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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Squiddy on September 18, 2014, 07:33:39 AM

Title: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Squiddy on September 18, 2014, 07:33:39 AM
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Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Rufus on September 18, 2014, 08:01:32 AM
Yeah. We already got a bunch of handwringing and crocodile tears from Cameron out of it. Watch Scotland become a scandinavian style socialist utopia within a couple decades. :uguu
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: T-Short on September 18, 2014, 08:10:24 AM
Alastair Darlings Lips: Better Together
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 18, 2014, 08:26:49 AM
Best case scenario:

-Scotland leaves UK
-UK (England really, all thats left) leaves EU
-Banks leave the city and go to Dublin/Glasgow/Edinburgh

 :rejoice
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: headwalk on September 18, 2014, 09:24:12 AM
(http://i3.minus.com/ibwCd4fTD8mqS4.jpg)

you cunts wanna start something?
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 18, 2014, 09:46:04 AM
Why would you ever want to be part of a kingdom that conquered you?

You should know better Esch.

There is no point for them to be IN the UK longterm now that we have the EU.

They got oil, they speak English. They should be fine.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 18, 2014, 09:47:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORifieiZiP4
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 18, 2014, 09:53:55 AM
Cameron saying that assassination would be a welcome release, lmao
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 18, 2014, 09:59:28 AM
Sounds like you've been listening to the BBC Esch.

Petro euro's not good
EU falling apart
Only Elizabeths teet can save Scotland
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: headwalk on September 18, 2014, 10:00:59 AM
Why would you ever want to be part of a kingdom that conquered you?

conquer? britain was a voluntary bail out for scotland after they shit the bed and went bankrupt trying their own colonial pants on.

as for kingdom - they still want to keep the queen. and the pound.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 18, 2014, 10:08:26 AM
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140508070530/polandball/images/c/c0/Britain_leaves_the_EU_while_Scotland_leaves_the_UK.jpg)
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: headwalk on September 18, 2014, 10:12:09 AM
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140508070530/polandball/images/c/c0/Britain_leaves_the_EU_while_Scotland_leaves_the_UK.jpg)

yeah, i agree. the sort of people in england who are all for leaving the EU are the same sort of people in scotland who want to leave the UK. the difference being UKIP voters are seen as the deluded little englanders they are while the scots are seen as a proud and noble warrior poet race.

save nationalism for football matches.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Kara on September 18, 2014, 10:27:34 AM
National self-determination. :lawd
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: T-Short on September 18, 2014, 10:35:02 AM
Scots self-aggrandizing :lol you engaged in plenty of exploitation yourself, pls


If this does pass, can't wait to see all the catalonians and basques speak up again

:dead

yeah, or those fucking Kurds
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: T-Short on September 18, 2014, 10:41:07 AM
 :teehee
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Kara on September 18, 2014, 10:41:36 AM
ETA's most recent ceasefire (keep your word brehs) isn't even 5 years old. :beli

e: Though this one I think will hold since abertzale parties aren't being banned quite so liberally by the Spanish government as they were before.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 18, 2014, 10:44:14 AM
When all is said and done, the isles are still my fav part of the world <3
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on September 18, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
If this does pass, can't wait to see all the basques speak up again

:dead
...and no one understand them :smug

spoiler (click to show/hide)
except for Kara
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Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Kara on September 18, 2014, 10:55:27 AM
Txapeldun is the Basque word for champion but it really means "one who has a beret" and in Basque they call the UEFA Champions League the Txapeldunen Liga. :dead
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Dickie Dee on September 18, 2014, 11:10:40 AM
Nope, I don't have faith in petroeconomies for the long term future. Scotland has some other strong sectors but...

The EU will fall apart. It was a stupid idea from the beginning.

As for the last bit, I have no comment on English or Scottish invective. I simply think it's best for the UK to remain united, all parties included. Nationalism is nice and all but it'll continue to matter less and less with an increasingly globalized culture, imho.

I'm mostly anti-succession only because I'm generally anti-Nationalism, but one of the issues the Yes side raises is that Scotland isn't using it's petro-resources effectively. They don't have a sovereign fund like Norway, nor are focusing on reinvesting their petro money in alternative resources and industries.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: sarslip on September 18, 2014, 11:35:05 AM
#teamno

dem oil reserves are low brehs,
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 18, 2014, 01:13:58 PM
#teamno

dem oil reserves are low brehs,

British controlled or friendly media
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 18, 2014, 01:19:48 PM
As an American I automatically support any movement for freedom. Especially from a trash country with a monarchy
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Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Rufus on September 18, 2014, 01:35:36 PM
But they want to remain subjects of her majesty. :heh
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 18, 2014, 01:45:09 PM
The No camp is trying to scare folks, their lowest estimate is 15 billion barrels.

A barrel is around a 100 bucks.

There are less then 5 million people in Scotland.

Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Squiddy on September 18, 2014, 01:58:05 PM
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Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: sarslip on September 18, 2014, 02:17:06 PM

A barrel is around a 100 bucks.


scotlands not getting 15 billion times 100.

the oil company gets 100 per barrel.  minus overhead of course.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 18, 2014, 02:21:28 PM
Smh
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Steve Contra on September 18, 2014, 02:41:38 PM
Isn't this some stupid half hearted independence where the Bank of England still gets to spank them like the ECB does to the southern states?  Sounds great  :shaq2
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 18, 2014, 02:50:32 PM
Yeah, Go Scotland Referendum - Abu Ghraib
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: CatsCatsCats on September 18, 2014, 02:52:54 PM
Having very little knowledge about it, I hope they vote Yes because Russel Brand said so.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Kara on September 18, 2014, 02:54:28 PM
that's the most bizarre part of this whole thing :lol

The Irish Free State had the UK's monarch as its head of state.

Given the complications of divorce, it doesn't seem imprudent to maintain the same head of state until you can fully republicanize.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: sarslip on September 18, 2014, 02:55:48 PM
http://www.vox.com/2014/9/18/6349847/effect-of-independence-scotch-whisky-whiskey-happen

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Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Dickie Dee on September 18, 2014, 03:10:40 PM
that's the most bizarre part of this whole thing :lol

The Irish Free State had the UK's monarch as its head of state.

Given the complications of divorce, it doesn't seem imprudent to maintain the same head of state until you can fully republicanize.

They're probably just content with the parliamentary system as it stands with PM as head of gov't and Monarch as head of state - saves the fuss of trying to figure out what a Presidential role would be and what it would even look like. I think Canadians and Australians still keep it like that more out of complacency than any sort of deep devotion to the crown.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Kara on September 18, 2014, 05:04:34 PM
Not to demean Canada and Oz, but they are recent creations (I think both the Canada and Australia acts were signed in the 80s) and without the distinct institutions of Scotland that predate and were maintained subsequent to union.

Is there any reason why there were no exit polls on this thing?
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: naff on September 18, 2014, 07:35:03 PM
Sounds like you've been listening to the BBC Esch.

Petro euro's not good
EU falling apart
Only Elizabeths teet can save Scotland

i kinda agree with esch, but i also say let the cross dressing caber tossers join the carrot top coal crackers n go solo. see how they fare
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 18, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
But they want to remain subjects of her majesty. :heh

what?

Isn't this some stupid half hearted independence where the Bank of England still gets to spank them like the ECB does to the southern states?  Sounds great  :shaq2

WHAT?
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Kara on September 18, 2014, 07:49:03 PM
The RBS of owned by the UK atm, that's another bit of a complication.

Sounds like No won, imo. Only 54% in Glasgow voted yes (allegedly).

No Konex.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Steve Contra on September 18, 2014, 08:40:26 PM
But they want to remain subjects of her majesty. :heh

what?

Isn't this some stupid half hearted independence where the Bank of England still gets to spank them like the ECB does to the southern states?  Sounds great  :shaq2

WHAT?
Definitely the biggest criticism of the Yes campaign was the fact that they are really excited about the prospect of independence, but less so about the nuts and bolts, which are monstrously complex (currency, borders, eu status, trade treaties).  I fully expect the next time this rolls around (it looks to be no right now) they will choose a better mix of fiery nationalists and sober technocrats and be on their way.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Boogie on September 18, 2014, 08:51:36 PM
Not to demean Canada and Oz, but they are recent creations (I think both the Canada and Australia acts were signed in the 80s)

Well, yes and no.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_North_America_Acts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Act,_1982


Even the 1982 Act didn't end our Constitutional hand-wringing.  See:  Meech Lake  Accords, Charlottetown Accords, any time any federal leader talks about Senate Reform, every Quebec election, etc.  etc.   etc.....
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Kara on September 18, 2014, 08:58:37 PM
CANADA PLS MOVE OUT OF MOM AND DAD'S HOUSE IT'S EMBARRASSING :stahp
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2014, 09:25:04 PM
I heard that the Free Trade Agreement signed by Ronald Reagan and Brian Mulroney has a secret clause providing for annexation and de facto making Canada the 51st state.

Source: Ed Broadbent and John Turner
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2014, 09:28:05 PM
(http://puu.sh/bELTy/5317036902.jpg)
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Dickie Dee on September 18, 2014, 09:58:14 PM
I heard that the Free Trade Agreement signed by Ronald Reagan and Brian Mulroney has a secret clause providing for annexation and de facto making Canada the 51st state.

Source: Ed Broadbent and John Turner

Benji with the Canadian-content deep cut :leon
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 18, 2014, 10:17:45 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk/

counts coming in


I'm totally against this because 'Great Britain' might be the best national name and I am an imperialist. 
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 18, 2014, 10:58:30 PM
thats close right now.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2014, 11:09:20 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

I like these kinds of charts, clicking on it and watching it reorder everything smoothly with animations. Part of my brain knows it's an inefficient data display method and the rest of it is going "oooooooooooooo click more random things ooooooooooo"

I think it was FOX's (or CNN's) that I broke in 2012 because I overloaded the allotted cache clicking on all the states and counties randomly and had to refresh the page.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 18, 2014, 11:13:01 PM
That's some pretty slick visualization. And I'd know about visualization.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 19, 2014, 12:20:35 AM
Its a nay
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on September 19, 2014, 12:31:23 AM
The dream is over.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: headwalk on September 19, 2014, 01:16:09 AM
(http://i3.minus.com/ibwCd4fTD8mqS4.jpg)

yeah, thought as much.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Atramental on September 19, 2014, 01:27:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29-LRuuqFT0
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Kara on September 19, 2014, 01:34:17 AM
So basically the SNP is the Parti Quebecois. :teehee

I'm sure Labour is all :whew tonight.
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 19, 2014, 01:44:37 AM
They took their freedom.  :'(
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 19, 2014, 02:35:47 AM
Oh well!

Is there any reason why there were no exit polls on this thing?

I think thats illegal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29-LRuuqFT0

I've been at that spot
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: toku on September 19, 2014, 03:14:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cXgBQ48.jpg)
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: sarslip on September 19, 2014, 09:26:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/tuVlgAs.gif)
Title: Re: Scotland Referendum - Alba gu brąth!
Post by: Squiddy on September 19, 2014, 11:15:20 AM
RIP Freedom.

1776-2014