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Title: Game
Post by: Borys on April 12, 2014, 08:48:02 AM
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Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2014, 08:52:27 AM
Yesssssss

I hope it still has the amazing writing of AC1. Chairman Yangggg
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 12, 2014, 09:18:06 AM
If satellites exist, why we still got fog of war, tho?
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Fifstar on April 12, 2014, 09:50:47 AM
Hook it to my veins!

Also love the cover art.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: pilonv1 on April 12, 2014, 10:04:50 AM
:rejoice
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: thisismyusername on April 12, 2014, 10:09:18 AM
If satellites exist, why we still got fog of war, tho?

Because that'll be a mid/late-game upgrade, hopefully?
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on April 12, 2014, 10:38:01 AM
I am so hard right now. Can't wait for the Firaxis panel today. :rejoice

Probably spent 200+ hours on AC1 over the years. Hundreds of save files, at least.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on April 12, 2014, 10:53:02 AM
 :gladbron
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2014, 12:42:02 PM
 :leon
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 12, 2014, 12:44:25 PM
Frag's the Civ nut, I'm the Diablo/arpg nut.

...I'll still probably play the shit out of this at launch, tho.

:rejoice PC master race!
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on April 12, 2014, 12:44:33 PM
:rejoice
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: archie4208 on April 12, 2014, 02:50:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2grKk4Fv0k

:lawd
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on April 12, 2014, 03:13:26 PM
 :gladbron
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 12, 2014, 04:34:30 PM
I got a boxed copy of alpha centauri here, gonna install again to get ready for this
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on April 12, 2014, 07:41:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2grKk4Fv0k

:lawd

:rejoice
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: benjipwns on April 12, 2014, 07:58:45 PM
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/civilization_beyond_earth/b/pc/archive/2014/04/12/civilization-beyond-earth-announced-here-s-everything-you-want-to-know.aspx

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My first reaction when I heard that the next Civilization game takes players to an alien world is probably not so different than other strategy fans. "Why not just call it Alpha Centauri?" I muttered to myself. It was also the first question I asked co-lead designer Dave McDonough (who is teamed up with Will Miller) and lead producer Lena Brenk.

"There is a lot of inspiration from Alpha Centauri in this game," McDonough says. "We even have a couple of people who worked on that game still on the team and helping us make the game. It's not Alpha Centauri 2. It's not a sequel. It's a whole new imagining of what civilization in the future, civilization in space could be. There are many homages and nods and winks to Alpha Centauri. And there's a huge creative and spiritual debt we owe to the groundwork that game laid, but this is a whole new idea." It also helps to now that the Alpha Centauri property is still owned by EA. "The heart of Alpha Centauri lives at Firaxis, though," Miller says.
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"It's also important to note that you're not going to get all the technologies in a single game," McDonough explains. "The clash between your technological limits will drive a lot of the in-game play. The web design allows you to play the game in a discovery-oriented mode."

In addition to the drastic changes to victory conditions, players will encounter a stronger narrative thread in each of their games. Mankind is leaving Earth following something called "the great mistake." "A messed up Earth wouldn't be reason enough for us to leave," Miller says. He goes on to tell a story of the inevitable photograph that will be taken of a life-sustaining world somewhere out in space. It's that hopefulness and challenge that sets mankind on its new journey.

Once on the planet, quests will help players define their civilization's identity, giving players tasks (including chains of quests) that will help tell a story. Players will also have access to technology that gives them control over part of the planet's orbit. These creations can impact the terrain below, aid with terraforming, enhance tiles, rile up alien wildlife, or initiate strikes against enemies. Much like ocean-faring vessels in previous Civilization games, orbital units can be destroyed and interfered with.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 12, 2014, 08:05:46 PM
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/civilization_beyond_earth/b/pc/archive/2014/04/12/civilization-beyond-earth-announced-here-s-everything-you-want-to-know.aspx

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My first reaction when I heard that the next Civilization game takes players to an alien world is probably not so different than other strategy fans. "Why not just call it Alpha Centauri?" I muttered to myself. It was also the first question I asked co-lead designer Dave McDonough (who is teamed up with Will Miller) and lead producer Lena Brenk.

"There is a lot of inspiration from Alpha Centauri in this game," McDonough says. "We even have a couple of people who worked on that game still on the team and helping us make the game. It's not Alpha Centauri 2. It's not a sequel. It's a whole new imagining of what civilization in the future, civilization in space could be. There are many homages and nods and winks to Alpha Centauri. And there's a huge creative and spiritual debt we owe to the groundwork that game laid, but this is a whole new idea." It also helps to know that the Alpha Centauri property is still owned by EA. "The heart of Alpha Centauri lives at Firaxis, though," Miller says.

They can be coy about it, but the sole reason this isn't being called Alpha Centauri 2 is because EA owns the license.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Fragamemnon on April 13, 2014, 05:30:33 AM

They can be coy about it, but the sole reason this isn't being called Alpha Centauri 2 is because EA owns the license.

Don't be so sure about that. The choice in title seems clearly deliberate to dog whistle the SMAC fanbase, but at the same time clearly distinguishing it as a Civilization game with no certain obligations made to any of SMAC's specific trappings.

The thing that should get Civ players excite is really the variable staring choices, partially complete tech trees per play (you cannot get all techs possible, so you will have to adapt your science path, which is totally new) , two-tier city structure (starts as outposts and promotes to full cities) and the fact that we will tech things like Ethical Calculus and Sentient Econometrics instead of Fishing and Metal Working.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Himu on April 13, 2014, 02:51:25 PM
that trailer is perfect but now I feel bad I haven't bought Civ 5 and all its expansions yet
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 14, 2014, 06:33:14 AM
Installed alpha centauri but it:

-wont run without the disk inside
-won run on w8 it seems

Pc gaming :(
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: chronovore on April 14, 2014, 07:32:51 AM
I've got my copy of GURPS Alpha Centauri here in Osaka. Man, I wish I had someone to play it with. :fbm
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: archie4208 on April 14, 2014, 07:47:11 AM
Installed alpha centauri but it:

-wont run without the disk inside
-won run on w8 it seems

Pc gaming :(

Download the GOG version.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: pilonv1 on April 14, 2014, 08:17:05 AM
that trailer is perfect but now I feel bad I haven't bought Civ 5 and all its expansions yet

leper this filth
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: CajoleJuice on April 14, 2014, 10:29:10 AM
Installed alpha centauri but it:

-wont run without the disk inside
-won run on w8 it seems

Pc gaming :(

wow need to spend $6 on gog.com what a nightmare
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 14, 2014, 12:36:14 PM
I have a legit boxed copy already.

Why would I spend another 6 bucks?

Typical scumbag capitalist logic.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 14, 2014, 12:38:09 PM
A legit boxed copy that you're complaining about because it doesn't work. :umad
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 14, 2014, 01:03:37 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Himu on April 14, 2014, 01:13:19 PM
Installed alpha centauri but it:

-wont run without the disk inside
-won run on w8 it seems

Pc gaming :(

Haven't heard of GOG?
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Himu on April 14, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
that trailer is perfect but now I feel bad I haven't bought Civ 5 and all its expansions yet

leper this filth

I keep telling myself "next steam sale" :yeshrug

And always pass it up when it's on sale.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Fragamemnon on April 14, 2014, 01:41:42 PM
Civ 5 is one of those great Steam sale buys because it keeps you from buying anything else for months.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Rufus on April 14, 2014, 02:14:18 PM
Provided you install and play it immediately.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 14, 2014, 02:31:55 PM
Civ 2 is still my fav.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on September 17, 2014, 11:08:45 AM
October!? :noah (http://i.imgur.com/0n2o8dr.png)
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 17, 2014, 06:53:11 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cheddahz on September 17, 2014, 07:59:32 PM
Civ V online does take too long (as Esch already said), but my god, that game is dope and I'm sure this one will be as well
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 03, 2014, 01:24:34 PM
October 24th, brehs. :hyper
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Fragamemnon on October 03, 2014, 01:55:34 PM
Does anyone know if this game will get expansions? Despite how much I loved Civ V the base game wasn't exactly the best.

Almost certain. Firaxis loves the expansion pack model for updating their games-it lets them dig in and play around with the things they like best (systems design) without having to deal with the things the company is not as good at (tools and engine programming).
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 03, 2014, 01:55:41 PM
Ofc it will, when is the last time a civ base game was good?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Civ 2
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Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Fragamemnon on October 03, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
The only reason why new Civ games get a bad rap is because the previous one has years of content and systems design built on top of its original release. It's like if Blizzard made a new World of Warcraft, but everyone dinged them for not making a decade worth of content for it (as an aside, this is one of the reasons why making a new WoW makes no sense).
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 03, 2014, 02:13:17 PM
Good point, but wow did have tons of great content from the bat.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: pilonv1 on October 03, 2014, 06:05:09 PM
This is probably building off what they've done with Civ 5 & 2 expansions so I would think it will be in a better state than standard base Civ games
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 03, 2014, 06:39:30 PM
I'm going to wait until either a price drop or the first expansion. 
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: pilonv1 on October 03, 2014, 08:21:32 PM
GMG and GamersGate have had 20/25% off coupons recently. I only paid $40
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Rufus on October 15, 2014, 02:58:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEl9kI2Aluw

:tocry
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: pilonv1 on October 15, 2014, 10:20:08 PM
Maddjinn has some pre release lets plays up on YouTube but haven't watched them yet.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 22, 2014, 01:08:32 PM
Pre-ordered! :phil :mynicca :noah
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Steve Youngblood on October 22, 2014, 11:29:04 PM
I saw a link today for 25% off at GMG, and I clicked it. Added it to my cart, was super tempted to buy, but just couldn't quite pull the trigger. Then, I clicked checkout anyway. Lo and behold, I had ten cents worth of credit to apply toward my next purchase. $37.50? Meh. I'll wait for a Steam sale. But $37.40? Shit yeah I'm in.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Damian79 on October 23, 2014, 02:48:00 PM
Man this game is awesome.  It is like everything good about Civ 5 minus religion, add quests and real control over the direction of your civilization.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 23, 2014, 03:31:35 PM
 :gladbron
Tempted to take off work tomorrow.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 23, 2014, 04:05:49 PM
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8640/benchmarked-civilization-beyond-earth
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 23, 2014, 04:45:23 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=135563575&postcount=182

(http://i.imgur.com/Sk1GHHf.png)
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: toku on October 23, 2014, 08:01:06 PM
I can get this for like 30 something at GMG so I've been like this for the past hour:
(http://i.minus.com/ibjA7hOyGgjcM2.JPG)
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: toku on October 23, 2014, 08:32:50 PM
Domino effect bruh. Pre-loading.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on October 24, 2014, 02:36:54 AM
Side Note: This game makes me wonder what they'll do for Civ 6. It would be interesting to have to deal with things like famines, floods, plagues, etc.
random events in BTS gave that game so much character, the communitas mod in ciV did something pretty similar, but I think we're due for more streamlining, especially as concerns the vanilla release of each subsequent installment


as far as Beyond Earf goes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_JwkKKS3w
at least until a Steam sale. Godspeed to y'all though (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/aqDwC.png)
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 24, 2014, 03:03:30 AM
82 meta, will wait for steam sale
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: toku on October 24, 2014, 03:54:27 AM
Slavic Federation setup right next to me then said I was claiming their lands. Then ARC sees me aligning with Africa and India and tells me they're going to war with India and I should help.

Fuck siege worms.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 24, 2014, 04:00:22 AM
Impressions on gaf are mixed, waddya guys think?
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: pilonv1 on October 24, 2014, 05:21:56 AM
This game is great but the big pictures not there for me yet. Also feels like the combat is a bitch. Eat a dick siege worms :pacspit

Agreed, there's just something missing but it has everything I should love.

I think the random UI is doing it. Everything seems to be in a different spot for no reason
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 24, 2014, 11:50:50 AM
Unlocked early using flyvpn and played from 6:30pm to 1 am. :rejoice

Still trying to feel out the tech tree.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: nudemacusers on October 24, 2014, 12:08:00 PM
no mac version :brazilcry
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: fizzel on October 24, 2014, 12:53:19 PM
These factions are all dogshit.  :yuck
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: toku on October 24, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
It took me a lot of turns until I figured out what I wanted to do in the tech tree (filtering and searching helps! doh!). Kinda wanted to start over but I think I'm gonna see this map through. Harmony tha only way.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: pilonv1 on October 26, 2014, 01:45:47 AM
Slowly warming to this but the pace is glacial and the other civs are so bland.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: pilonv1 on October 26, 2014, 09:39:48 PM
He's mostly right. 300 turns into my game last night and I'm about to win easily. 80% of was hitting next turn or making quest decisions that don't matter. I think there were maybe 3-4 war declarations in total and no cities changed hands, and I barely saw anyone else's units, it was mostly watching OP trade routes move around. This is on one of the middle difficulties though, I will move up to Immortal equivalent after this game.

Espionage is one of the few mechanics they've managed to nail though. 
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 28, 2014, 09:16:10 AM
Running this on Mantle vs DX11 makes my machine run much quieter.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 28, 2014, 03:09:30 PM
Biowells are a great counter to mid game health issues. Granted it costs gold, but everyone should be rolling in it with trade routes.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 28, 2014, 03:15:47 PM
I like how Frag said that in BNW, everyone starts out different and ends up the same. In BE, everyone starts the same and ends up different.

I might have to speed up the pace. I always love playing on Epic, but it takes like 4 hours to hit 380 turns.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 28, 2014, 03:43:46 PM
Like 5-10% depending on the card. Like you would see a higher benefit from a 290 than you would a 270.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: toku on October 28, 2014, 04:48:31 PM
The Quest functions are the best thing in this game. Except they need more. More more more. And maybe need to beef up the concept of them as well somehow.

There needs to be a richer narrative over this game to replace the deficit of the story of humanity told by the vanilla Civ games.

I was actually hoping for a richer narrative too.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 28, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
Go for Purity while letting The Augmented take refuge and use their tech not to make them human again, brehs. :hitler
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: toku on October 28, 2014, 09:13:47 PM
Every game ive started, slavic federation always sets up shop right next to me, bitches for a hundred turns then invades. Brownest nations are always the most chill but in this last game African Union was trying to get at me because I was going for a Supremacy win and killing too many aliens. I picked a really poor place to settle my capital city. Right next to an alien nest and then a siege worm for like 40 turns.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: toku on October 29, 2014, 12:24:02 AM
I haven't had a problem with them either just sometimes you get unlucky and it pops up on a trade route or near a city and if you're still early game you can't really do a lot about it safely. The one near my city I eventually killed with one rocket rover. It got caught in a loop between two of my workers. One was trying to repair some roads behind it, so it'd go after the closest one each turn and each turn they would just run back to w/e city was closest. This kept in a back and forth loop for like 30 turns so I just had a single rocket rover sit at the edge of my capital and hit it for 8-10 dmg everytime it would move back in range ever other turn.

Still got invaded by slavic fed that game though but im not gonna take that L. The map was garbage.

 :pacspit
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on November 14, 2014, 03:34:34 PM
Anyone know why I can click to build the exodus gate but nothing happens? It doesn't say there are any other prerequisites.
I mean I research the tech and have the purity points to build it but it doesn't show up in any build que.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: thisismyusername on May 18, 2015, 12:07:36 PM
He's not wrong, though? Everyone bitched about Civ 5 until Gods and Kings, IIRC.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: archie4208 on May 18, 2015, 01:41:13 PM
Just buy Endless Legend and its expansion, brehs.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Samson Manhug on August 16, 2015, 11:36:53 AM
This is free to play for the next five hours. If you miss that it's on sale for half off until tomorrow. I'm going to try it out now.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Samson Manhug on August 16, 2015, 12:23:58 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tHQpDvhl.png)

Looks like I need a new computer. :(
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: archnemesis on August 16, 2015, 01:53:13 PM
Is the new expansion also free to try?
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Fragamemnon on August 16, 2015, 03:55:11 PM
One frustrating thing about Firaxis is that they are so good at refining their products based on user feedback, but don't actually engage their users for feedback before release. The other frustrating thing is that they are fixated on big expansion pack level content updates when they could be doing EU4/CK2 style individual system overhauls + new features in a continuous development model which suits PC gamers much better.

What they do works but it could work much better. They have top tier talent, just need to budge out of the comfort zone in terms of how they release their software.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: thisismyusername on August 16, 2015, 04:58:48 PM
This is free to play for the next five hours. If you miss that it's on sale for half off until tomorrow. I'm going to try it out now.

$20 ain't bad, but I'm wondering if it'll be sub $15 in the Winter Sale... that's why I'm kinda holding off, I'm not sure how much lower it'll go.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on August 31, 2015, 01:53:53 AM
Bought this two weeks ago hoping to rekindle some SMAC memories. Or at the very least, see what the big fuss for Civ 5 was all about.

Then I played it.

Then I realized SMAC has had a Mac port for ages.

Why am I playing this drek?
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: thisismyusername on August 31, 2015, 07:47:12 AM
Bought this two weeks ago hoping to rekindle some SMAC memories. Or at the very least, see what the big fuss for Civ 5 was all about.

Then I played it.

Then I realized SMAC has had a Mac port for ages.

Why am I playing this drek?

Because you don't own Civ5. :ufup

spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's not that bad.
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Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: archie4208 on August 31, 2015, 08:05:15 AM
BE is pretty bad.  :fbm

Civ5 is the GOAT though.  :bow2
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on August 31, 2015, 09:24:40 AM
It's not bad, it's just... exactly SMAC but far far shallower. I don't give a fuck about any of the goober leaders in this game where as the cast of SMAC was dripping with personality. There's literally no story in BE, one unit per tile is bullshit, the UI looks like RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 and most buttons are too damn big, the AI is worse... I could go on.

The AI is worse! Almost 20 years later and the AI is worse. Goddamn.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on August 31, 2015, 03:02:45 PM
This game is more like Alpha Centauri 0.2. I demand a title change.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on September 07, 2015, 03:21:51 AM
So despite my bitching I've still dumped like 30 hours into this... :lol and I still haven't really dug deep into everything yet. So kudos there. Will probably buy the expansion next month. Apparently I've played more than Esch who had a lot more posts ITT, lol.

That said, my previous posts' points still stand.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Samson Manhug on September 15, 2015, 04:05:37 PM
Just buy Endless Legend and its expansion, brehs.

The winter expansion or another? I've been trying to get into this.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on October 18, 2015, 09:28:36 PM
The first expansion pack, Rising Tide was released two weeks ago. I haven't bought it yet cause I'm super broke atm, but they also updated the base game.

Speaking as someone who put ~30 hours into the pre-patch version, it feels like an enhanced port. Not a totally new game of course, but substantially more fleshed out. The Unit Upgrade screen has been completely overhauled, the Technology Web is signficantly more colorful and easier to understand, and the interstitial dialogs after completing most actions have full text and new illustrations. It just feels like a significantly more content-full experience.

I can't speak to any underlying balance tweaks or whatnot yet, and it won't change anyone's mind about the game, but it does feel a little nicer now. Might end up dumping another 5-10 hours at least.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: pilonv1 on October 19, 2015, 08:56:14 AM
I've seen Frag playing it on my Steam friends list. The RPS Wot I think wasn't very kind though
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on October 19, 2015, 09:14:25 AM
I've seen Frag playing it on my Steam friends list. The RPS Wot I think wasn't very kind though

It wasn't and I think that's fair if it indeed shipped as buggy as it was. The peace negotiation "mechanic" was also a big deal-breaker for a lot of people in the comments so I assume that's on the mark as well (it's the same as it was if you just have the base game as I do.)

One other thing I forgot to mention: :drudge there's actually animations with voiceover when you complete a Victory. They're pretty basic but an absolutely needed touch, game felt really half-baked without them.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 19, 2015, 02:16:25 PM
I've seen Frag playing it on my Steam friends list. The RPS Wot I think wasn't very kind though

Same here. I hoped he would've came here and gave his thoughts. I know he didn't care much for BE so I wondered if this solved the things he didn't like about BE.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on October 19, 2015, 04:06:29 PM
Who's Frag?
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Rufus on October 19, 2015, 04:13:08 PM
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=513

Resident Civ god deity and a "really smart cookie". Posts more on GAF these days. :V
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 23, 2015, 10:22:10 AM
I have to say I'm very impressed with the expansion. There is so much new content. :lawd

The aliens are assholes, there are a lot of them, and more types. Diplomacy adds some nice depth to your civ.

:bow Firaxis :bow2
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 23, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
Why did frag stop posting here
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on October 23, 2015, 03:27:22 PM
I have to say I'm very impressed with the expansion. There is so much new content. :lawd

The aliens are assholes, there are a lot of them, and more types. Diplomacy adds some nice depth to your civ.

:bow Firaxis :bow2

I've heard the problem with the Diplomacy system is it forces the conditions for peace and the AIs won't ever agree with it until you're basically about to wipe them out anyways.

Otherwise, yeah, I like a lot of what they're doing. Waiting for a price drop or steam sale though
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 23, 2015, 04:43:52 PM
I don't think I've ever had a war with another civ in this game. : :idont

Maybe that will change. :phil
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on October 23, 2015, 05:37:29 PM
The aliens being more dick-ish doesn't really affect me either tbh cause I usually do Harmony.

Then I wield their dick-ish power over the others. :phil
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on July 23, 2018, 01:55:59 AM
I still play this fairly regularly. Scratches an itch. :yeshrug
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Maiden Voyage on July 25, 2018, 06:03:18 PM
I really wanted to like it but got bored before finishing a single game. I dropped Civ 6 because it had too much shit going on so maybe I will have to give this another go.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Brehvolution on July 26, 2018, 10:10:35 AM
The Rising Tide expansion makes it a finished game. It was pretty boring without it.
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 26, 2018, 10:49:48 AM
Man this bump just reminded me Frag doesnt post here anymore
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: Tasty on July 26, 2018, 11:49:04 AM
The Rising Tide expansion makes it a finished game. It was pretty boring without it.

I wish it got 1 more expansion to round things out but oh well. :-\
Title: Re: Civilization: Beyond Earf (Alpha Centauri 2.0)
Post by: thisismyusername on July 27, 2018, 07:44:38 PM
The Rising Tide expansion makes it a finished game. It was pretty boring without it.

I wish it got 1 more expansion to round things out but oh well. :-\

It's a shame they probably won't take another crack at it. I do feel there's some solid foundations there that they could make the Alpha Centari/Alien Crossfire people really want.