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Title: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 23, 2014, 04:10:58 AM
 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 23, 2014, 04:17:58 AM
No way. I thought it was 30fps on both which sounded pretty pathetic honestly.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: archnemesis on January 23, 2014, 04:26:48 AM
Jonathan Blow redeemed.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2014, 04:39:31 AM
lager you are making me want to buy an xbo dammit
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 23, 2014, 04:49:25 AM
You like cinematic 30fps?
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: pilonv1 on January 23, 2014, 06:41:26 AM
$1/frame on PS4

12.5c/frame on PC
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MCD on January 23, 2014, 06:49:11 AM
Original version was 30 fps.

X1 is true to the root.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 23, 2014, 07:01:22 AM
You were able to get Boob Raider on PC for $10 last year.  If you buy this game for $60 on the PS4/Bone, you are :derp
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 23, 2014, 07:40:44 AM
Xbone :lol
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 23, 2014, 07:55:09 AM
Saw this earlier on gaf

smh at people getting excited about a game from March of last year hitting 60 on a brand-new next-gen console

Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MCD on January 23, 2014, 07:57:18 AM
It even dips to 45 on PS4.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 23, 2014, 08:07:01 AM
It even dips to 45 on PS4.

Does Xbone even get to 45 though?

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million users after this gen is done  :teehee
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Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Vertigo on January 23, 2014, 02:13:15 PM
You were able to get Boob Raider on PC for $10 last year.  If you buy this game for $60 on the PS4/Bone, you are :derp

I do love the amount of fuckwits who last week were crying saying they were charging to much for this old game to suddenly going wow I'm picking this up asap at full price.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Steve Contra on January 23, 2014, 02:18:38 PM
Can't wait until Titanfall comes out so we can crown the next-gen champ.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: FatalT on January 23, 2014, 02:27:08 PM
I might pick this up. I enjoyed it on the PS3 but I rushed through it and don't remember a single thing from the game.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: cool breeze on January 23, 2014, 02:39:06 PM
Saw this earlier on gaf

smh at people getting excited about a game from March of last year hitting 60 on a brand-new next-gen console

I think they're excited because it makes the ps4 sound powerful by comparison.  sony is fortunate that microsoft made its console even weaker. 
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 23, 2014, 03:19:26 PM
Can't wait until Titanfall comes out so we can crown the next-gen champ.
DUDE 6V6! If it was on a real next gen system it could obviously do more and should!

You were able to get Boob Raider on PC for $10 last year.  If you buy this game for $60 on the PS4/Bone, you are :derp
Yeah charging $60 for a game of the year edition is pretty bad. It dosen't look any bit better then my PC version.

Also, it's not that exciting for these consoles to run a PS3/360 level game at 60fps. It's even bad that the PS4 can't hold 60fps.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 23, 2014, 07:21:19 PM
Who grandstands the xbone here? The quick adoption of the ps4 on this site proves we aren't fan boys so who is this shit aimed at?
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Himu on January 23, 2014, 07:22:16 PM
Viscen with the real talk.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 24, 2014, 03:49:58 AM
I'm just enjoying the Xbone crash and burn, just like the Wii U.

If it was the PS4 failing I'd be first row too don't worry.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MCD on January 24, 2014, 04:25:35 AM
http://www.nixxes.com/nixxes/newsdetail/20-uk/news/167-trhd-announced

Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition is a revamped and upscaled version of Tomb Raider, which was released in March 2013. In collaboration with Crystal Dynamics, Tomb Raider Definitive Edition will be released for Sony Playstation 4 and Microsoft Xbox One on January 28, 2014. In addition to converting the game to Playstation 4, Nixxes Software provided support to United Front Games, the developer responsible for the Xbox ONE version of the game.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 24, 2014, 05:37:58 AM
If the bone was the better product id support it, just how I had a Xbox longer then a ps2 and got a 360 before the PS3 and had it longer too. I enjoyed gaming on Xbox more for the past 10 years then on Playstation.

I switched from Android to Apple cause the games are better too there. I really go where the games are (better).

Frankly the Bone is a slap in the face to people that made the 360 popular somewhat in Europe. Thats why I hope it crashes hard. Also the last 2/3 years MS has just been lagging in every department, XBL is lagging behind the value of PS+, Netflix behind a paywell LOL etc. No more good exclusives. Now Kinect and NFL bullshit that no one cares about. The 50hz debacle. Crappier specs and multiplats. Charging more money for what? Not launching in half of Europe. The list of Xbone fuck ups is loooong compared to last gens 360. Then you have the shit they wanted to pull with used games... you just know that shit is in the freezer waiting to be pulled again.

MS had a great thing going with the 360, cheap, powerfull, easy to make games for, best online, best multiplats.

Xbone is the opposite of what made the Xbox and Xbox 360 great.

If Xbone turns it around Ill go back to it. But there really are no reasons to be on Xbone now and I really dont see them pulling Playstation 3 this gen, thats not MS style.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 24, 2014, 06:46:26 AM
And thats why I had a 360 then, as did my buddies back home. Now everyone is PS3 and 4.

Check my gamertag bro.

I dont have to play the Bone to know it has a paywall for Netflix, has useless NFL deal and kinect, worse multiplats and a 100 euro higher price tag. Not to mention its not out yet. Why would I get it? Its this gens PS3 but with no redeeming feautures (Blu Ray and free online) and little chance of fixing things. Also if the 360 is anything to go by there wont be any good MS support after the 3rd year.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: archie4208 on January 24, 2014, 07:14:52 AM
Just got the PC version for $4 at Amazon.

Have fun paying $60, console plebs.  :smug
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 24, 2014, 08:15:36 AM
I'm sorry dude but there really are no redeeming feautures for the Bone here in Europe, can you name anything? Even the tv integration doesn't work normally.

Only thing it has is Titanfall, but I have that on PC.

I know it's hard for Americans or those that live there to grasp, but thats the reality here.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: demi on January 24, 2014, 09:42:21 AM
I was gonna rent this because Tomb Raider is soooo good. But I decided not to, I'll wait a year and get the itch to replay it again, lol.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MCD on January 24, 2014, 10:20:11 AM
I'm sorry dude but there really are no redeeming feautures for the Bone here in Europe, can you name anything? Even the tv integration doesn't work normally.

Only thing it has is Titanfall, but I have that on PC.

I know it's hard for Americans or those that live there to grasp, but thats the reality here.

I use none of the TV shit and it still beat the PS4.

Ryse, KI and DR3.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 24, 2014, 10:41:04 AM
o wow the guy wit ha microsoft avatar likes the xbone whoduve thunk it  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 24, 2014, 10:44:51 AM
If the bone was the better product id support it, just how I had a Xbox longer then a ps2 and got a 360 before the PS3 and had it longer too. I enjoyed gaming on Xbox more for the past 10 years then on Playstation.

I switched from Android to Apple cause the games are better too there. I really go where the games are (better).

Frankly the Bone is a slap in the face to people that made the 360 popular somewhat in Europe. Thats why I hope it crashes hard. Also the last 2/3 years MS has just been lagging in every department, XBL is lagging behind the value of PS+, Netflix behind a paywell LOL etc. No more good exclusives. Now Kinect and NFL bullshit that no one cares about. The 50hz debacle. Crappier specs and multiplats. Charging more money for what? Not launching in half of Europe. The list of Xbone fuck ups is loooong compared to last gens 360. Then you have the shit they wanted to pull with used games... you just know that shit is in the freezer waiting to be pulled again.

MS had a great thing going with the 360, cheap, powerfull, easy to make games for, best online, best multiplats.

Xbone is the opposite of what made the Xbox and Xbox 360 great.

If Xbone turns it around Ill go back to it. But there really are no reasons to be on Xbone now and I really dont see them pulling Playstation 3 this gen, thats not MS style.

I agreed with all this XBone stuff so I bought a PS4 and moved on with my life

Also the Wii U is a much bigger clusterfuck with more twists and turns and funny stories and even that only has one thread
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 24, 2014, 10:45:17 AM
how do uget it for $4 on amazon its $9 for me
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: archie4208 on January 24, 2014, 10:52:15 AM
I had a $5 credit for buying a game off Amazon during the holiday sale.

I also got Max Payne 3 and LA Noire for $3 yesterday. 

Tony :bow2

Gaben :piss2
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 24, 2014, 10:55:19 AM
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

(http://i.imgur.com/jCDE89H.gif)
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 24, 2014, 11:31:21 AM
(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-24-2014/5k0GXm.gif)

Derpy Lara :lol
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 24, 2014, 11:47:52 AM
I had a $5 credit for buying a game off Amazon during the holiday sale.

I also got Max Payne 3 and LA Noire for $3 yesterday. 

Tony :bow2

Gaben :piss2

Thanks for the reminder, forgot I had Amazon credits. Picked up the GTA bundle for $6, and both Ace Patrol games for a buck.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 24, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
new laura looks awful.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 24, 2014, 11:58:07 AM
Animu eyes. :uguu
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Diunx on January 24, 2014, 11:59:10 AM
:neogaf
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Tasty on January 24, 2014, 12:01:48 PM
:drudge Lager thread :drudge
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: brob on January 24, 2014, 12:51:27 PM
Rerelease of a ten month old game with unstable framerate, awkward looking character model changes, and a $60 price-tag

vs

Rerelease of a ten month old game with 30fps framerate, awkward looking character model changes, and a $60 price-tag


Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: CatsCatsCats on January 24, 2014, 01:02:10 PM
Lager, bro, I know it hurt last gen when your team was down, but nobody here gives a shit
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
:lol was interested in definitive version until I saw how shit Lara looks.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Tasty on January 24, 2014, 01:39:20 PM
:lol was interested in definitive version until I saw how shit Lara looks.

:comeon

Are you even going to be looking at her face most of the game? :gurl
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2014, 01:51:54 PM
Assuming that they are willing to change her face, what else are they going to change?
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 24, 2014, 01:59:20 PM
 :nsfw (Not safe for anyone, really.)
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131124003903/glee/images/2/2d/Miley-cyrus-butt.jpg)
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Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: bork on January 24, 2014, 03:10:33 PM
Will pick this up today if it's available.  Gamestop broke the street date.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: mjemirzian on January 24, 2014, 03:35:32 PM
Already got this for $10 on Steam Sale. Thanks Gabe. :D
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 24, 2014, 04:04:00 PM
picked this up for $4 from amaozn playing it its quite good but i wish laura was ugly or something cuz i keep getting a hard on cuz her tits are perfect
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Positive Touch on January 24, 2014, 04:06:18 PM
i hope that is a methodis lie because getting a hard on from this game is  :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: bork on January 24, 2014, 04:28:46 PM
Already got this for $10 on Steam Sale. Thanks Gabe. :D

Yeah, me too- for like $7.50 I think.  Still getting it on PS4!

#DEFINITIVE EDITION
#PART OF THE PROBLEM
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 24, 2014, 04:40:32 PM
Owkay guys youre right I should stop beating a dead horse.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 24, 2014, 05:12:13 PM
New Lara looks like they exported "Anime Noriko-Chan" from Poser or something
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: demi on January 24, 2014, 05:46:41 PM
How do you not get a hard on? Lara's moans are for me :noah
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 24, 2014, 06:00:53 PM
New Lara looks like they exported "Anime Noriko-Chan" from Poser or something

(http://i.imgur.com/SEGyQxi.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Positive Touch on January 24, 2014, 06:25:45 PM
lmao new smiley plz
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Himu on January 24, 2014, 06:36:29 PM
New Lara looks like they exported "Anime Noriko-Chan" from Poser or something

(http://i.imgur.com/SEGyQxi.jpg?1)

WHY DOES SHE LOOK LIKE A CAT
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 24, 2014, 06:53:38 PM
Why do they think that was a good idea? :lol
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Pringo on January 24, 2014, 07:14:39 PM
lmao new smiley plz

(http://i.imgur.com/qNkEGuE.png)
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 24, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
She looks like post-Cheers Kirstie Alley now.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Tasty on January 24, 2014, 07:28:57 PM
Dat underjaw.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Mupepe on January 24, 2014, 08:58:13 PM
At least she looks more English.
the thread was worth it for this comment alone.

I'll rent it because I haven't played it yet. Xbone 30 fps is ok with me because its closer to 24 fps so it will be more cinematic.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Tasty on January 24, 2014, 09:46:04 PM
At least she looks more English.

(http://i.imgur.com/IFwuztU.gif)
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 24, 2014, 11:45:13 PM
I had a $5 credit for buying a game off Amazon during the holiday sale.

I also got Max Payne 3 and LA Noire for $3 yesterday. 

Tony :bow2

Gaben :piss2

oh damn, i just did this too :rock
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Third on January 25, 2014, 08:03:07 AM
Another pathetic showing for the Xbone. I'm expecting this to become a trend, though

Unless MS pays devs buckets load of money for parity.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: G The Resurrected on January 25, 2014, 03:13:49 PM
My understanding of how this game was brought to next gen is sloppy as all hell. The guys that worked on Sleeping dogs worked on Xbox one and another team worked on PS4. They had a 3 month window to port the game to the hardware and this is what we got. Regardless I'm gonna go pick up a PS4 copy today to play.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Diunx on January 25, 2014, 06:24:45 PM
Is this the edition where they give her dem tits back?
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: benjipwns on January 25, 2014, 06:27:33 PM
You'll want to protect her eyes.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: The Sceneman on January 25, 2014, 09:29:33 PM
:rofl what a joke, that about wraps it up for Xbone

(http://oi44.tinypic.com/jpivps.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Himu on January 25, 2014, 09:31:25 PM
wii u should be the sheriff tho
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Tasty on January 25, 2014, 09:53:25 PM
Wii U should be pointing with its finger, we all know it ain't got no bang.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: The Sceneman on January 25, 2014, 09:55:48 PM
the gif is perfectly accurate, the competition are gonna smoke the Bone
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: G The Resurrected on January 26, 2014, 08:50:15 AM
So I got around to playing some of this on PS4

It's a mess  :-\

So much jittery motion and audio problems it's not funny. The game really does look fantastic though, and it's impressive to see that level of detail on a console. I can only hope they fix some of the problems.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Himu on January 26, 2014, 10:07:10 AM
the gif is perfectly accurate, the competition are gonna smoke the Bone

Bone is smoking wii u.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: headwalk on January 26, 2014, 11:33:04 AM
the gif is perfectly accurate, the competition are gonna smoke the Bone

Bone is smoking wii u.

wii u had a white out after its first puff and had to call mum for a lift home.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: chronovore on January 26, 2014, 12:32:36 PM
http://www.nixxes.com/nixxes/newsdetail/20-uk/news/167-trhd-announced

Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition is a revamped and upscaled version of Tomb Raider, which was released in March 2013. In collaboration with Crystal Dynamics, Tomb Raider Definitive Edition will be released for Sony Playstation 4 and Microsoft Xbox One on January 28, 2014. In addition to converting the game to Playstation 4, Nixxes Software provided support to United Front Games, the developer responsible for the Xbox ONE version of the game.

Does this mean Nixxes did all the PS4 stuff?
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MCD on January 26, 2014, 12:54:49 PM
Yeah.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: chronovore on January 26, 2014, 03:16:18 PM
They're magicians.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Oblivion on January 27, 2014, 04:06:09 AM
Saw this earlier on gaf

smh at people getting excited about a game from March of last year hitting 60 on a brand-new next-gen console

Wait, it's the same game?!

:piss console gamers :piss2
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 27, 2014, 06:24:14 AM
Saw this earlier on gaf

smh at people getting excited about a game from March of last year hitting 60 on a brand-new next-gen console

Wait, it's the same game?!

:piss console gamers :piss2

Nah, it's got more polygons and shit, breh. Not the same content, not the same game.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: pilonv1 on January 27, 2014, 06:35:34 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if this was very common this gen.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: archie4208 on January 27, 2014, 07:42:31 AM
Saw this earlier on gaf

smh at people getting excited about a game from March of last year hitting 60 on a brand-new next-gen console

Wait, it's the same game?!

:piss console gamers :piss2

hey, someone's got to cover the production costs, and it sure as heck ain't gonna be pc buckholes

We're too smart to get swindled.  :smug

...except when it comes to hats for our favorite shooters and MOBAs.  :'(
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Groogrux on January 27, 2014, 10:12:04 AM
So I got around to playing some of this on PS4

It's a mess  :-\

So much jittery motion and audio problems it's not funny. The game really does look fantastic though, and it's impressive to see that level of detail on a console. I can only hope they fix some of the problems.

I've not had any audio problems in mine, none that I've noticed anyway.  I have seen the jittery motion though.  Still yet, I didn't play this game last gen, so I'm happy about playing it now.  I actually like it. 

Too bad I have to return it to work in a couple days...
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: FatalT on January 27, 2014, 12:47:48 PM
I'm waiting for it to go up on PSN to buy it. DIGITAL CONSOLE FUTURE
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: bork on January 27, 2014, 12:51:38 PM
No audio problems for me, either.  Framerate is great for the most part.

I did get a fun little glitch that occurred towards the beginning of the game, during the first "stealth" part when Lara is captured- I got seen seen and shot up with arrows, but instead of restarting from the checkpoint, Lara got back up and I was able to roam around, although the game kind of forced me to keep moving forward.  The enemies were oblivious to me and I fell off a ledge, but Lara remained undead and while I could no longer control or even see her, the game continued on and let me move the camera around a bit.   :lol  Didn't happen again when I reloaded the checkpoint manually.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Third on January 27, 2014, 02:59:01 PM
Quote
GAMEPLAY
Xbox One
Lowest FPS: 18fps
Highest FPS: 30fps
Average FPS: 29.84fps

PS4
Lowest FPS: 33fps
Highest FPS: 60fps
Average FPS: 50.98fps

Link (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-tomb-raider-definitive-performance-analysis)

18fps   :dead
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on January 27, 2014, 03:20:11 PM
they took the 18fps off the website. guess microsofts dollars got to them  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: G The Resurrected on January 27, 2014, 03:26:45 PM
Reinstalled the game and my motion and audio problems were gone.  :bow2

Kind of annoyed by the audio logs coming through both the tv and controller. If anything it should have only come through the controller if you turn on that functionality. Otherwise the game is fantastic and I do say it looks better in parts than its PC counterpart.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 27, 2014, 05:27:45 PM
With that extra unlocked 8% gpu xbone owners can looks forward to 24fps!
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Third on January 27, 2014, 05:28:03 PM
Ps4 gamers are the new master race since the Ps4 version looks better than the PC

Poor PC gamers with $1500 gfx cards  :dead
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: D3RANG3D on January 27, 2014, 05:28:48 PM
Ps4 gamers are the new master race since the Ps4 version looks better than the PC

(http://i.minus.com/jbxqnmJB8FWHMD.png)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.minus.com/jbhsBLQNoC79j3.png)
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Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Mupepe on January 27, 2014, 05:29:58 PM
The X1 version stays closer to its max frame rate.  The PS4 version's average is almost 17% lower than its max.  Talk about unstable.  Sheesh.  LOL @ the budget console experience.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 27, 2014, 05:30:50 PM
It time to jump in mups, greatness awaits.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Mupepe on January 27, 2014, 05:34:32 PM
I'll join the PS4 party when Infamous comes out.  But I honestly wasn't too thrilled with that long demo they showed.  I'll see.  I'll definitely be getting one.  I'm having fun with my xbox right now though.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: G The Resurrected on January 27, 2014, 06:51:30 PM
I'll join the PS4 party when Infamous comes out.  But I honestly wasn't too thrilled with that long demo they showed.  I'll see.  I'll definitely be getting one.  I'm having fun with my xbox right now though.

It's a good game, but not something that should sell consoles. The game was too short for my taste and is being rushed to release in response to there not being any games for the console.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: The Sceneman on January 27, 2014, 07:08:28 PM
The best thing about this thread; is that it keeps getting worse.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 27, 2014, 07:10:35 PM
There is no games on ps4 now?
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: The Sceneman on January 27, 2014, 07:21:36 PM
Nope, and people saying theyre gonna get a PS4 for Infamous is totally :neogaf

Infamous is complete anus, how you people subject yourselves to that kind of software is beyond me
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 27, 2014, 07:26:55 PM
Nope, and people saying theyre gonna get a PS4 for Infamous is totally :neogaf

Infamous is complete anus, how you people subject yourselves to that kind of software is beyond me

I think Duck Dynasty's ratings have proven how we all feel about the desirability of the anus
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 27, 2014, 08:05:46 PM
Ps4 gamers are the new master race since the Ps4 version looks better than the PC

Poor PC gamers with $1500 gfx cards  :dead

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-r7-260x-vs-next-gen-console

Not really, even a POS budget GPU can deliver a true 60fps experience on Tomb Raider

:umad

Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 27, 2014, 08:22:30 PM
th' fuck? i run tomb raider maxed at 60 fps on a core i5-3330 with an nvidia 760 GTX -- a $600 TOTAL rig. it cockslaps the ps4 version as no drops, far shorter load times, and no creeper lara.

next gen consoles remain a massive waste of money, and this is said by a guy who wastes money.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 27, 2014, 08:26:18 PM
Maybe frame drops duplicate shaky cam effects and make everything more cinematic?
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Mupepe on January 27, 2014, 10:53:02 PM
There is no games on ps4 now?
None that interest me enough to buy the console right now
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Yulwei on January 27, 2014, 11:12:02 PM
lolz imma wait for the PC edition of this to hit steam then i can truly play it at 60 fps locked no dips =)


consoles = exclusives only brehs


save up for a decent pc...............................
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Smooth Groove on January 28, 2014, 12:52:38 AM
New Lara looks like they exported "Anime Noriko-Chan" from Poser or something

http://i.imgur.com/SEGyQxi.jpg?1

WHY DOES SHE LOOK LIKE A CAT

she actually kinda looks like the poster Catz
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Yulwei on January 28, 2014, 01:21:39 AM
Nope, and people saying theyre gonna get a PS4 for Infamous is totally :neogaf

Infamous is complete anus, how you people subject yourselves to that kind of software is beyond me

lmfao yea

every gameplay vid ive seen the game just looks like complete trash

seriously the most sterile "superhero" game i've ever seen. even motherfucking superman returns was more fun to look at than all the infamous ss footage i've seen put together.


A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ post =))
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 28, 2014, 05:26:14 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/cQCWacC.gif)
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 28, 2014, 06:15:46 AM
Gaming news must be really bored. All this talk for a port of a year old game that was just fine on previous gen consoles.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Third on January 28, 2014, 06:19:20 AM
th' fuck? i run tomb raider maxed at 60 fps on a core i5-3330 with an nvidia 760 GTX -- a $600 TOTAL rig. it cockslaps the ps4 version as no drops, far shorter load times, and no creeper lara.

next gen consoles remain a massive waste of money, and this is said by a guy who wastes money.

$600 is still more than $399 last time I checked.

And the Ps4 version has tressfx hair. You'll need at least a $2000 PC to run the game at a stable framerate with tressfx on.

X1 version is basically last gen version with only tressfx added. But it still trashes 98,5% of the PC's out there.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MCD on January 28, 2014, 06:22:36 AM
PS4 version is too dark. Must hide the shitty textures.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Third on January 28, 2014, 08:53:34 AM
X1 version has really shitty textures

I wouldn't be surprised if this game is upscaled.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: archnemesis on January 28, 2014, 08:57:10 AM
The textures can be low resolution even if the game itself is rendered at native resolution.

You probably need to pay at least twice as much to get a PC with comparable performance to a PS4. People have a tendency to pretend that case, PSU, memory, and OS are free when it comes to PC gaming.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 28, 2014, 09:01:56 AM
Looks a lot like the version I was playing last Summer for $12
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: headwalk on January 28, 2014, 09:07:56 AM
th' fuck? i run tomb raider maxed at 60 fps on a core i5-3330 with an nvidia 760 GTX -- a $600 TOTAL rig. it cockslaps the ps4 version as no drops, far shorter load times, and no creeper lara.

next gen consoles remain a massive waste of money, and this is said by a guy who wastes money.

nice try old man, did you know you can stream twitch from a console? do you even know what twitch is?

i mean i know you can do that and a couple of other things on a PC if you have an engineering degree, but some of us are too busy getting easy pussy to learn basic.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 28, 2014, 09:13:50 AM
You tend to make up the excess cost of a PC over time through the discounted games.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: chronovore on January 28, 2014, 10:08:47 AM
:lol at this thread... It's funny enough that Kosma has upped his Sony fanboy rating from watch-listed to no-fly, but it appears that Third has resurrected his account just so he can troll Xbox fans.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: bork on January 28, 2014, 10:11:07 AM
th' fuck? i run tomb raider maxed at 60 fps on a core i5-3330 with an nvidia 760 GTX -- a $600 TOTAL rig. it cockslaps the ps4 version as no drops, far shorter load times, and no creeper lara.

next gen consoles remain a massive waste of money, and this is said by a guy who wastes money.

$600 is still more than $399 last time I checked.

And the Ps4 version has tressfx hair. You'll need at least a $2000 PC to run the game at a stable framerate with tressfx on.

X1 version is basically last gen version with only tressfx added. But it still trashes 98,5% of the PC's out there.

CLEARLY the PS4 is better thanks to TRESSFX.  BOW DOWN TO THE NEW MASTER RACE.  R.I.P. PC  :'(
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 28, 2014, 10:11:47 AM
LOL

Apparently, the PS4 version is 720p UPSCALED

:rofl

What did they upsale the Bone version from? 360p?
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MCD on January 28, 2014, 10:12:53 AM
source on that, mojo
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: demi on January 28, 2014, 10:13:46 AM
If you are bored of comparing, the 360/PS3 ver is $10 at Best Buy
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Third on January 28, 2014, 10:14:00 AM
the source is his prolapsed anus
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Mupepe on January 28, 2014, 10:45:14 AM
LOL

Apparently, the PS4 version is 720p UPSCALED

:rofl

What did they upsale the Bone version from? 360p?
aw snap.  this made me lol
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on January 28, 2014, 11:19:27 AM
4 pages

And on page 1 yall be like we dont care
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Rufus on January 28, 2014, 11:34:22 AM
That just makes it better.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: bork on January 28, 2014, 01:01:57 PM
It's a bunch of fanboys having a nerdlinger fight.

Of course it is- When it comes to next-gen, nobody has anything else to talk about!   :lol
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: FatalT on January 28, 2014, 02:54:16 PM
It's up on PSN now! Downloadiinnggggg!
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Yulwei on January 28, 2014, 05:04:19 PM
Source is insider in that GAF thread.

Go find it yourself, fuckers.

fake
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: G The Resurrected on January 28, 2014, 05:13:57 PM
(http://oi41.tinypic.com/talgsn.jpg)

I think IGN got the images mixed up again. I've seen that specific sense and it looks more like the "Xbox one" picture than that "PS4" image.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Fifstar on January 28, 2014, 06:09:56 PM
 :zzz
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: FatalT on January 28, 2014, 07:14:45 PM
I've played about 2 hours of it so far and I'm really enjoying it. I rushed through it when I played it on PS3, skipped all the cutscenes, didn't pay attention to a single thing. Just killed dudes with arrows. Now I'm actually taking the time to enjoy it.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 28, 2014, 08:46:30 PM
Are there supposed to be differences in these pictures?
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 28, 2014, 08:52:55 PM
Are there supposed to be differences in these pictures?

Lara is blurry and jaggie in the picture on the right.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: benjipwns on January 28, 2014, 08:55:03 PM
That's clearly per object motion blur on her hand. Superior PS4 technology probably allows that if you code straight to the metal.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 28, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
Are there supposed to be differences in these pictures?

Lara is blurry and jaggie in the picture on the right.
Pack it up! PS4 is weaker. Can't even remove jaggies from this quick port of a PS3 game. And look at that skin!
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 28, 2014, 09:36:55 PM
LOL

Apparently, the PS4 version is 720p UPSCALED

:rofl

That would be an insane reveal after the Digital Foundry analysis. Something like that isn't hard to confirm.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 28, 2014, 09:44:41 PM
Fucking mojo... There isn't a single mention of that, in fact them neckbeards are trying to prove the opposite.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Mupepe on January 28, 2014, 10:12:14 PM
You got trolled, son
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 28, 2014, 10:39:07 PM
I trust hazel-eyed boys way too easily.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Mupepe on January 28, 2014, 11:09:06 PM
I trust hazel-eyed boys way too easily.
I have hazel eyes and a big fat cock
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 28, 2014, 11:20:20 PM
That literally sent a shiver down my spine. Hold me.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: FatalT on January 29, 2014, 02:50:01 AM
I forgot how great this game is. It's almost 3 AM! About 50% complete though :D
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Third on January 29, 2014, 06:22:00 AM
(http://abload.de/img/groundtexturetrbhkua.png)

X1 version has worse textures, basically no anisotropic filtering, very bad depth of field, a pissfilter and N64-era framerate.


The only X1 game that runs 1080p@60fps (aka the most technically impressive game on the X1) looks like this:

(http://abload.de/img/ao067c8i.png)

:kobeyuck
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: duckman2000 on January 29, 2014, 08:26:04 AM
The only X1 game that runs 1080p@60fps (aka the most technically impressive game on the X1) looks like this:

(uglyshit.png)

:kobeyuck

What the hell is that
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Third on January 29, 2014, 08:31:22 AM
Forza 5

MS should've added graphics as microtransaction as well.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Mupepe on January 29, 2014, 09:47:59 AM
Forza 5

MS should've added graphics as microtransaction as well.
Okay.  This got me :lol
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Third on January 29, 2014, 11:18:09 AM
Final DF analysis posted today:

Quote
PS4
1080p
FXAA
40-50fps fluctuations
60fps in "cheaper" areas

Bone
1080p gameplay
900p in some cutscenes
FXAA
Lower quality DOF
Some alpha effects rendered half resolution
Reduced anisotropic filtering on artwork
Lower res textures
24-30fps drops

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-tomb-raider-definitive-edition-next-gen-face-off

X1 is such scam. Don't know why anyone would pay $100 extra for an vastly inferior console. 900p and still sub 30fps :lol
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MCD on January 29, 2014, 11:22:28 AM
Same reason you bought a PS3 last gen.

"Potential"
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: demi on January 29, 2014, 11:40:03 AM
I wish people gave this much attention to the game when it originally came out. Lol.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 29, 2014, 11:45:12 AM
It wasn't a major front in the console war back then.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Third on January 29, 2014, 12:05:48 PM
Same reason you bought a PS3 last gen.

"Potential"

Was I wrong, though? The Ps3 beat the X360 in all departments.  X1 is too local(sales) and too weak(graphics) to make a comeback.

Only a MicrosoftCockDevourer would deny this.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 29, 2014, 12:40:55 PM
MicrosoftCockDevourer and Mojobonio on blast :bow
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Mupepe on January 29, 2014, 01:03:24 PM
Dayum.  Third trollin people left and right.  Just play the games that you like, folks.  Put the swords down.  Peace and love.... peace and love.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 29, 2014, 01:39:07 PM
I wish people gave this much attention to the game when it originally came out. Lol.

Not everyone has good taste like me and you, demi.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Rahxephon91 on January 29, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
I wish people gave this much attention to the game when it originally came out. Lol.

Not everyone has good taste like me and you, demi.
Hey I gave it attention when it came out. I've played it on both systems and PC. I really like TR. Am I part of this "good taste club"?
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MCD on January 29, 2014, 02:53:25 PM
Game was awesome but I don't want to replay it now. Maybe next year.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: The Sceneman on January 29, 2014, 02:56:55 PM
I rented on Trey Nasty when it came out. Beat the game, it was pretty cool. Not really a Tomb Raider game though. Considered platforming sequences have been thrown out in favor of cover based shooting and push A to win on rails everything is exploding sequences. Also didn't get 1000 thanks to asswipe multiplayer

6/10
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: demi on January 29, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
I wish people gave this much attention to the game when it originally came out. Lol.

Not everyone has good taste like me and you, demi.

<3
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: FatalT on January 29, 2014, 05:18:55 PM
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31/1553584_278128422344019_552551100_o.jpg)

74% done now. SO GOOD!
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Trent Dole on January 29, 2014, 07:13:06 PM
I don't understand why anything is supposedly being revealed here. We all knew the bone was the weaker machine before either released. Fucking console warriors.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: The Sceneman on January 29, 2014, 07:26:56 PM
What absolutely baffles me, is how anyone can physically stomach gaming on a Playstation. It's just incredible what types of misery the human psyche can overcome.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Third on January 30, 2014, 08:05:47 AM
Quote
Time until playable:
PS4: 40 seconds
XB1: 2 minutes 14 seconds

The X1 is a gift that keeps on giving  :lol
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: MCD on January 30, 2014, 08:08:52 AM
it's full install vs partial.
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Trent Dole on January 30, 2014, 06:50:23 PM
Lol I hate you Sceneman. :heart
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2014, 09:39:48 PM
I trust hazel-eyed boys way too easily.
I have hazel eyes and a big fat cock

me too

let's dock

shaka can watch
Title: Re: Tomb Raider 60fps on PS4, 30fps on Xbox One
Post by: Mupepe on January 30, 2014, 09:48:34 PM
I trust hazel-eyed boys way too easily.
I have hazel eyes and a big fat cock

me too

let's dock

shaka can watch
can we simulate radio chatter?

this is big white closing in on your d port. Requesting permission to attach.