:41:05 PM
Hey remember when MST3K made millions of dollars recording themselves making fun of Hollywood's latest, greatest movies for free because you can do what you want and there are no rules

People aren't down on this because publishers want a piece of the pie. They're down on it because they want the entire pie.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: benjipwns on December 12, 2013, 01:29:35 AM: Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on December 11, 2013, 04:41:05 PM
Hey remember when MST3K made millions of dollars recording themselves making fun of Hollywood's latest, greatest movies for free because you can do what you want and there are no rules
You're saying someone should start producing downloadable commentary tracks for me to play alongside my games?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Someone should add commentary/trivia pop-ups to their game like the Okuda ones on the Star Trek DVDs.
[close]
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: radioheadrule83 on December 12, 2013, 05:50:53 AM: Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on December 11, 2013, 01:36:07 PM
Radiohead.

STOP CARING ENOUGH TO WRITE LONG FUCKING POSTS ABOUT THIS SHIT.

Being bored and avoiding work at work != caring

...okay I care a little. <3
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: hampster on December 12, 2013, 08:08:53 PM: >:( Shit just got personal >:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8kIrsw8-io
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 08:14:26 PM: Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 08, 2013, 01:58:02 AM
Jesus Mandoric. Going in.

:holeup

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=92877253

I disagree about AAA, this won't shut them down. I'm sure they'll simply respond by releasing their own videos of people playing AAA titles.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 12, 2013, 08:15:22 PM: Fuckin shit. I usually watch Mark talk about some old ass Vectrex game or terrible Tiger LCD thing when I make my morning coffee.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Rufus on December 12, 2013, 08:17:48 PM: It's not like he's dead... You just have to go to Dailymotion now.
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Post by: brob on December 12, 2013, 08:20:05 PM: So inconvenient :stahp
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Post by: Sho Nuff on December 12, 2013, 08:21:29 PM: I will sacrifice for Mark and his Man Voice
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Rufus on December 13, 2013, 08:54:41 AM: Some more info and context from a movie reviewer who's been dealing with Content ID for a while:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuTHhtCyzLg

Disputing claims is a comical process.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: pancakesandsex on December 13, 2013, 10:44:52 AM: I don't really have a stake in this at all, but I REALLY don't like the treatment of footage of a game being played as something owned by anyone but the person playing it.

I feel absurdity of this situation is analogous to BMX claiming ownership of any footage involving someone riding one of their bikes (or for the more bogus claims, the company that produces the tires for bmx bikes issuing the claim). Or wizards of the coast issuing takedowns on videos of someone's D&D campaign.

Hopefully all of this mess comes back to bite every single one of these companies in the ass, and hard.

Edit:
Just saw mandoric's post after I posted this. His thoughts mirror my own.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 13, 2013, 07:16:55 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on December 12, 2013, 08:14:26 PM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on December 08, 2013, 01:58:02 AM
Jesus Mandoric. Going in.

:holeup

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=92877253

I disagree about AAA, this won't shut them down. I'm sure they'll simply respond by releasing their own videos of people playing AAA titles.

He didn't say it'll shut them down. He said it'd hasten that.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Himu on December 15, 2013, 12:43:49 PM: Lmao

http://venturebeat.com/2013/12/13/youtubes-out-of-control-content-id-system-even-flagged-jonathan-blow-for-posting-footage-of-his-own-game/
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: benjipwns on December 19, 2013, 01:32:34 AM: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/the-youtube-snake-is-eating-itself/1100-4815/

From the story:
Quote
Magnus Pålsson @MPSouleye
I'm getting copyright infringement notifications on my own music on youtube.

The company that does the "publishing" of his music responds:
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TuneCore ✔ @TuneCore
@_Branislav_ @MPSouleye Claims are placed on the music for you, Magnus. All our publishing admin customers collect revenue from YouTube...

Quote
Magnus Pålsson
@TuneCore @_Branislav_ Done. How can I stop my employers from getting flagged? And what about letsplays of games etc? I'm a game musician!
@TuneCore @_Branislav_ Ok. Now, how to help lets-players and reviewers of the games I made music for? They're many and I don't know them.

So they respond:
Quote
TuneCore
@MPSouleye @_Branislav_ ...don't know them, how could you give them permission to use your music? It's claimed for you, since you wrote it.
:lol

And he can't have them not do the IDs of his work without opting out of the entire publishing service.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Human Snorenado on December 19, 2013, 01:47:48 AM: There's only one possible solution to all of this... PirateBay needs to open a streaming service.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Yeti on December 19, 2013, 04:14:13 AM: Call it the PirateStream
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Shuri on December 19, 2013, 09:15:07 AM: I was thinking about this a lot, and in a way, I can kind of understand the angle of the games companies from the point of view that people doing let's play type vids are 'giving away' or 'letting people experience' the content they spent lots of money to produce, program, etc for 'free'. I mean this isnt like back in the days during the christmas break when we would invite a couple of friends and marathon thru Dragon Warrior on the nes; far more people are getting free rides here..

This is just an exemple, I remember a rant on twitter or maybe in an interview from Ed Boon where he was talking about how sad he was that all the fatalities and secrets of his latest MK game were available on youtube the day before the official street date.

It kinda sucks!
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 19, 2013, 09:34:59 AM: I think the problem Shuri is that the developers and publishers for the most part do not have problems with Let's Plays and whatnot. You can just look at how many are coming out to say they're fine with it and are helping the Youtube people get their claims disputed.

The majority of the time these claims are coming from third parties to the third parties for things like, a piece of audio from a section of a game or a song that was licensed out after the game came out. Stuff like that is why people are pissed at Youtube right now.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Rufus on December 19, 2013, 10:00:52 AM: Oh yeah, I saw all those corny animations, no need to buy that game any more. What? :heh

I don't think what Boon said there has anything to do with this. He obviously laments the leak and probably just misses the arcade culture where someone pulling off a fatality or showing you something you had never seen before was an event. That's fair, but - the times, they are a-changin'. That sort of stuff can't be a pull any more. Who'd buy a game just to see the new round of gory executions? How many, rather. I doubt it's a significant number.

With Let's Plays it depends on the game. I don't hate "non-games" (quite liked Dear Esther for what it was), but those are the only one that I would say need to be seriously worried about videos. I doubt developers of "gamey-games" are worried about video play-throughs cannibalizing their sales. Publishers maybe, but I'd expect the actual developers to be aware of the irony there.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: brob on December 19, 2013, 10:10:46 AM: Boon is generally very nostalgic for the chinese telephone rumor mill surrounding his games. When they did the second PS2 game they put a bunch of incredibly obtuse shit in the adventure mode and it was all common knowledge a week after release because someone dumped the info and wrote a faq. I think they kinda gave up on that front after that.

The days of Ermac are behind us, brehs.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on December 19, 2013, 12:23:37 PM: Well this is somehow working out for me, because I've had 0 copyright claims and my viewership is up to the point that YouTube's gonna pay my rent this month. :usavich
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Rufus on December 19, 2013, 01:44:27 PM: Uh, that's serious moolah then I'm guessing. :whew
Wanna drop a link to your channel?
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 19, 2013, 03:40:20 PM: If your game can be fully experienced by watching a video of it there is something wrong with your game.
Title: Re: Say goodbye to YouTube Let's Plays and guides everyone
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 19, 2013, 04:02:56 PM: Quote from: Brobzoid on December 19, 2013, 10:10:46 AM
Boon is generally very nostalgic for the chinese telephone rumor mill surrounding his games. When they did the second PS2 game they put a bunch of incredibly obtuse shit in the adventure mode and it was all common knowledge a week after release because someone dumped the info and wrote a faq. I think they kinda gave up on that front after that.

The days of Ermac are behind us, brehs.

Gone are the days where EGM could troll people with elaborate April Fools' jokes about hidden characters. :'(