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Title: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: SantaC on January 17, 2014, 05:40:12 PM
I am 30 hours into Braverly Default and I am having lots of fun with the battle system. It's extremely fast paced with lots of options. There are tons of jobs to learn, and you can even use multiple jobs at once thanks to the abilities option. Not only are the jobs fun, there is also limit breaks available for each character to learn with lots of customization.

The story however is one of the worst cliché drabble I ever seen. Go awaken the different crystals blah blah. Main character is dull etc etc.  :snoop

However that does not take away the overall enjoyment of this game. If you have a 3DS it is a must buy if you enjoy a classic turn-based jrpg.



Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with an incredibly dull story
Post by: demi on January 17, 2014, 05:42:21 PM
If it helps you any, I don't listen to your opinions and planned on buying the game anyway.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with an incredibly dull story
Post by: SantaC on January 17, 2014, 05:45:04 PM
If it helps you any, I don't listen to your opinions and planned on buying the game anyway.

you disappointed? I said the game is good fun and worth getting. It's not like most jrpgs have  good stories anyway.

Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: archnemesis on January 17, 2014, 05:51:11 PM
I prefer Bravely Default's simple and straightforward approach over many other overly convoluted stories. The game is 20 hours too long though.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: Bebpo on January 17, 2014, 05:51:46 PM
Really?  I thought it was supposed to have some super fucked up crazy mindfuck story by the guy who did steins;gate?
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: magus on January 17, 2014, 05:55:01 PM
Really?  I thought it was supposed to have some super fucked up crazy mindfuck story by the guy who did steins;gate?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
i don't know precisely because i haven't spoiled it myself but from reading impressions here and there i think there is some sort of standard jrpg trope breaking that involve's time travel,that also seems to involve content getting repeated of course :lol
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Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: archnemesis on January 17, 2014, 05:56:51 PM
Well, there is a plot twist towards the end. The beginning of the game is blah blah blah protect crystals blah blah blah defeat evil.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: SantaC on January 17, 2014, 05:57:55 PM
Really?  I thought it was supposed to have some super fucked up crazy mindfuck story by the guy who did steins;gate?

I am not done with the game, but so far it is zzZz and I am over half-way. Maybe there will be some shocking twist I haven't experienced yet. I don't think that will save it anyway.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The chosen one (the wind vestel) travels to each country to awake the wind, water, fire and Earth temple. There is nothing super fucked about it.
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Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: magus on January 17, 2014, 05:59:22 PM
Well, there is a plot twist towards the end. The beginning of the game is blah blah blah protect crystals blah blah blah defeat evil.

is what i wrote in the spoiler true archy? spoil the plot twist in bigger details
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 17, 2014, 08:23:24 PM
Fuck stories
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 17, 2014, 08:26:26 PM
Gamers still holding out for a good story in games :neogaf
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: SpeedStats on January 17, 2014, 09:09:25 PM
Eh, the story's not bad. Kinda by the numbers for most until the neat twist. The conclusion was executed well.

The thing that really hurts the game is
spoiler (click to show/hide)
everything after chapter 4 where everything repeats itself so you have to refight bosses (main story and sidequest bosses) over and over for several chapters because the game is written as though it's a visual novel and could have easily made its point by doing that for fewer chapters than what it did.
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Otherwise, the game is fun despite the mechanics and some attacks being easily exploitable.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 17, 2014, 09:20:53 PM
Were we supposed to expect a good story? The game kind of always looked like it would have a very simple, straight forward, and maybe boring story. All the hype talk for this game is about the gameplay and the presentation/art style. I've never heard anyone talk about the story, to the point that I don't even know what it's about.

I'm kind of interested, but it's on the 3DS and I don't know if it's enough to push that purchase.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: tiesto on January 18, 2014, 02:15:17 AM
Actually a bit disappointed that the story isn't up to snuff since the Steins;Gate writer did the scenario for it... and Steins;Gate may very well be my favorite animu ever.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: archnemesis on January 18, 2014, 02:54:28 AM
Well, there is a plot twist towards the end. The beginning of the game is blah blah blah protect crystals blah blah blah defeat evil.

is what i wrote in the spoiler true archy? spoil the plot twist in bigger details
Yep, you pretty much nailed it.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: Trent Dole on January 18, 2014, 03:32:58 AM
Man, this sounds kinda garbage. The emperor has no clothes.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: Fifstar on January 18, 2014, 05:53:33 AM
World > Chars > Story in games in general and in jRPG especially.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 18, 2014, 10:01:56 AM
pass
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 20, 2014, 11:14:27 AM
You want a boring story- Suikoden for DS. Jesus Christ what a snore fest of a game.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story
Post by: SantaC on January 24, 2014, 03:26:03 PM
holy crap, the Music really is incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuotvCq9eoM
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: mjemirzian on January 24, 2014, 03:36:58 PM
The gameplay's good, you say?
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: SantaC on January 24, 2014, 04:02:26 PM
The gameplay's good, you say?

yes, the game is fun.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 04, 2014, 11:11:43 AM
Collector's Edition unboxing

http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/01/24/bravely-default-north-america-collectors-edition-unboxing
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: SpeedStats on February 04, 2014, 08:46:46 PM
Man, I don't remember ever using those AR cards. They were useless junk that sat in my game box.

Game's good. Balancing falls apart with the game becoming too easy later on with Abilinks, exploitable job combinations, and Friend Summons. Pacing is terrible towards the end, especially if you're going for the true ending. Job system and ability configuration are fun. Community aspects of the game is very fun and seamlessly woven into the game's narrative and systems. Music is fantastic.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 07, 2014, 06:21:29 PM
YO I GOT MY COLLECTOR EDITION

sexy package, and the nice meaty thighs on the CD art are a plus. would fill with my seed.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Bebpo on February 07, 2014, 06:43:56 PM
Double dipped and got the US version since I never got to playing the import much and this has all the For The Sequel improvements apparently.  Looking forward to playing it.

Man, I don't remember ever using those AR cards. They were useless junk that sat in my game box.

Game's good. Balancing falls apart with the game becoming too easy later on with Abilinks, exploitable job combinations, and Friend Summons. Pacing is terrible towards the end, especially if you're going for the true ending. Job system and ability configuration are fun. Community aspects of the game is very fun and seamlessly woven into the game's narrative and systems. Music is fantastic.

So it's more balanced if you don't have any friends for the social stuff?  Because I never bothered with friendlist stuff for 3ds, so I have no friends to summon.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 07, 2014, 07:54:04 PM
UPS man just showed up with my CE. 8)
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Beezy on February 07, 2014, 07:54:25 PM
Forgot this was coming out. I'll get it whenever I finally finish FE Awakening.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 07, 2014, 08:01:22 PM
Anyone can add me if they want, I will rape the shit out of this game and you can hire my pimp ass God character.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 07, 2014, 08:07:13 PM
oh god the battle music. i would love to eat out a butthole while it plays.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: G The Resurrected on February 07, 2014, 11:07:48 PM
oh god the battle music. i would love to eat out a butthole while it plays.

Mine's up for it  :-*

I'm trying to streetpass a few more folks before cracking open the game to play it. I can't remember how many folks you need to unlock stuff.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: tiesto on February 08, 2014, 03:13:13 AM
Picked up my CE copy but the box was all banged up... and it was the last one in stock. I am gonna look around at other stores in the area and then return it. Apparently the CE is already up to nearly $100 on Amazon though.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: SpeedStats on February 08, 2014, 07:18:36 PM
So it's more balanced if you don't have any friends for the social stuff?  Because I never bothered with friendlist stuff for 3ds, so I have no friends to summon.

I feel that way, for the most part, yeah. Some might argue that if you get a friend summon like this and use it, for example:

(http://abload.de/img/a6rq8sk0wjzz.jpg)

...because they know that using Bravely Second amps your attack like crazy and they're in postgame or late-game, then you can finish things off no problem, provided if you use it (and you definitely can decide not to use them). I didn't use friend summons unless they were quick heal/buffs because a lot of people I knew had stronger characters I knew that these would wipe out some of the side or main story bosses easily. You can even eliminate the secret boss with that, no problem.

Additionally, you're going to get access to a lot of their advanced skills in the classes that you have, provided you're using Abilinks and assigning some of those advanced skills to your support abilities. If you assign some of the jobs as primary and secondary and have Abilinks turned on to those who are late/post-game and have basically 100%'d everything, then you also get access to their active/passive abilities per job before you probably 'should'. It makes the game much easier at that point in time, especially if you just got access to said job. I do think having some Abilinks can be neat if you want some actives for a subjob, so it entirely depends on your judgement.

I don't think it ruins the game, per se, but it's something that I started to realize when I played For the Sequel, and scaled back on using because while it's cool to have these community aspects, I wasn't seeing how the base game was balanced provided I was playing myself. I didn't streetpass anyone because I live in NA and no one I knew imported the JP version so I built up my village on my own, too.

Otherwise, there are lots and lots of other ways to break the game, too. Using all Valkyries and giving them a ton of speed abilities + someone with Hasten World so you'll never ever be attacked during a battle while using Jump. Using Swordmaster/Ninja combos, etc.

However, I think the social stuff is beneficial because it does play a minor role in the game's narrative. I thought it was one of the neatest things given the overall narrative premise of the game.

I still think the odd balancing here and there isn't the biggest flaw the game has. It's really the crappy pacing in the second half.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 08, 2014, 07:37:38 PM
Game is so good, I'm jerking it so hard right now! :aah
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 08, 2014, 07:55:50 PM
Fast as fuck, plus a fast forward button
Set your own random battle rate
Turn off the VO

GOTY
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 08, 2014, 10:49:24 PM
The VO is pretty good. IT certainly could have been phoned in, but everyone seems to put some effort in.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: SantaC on February 10, 2014, 08:23:25 AM
Game is so good, I'm jerking it so hard right now! :aah

sadly it drops the ball in the last few chapters.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: SantaC on February 11, 2014, 03:22:55 PM
last boss was kinda crazy. The fight took like an hour or so.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 11, 2014, 03:27:02 PM
Anyone can add me if they want, I will rape the shit out of this game and you can hire my pimp ass God character.

Sure, but I haven't the foggiest on how this aspect (adding people on 3DS) works.  I created a Network ID when I was messing around with the settings.
 
I opened the game Sunday morning, I got 4 random people to rebuild my town 1 day, then 3 more the next day.  Obviously the sooner I get to 20 the better.

Currently grinding to Freelancer 10 for JP up.  Had to put game on Hard otherwise would be trivial.  Really enjoyed first few bosses on hard.

It works like this,

When you select "Update Data" - it grabbs random internet people, of which you can summon in battle. I don't believe you can Abilink them, just actual friends.

If you swap codes with someone online, you have to "Add Friends" from the internet, and it goes out and fetches that person's character they uploaded last.

To upload your character, you select "Summon" -> "Send" and select your most powerful single attack (usually a Special ability that's stacked to fuck with buffs) - so you want to use it on an enemy with a weakness, or de-buffed, etc.

I know Joe has me on his list, so if he selects "Update Data" it should fetch my latest character upload. I did a whammy on Beezlebub, who gives out 20 JP per kill, so I have been picking them off when I get one in my city.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 11, 2014, 09:52:23 PM
For a retro styled game the cutscenes are 100% 2000s Square, lots of flowerly language and repition
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 12, 2014, 12:45:48 PM
Or in a thread with people who similarly may have Bravely Default
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: SantaC on February 12, 2014, 04:53:42 PM
demi, come back to me what you think when you enter chapter 6.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 12, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
I'm not even on Ch 2 yet. I feel like this game is super easy to break and not make very fun. By upgrading my entire town, I have access to all this leet ass gear, coupled with the Merchant job, I can just grind away.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: SantaC on February 12, 2014, 05:18:50 PM
I'm not even on Ch 2 yet. I feel like this game is super easy to break and not make very fun. By upgrading my entire town, I have access to all this leet ass gear, coupled with the Merchant job, I can just grind away.
Town gives good gear, but the best gear in the game is obtained by stealing. And yes the game is quite easy, but no easier than your average jrpg.

Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 12, 2014, 08:21:43 PM
Anyone can add me if they want, I will rape the shit out of this game and you can hire my pimp ass God character.

Sure, but I haven't the foggiest on how this aspect (adding people on 3DS) works.  I created a Network ID when I was messing around with the settings.
 
I opened the game Sunday morning, I got 4 random people to rebuild my town 1 day, then 3 more the next day.  Obviously the sooner I get to 20 the better.

Currently grinding to Freelancer 10 for JP up.  Had to put game on Hard otherwise would be trivial.  Really enjoyed first few bosses on hard.

It works like this,

When you select "Update Data" - it grabbs random internet people, of which you can summon in battle. I don't believe you can Abilink them, just actual friends.

If you swap codes with someone online, you have to "Add Friends" from the internet, and it goes out and fetches that person's character they uploaded last.

To upload your character, you select "Summon" -> "Send" and select your most powerful single attack (usually a Special ability that's stacked to fuck with buffs) - so you want to use it on an enemy with a weakness, or de-buffed, etc.

I know Joe has me on his list, so if he selects "Update Data" it should fetch my latest character upload. I did a whammy on Beezlebub, who gives out 20 JP per kill, so I have been picking them off when I get one in my city.

Alright.  So it looks like I should go to that other thread for linking friend codes, post it, and hope.   :lol

It's not like I know anyone else with a 3DS.

I'll add you JayDub, now add me.
2105-9979-9809
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 12, 2014, 08:39:18 PM
joe why havent you uploaded a new character you chubby cunt
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 12, 2014, 10:28:42 PM
I thought I sent one earlier today. Lemme try again once I get a special worked up.

Edit: Okay, sent a 950ish attack.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 13, 2014, 06:00:39 PM
I'm not making a lot of progress in the actual game, but my construction project is coming along great!
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 13, 2014, 06:13:23 PM
That town breaks this game
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: SantaC on February 13, 2014, 06:17:37 PM
That town breaks this game

meh i didn't focus that much on the Town. It's more fun to master new jobs.

Pirate
Time Mage
Templar
Spirit Master

Became my main classes. Basically you become invincible since Templar can nullify pshyical damage (to entire party) and Spirit Master can nullify magic damage (to entire party). Pirate has highest physical dmg in the game and Time Mage is fucking amazing when you get its last skill.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: a slime appears on February 13, 2014, 07:42:37 PM
Being able to Abilink with my friends who've been playing a hell of a lot more than me and maxing Norende out early on does make it feel like I'm cheating but it's so hard to resist.

It's a really fun game though. Feels like a classic throwback in a lot of ways but the online connectivity along with the encounter slider (and difficulty toggle) also makes it feel like it's forward thinking in some weird way.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: tiesto on February 13, 2014, 09:51:59 PM
So I haven't played the demo... but I think I read somewhere that it's different from the main game? Planning on starting the game proper this weekend... should I play the demo first?
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 13, 2014, 10:18:15 PM
No, jump right in and get your dick wet

Youd love this game, the two chicks are prime BBW material. Nice and thick.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Lucretius on February 19, 2014, 07:26:24 PM
what level were you guys when you beat the game?

I'm playing on Normal and have been grinding while marathoning Community on Hulu. 
I'm already level 58 and not even done with Chapter 3 yet.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: tiesto on February 20, 2014, 12:11:11 AM
Been playing and am only up to chapter 2 so far... thought it was pretty crazy how

spoiler (click to show/hide)
you go to the Red Mage's rape basement
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Game is great and I like how the sidequests are done - they actually have some slight story and give you new jobs... so much better than the average MMO-influenced quest permeating single-player RPGs nowadays like "collect 5 boar hides and I'll give you this weapon that's slightly more powerful than the one you own".
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 20, 2014, 12:17:11 PM
Glad yo enjoyed it - I'm only in the Mythril Cave yet. Got the songstress and butt pirate costumes.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: mjemirzian on February 20, 2014, 02:24:19 PM
I'm not even on Ch 2 yet. I feel like this game is super easy to break and not make very fun. By upgrading my entire town, I have access to all this leet ass gear, coupled with the Merchant job, I can just grind away.
Sooo it's like almost every role playing game in the past decade? :P
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on February 20, 2014, 02:25:17 PM
Actually, since I posted that the game has done a good job jumping up the enemy and boss difficulty.

I feel like I should be overpowered, but enemies do a good job giving me some BBC.

The town actually doesnt give you any good equipment, either. All the strong items are super expensive, negating the effort to grind them out.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 21, 2014, 08:24:27 PM
Actually, since I posted that the game has done a good job jumping up the enemy and boss difficulty.

I feel like I should be overpowered, but enemies do a good job giving me some BBC.

The town actually doesnt give you any good equipment, either. All the strong items are super expensive, negating the effort to grind them out.

There's a scummy way to get money, if you really want to. The Lv. 20 town boss, Mammon, has Elixirs, you can just equip Steal on everyone and steal on turn 1 then run away, then refight him and repeat, then sell all the Elixirs for mad cash.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 22, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
Everyone complains about the backtracking in chapters 5-8, but chapter 3 is atrocious also. This orphaned kid subplot has you running back and forth a dozen+ times.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: archnemesis on February 23, 2014, 04:41:03 AM
The recycling of content gets progressively worse throughout the game. By the time I reached the end credits I had completely lost any interest in unlocking the true ending.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 23, 2014, 08:20:48 AM
Beat the game with the normal ending right at the first opportunity in Chapter 5.

The bitching seems unwarranted - it is pretty easy to view Chapters 5-8 as postgame/NG+ bonus content rather than mandatory. I guess it's better if you know that in advance.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on February 24, 2014, 09:06:02 PM
Well I got this game. Whats with the code stuff?
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Himu on February 24, 2014, 09:09:42 PM
How long is this?
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on February 24, 2014, 10:07:05 PM
I got the normal ending in 32 hours. There is a lot of content (repetitive content) to get to the true ending though.

I'm not ruling out completing it.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: tiesto on February 24, 2014, 10:33:24 PM
I'm on the mine in chapter 3 and absolutely in love with the game... shame to hear about the recycled content that pops up later on.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Lucretius on March 03, 2014, 01:49:30 AM
I think this may be the secret best Final Fantasy game ever.

Just got the true ending.  My game time was 78 hrs 27 mins 07 secs.  A good chunk of that was power leveling while marathoning four seasons of Community on Hulu.  I finished with all my characters at level 99 and all job classes maxed out, including all the optional job classes.  The backtracking after chapter 4 would have been really obnoxious had I not been super over leveled.  Hopefully they don't pull that crap in the sequel.  I can't wait for the sequel!

I like how it integrated StreetPass and Augmented Reality in cool narratives ways…
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Your online and StreetPass friends turn out to be parallel timelines that reveal themselves to be such during the final battle.  And the real world (our world) turns out to be the Celestial world.  That explains the opening AR scene that had Agnès freaking out in my living room.  The Celestial that was inhabiting Tiz was me (or you or whoever is playing the game), that's why at the end of the game, Tiz dies… because I'm not playing the game anymore.  I know Bravely Default isn't the first game to break the fourth wall like this.  Panzer Dragoon Saga and Earthbound both reference the player as some sort of god controlling events.  But it's still a good use of AR in storytelling.
[close]

Love the combat and job system.  LOVE the fact that you can adjust the encounter rate (up for grinding, down when you just want to plow through to the next boss).  I didn't love the voice acting, but it wasn't terrible.  Once you muscled through the repeated bosses of the latter part of the game, the story was great overall.

I have FF: The 4 Heroes of Light.  I may give that a try in a week or so.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on March 03, 2014, 12:31:10 PM
Lucretius darling, I need you to send me the biggest, thickest, attack you can muster and send it my way. And let me abilink your meaty member.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Lucretius on March 03, 2014, 01:49:39 PM
Lucretius darling, I need you to send me the biggest, thickest, attack you can muster and send it my way. And let me abilink your meaty member.

friend code 1590-4690-9174
name Mark

I haven't really used the summon friend or abililink stuff, but I've added you.  Let's see what we can do!
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Eric P on March 16, 2014, 09:33:31 AM
just started playing recently


friend code 4227-1689-1461
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 20, 2014, 03:36:18 AM
Friend Code-4527-9274-0758
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Bebpo on March 24, 2014, 04:54:16 AM
After reading this:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=789722

The second half of this game sounds absolutely fucking terrible.  People say you can turn encounters off and speed run the 2nd half but then I'm reading that they also talk about like 40 hours to get through chapter 5-8.  Is that 40 hours if you have no encounters and are speed running?  Or can you do chapters 5-8 with encounters off in like a dozen hours?  Because if you can blow through the chapters that way in a couple of days (<12 hours), then I'll play this for the goodness of the first half and speedrun the 2nd half for the full ending.  If the 2nd half takes 20-40 hours even with encounters off and speedrunning it....fuck that, I'm never going to play this game.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 24, 2014, 05:40:30 AM
I'm only on chapter 2(I guess, I just did the 2nd crystal) and I'm at 32 hours. Jesus if the game has a 40 hour 2nd half.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on March 24, 2014, 07:53:15 AM
Yeah, unfortunately the second half is pretty bad. The difficulty spikes up dramatically too, since you cant just casually get by. You have to actually work on your jobs, and consider what to use. I actually appreciate that, but when I just want to get through and enjoy the game...
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 24, 2014, 08:03:12 AM
After reading this:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=789722

The second half of this game sounds absolutely fucking terrible.  People say you can turn encounters off and speed run the 2nd half but then I'm reading that they also talk about like 40 hours to get through chapter 5-8.  Is that 40 hours if you have no encounters and are speed running?  Or can you do chapters 5-8 with encounters off in like a dozen hours?  Because if you can blow through the chapters that way in a couple of days (<12 hours), then I'll play this for the goodness of the first half and speedrun the 2nd half for the full ending.  If the 2nd half takes 20-40 hours even with encounters off and speedrunning it....fuck that, I'm never going to play this game.

It took me like 30-35 hours to get to the start of Chapter 5 and just get the bad ending right away.

If you turn off encounters and ignore the repeated sidequests (which give you more flavor text and harder boss fights) I am sure you could do the last 4 chapters in less than 3 hours. It's just four boss fights that you can fly the airship to and run right up to.

Beat the game at the start of Chapter 5 and view the rest as NG+
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on March 24, 2014, 08:07:13 AM
I place it up there with "World of Ruin" from FF6.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2014, 10:13:07 AM
But World of Ruin is fantastic.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on March 24, 2014, 10:16:32 AM
Sweet, you'll be sure to enjoy the same feelings in Bravely Default.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Himu on March 24, 2014, 10:22:52 AM
I enjoy WoR because:

- exploration, wide-open and lets you explore to your hearts content
- multiple dungeons with varying difficulty
- great character moments
- sidequests

BD's problems sound quite different than WoR, but I could be wrong. I'm getting close to chapter 5 so we'll see.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on March 24, 2014, 10:42:36 AM
BD has:

- Exploration, wide-open and lets you explore to your hearts content
- Multiple dungeons and boss fights with varying difficulty
- Great character moments
- Sidequests

But you'll find out
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 24, 2014, 08:47:27 PM
Capital letters are the key differentiator
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on March 24, 2014, 09:05:02 PM
Thats a subtle hint to Chapter 5 ;)
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 25, 2014, 04:17:48 AM
Must be pretty bad if thats whats making people dislike this game.

I'm only in Chapter 2(I guess, just got Red Mage) at 35 hours and I already feel like this game is the same thing over and over. There's already a lot of backtracking between areas(have to go back through poison forest, have to go back to the tailor dude) and to get the side jobs you already go through very samey environments, which already aren't this games strong point. The game's battle system has basically been BRAVE BRAVE BRAVE BRAVE THEN NUKE for regular enemies and then DEFAULT DEFAULT DEFAULT DEFAULT for boss battles. Not very hard or exciting. The water temple boss battle was probably the first challenging battle only because it seemed like it wasn't best to just build up defaults.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: SantaC on March 25, 2014, 04:12:48 PM
it's bad because you're doing the same thing over and over again. No new dungeons or towns. The same overworld with the same bosses for another 10 hours or so.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Vizzys on March 25, 2014, 04:40:06 PM
I made it to chapter 7 last night
the pacing drops like a rock after chapter 4 for sure
but it has some neat moments and lets you see characters in a different light if you want + sprinkles of main story plot
still the world is cool and characters are ace so I look forward to a sequel hopefully with less padding
overall gameplay is king and the system they have for the battles is great and I hope they add like twice the jobs next game
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on March 25, 2014, 05:11:07 PM
I disagree, most of the jobs are shit. They maybe have that one single ability that is good. Not worth the effort involved.

Most badass setups involve:

- Dark Knight
- Salvemaker
- Spiritmaster
- Merchant
- Ninja

Sprinkled with one or two abilities from other jobs.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 25, 2014, 05:29:19 PM
At least the Red Mage outfit looks cool. Everyone looks dumb as hell in thier ranger outfits.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: SantaC on March 25, 2014, 05:32:13 PM
I disagree, most of the jobs are shit. They maybe have that one single ability that is good. Not worth the effort involved.

Most badass setups involve:

- Dark Knight
- Salvemaker
- Spiritmaster
- Merchant
- Ninja

Sprinkled with one or two abilities from other jobs.

I'd say best jobs are:

Pirate
Time Mage
Templar
Spirit Master

with Time Mage as nr1 since you can just spam meteor.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
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Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Tasty on March 31, 2014, 11:40:23 AM
http://kotaku.com/square-enix-has-finally-realized-that-people-like-jrpgs-1555236872

Quote
"Due to having split [the development mindset] according to regions around the world, we weren't able to see this clearly up until now, but fans of JRPGs are really spread around the world," Square Enix head honcho Yosuke Matsuda told Nikkei

:comeon
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Trent Dole on March 31, 2014, 11:51:00 AM
'We're complete fucking idiots!' - Square Enix
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on March 31, 2014, 11:59:51 AM
These later fights are ridiculously difficult. It feels like the only optimal setups are the broken ones.

Optional fights, nonetheless. I might just make a dash for the end.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: demi on April 01, 2014, 07:41:50 PM
Just got the TRUE ending - pretty good game all around.

I used the nasty combo of Rage + Stillness to cheese the bosses.

What is Rage + Stillness?

- Make character with Dark Knight / Merchant with at least Low Leverage and Rage unlocked.
- Make character with Spiritmaster with at least Stillness unlocked.
- Make sure to slap Agility on Dark Knight so they go before Spiritmaster (important!).
- Having a BP Battery is a good idea. I used Hasten World. This has nasty side effects of putting bosses on a cheese loop themselves, but Stillness counteracts all of it.
- Get a Blood Sword from one of the few areas (Vampire Castle is the earliest spot).
- Have Dark Knight use Blood Sword, for drain effect on sword. Equip a Katana afterward.
- Use Low Leverage to drop the cost of Rage and Stillness to 1BP.
- When you build up a nice amount of BP, try and buff/debuff as necessary (Pay to Play ups critical to 400%).
- Rage Rage Rage Rage, and watch as your Dark Knight does up to 20 attacks in a single turn, without losing health.
- Stillness will be cast afterward, nullifying... everything (except instant death or status effects).
- Repeat, as necessary.
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: FatalT on April 04, 2014, 12:02:52 AM
I'm really enjoying this game. I just got to Chapter 4 and I've put 19 hours into it so far. Gotten all the asterisks up to this point too! I still don't have any Bravely Default friends except for the guests though. You buttheads need to add my friend code so I can use your awesome powered up characters!
Title: Re: Braverly Default is an awesome game with a dull story (official thread)
Post by: Eric P on April 04, 2014, 12:38:55 PM
added.