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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: benjipwns on September 10, 2014, 07:52:06 PM

Title: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: benjipwns on September 10, 2014, 07:52:06 PM
http://www.onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2014/09/10/no-atheist-should-be-permitted-to-serve-in-the-us-military
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The United States Air Force has refused to allow a sergeant to re-enlist because he will not say "so help me God."

The Air Force is doing exactly the right thing here. There is no place in the United States military for those who do not believe in the Creator who is the source of every single one of our fundamental human and civil rights.

Serving in the military is a privilege, not a constitutional right. And it should be reserved for those who have America's values engraved on their hearts.

Naturally, the American Humanist Association, which has never seen a constitutional liberty it respects, intends to challenge this decision.

This case should be thrown out of court. The Constitution nowhere gives the federal judiciary any authority to set military policy. That's reserved for Congress and Congress alone.

(The "religious test" referred to in Article VI of the Constitution is a reference to a detailed or specific Christian statement of faith, and refers to elective or appointive office and not to military service. States, under the Constitution written by the Founders, can require any kind of religious test they want, and Article VI was designed to protect that power and reserve it for the States.)

Why is all this important? Because our military exists to uphold and defend our Constitution, and the Constitution in turn identifies the "unalienable rights" the Declaration refers to that our government is obligated to protect.

These rights do not come from government, they do not come from the commander-in-chief, and they most certainly do not come from some activist judge. They come from God himself. We are not evolved, as this wannabe-enlistee believes, but we are "created," and "endowed by (our) Creator with certain unalienable rights."

This is an absolutely foundational, non-negotiable, bed-rock American principle: there is a Creator - with a capital "C" (you could look it up) - and he and he alone is the source of the very rights the military exists to protect and defend.

An individual who does not understand and believe this has no right to serve in the U.S. military. Military service should rightly be reserved for those who believe in and are willing to die for what America stands for - and what America stands for is a belief in God as the source of our rights.

A man who doesn't believe in the Creator the Founders trusted certainly can live in America without being troubled for being a fool. But he most certainly should not wear the uniform.

And Congress agrees. It is actually a matter of statutory law that every enlistee and every officer must take an oath that ends with “So help me God.” U.S. Code, Title 10, Section 502 reads as follows (emphasis mine throughout):

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(a) Enlistment Oath.—Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:

“I, XXXXXXXXXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

The other branches of the U.S. military allow enlistees to opt out on this oath, but let’s be clear: they are breaking the law when they do so.

Military service should be reserved for genuine Americans - and genuine Americans, like the Founders, believe in God.
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: Kara on September 10, 2014, 07:56:46 PM
America stands for freedom
but if you think you're free
try serving in the Air Force
without swearing by a deity
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: Boogie on September 10, 2014, 08:03:36 PM
But there are no atheists in foxholes, therefore anyone who joins the military will believe in God, eventually.  ???
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: Kara on September 10, 2014, 08:05:40 PM
Srsly doe it's p. funny that people tried to undermine the divine right of kings by making each and every person have their very own divine right to do stupid shit*.

Except women and minorities.
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: kingkitty on September 10, 2014, 08:07:35 PM
I wouldn't share my foxhole with an atheist.

edit: this joke was already sort of mentioned, so just fuck it
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: Steve Contra on September 10, 2014, 08:09:49 PM
I thought this was going to be about Mupepe-Americans.  Or maybe Mandark-Americans.
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: Trent Dole on September 10, 2014, 08:10:53 PM
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Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 10, 2014, 08:54:10 PM
So why aren't they making him say "so help me Creator"? :trollbron
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2014, 09:05:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFdO2f2WIeQ

#NeverForget
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 10, 2014, 09:34:49 PM
Reddit said that 1) this is an issues about him crossing out part of the contract, thus voiding it and 2) being used by the Airforce as an example to force congress to change the pledge part to get rid of the god part.  Note that I only read the top comment then got bored and closed the tab and that I didn't even read the news link, because that's how people roll on reddit. 
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: Himu on September 10, 2014, 09:36:15 PM
Reddit also villianized mike brown. Fuck reddit.
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: Yeti on September 10, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
But there are no atheists in foxholes, therefore anyone who joins the military will believe in God, eventually.  ???

Actually, there would only be atheists in foxholes. True believers would be out of the foxholes, secure in their faith that God will either protect them, or if they die it is his will and they will go on to some sort of paradisiacal afterlife. :smug
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 11, 2014, 03:39:07 AM
We can go back and forth on the ideological debate but it boils down to a tactical problem. Soldiers in constant danger of being struck down by lightning, and unable to call down lightning strikes on our enemies are a liability plain and simple.
Title: Re: Should only genuine Americans be allowed to serve in the military?
Post by: Momo on September 11, 2014, 04:48:25 AM
I'd join the US military if you guys arrange me citizenship in Norway. Good deal.