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Worst opinions of any human being ever. Raban was just trying to convince me that its best to play ARPG's with a controller instead of a keyboard + mouse about an hour ago.
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IE11 is a beast. Metro version especially.
IE is my main browser. Come at me, bros :umad
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Worst opinions of any human being ever. Raban was just trying to convince me that its best to play ARPG's with a controller instead of a keyboard + mouse about an hour ago.
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I use IE11 and FF. Both are excellent and do the job for me.IE11 is a beast. Metro version especially.
Shhh. You're in the trust tree. You can speak freely here.
I'm gonna back Raban on the controller thing, but since I have no idea what I'm talking about, it'll probably just hurt his case.first of all get your pronouns right, nicca :ufup even the lady at the DMV gets it right
We are talking about action RPG's, right?
to be fair the baldur's gate dark alliance games played better on a game padX-Men Legends and related might too.
We are talking about action RPG's, right?
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games work best on the controls for which they were designedProof or ban.
games work best on the controls for which they were designed
games work best on the controls for which they were designedShooters will always be better to control with a mouse though. It's a pointing interface. For aiming, you can't get a much better fit than that, really.
I dunno, shooters that place more emphasis on movement rather than aiming (i.e. games that were designed on console like CoD, Halo, etc.) tend to be really boring and easy with mouse controls. It wasn't until I played them on a controller that they really made sense.games work best on the controls for which they were designedShooters will always be better to control with a mouse though. It's a pointing interface. For aiming, you can't get a much better fit than that, really.spoiler (click to show/hide)The Novint Falcon could have added something meaningful, but that predictably didn't take off, so...[close]
I dunno, shooters that place more emphasis on movement rather than aiming (i.e. games that were designed on console like CoD, Halo, etc.) tend to be really boring and easy with mouse controls. It wasn't until I played them on a controller that they really made sense.
Conceptually I agree with you, but many modern FPS aren't designed around the insanely high precision of a mouse.
(http://i.minus.com/jthIMbB4hvpXY.png) why don't you just turn the difficulty up
Wiimote > kb/m(http://i.imgur.com/Qs4oKSQ.gif)
Wiimote > kb/m
Wiimote > kb/m
Wiimote > kb/m
Can one really evaluate the quality of the WiiMote as a means of control when there's nothing to play with it?
Wiimote+, yes, standard Wiimote, no. (http://imgur.com/zIzq4r9.jpg) Provided the re-sync is fast for when you inevitably wander off the screen. Lightguns were cool, too.
Point is, even a touchscreen is better than a stick. Driving the reticule to a point on the screen is just crap.
But, precision.
Tablets are obvious the best way to play for RTS.
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How the fuck would it be? Shit's a jittery mess every time I've seen it. :whatBut, precision.
IR is more precise.
Tablets are obvious the best way to play for RTS.Actually, that gigantic touch-table (was that Surface before Surface became Surface?) that Microsoft had wouldn't be too bad with the right UI.
How the fuck would it be? Shit's a jittery mess every time I've seen it. :what
:what Have you actually used it? Are you pointing it at candles?The cursor jiggles and that upsets my sensibilities enough to be annoying. (http://imgur.com/zIzq4r9.jpg)
Wiimote+ drifting and recalibration is awful and it's slow as shit. IR forever.Heard about the constant calibration thing. Shame. Not that it's relevant any more, but hey...
Touch interfaces are great for turn-based strategy. They're also better than a mouse for aiming. Sadly, you have to do more than aim in most FPS games.A big enough monitor would have enough room for WASD and a menu button off in the corner somewhere, but a nunchuck would accomplish the same thing. The real dealbreaker is that you'd be obscuring to much of the screen with your aiming hand and your arm would get tired from holding it at the ready most of the time.
For some reason raban seems allergic to higher difficulty modes. She was saying Diablo 3 is boring so I was like turn the difficulty up, normal is lame. And it took some effort before she listened to me! Turned the difficulty up and now she likes D3!I... uh... what? Are you sure this was me? I never remember having that conversation. I'm actually stanning for the higher difficulties against Triumph's suggestion in our Diablo 3 thread. And not just that, but as far as shooters like Doom, Stalker, Halo, I play them all on the hard difficulties, and hell I beat Darksiders on the hardest difficulty.
For some reason raban seems allergic to higher difficulty modes. She was saying Diablo 3 is boring so I was like turn the difficulty up, normal is lame. And it took some effort before she listened to me! Turned the difficulty up and now she likes D3!I... uh... what? Are you sure this was me? I never remember having that conversation. I'm actually stanning for the higher difficulties against Triumph's suggestion in our Diablo 3 thread. And not just that, but as far as shooters like Doom, Stalker, Halo, I play them all on the hard difficulties, and hell I beat Darksiders on the hardest difficulty.
Not every game has well-balanced difficulty settings, and that's especially prevalent in shooters like CoD where the main difference between normal and veteran is the health you or the enemy have. Dude I'm in NG+ on Dark Souls 2 right now and beat the Flexile Sentry (link to a video if you're curious (http://youtu.be/3iA-l5_prS4)) without getting hit once. What the fuck are you talking about.
I've never understood the "tired arm" thing about the Wii. You know you don't have to hold your arm up or outstretched the whole time, right? You can rest your forearm on your leg or chair arm or w/e and still IR point with crazy accuracy. The shaking and waggling, yeah, but the pointer is great for the lazy man.
"Tangible, loot rewards" ... "you're basically just measuring e-peens"
I've never understood the "tired arm" thing about the Wii. You know you don't have to hold your arm up or outstretched the whole time, right? You can rest your forearm on your leg or chair arm or w/e and still IR point with crazy accuracy. The shaking and waggling, yeah, but the pointer is great for the lazy man.I'm talking about touchscreens. Wouldn't you have to keep your hand at the ready pretty much all the fucking time in an FPS? Something could pop-out up time and you can't just flick your wrist.
For some reason raban seems allergic to higher difficulty modes. She was saying Diablo 3 is boring so I was like turn the difficulty up, normal is lame. And it took some effort before she listened to me! Turned the difficulty up and now she likes D3!I... uh... what? Are you sure this was me? I never remember having that conversation. I'm actually stanning for the higher difficulties against Triumph's suggestion in our Diablo 3 thread. And not just that, but as far as shooters like Doom, Stalker, Halo, I play them all on the hard difficulties, and hell I beat Darksiders on the hardest difficulty.
Not every game has well-balanced difficulty settings, and that's especially prevalent in shooters like CoD where the main difference between normal and veteran is the health you or the enemy have. Dude I'm in NG+ on Dark Souls 2 right now and beat the Flexile Sentry (link to a video if you're curious (http://youtu.be/3iA-l5_prS4)) without getting hit once. What the fuck are you talking about.
I've never understood the "tired arm" thing about the Wii. You know you don't have to hold your arm up or outstretched the whole time, right? You can rest your forearm on your leg or chair arm or w/e and still IR point with crazy accuracy. The shaking and waggling, yeah, but the pointer is great for the lazy man.
Using a Wii remote without resting it on your knee or something is as wrong as playing an ARPG with keyboard and mouse.Old roomate had a chair where the arms were the absolutely perfect design for using a Wiimote. Came close to trying to buy it off her while playing Corruption.
And you did have problems with having to go through D3 on normal, but that was prolly a common complaint. It did take some egging you to up the difficulty and make you realize that D3 isn't the type of game that can be critiqued by its normal mode.I honestly think it's just that I didn't like playing through the campaign, period. It's not fun. In fact, I wasn't a fan of Diablo 3 at all until Loot 2.0 happened, on any difficulty. After that I wasn't fuckin with Torment because you kinda have to have the right gear to survive in it. Once I got RoS and unlocked Adventure mode I never looked back. The campaign is still ass to grind and will be forever imo.
The great thing about Diablo and arpgs, is that they can be completely different things to different people, and that's ok. Some people are totally fine plunking down $60 for the game, playing it once leisurely, and never picking it up again. Some people will play it for a couple months with their friends.yeah I have a friend who told me that "on Hard it takes too long to kill guys" when it's really like .5 seconds longer. I understand it didn't really benefit me much as far as loot is concerned to beat Act V on Expert, but I expressly did not want to just content-tourist my way through that act. I wanted that shit to last and at 60-69 I certainly didn't have the gear to hang on Torment.
...and some people will just quit living and sink thousands of hours into it playing it at the highest levels, chasing rare, perfectly rolled items.
None of the MS crowd wanted to come in here and take the L
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martyring myself in this thread :fbm
martyring myself in this thread :fbm
It's ok, boo. We still love you. You just have weird sensibilities.
We are never eating at olive garden, PD:beli
more like
Internet Exploder
we should go some place where no one is satisfied like old country buffet
we should go some place where no one is satisfied like old country buffetSuch a variety!
Could we go to CrACker barrel instead? Ive never had the opportunity to sample any of Esau's den of delights.
we should go some place where no one is satisfied like old country buffet
Does Grandy's stay open late? I need to know for...uh...research.
I can't imagine a kb/m making Chrono Trigger more enjoyable.
Yea...I'm not going to Cracker Barrel again :lol
Where else can you get apple butter though?
Where else can you get apple butter though?
Last time we were there, everyone else got their food but me. :maf
Am I the only one who uses Opera? It's actually really good. It's like Chrome, without the weird dumb shit.
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Worst opinions of any human being ever. Raban was just trying to convince me that its best to play ARPG's with a controller instead of a keyboard + mouse about an hour ago.
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Last time we were there, everyone else got their food but me. :maf
Had you been to the beach recently?
or try IE :phil honestly I used to be a Chrome fanatic but as it got worse I ran the browsers side by side and even gave Chrome the advantage. no plug-ins, addons, anything, and IE11 still loads pages faster.Am I the only one who uses Opera? It's actually really good. It's like Chrome, without the weird dumb shit.
I used to use it, but I found Google ran speed circles around it at the time. Chrome's gotten a lot worse over the years, though, maybe I should give Opera another go.
Depends on the ARPG. The ones in the style of "Souls"/third person? Do play better with a controller in some cases. ARPG's in the case of Diablo/"lootwhore?" Yeah, I agree with Esch and others on keyboard and mouse.I agree with this, but when I think about it I still prefer gaming with a controller in almost every instance. The only thing keeping me from playing a game like Diablo on my 360 is the fuck-awful menus and the way that it's a noticeably worse game with regards to performance/mob size/etc. But say, like, Doom 1? I prefer the XBLA version over dosboxing it on my PC.
It's really a case-by-case basis.
Swipe to page back sounds more work than clicking a back page. How does it work?
I would have killed to grow up with 56k Internet. I mean, technically, I grew up with *no* Internet, but my teen years were mostly 14400. I remember finally getting a 28800 in high school and being like "oh shiii the speeeed".
Okay now it's chronovore's turn
Browser speed is very important to me because my computer is a giant pile of shit. I think for add-ons I only use Adblock.
Morpheus :tocry
Audio Galaxy :tocry
I would have killed to grow up with 56k Internet. I mean, technically, I grew up with *no* Internet, but my teen years were mostly 14400. I remember finally getting a 28800 in high school and being like "oh shiii the speeeed".
Okay now it's chronovore's turn
Yeah, Chronovore, tell us about your carrier pidgeons.
Fuck, didn't see that there's another page. :lol
IE 11 touch mode is pretty great, it's my favorite of the tablet browsers I've used. I'm surprised no one's ripped off the awesome "swipe right to page back" gesture yet.
Safari :yuck
Man, I remember the first time I got broadband. I got 50 kb/s to dl a Naruto episode in 2003 - that was ten years ago.
Now I get 2-4 mb/s on Steam and don't bat an eye.
The little thangs.
Opera is probably your best bet. FF is a memory hog too. IE is obviously a non-starter.Opera isnt an alternate to Chrome anymore, it pretty much is Chrome.
Browser speed is very important to me because my computer is a giant pile of shit. I think for add-ons I only use Adblock.
Cool. If you've got a slower computer, I'd definitely suggest not using chrome because it creates multiple versions of itself, which uses up a bit more ram.
The reality is there have been a very small number of attacks based on this particular vulnerability and concerns were, frankly, overblown. Unfortunately this is a sign of the times
Microsoft should just accept the L on IE at this point and put the money into making their own chromium browser or rebranding and reskinning the thing (IE) to be so far away from IE that people think its new. IE has very negative brand baggage
Microsoft should just accept the L on IE at this point and put the money into making their own chromium browser or rebranding and reskinning the thing (IE) to be so far away from IE that people think its new. IE has very negative brand baggage
Well, to be fair, that stupid blue E and the IE name pretty much ARE the internet for old people and the tech-illiterate. Just gotta wait for them to die out I guess.
giving up on ie would basically mean giving up on Windows - a very high % of people's time on pcs is spent in a web browser, so if the browser they're using doesn't bother to support a new windows feature (which for third-party browsers is frequently the case), it may as well not exist. For a recent example look at high-dpi support - chrome on windows sux at this, ie has good support, but I see reviews of high-dpi windows laptops cite chrome as exhibit a that "windows has poor high-dpi support" ???
Note if third-party browsers implement better support for windows features to compete with ie, that's actually good for MS - they make their money off of windows, they don't make any money from ie directly. We saw this with ie9's support for hardware acceleration for canvas and svg and such - the third-party browsers put a lot of effort into catching up, and at least for a while graphics performance across all the browsers was better on Windows than other os (I'm not sure if this is still the case)
Even if MS made a new browser and scrapped IE, I'm sure no one would use it. Much like with Bing, Windows Phone, Surface;etc MS has shown tremendous lack of ability to sell tech to the masses. I think MS' name is tainted at this point unless it has Windows, Office, or Xbox name on it and two of those things (Windows, Xbox) have had terrible press recently.
touch is the future. you can't stop it.
Even if MS made a new browser and scrapped IE, I'm sure no one would use it. Much like with Bing, Windows Phone, Surface;etc MS has shown tremendous lack of ability to sell tech to the masses. I think MS' name is tainted at this point unless it has Windows, Office, or Xbox name on it and two of those things (Windows, Xbox) have had terrible press recently.
And what about the just-rolls-off-the-tongue naming sensibility of "Windows for Internet of Things (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/internet-of-things.aspx)"?
the core is solid. it's just the apps problem.
i will drop my ms faggotry the sec they drop windows phone.
you really think they won't be back? don't be naïve, andy.
8.1 made it more customizable.
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you can still turn it to basic wp7 tiles.
@andy, yeah, I know google is ads scum. No need to remind us.
Windows 8.1 is the best tablet OS. Android game devs seem to agree, according to all dem Steam ports :jawalrus
it's actually kind of funny watching the mindset of the indie guys. first ios/android was the best, but then competition stiffened and the average game started doing worse, so they blamed overcrowding and made for the steam hills. now i'm starting to see grumbling that steam is too overcrowded, and apparently PSN is the new hotness.
so who knows, maybe windows phones are the next step!
I knew Andrex would take that shit seriously enough to respond :teehee
it's actually kind of funny watching the mindset of the indie guys. first ios/android was the best, but then competition stiffened and the average game started doing worse, so they blamed overcrowding and made for the steam hills. now i'm starting to see grumbling that steam is too overcrowded, and apparently PSN is the new hotness.
so who knows, maybe windows phones are the next step!
giving up on ie would basically mean giving up on WindowsNo this isnt even close to being true. You can bundle any buttfuck browser into windows and people will use it due to it being the default on the most popular os.
Am I the only one who uses Opera? It's actually really good. It's like Chrome, without the weird dumb shit.
What weird dumb shit do you mean?
Like not having a fucking + icon on the NEW TAB button. That's when I had enough of Google's shenanigans.
giving up on ie would basically mean giving up on WindowsNo this isnt even close to being true. You can bundle any buttfuck browser into windows and people will use it due to it being the default on the most popular os.
giving up on ie would basically mean giving up on WindowsNo this isnt even close to being true. You can bundle any buttfuck browser into windows and people will use it due to it being the default on the most popular os.
No one cares, thats not why people use IE, people use IE simply because it is bundled with the OSgiving up on ie would basically mean giving up on WindowsNo this isnt even close to being true. You can bundle any buttfuck browser into windows and people will use it due to it being the default on the most popular os.
And how well would it support Windows features?
I'm not really sure what the difference between it being IE and not being IE is supposed to be.IE right now is a decent browser, it's not awful as it was from IE6 - IE9, people however still associate the name IE with "piece of shit". So by changing the branding, I suspect people will at least try it and then be surprised that [insert new name here] browser from microsoft is in fact not shit. The first thing everyone I know does when loading a new windows OS is install Waterfox/Firefox/K-Meleon/Chrome/Pale Moon whatever floats their boat, but no one I have met in real life actively sits there and goes "maybe i should try IE".
Fine, but that's just a marketing decisionSad to say that shit actually matters. It's the devil's work.
Fine, but that's just a marketing decision
Yep.
IE needs to be rebranded immediately.
Yep.
IE needs to be rebranded immediately.
social explore crush saga.
the browser is archaic. once restful apis hit critical mass i pray to god we never have to endure 2014's gofer again