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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Eschaton on November 01, 2014, 06:13:16 PM

Title: #dunhamgate
Post by: Eschaton on November 01, 2014, 06:13:16 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/lena-dunham-rage-spiral-after-site-accuses-her-of-molestation-2014-11

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“Do we all have uteruses?” I asked my mother when I was seven.

“Yes,” she told me. “We’re born with them, and with all our eggs, but they start out very small. And they aren’t ready to make babies until we’re older.” I look at my sister, now a slim, tough one-year-old, and at her tiny belly. I imagined her eggs inside her, like the sack of spider eggs in Charlotte’s Webb, and her uterus, the size of a thimble.

“Does her vagina look like mine?”

“I guess so,” my mother said. “Just smaller.”

One day, as I sat in our driveway in Long Island playing with blocks and buckets, my curiosity got the best of me. Grace was sitting up, babbling and smiling, and I leaned down between her legs and carefully spread open her vagina. She didn’t resist and when I saw what was inside I shrieked.

My mother came running. “Mama, Mama! Grace has something in there!”

My mother didn’t bother asking why I had opened Grace’s vagina. This was within the spectrum of things I did. She just on her knees and looked for herself. It quickly became apparent that Grace had stuffed six or seven pebbles in there. My mother removed them patiently while Grace cackled, thrilled that her prank had been a success.


(http://i.imgur.com/LZ25ovw.gif)


OG right wing site article : http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/lena-dunham-describes-sexually-abusing-her-toddler-sister

Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 01, 2014, 06:16:10 PM
Mods pls
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Kara on November 01, 2014, 06:16:26 PM
Depression Spiral is going to be the next username I request.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Sausage on November 01, 2014, 06:21:16 PM
Good string of tweets on this. https://twitter.com/diannaeanderson/status/528669308201598976
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Yulwei on November 01, 2014, 06:23:13 PM
felt so fucking skeeved out while reading that shit ffs why is she acting like that is just something quirky she did
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Qsn7OdH.gif)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: brob on November 01, 2014, 06:27:21 PM
This combined with Dunham's writing on traveling in Asia has left me with the impression that Dunham is quite good at showing herself to be a piece of garbage all on her own.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 01, 2014, 06:28:18 PM
Somebody punch this bitch in the spleen
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 01, 2014, 06:30:48 PM
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My mother didn’t bother asking why I had opened Grace’s vagina. This was within the spectrum of things I did. She just on her knees and looked for herself. It quickly became apparent that Grace had stuffed six or seven pebbles in there. My mother removed them patiently while Grace cackled, thrilled that her prank had been a success.

Jesus Christ

I can't even make the "cacdemon" joke I was thinking of
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: helios on November 01, 2014, 06:31:21 PM
Rage spiral sounds like something that should have been in Gurren Lagann
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2014, 06:34:57 PM
Obviously autobiographies often reveal a host of crazy shit, but the tone is what separates this from say...Richard Wright talking about killing his cat and burning his house down. She not only seems to think this is some funny #girlpower joke, she also clearly has no respect for her sister's privacy. I eagerly await her response/defense/victim card playing.

And right before Thanksgiving too. That's gonna be awkward as fuck.
:brazilcry
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 01, 2014, 06:55:03 PM
i don't care about this
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Atramental on November 01, 2014, 07:02:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vemoNzQ.jpg)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Verdigris Murder on November 01, 2014, 07:14:21 PM
Vaginas and aesthetic comparative disorders.

In this essay I will compare mussels and vaginas. Because the fact of the matter is that one tastes better than the other, but the other is a more effective pleasure delivery system, both visually and penis.

Zephyr fate, won't reply to my pms. Wtf are you seriously throwing a peeve?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: toku on November 01, 2014, 07:15:09 PM
Top to bottom everything about this is just
(http://i5.minus.com/jRDU89YzDOP1p_e.jpg) x1000
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Yulwei on November 01, 2014, 07:26:29 PM
I think I'm gonna lay this one at the feet of the mom. Your kid is diddling your other kid's vagina and you don't see this as a problem, like a therapy/counselling problem immediately?

absolutely. It sounds like the mom never laid any boundaries whatsoever
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
http://gawker.com/lena-dunham-responds-to-right-wing-claim-of-sibling-se-1653637030?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

 :lol
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2014, 07:48:30 PM
"The E-Rape of Lena Dunham: How Conservative Media Sexually Insults Women"
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: benjipwns on November 01, 2014, 07:53:32 PM
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“Do we all have uteruses?” I asked my mother when I was seven.

“Yes,” she told me. “We’re born with them, and with all our eggs, but they start out very small. And they aren’t ready to make babies until we’re older.” I look at my sister, now a slim, tough one-year-old, and at her tiny belly. I imagined her eggs inside her, like the sack of spider eggs in Charlotte’s Webb, and her uterus, the size of a thimble.

“Does her vagina look like mine?”

“I guess so,” my mother said. “Just smaller.”

One day, as I sat in our driveway in Long Island playing with blocks and buckets, my curiosity got the best of me. Grace was sitting up, babbling and smiling, and I leaned down between her legs and carefully spread open her vagina. She didn’t resist and when I saw what was inside I shrieked.

My mother came running. “Mama, Mama! Grace has something in there!”

My mother didn’t bother asking why I had opened Grace’s vagina. This was within the spectrum of things I did. She just on her knees and looked for herself. It quickly became apparent that this was actually about ethics in gaming journalism.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mupepe on November 01, 2014, 08:02:06 PM
According to her when I pop a boner at J Laws nudies I am sexually assaulting her but if I'm checking out a siblings puss I am just quirky and curious. Cool.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Atramental on November 01, 2014, 08:05:53 PM
"Those who live in glass houses shouldn't go looking for stones in their sister's flange."

Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 01, 2014, 08:09:20 PM
will there be a character nicknamed pebbles in the next season of girls
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 01, 2014, 08:10:27 PM
will there be a character nicknamed pebbles in the next season of girls

fucks sake  :dead
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2014, 08:15:34 PM
I understand kids do crazy shit, show each other their private parts and a host of other shit we wouldn't condone. But usually there's some consent involved: I show you mine, you show me yours. She literally opened up her 1yo sister's vagina walls. And tells the story as if it's a gag, oblivious to the fact that her sister...probably doesn't want something like that discussed.

And if we go even further down the derp hole, how can you talk about "agency" while denying your sister any? Even if we excuse the diddling as kid shit, discussing it today without her approval violates her privacy/agency/etc etc right?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 01, 2014, 08:17:37 PM
pebbles huh. so that's what faye reagan was hiding in there :ohhh
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Tribal on November 01, 2014, 08:21:02 PM
I had to do a Google image search to see who this nutcase was. Tragically she's ugly as fuck. Her sister's a bowser too. Waste of fuckin time
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 01, 2014, 08:21:46 PM
 :drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2014, 08:28:58 PM
If only there was a way to throw in an uncircumsized dick and tipping waitresses, this story would become the Smash Bros of GAF fuckery.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Rufus on November 01, 2014, 08:33:29 PM
Yeah, I doubt the pebble thing was sexual, but that... :holeup
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 01, 2014, 08:35:37 PM
If only there was a way to throw in an uncircumsized dick and tipping waitresses, this story would become the Smash Bros of GAF fuckery.
OT would be a fucking graveyard.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2014, 08:37:54 PM
Thank god I'm cut or else someone could have put pebbles in my foreskin.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 01, 2014, 08:40:34 PM
Lena Dunham has always seem to be this extremely obnoxious person who tried to hide it under the guise of "oh I'm a quirky hipster girl". I'm sure'll just shield this under something about feminism, but I do hope this at least shuts her up for awhile.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2014, 08:45:26 PM
I look forward to a "The Death Of White Feminism" Slate article.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 01, 2014, 08:45:58 PM
Lena Dunham has always seem to be this extremely obnoxious person who tried to hide it under the guise of "oh I'm a quirky hipster girl". I'm sure'll just shield this under something about feminism, but I di hope this at least shuts her up for awhile.

Sounds familiar  (http://i5.minus.com/iR82YpDrmqLL0.png)
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I'm kidding I swear (http://i4.minus.com/iZHfKCZScPFZq.png)
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Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mupepe on November 01, 2014, 09:31:40 PM
Link to Asian travels please
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2014, 09:32:03 PM
http://thisrecording.com/today/2011/3/19/in-which-we-regularly-play-ping-pong-with-the-princess-masak.html

cliff notes please, I'm not reading that
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mupepe on November 01, 2014, 09:39:51 PM
Jesus Christ. I didn't have to get very far before I realized she is a moron. Who would think its wise to publish that shit?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2014, 09:40:34 PM
http://thisrecording.com/today/2011/3/19/in-which-we-regularly-play-ping-pong-with-the-princess-masak.html

cliff notes please, I'm not reading that
http://yourfaveisproblematic.tumblr.com/post/45822118430/lena-dunham

Scroll down, though there's plenty of wack cornball shit on there to make sure you'd never want to give anything she's involved with a try :neogaf

All that India shit talking/racism, I was thinking "man my nicca Esch musta have felt a type of way -"

then I saw

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“I’m not super thin, but I’m thin, for like, Detroit” which is almost definitely racist, and classist as a bare minimum.
(http://i.imgur.com/Az5gujV.gif)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: octopushover on November 01, 2014, 09:40:42 PM
an idiot abroad indeed
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2014, 09:45:16 PM
Racial humor is fine, every great comedian says shit we'd probably cringe at if it was said in serious tone...but everything she does seems so deadpan serious that it feels like an entitled white chick shit talking.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: octopushover on November 01, 2014, 09:53:13 PM
Part of it is that she's not funny at all.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: StealthFan on November 01, 2014, 09:55:48 PM
just a dumb cunt fat neckbeards out on a pedestal to seem tolerant.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: parallax on November 01, 2014, 10:09:55 PM
just a dumb cunt fat neckbeards out on a pedestal to seem tolerant.

they put this chick on a pedestal? is girls that good?

theres better women to idolize, even if only openly
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: benjipwns on November 01, 2014, 10:12:15 PM
Weren't her parents like high up elites in the NYC-based art world?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Positive Touch on November 01, 2014, 10:13:17 PM
getting real tired of dipfucks that use liberal language and ideologies to mask how fuckin garbage they are at existing
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on November 01, 2014, 10:14:55 PM
getting real tired of dipfucks that use liberal language and ideologies to mask how fuckin garbage they are at existing
#newwhite
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: toku on November 01, 2014, 10:14:59 PM
getting real tired of dipfucks that use liberal language and ideologies to mask how fuckin garbage they are at existing

This happens on every
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 01, 2014, 10:21:17 PM
Weren't her parents like high up elites in the NYC-based art world?
Yeah, thats why she was in Japan.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 01, 2014, 10:31:54 PM
Guys guys, it's ok. GAF told me this is just a right wing conspiracy and also she's just making it up.

But seriously, now I feel bad because she called everyone that looked at those naked pics a sex offender. And it turns out she'd actually know a thing or two about being a sex offender.

 :goty
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: benjipwns on November 01, 2014, 10:48:15 PM
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Dunham was raised in Brooklyn and spent her summers in a house in Salisbury, Connecticut, though her parents later purchased a weekend family home in Cornwall, Connecticut.[9]

Dunham attended Saint Ann's School in Brooklyn, where she met Tiny Furniture actress and Girls co-star Jemima Kirke.[10][11] She graduated in 2008 from Oberlin College, where she studied creative writing.[12]

Dunham worked part-time at the West Village boutique Geminola during her college years.[13]
#thestruggle

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Dunham was diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder as a child, and continues to take a low dose of an antidepressant to relieve her anxiety.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: kingkitty on November 01, 2014, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: businessinsider article
Truth Revolt, which is run by the conservative pundit Ben Shapiro and the David Horowitz Freedom Center, initially claimed the incident occurred when Dunham was seventeen, but later added a correction.

(http://i.imgur.com/lz4K5KS.jpg)

still, even when it happened as a 7 year old, you shouldn't tell people that you used to spread open your sister's vagina for fun. keep that information bottled up.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 01, 2014, 10:52:17 PM
Hahahahahaha holy shit the Asia story

does she have like zero self awareness? Is everyone in her life just some part of her larger story? What the fuck. Can she go to jail for some of the shit she's written?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: benjipwns on November 01, 2014, 11:13:52 PM
http://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2005/06/15/rescuing_a_generation/page/full
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I'm 21 years old, a columnist, an author, a graduate of UCLA, a Harvard law student -- and a virgin. And I'm proud of it.

 As I explain in my new book, "Porn Generation: How Social Liberalism Is Corrupting Our Future," in today's America, being a proud virgin is no easy task. Those with values are under attack in a culture that treasures "tolerance" above morality. It's no wonder that because of my outspoken advocacy of traditional morality in general and of virginity in particular, I've become a favorite target of Internet leftists, who often refer to me as "The Virgin Ben."

 The Internet is riddled with writing like this: "In [Ben's] case, it is helpful to remember that some people choose celibacy, while others have it thrust upon them. Poor Ben. He no more chose abstinence than Clarence Thomas chose to be black." "The Virgin Ben also apparently has never had a really great Saturday night ?" "The Virgin Ben, indeed. This guy's 'interview' so completely reeks of repression that I almost feel violated having read it. Like I stepped into someone else's wet dream. It's freakin' eerie, man." "You know I'm starting to feel sorry for this kid. I look into his future and I can see that not once is he ever going to get to have really good hot sweaty sex with Miss Scarlet in the parlor with a bottle of lube. That kind of sex may not approach godliness, but for a few brief moments and a lifetime of memories, it sure feels like it."

 Such heated, inarticulate and unreasoned hatred for moral standards should not be shocking. Social liberalism seeks to promote a "live and let live" society wherein all types of deviant behavior is tolerated and accepted. Those on the left have thrust their notion of a "civilized," amoral society upon all of us. The fact of the matter is that "live and let live" directly contradicts the notion of communal society; we all have to abide by certain rules to live together. An amoral society minimizes the rules under which we live together; any change in those rules is bound to affect all of us.

 And it has. By discarding traditional morality in favor of amoralism, we have catered to the lowest common denominator. Social liberals have taken control of our culture through music, film, television and other mass media. R-rated films today often include soft-core pornography; television shows like "Friends" promote a fun-filled, promiscuous lifestyle with no consequences; rap music is misogynistic, glorifying its own degradation; pop music holds aloft cultural wrecking balls like Madonna as empowered feminist heroes. Advertisers take advantage of the "sex sells" phenomenon to push our culture to new lows, while teen magazines for young girls push boy-craziness and dispense dating and sex advice.

 They have used sex education as a means of indoctrinating children into a cult of moral relativism and hedonism. Following in the footsteps of Alfred Kinsey and his trumped-up research, the sex education movement has viewed its goal as the promotion of an acceptant and inevitable attitude about teen promiscuity. "[Our goal] is to be ready as educators and parents to help young people obtain sex satisfaction before marriage," wrote Planned Parenthood staffer Lena Levine in 1953. "By sanctioning sex before marriage, we will prevent fear and guilt." Fifty-two years later, Levine's dream has come true; we live in a society where condoms are dispensed to seventh-graders, where 12-year-olds are told about the glories of oral sex and where children are given the "opportunity to develop their values and increase self-esteem," to quote Debra W. Haffner, former president of the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States.

 The most extreme manifestation of the new culture is the mainstream acceptance of pornography. Pornography is no longer relegated to the dark corners of the newsstand or the skuzzy box in the video store; it's now in your inbox. It's on the radio, the television and the billboards. We live in an America that makes Paris Hilton a cultural icon and Jenna Jameson a New York Times best-selling author.

 We have successfully defined deviancy down; the deviant is now considered normal. Meanwhile, we have defined deviancy up; the normal is now considered deviant. And the effects upon my generation -- the porn generation -- have been disastrous. We are apathetic about morality, and that apathy translates into nihilism and narcissism -- and in the end, into generational self-destruction. Like it or not, the porn generation is the future of this country.

 But the future is not yet lost. Social conservatives must not retreat and cloister themselves; they must fight back against the continuing destruction of standards. Together, we can restore America's innocence.

http://books.google.com/books?id=58tB-2KjALgC&q=virgins
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Barraco Barner on November 01, 2014, 11:19:13 PM
How long until Apatow and gang circle the wagons around her?

Dude said a journalist's question about why she's naked so much on her show was "sexist, offensive and misogynistic"  :lol

Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 02, 2014, 12:17:32 AM
getting real tired of dipfucks that use liberal language and ideologies to mask how fuckin garbage they are at existing
#newwhite

 :ohhh

Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have something here.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Barry Egan on November 02, 2014, 12:28:26 AM
this is really weird, but she is pretty much modern day nobility.  By aristocratic standards this is pretty tame family behavior.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on November 02, 2014, 01:31:42 AM
That national review article on her book is an annihilation.
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Emotionally, she is morbidly obese
(http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/laff.gif)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 02, 2014, 01:49:31 AM
http://www.salon.com/2014/11/02/lena_dunhams_rage_spiral_she_fires_back_after_right_wing_accuses_her_of_sibling_sexual_abuse/

Not thinkpiecy enough for me.

That national review article on her book is an annihilation. I won't post it because it's got too many segments talking about how dunham is emblematic of this generation (fuck you, and fuck her) but they laid it on.
The typical attack the messager move, as well as rallying around the flag. It's like liberals who instinctively defend Obama on even the most blatant shit because they feel not doing so=agreeing with the right wing. Nuance is dead in 2014. Everything boils down to partisan wars where each side wants to advance inch by inch regardless of context, honesty, etc.

This isn't the first time Lena has violated her sister's personal life, and in fact her sister is on record with respect to this. Yet you won't see anyone pointing out the privacy/agency violation because Lena is on their side. Ends justify the means.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Pickles the Firecat on November 02, 2014, 01:04:36 AM
finally a buzzsaw to separate the unhinged, deranged radicals from the moderately less unhinged, moderately radicals
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: benjipwns on November 02, 2014, 01:05:51 AM
Wait, wait, are you saying that if I go look in the GAF threads about this I will find someone like say, APK, bringing up over and over that National Review once published some racist stuff and that Kevin D. Williamson is both a National Review writer AND right-wing therefore doubly racist? Because it's important to know that anything published in National Review is suspect because it's racist forever and anyone who writes for it is racist forever. And racists never have anything of value to say ever.

#PebbleGate #NotAllVaginas #NotYourGynecologist
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 02, 2014, 01:14:23 AM
wooooooof
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 02, 2014, 01:18:48 AM
this is really weird, but she is pretty much modern day nobility.  By aristocratic standards this is pretty tame family behavior.

how's she nobility?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 02, 2014, 01:31:30 AM
I really don't like the idea of attacking someone for something they did back when they were seven years old, no matter how bad that thing is. I mean, there's plenty enough things that she's said and done as an adult if you want to attack her. But what really bothers me about this whole thing is that she treats the episode like it's just some humorous childhood anecdote, rather than the sort of thing that you desperately hope to forget and leave buried forever.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: WanderingWind on November 02, 2014, 01:33:30 AM
Social conservatives couldn't have scripted this any better. And the "people" leaping to defend her are only fuel for their fire.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on November 02, 2014, 01:45:38 AM
And the art they drew of her was vulgar and ugly too :holeup
yeaaah, I had reservations while reading that. on the one hand, it's really satisfying seeing Dunham getting taken to task over her voice of a generation posturing; on the other, the overall tone of the piece is one that's already made up it's mind that it's ok to be infinitely vitriolic towards her character because...she's privileged and was raised surrounded by wall portraits of vaginas. I think the art reflects the intent pretty well.

something something constructive discourse something something ideological trench warfare


"Nuance is dead." -Phoenich Darknietzsche
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: benjipwns on November 02, 2014, 02:02:14 AM
the overall tone of the piece is one that's already made up it's mind that it's ok to be infinitely vitriolic towards her character because...she's privileged and was raised surrounded by wall portraits of vaginas.
Just wait until they write about Toy Soldier's daughter.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Tribal on November 02, 2014, 05:43:05 AM
I guarantee Opiate's cell walls just got covered in jizz
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 02, 2014, 08:36:50 AM
this is really weird, but she is pretty much modern day nobility.  By aristocratic standards this is pretty tame family behavior.

how's she nobility?

well, she was going through the motions of inbreeding and incest
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Freyj on November 02, 2014, 10:04:08 AM
Her interview on Stern was probably the worst I've heard in years, and that's saying something because Stern does a lot of boring interviews nowadays.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: StealthFan on November 02, 2014, 10:05:46 AM

I'll admit a single like from PeeDee is worth a dozen Esch likes, but still.

:dead
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 02, 2014, 10:08:15 AM
Post for the likes brehs
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 02, 2014, 10:17:07 AM
"Nuance is dead." -Phoenich Darknietzsche

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2rhtpci.png)

I can't fucking believe I only got a single like for this shit.

It was a spur of the moment shop. A simple yet brilliant idea, executed with style and panache. Do you know what panache means? Of course you don't, you simple peasants.

I'll admit a single like from PeeDee is worth a dozen Esch likes, but still.

Well now I might unlike it just to spite you  :comeon
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 02, 2014, 10:24:45 AM
derp wrong thread.

lets talk about pebbles instead.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: octopushover on November 02, 2014, 10:28:21 AM
i don't know what's worse, the unsupervised activity that led to the pebbles being put in the vagina or the horrendous landscaping of an aristocratic homestead that led to pebbles being available in the first place.  :-\
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Kara on November 02, 2014, 11:46:31 AM
A simple yet brilliant idea, executed with style and panache. Do you know what panache means? Of course you don't, you simple peasants.

:heh
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: StealthFan on November 02, 2014, 11:48:27 AM
"Nuance is dead." -Phoenich Darknietzsche

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2rhtpci.png)

I can't fucking believe I only got a single like for this shit.

It was a spur of the moment shop. A simple yet brilliant idea, executed with style and panache. Do you know what panache means? Of course you don't, you simple peasants.

I'll admit a single like from PeeDee is worth a dozen Esch likes, but still.

:yeshrug You're just an unlikeable person,  plain and simple. It's why Stealthfan is laughing at your jokes.
:umad

I was just laughing at that niccas brazen ass call-out. You know I want to taste that Indian ass.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 02, 2014, 11:54:36 AM
i don't know what's worse, the unsupervised activity that led to the pebbles being put in the vagina or the horrendous landscaping of an aristocratic homestead that led to pebbles being available in the first place.  :-\
(http://media.jrn.com/images/mjs-caltips20_sylvester.jpg)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 02, 2014, 12:24:20 PM
Lena Dunham is an unlikable person once people actually read or listen to what she has to say about anything.  She's basically a doughy womanchild who is passionately in love with herself so she can't imagine why she did anything wrong there, which is why she shared the story in the first place.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Atramental on November 03, 2014, 11:41:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/R0u6NRG.png)

One of my preachy liberal friends (or rather acquaintance) from college. :beli
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Kara on November 03, 2014, 11:54:12 AM
Anyone who seriously considers themselves the voice of a generation can fuck right off. Especially since her generation (which is also mine), was largely defined by low wage service jobs, and a real struggle. Here's this chick from inherited wealth thinking her stories represent us, like she's the J.D. Saliger of our age. Comparing Dunham to Salinger is like comparing Jason Richardson to Michael Jordan. The whole thing is a farce. Even though I've been amused by the show at times. it isn't even close to being "voice of a generation" worthy. Her show is a glorified Sex and the City.

I saw the inanest minds of my generation destroyed by confession,
recounting molesting naked,
dragging themselves through the ideological trenches at all hours looking
for an adulating fix,
effing hipsters burning for the bohemian heavenly
connection to the transgressive dynamo in the machinery of nihil
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 03, 2014, 11:59:42 AM
Cmon, Kara, that's not up to your quality.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 03, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
womanchild

I used that jokingly some months ago on another site and I'm glad to see it in use

Not to say that I created it but-


fuck, I need breakfast
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2014, 03:08:13 PM
She cancelled her book tour :heh

Gotta bunker down and wait for e-backup from Jezebell/ThinkProgress/HuffPo/etc.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 03, 2014, 03:08:45 PM
She cancelled her book tour :heh

Gotta bunker down and wait for e-backup from Jezebell/ThinkProgress/HuffPo/etc.

OMG what does Zoe Quinn think?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Positive Touch on November 03, 2014, 03:20:28 PM
She cancelled her book tour :heh

Gotta bunker down and wait for e-backup from Jezebell/ThinkProgress/HuffPo/etc.

damn. the fuckery from fan questions coulda been amazing : lol
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 03, 2014, 03:22:05 PM
the sister replied, and it is exactly what you'd expect

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/lena-dunham-responds-to-sex-abuse-claims
Quote
heteronormativity deems certain behaviours harmful, and others "normal"; the state and media are always invested in maintaining that

and
Quote
As a queer person: i'm committed to people narrating their own experiences, determining for themselves what has and has not been harmful

So what I take from this:

1) Because the patriarchy
2) I'm sorry apparently you gotta be gay to understand.

 :heh
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 03, 2014, 03:26:21 PM
she has a point, if this were a brother and a sister nobody would think twice of it! certainly not make any inbreeding jokes! no cir!
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 03, 2014, 03:27:48 PM
Don't worry, TPM is already carrying that water

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/twitter-reactionaries-shout-down-lena-dunham-defenders

People seem to be missing the forest for the trees- I don't really know anyone that's saying a 7 year old being weird about shit is the end of the world, but when it's someone that has an established pattern of being a narcissistic shitburger of epic proportions, and someone that two months ago was saying anyone who looked at leaked naked pics was taking part in sexual assault, publishing stories where you talk about violating the agency of your sister to explore your own sexuality is well, a little bit fucking hypocritical.

:hitler
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 03, 2014, 03:29:30 PM
also is it odd that i'm not surprised one would be a lesbian if one's prepubescent sexual history is with a woman? :hitler
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 03, 2014, 03:31:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5kCdcJY.jpg)

i never read the passage until now. :holeup
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2014, 03:33:28 PM
Quote
As a queer person: i'm committed to people narrating their own experiences, determining for themselves what has and has not been harmful

But...in this case you weren't given the opportunity to narrate your own experience. Your sister (who is presumably straight) put it in a book.
:what

Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 03, 2014, 03:34:35 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5kCdcJY.jpg)

 :goty
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 03, 2014, 03:37:06 PM
This is what happens when you don't beat your kids, white people

:ufup
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 03, 2014, 03:37:19 PM
This is what happens when you don't beat your kids, white people

:ufup

:dead
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Kara on November 03, 2014, 03:37:24 PM
Cmon, Kara, that's not up to your quality.

While I'm flattered that I have a quality standard you have been made well aware that I let everyone down in my life.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2014, 03:41:22 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1dLsUPIcAAE4gi.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qIRHMEM.png)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Brehvolution on November 03, 2014, 03:43:35 PM
My brother and I used to beat the shit out of each other. Should I worry about assault charges now that I've said it?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 03, 2014, 03:45:02 PM
sexualize your younger sister brehs
My brother and I used to beat the shit out of each other. Should I worry about assault charges now that I've said it?
were you putting pebbles in his anus?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Brehvolution on November 03, 2014, 03:45:44 PM
No, but a crime is a crime no matter what the age.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 03, 2014, 03:45:58 PM
My brother and I used to beat the shit out of each other. Should I worry about assault charges now that I've said it?
Depends. Are you liberal feminist icon?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Brehvolution on November 03, 2014, 03:48:20 PM
No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 03, 2014, 03:55:57 PM
Man's not wrong.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 03, 2014, 03:57:41 PM
Basically, I'm just of the opinion that Lena Dunham is so shallow you'd have a hard time drowning a hamster in her if she were a body of water.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 03, 2014, 04:00:37 PM
Lena Dunham is what happens when you take someone and elevate them and tell them they're incredible when they've done very little work and have very little talent.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2014, 04:07:04 PM
Lena Dunham is what happens when you take someone and elevate them and tell them they're incredible when they've done very little work and have very little talent.

Like Sandra Fluke.
:trollbron

but seriously tho, some veteran feminists were mad that she got a spotlight
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 03, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
I'm all for sibling on sibling diddling, but she took it too far
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2014, 04:11:37 PM
I'm all for sibling on sibling diddling, but she took it too far

Do you have any childhood tales for us, BrandKnew?
 :uguu
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 03, 2014, 04:18:17 PM
my sisters made me play barbie :noah

I always had to use Ken and allow their barbie avatars to basically date rape ken on every fake date they went on :noah
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Atramental on November 03, 2014, 04:25:48 PM
Oh man, the girls that I knew growing up were fucking savages with their barbies.

I concur that a lot of the scenarios that they did with them were rapey as fuck. Poor Ken.  :tocry
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Kara on November 03, 2014, 04:51:30 PM
My brother and I used to beat the shit out of each other. Should I worry about assault charges now that I've said it?

Are you remorseless about this? Could one draw a line from this behavior to things in adulthood that are questionable? Why am I asking you inquisitorial questions when all you were doing was setting up a sensible chuckle pop culture reference with a disingenuous question?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Brehvolution on November 03, 2014, 04:57:28 PM
Remorseless? IDK

The conditioning of a thousand fights teaches you that predication is greater than strength or speed.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: toku on November 03, 2014, 04:57:54 PM
my sisters made me play barbie :noah

I always had to use Ken and allow their barbie avatars to basically date rape ken on every fake date they went on :noah

My sister didn't make me play barbie, but she did make me learn to sew so I could help her make barbie clothes. To this day I'm still the best needle threader in my family.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Kara on November 03, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Remorseless? IDK

The conditioning of a thousand fights teaches you that predication is greater than strength or speed.

Maybe it's just because of the last one, but I regret pretty much every fight I've been in, even the early childhood ones. :yeshrug

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Jewish guilt. :aah
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Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Trent Dole on November 03, 2014, 06:48:02 PM
I'd never heard of her until this thread. :teehee
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Atramental on November 03, 2014, 06:59:54 PM
I wasn't really aware of her before The Fappening. :teehee

I mean, I kinda knew about the show Girls but not really.  :yeshrug
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 03, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
I used to take my sister's Barbies and put them in the Barbie Corvette and then crash them into the wall like in those crash test videos.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 03, 2014, 10:39:28 PM
Lena Dunham is what happens when you take someone and elevate them and tell them they're incredible when they've done very little work and have very little talent.

She has some talent. I mean, her show isn't great, but it isn't bad, and it's often quite funny. She might not be an elite, Bill Federman-esque talent, but she's better than a lot of people who get paid to write.
She needs a lot of direction And somehow has landed an incredible support network.  But her talent is middling at best and certainly nowhere near the voice of a generation status
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2014, 10:52:03 PM
because our generation is best summed up by elitist NY scions. :heh
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: bluemax on November 03, 2014, 10:54:37 PM
Remorseless? IDK

The conditioning of a thousand fights teaches you that predication is greater than strength or speed.

CaptainAmericaIknowthatreference.gif

(http://www.wwtdd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Lena-Dunham-Being-Hand-Fed-On-The-Set-Of-Girls-In-New-York-05-760x1140.jpg)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 04, 2014, 12:22:10 AM
We now know how Dunham gets her rocks off.

It seems unlikely that a one-year-old would stuff pebbles into her own vagina. . . . Regardless, people can't really condemn an adult for her actions as a a seven-year-old; they can condemn her actions as a 13-year-old and they can condemn her flippant attitude about it all as an adult.

Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 04, 2014, 12:48:43 AM
Jesus Christ.  The actual passage horrified me.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 04, 2014, 12:58:00 AM
Lena Dunham and the street harassment lady have put feminism back so, so much. On the real, we need to get crazy self absorbed white girls to shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 04, 2014, 02:42:27 AM
I don't get how this is somehow a racial issue  ??? ??? ???

ok I do but it's dumb
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: benjipwns on November 04, 2014, 03:39:15 AM
http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/lena-dunham-threatens-sue-truth-revolt-quoting-her
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On Saturday, HBO’s Lena Dunham sent a “cease and desist” letter to TruthRevolt demanding that we remove an article we posted last Wednesday on sections of her book, Not That Kind of Girl. The letter threatened legal action if we did not both remove that article, as well as print a note, the suggested language of which read as follows:

Quote
We recently published a story stating that Ms. Dunham engaged in sexual conduct with her sister.  The story was false, and we deeply regret having printed it.  We apologize to Ms. Dunham, her sister, and their parents, for this false story.

We refuse. We refuse to withdraw our story or apologize for running it, because quoting a woman’s book does not constitute a “false” story, even if she is a prominent actress and left-wing activist. Lena Dunham may not like our interpretation of her book, but unfortunately for her and her attorneys, she wrote that book – and the First Amendment covers a good deal of material she may not like.

In particular, the letter from Ms. Dunham’s lawyers labeled as “false and defamatory” our claims that she “experiment[ed] sexually with her younger sister Grace,” “experimented with her six-year younger sister’s vagina,” and “use[d] her little sister at times essentially as a sexual outlet.” In her desire to curb First Amendment freedoms, Dunham’s attorneys threatened legal action seeking “millions of dollars; punitive damages which can be a multiple of up to ten times actual damages; and injunctive relief.”

We assume that both Ms. Dunham and her attorneys are capable of reading Ms. Dunham’s book, which contains the following direct excerpts:
Quote
If Ms. Dunham says that our quotations from her book were “false,” or that our interpretation of those events was libelous under the law, then we look forward to asking her, in her deposition, about why they appeared in her book. We also look forward to asking her why she believes it is now appropriate for a 28-year-old woman to make light of opening her baby sister’s vagina, paying her with candies for prolonged kisses on the lips in the manner of a “sexual predator,” or masturbating in bed next to her prepubescent sister.

If Ms. Dunham says that our quotations from her book were “false,” then she should explain whether her statements in which she accused a young college Republican of rape were also false. We look forward to asking her about that in her deposition as well, given that she has reportedly refused to cooperate with Oberlin police to track down the alleged perpetrator, which leaves other young women at risk if her accusations are true. 

It is worth noting that Truth Revolt was far from the only outlet to point out these troubling sections in Ms. Dunham’s book. National Review’s Kevin Williamson wrote of “Lena Dunham’s sexual abuse, specifically, of her younger sister, Grace” – the article that first alerted us to Ms. Dunham’s disturbing writings. The Daily Caller’s Derek Hunter has written of Ms. Dunham’s “gleeful sexual abuse of her infant sister, Grace.”

After Truth Revolt’s report on Ms. Dunham’s book, Ms. Dunham took to Twitter with what she termed a “rage spiral,” terming accusations that “I molested my little sister isn’t just LOL – it’s really fucking upsetting and disgusting.” She added, “And by the way, if you were a little kid and never looked at another little kid’s vagina, well, congrats to you.” No, congrats to you, Ms. Dunham – you’ve managed to lead a life so free of criticism that you find it “upsetting and disgusting” when some folks are offended that you “carefully spread open” your baby sister’s vagina, or paid her to kiss you on the mouth in the manner of a “sexual predator,” or masturbated in bed next to her as a teenager. In the real world, folks find such behavior upsetting and disgusting, not reporting on such behavior.

Bullies like Ms. Dunham may believe that firing off legal threats against those who exercise First Amendment rights is perfectly legitimate. But for a woman who proclaims to be an advocate for freedom of speech to attempt to shut down such speech based on her own apparent embarrassment at her own disclosures in her own book demonstrates the totalitarianism of those on the left – and those in the legal and media establishment who enable them.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Brehvolution on November 04, 2014, 08:18:37 AM
Quote
Bullies like Ms. Dunham may believe that firing off legal threats against those who exercise First Amendment rights is perfectly legitimate. But for a woman who proclaims to be an advocate for freedom of speech to attempt to shut down such speech based on her own apparent embarrassment at her own disclosures in her own book demonstrates the totalitarianism of those on the left – and those in the legal and media establishment who enable them.

Right wing bully victimization complex. :heh
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 04, 2014, 09:30:58 AM
goddamit why can't this just be about a stupid fucking girl who said stupid fucking things


why did it have to devolve into right v. left bullshit
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 04, 2014, 09:33:36 AM
why did it have to devolve into right v. left bullshit

"Devolve" would indicate that it wasn't this very thing right from the start.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: kingkitty on November 04, 2014, 09:35:48 AM
liberals are more likely to be fascist pedophiles tbh
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 04, 2014, 10:19:50 AM
why did it have to devolve into right v. left bullshit

"Devolve" would indicate that it wasn't this very thing right from the start.
The right wing illuminati!
 :gddr5
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 04, 2014, 10:49:07 AM
Boy, this thread about kiddie diddling and incest sure is popular!
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 04, 2014, 10:51:11 AM
Boy, this thread about kiddie diddling and incest sure is popular!

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/452/990/89f.gif)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Kara on November 04, 2014, 10:52:01 AM
Quote
Bullies like Ms. Dunham may believe that firing off legal threats against those who exercise First Amendment rights is perfectly legitimate. But for a woman who proclaims to be an advocate for freedom of speech to attempt to shut down such speech based on her own apparent embarrassment at her own disclosures in her own book demonstrates the totalitarianism of those on the left – and those in the legal and media establishment who enable them.

Right wing bully victimization complex. :heh

Unironic use of totalitarianism. :heh
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 04, 2014, 10:54:00 AM
I too like this emote  :heh
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 04, 2014, 10:57:23 AM
I like Lena Dunham. She's complicated.

Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 04, 2014, 11:51:11 AM
Quote
“I think he thinks he was being really deep by dating a chubby girl,” she writes of one of her many romantic disappointments. But the excess of self from which she suffers most genuinely is not corporal but emotional. Emotionally, she is morbidly obese, the layers of her bloated sense of self deepening like Philip Larkin’s coastal shelf since her birth, if not in fact before, considering the daft contributions of her family. It is an easy thing to mock, and it deserves mocking, but it also deserves understanding.
:dead

this NR article is vulgar brehs   :lol

the author is pretty much racist though. But I will give him a 30-day pass for this ether.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on November 04, 2014, 01:08:40 PM
:bow kams tha gawd :bow2
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 04, 2014, 01:11:57 PM
Wrath goin hard, she molest you too bro?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Steve Contra on November 04, 2014, 01:27:45 PM
I have mad respect for Lena Dunham for the jimmies she rustles on the regular :lawd
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 04, 2014, 01:28:58 PM
I have mad respect for Lena Dunham for the doritos she clearly smashes on the regular :lawd

fixed
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 04, 2014, 01:29:31 PM
I have mad respect for Lena Dunham for the jimmies she rustles on the regular :lawd

:gurl
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 04, 2014, 01:34:53 PM
I have mad respect for Lena Dunham for the jimmies she rustles on the regular :lawd

Is this an endorsement of molestation?
(http://i.imgur.com/nSjp41k.png)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 04, 2014, 01:35:53 PM
I have mad respect for Lena Dunham for the jimmies she rustles on the regular :lawd
Lena Dunham sure does rustle jimmies, especially when they belong to her sister.
edit: sort of beaten by a minute
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: CatsCatsCats on November 04, 2014, 01:52:37 PM
Edit: Post abandoned, too much nesting to get straight on my phone

But all them quotes seem to be a testament to the rustling

(not a molestation endorsement :kobeyuck )
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: chronovore on November 04, 2014, 02:19:13 PM
We now know how Dunham gets her rocks off.

It seems unlikely that a one-year-old would stuff pebbles into her own vagina. . . . Regardless, people can't really condemn an adult for her actions as a a seven-year-old; they can condemn her actions as a 13-year-old and they can condemn her flippant attitude about it all as an adult.

Yeah. Kids are one thing, but it's weird that she's unaware how weird it is to recount it. This is the kind of thing people normally put int their "We Shall Never Speak of This" category.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 04, 2014, 02:41:53 PM
i can only speak for myself but i just purchased a huge bag of pop rocks.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 04, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Jezebel put up an article.

http://jezebel.com/the-right-to-a-sexual-narrative-on-the-lena-dunham-abu-1654187731
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 04, 2014, 06:43:37 PM
Anybody else find it ironic that these CAC SJW's are trying to tell us to not tell these people how to live their life while at the same time telling us how to live our lives?

:goty
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Verdigris Murder on November 04, 2014, 06:44:17 PM
Lena Dunham and the street harassment lady have put feminism back so, so much. On the real, we need to get crazy self absorbed white girls to shut the fuck up.
But thirsty black men walking like a schroedingers rape-panther next to a white (not really properly white, but that's not the point) girl doesn't say anything about the rape-culture encouraged by rappers and Cosby. Because it's not about black rapers.

It's about not raping women. That's the one thing neogaf got right: rape is wrong.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 04, 2014, 07:37:20 PM
I have mad respect for Lena Dunham for the jimmies she rustles on the regular :lawd

Is this an endorsement of molestation?
(http://i.imgur.com/nSjp41k.png)

I was going to make a "neogaf mods brehs" post until I realized it wasnt Youngblood

damnit all! >:(
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Raban on November 04, 2014, 08:31:00 PM
Her show isn't bad, just has a few too many east coast heiress white girl cringes for me. And (http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjlol.png) worthy self aggrandizing mary sue moments.

(http://bygonebureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/girls_gif1.gif)


:comeon
pretty sure that line was ironic breh :dualities

Jezebel put up an article.

http://jezebel.com/the-right-to-a-sexual-narrative-on-the-lena-dunham-abu-1654187731
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"Older siblings often change the younger sibling's diaper, apply diaper cream," added Herbenick. "The point being: genital touching is not in and of itself sexual. As adults, we should know that. We bathe ourselves, we go to the bathroom, we itch ourselves, we touch our genitals for various reasons throughout the day. They really are just another body part. And unless someone is doing something sexual with them, they don't have to be considered sexual."

This brings up something that I think about frequently. To be an adult woman is to have your body be near-universally read as a sexual object when, on the inside, you often feel very different, like a Pokemon or a hungover bag of meat.
:lawd :rejoice
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On the newly-founded Those Kinds of Girls tumblr, all sorts of anonymous accounts are coming in about childhood memories that are—like Dunham's—uncomfortable, awkward, funny, and to all parties actually involved, non-abusive. I trust these readings. I always think we should trust what people, and particularly women, say about their life experience. If they say they were harmed, we should believe them; if they, like Grace Dunham, say they were not, what do we gain by pushing victimhood on them when they don't want it?
:bow
the article goes on to criticze the more questionable aspects of Lena's behavior about this controversy, but the quoted bits are my favorite.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 04, 2014, 08:47:02 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/XqN38U5.jpg)

"Basically, anything a sexual predator would do"

Keep stanning, Raban

:gurl
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Raban on November 04, 2014, 08:53:44 PM
I would use my own words to retort but that Jezebel article has me covered
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Still there's the question of language to consider. You could say that Dunham could have used some different words. At one point in this chapter, she describes her unrequited affection for her younger sister as manifesting in actions "a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl." But this figurative language, in poor taste given the context—and unremarkable in the context of the many other tone-deaf moments in the memoir—is not in itself telling, not at all. What's she really talking about here? I offer my friends candy; I invite them into my car. I handle nice takeout sandwiches gently, because I want them to be firm when I shove them in my mouth. Am I predatory? Towards sandwiches, absolutely. Am I using dumb language? Oh, for sure. Hinting at a consent problem? Hell motherfucking no.
Tone deaf and offensively immature narrative? sounds like my girl :heartbeat
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 04, 2014, 08:59:03 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/KGjg6tk.gif)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 04, 2014, 09:00:12 PM
"Lena Dunham has said some tone deaf, insensitive, stupid things, which is really part of her charm"

Will never understand how people like anything that stupid woman has done, tbh
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 04, 2014, 09:03:12 PM
Compare changing your younger siblings' diaper to prying open your younger siblings' vagina, brehs.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Raban on November 04, 2014, 09:16:20 PM
I never said it was part of her charm, but it's certainly what I've come to expect from her. I'll happily take your ridicule to stand on her side of this argument. It's always women being told what they are/aren't, how they were abused or weren't, or how they should or shouldn't feel. It's all the same shit. I'll let the "victim" speak for herself. (https://twitter.com/simongdunham/status/529317449221824512?s=09)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 04, 2014, 09:24:03 PM
I like how you put victim in quotes. That's classy.  :-*
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 04, 2014, 09:29:55 PM
\ It's always women being told what they are/aren't, how they were abused or weren't, or how they should or shouldn't feel. It's all the same shit. I'll let the "victim" speak for herself. (https://twitter.com/simongdunham/status/529317449221824512?s=09)

What. So are you saying that Lena Dunham wouldn't be seen as an abuser if she were a guy? It seems pretty clear to me: Lena Dunham sounds like a narcissist or psychopath from her own writing, yet many feminists are defending her, despite the morbid reality of what would happen if Lena were male. Using the argument that women are always being told what to do or how they should feel in this case seems quite petty given that there's clear sexism at work in regards to many of her defenders support her.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 04, 2014, 09:36:47 PM
Also, using the victims own words as proof that Lena Dunham isn't a crazed abuser is kinda...out there given, historically, many women vouch for their abusers.

Is this a "victim" too? She was punched out and dragged out of a hotel elevator like a dog but she's still willing to defend her husband. Defense does not make it right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJBkG_kyqxI

Yet you're making this a feminist argument? :what
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Raban on November 04, 2014, 09:39:43 PM
yep this is totally comparable to a domestic abuse case between two adults. FOH.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 04, 2014, 09:42:46 PM
The whole defense force of this reminds me of the vagina monologues where a 13 year old gets raped by a woman and then says "if it was rape, it was a good rape"

I feel like people defending this are like "if it was molestation, it was a good molestation."

 :what

Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 04, 2014, 09:42:52 PM
I've never made the argument that the vagina pebbles thing was sexual assault or whatever; I think my main point is that Lena Dunham is a shitty person, as evidenced by her "sexual predator" comments, the general tone of her writing, the Indian travel thing someone linked earlier, and the fact that Girls is a shitty show.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Huff on November 04, 2014, 09:44:13 PM
I guess it wouldn't be the internet without someone supporting a famous molester
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 04, 2014, 09:44:52 PM
yep this is totally comparable to a domestic abuse case between two adults. FOH.

(http://i.imgur.com/XqN38U5.jpg)

This is not what normal children do. Telling your own sister - with joy - that grandpa is dead just so that she can cuddle you? Even if it's not abuse, wouldn't you agree that putting faith in Dunham's words is a trial? I'm not going to say kids are cuddly wuddly creatures who don't do odd or bad things, and I certainly don't have any siblings to relay an experience, but that just doesn't sound like something a well adjusted child should be doing.

The whole defense force of this reminds me of the vagina monologues where a 13 year old gets raped by a woman and then says "if it was rape, it was a good rape"

I feel like people defending this are like "if it was molestation, it was a good molestation."

 :what

And it's pretty clear that most of it comes from the fact that Dunham is a woman. It comes off as a molly coddling perverse take on the "innocent woman" cliche. You know, women have such pure thoughts and could never do no harm crap. Which, of course, is its own form of sexism - both towards women and men.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 04, 2014, 09:48:29 PM
What is this about candles? :what
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 04, 2014, 09:55:09 PM
Oh, I read candles and the imagery was :kobeyuck
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Raban on November 04, 2014, 09:55:31 PM
yep this is totally comparable to a domestic abuse case between two adults. FOH.

(http://i.imgur.com/XqN38U5.jpg)

This is not what normal children do. Telling your own sister - with joy - that grandpa is dead just so that she can cuddle you? Even if it's not abuse, wouldn't you agree that putting faith in Dunham's words is a trial? I'm not going to say kids are cuddly wuddly creatures who don't do odd or bad things, and I certainly don't have any siblings to relay an experience, but that just doesn't sound like something a well adjusted child should be doing.

The whole defense force of this reminds me of the vagina monologues where a 13 year old gets raped by a woman and then says "if it was rape, it was a good rape"

I feel like people defending this are like "if it was molestation, it was a good molestation."

 :what

And it's pretty clear that most of it comes from the fact that Dunham is a woman. It comes off as a molly coddling perverse take on the "innocent woman" cliche. You know, women have such pure thoughts and could never do no harm crap.
the bolded explains a lot actually. sorry if my argument sounds like I'm perpetuating a cliche but it sounds like you're trying to take my argument and give it much broader implications than I meant to have. she was a kid, kids do weird shit to each other, especially siblings. I have both examples of genital exploration and legitimate abuse that occured between me and my older brother, and it apparently helps me draw the line between what activies are or aren't abuse between young siblings. Nothing she says sounds extraordinary to me, but her wording inarguably goes a long way to make it uncomfortable to read.
I've never made the argument that the vagina pebbles thing was sexual assault or whatever; I think my main point is that Lena Dunham is a shitty person, as evidenced by her "sexual predator" comments, the general tone of her writing, the Indian travel thing someone linked earlier, and the fact that Girls is a shitty show.
Yeah I don't argue your opinion of Lena. I even go back and forth on my feelings towards her and her work, but as for the rest of this thread; I said my piece and I'm out.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 04, 2014, 09:57:28 PM
Man, I must be alone in thinking that diddling your sibling isn't a common thing. Maybe all those animes are right after all?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Huff on November 04, 2014, 10:01:15 PM
Well what else do you do for fun with them
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 04, 2014, 10:12:06 PM
Man, I must be alone in thinking that diddling your sibling isn't a common thing. Maybe all those animes are right after all?

Yup.

Quote
Please Twins! is a story about three high-school students: Maiku Kamishiro, Karen Onodera, and Miina Miyafuji. The three were drawn together by a photograph of their childhood home which later makes all of them seek out the house in the picture. However, the picture shows only two children, a boy and a girl. The three conclude from this that only one of the girls, either Karen or Miina, can be related to Maiku. The other must be a nonrelative. The only other identifying feature of the pair in the picture is that the boy and the girl have eyes of the same unusual color, a feature that furthers the ambiguity as all three of them share the same eye color.

The main concern of the male lead, Maiku, is that, although he eventually comes to care for both of the girls, he does not know which of them is his sister. In addition, the two girls develop feelings for Maiku, forming a love triangle that cannot be resolved until the truth of their relationship is known. All three main characters are in the predicament of wanting to discover their past versus the risk of losing a romantic relationship.

The events of the story are set the year after Please Teacher! and characters from that series appear in supporting roles throughout Please Twins!.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Please_Twins!
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 04, 2014, 10:16:10 PM
Well what else do you do for fun with them
I'll need to practice my "Oniiiiichan!!"
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 04, 2014, 11:11:08 PM
i'm gonna need brandnew to weigh in on this discussion

with sexy details :phil
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Sausage on November 05, 2014, 01:42:24 AM
What's the Indian travel writing thing?

FYI, that country wears you down if you're a cac. It's the closest a white cishet male will ever get to the NYC street harassment video. If some of the thoughts that went through my head had been telepathically live-blogged to a twitter feed after I'd fought off my 100th scam attempt of the day, it wouldn't have looked so good. So I'm going to have to see the receipts before I condemn anyone for an India travel blog.
http://yourfaveisproblematic.tumblr.com/post/45822118430/lena-dunham
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on November 05, 2014, 02:51:10 AM
\ It's always women being told what they are/aren't, how they were abused or weren't, or how they should or shouldn't feel. It's all the same shit. I'll let the "victim" speak for herself. (https://twitter.com/simongdunham/status/529317449221824512?s=09)

What. So are you saying that Lena Dunham wouldn't be seen as an abuser if she were a guy? It seems pretty clear to me: Lena Dunham sounds like a narcissist or psychopath from her own writing, yet many feminists are defending her, despite the morbid reality of what would happen if Lena were male. Using the argument that women are always being told what to do or how they should feel in this case seems quite petty given that there's clear sexism at work in regards to many of her defenders support her.
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Qualifying 'victim' is p offensive to me personally, but labeling Lena Dunham as a 'psychopath' is really beyond the pale.  The way she couches/objectifies her own experience is pretty reprehensible, but she doesn't come off as someone who completely lacks moral objectivity so much as someone who has an insanely off-balance moral compass.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on November 05, 2014, 10:21:37 AM
I agree. Let's get it right people, she's a narcissistic womanchild. Not a psychopath.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 05, 2014, 10:25:03 AM
I did call her a narcissist. I just threw the word psychopath in there for good measure.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 05, 2014, 11:27:02 AM
that problematic tumblr is some reachy shit lol. but I did learn a new word, misogynoir (mysogny against black women) :dead

also, more than anything, I'm mad that this whole drama has made me hate the word 'agency'.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 05, 2014, 11:36:33 AM
http://yourfaveisproblematic.tumblr.com/post/49284037149/dan-savage

GOAT gay troll
:rejoice
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 05, 2014, 11:39:55 AM
heh, the first savage link is to a post from... 2003. :what
http://yourfaveisproblematic.tumblr.com/post/90435923836/kerli

i don't even know who this person is but this is the weakest attempt at a shame-callout i've ever seen.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 05, 2014, 11:41:13 AM
Yeah, Dan Savage is a dickhead.

He's on my list of "people I don't get rustled by under any circumstances." Up there with Artie Lange and Sarah Silverman. Not falling for it.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 05, 2014, 11:45:43 AM
Yeah, there's a lot of reaching in that problematic tumblr thing.
If you have a drink every time your read "appropriation," you'll die after three or four posts.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 05, 2014, 11:54:43 AM
people get rustled by artie lange? dudes a heroin soaked pincushion
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Positive Touch on November 05, 2014, 12:00:04 PM
I've been trying to think up a good trolling angle for shakas love of savage, but I kinda felt bad about going in on him. now that I know I have an ally  :lawd
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 05, 2014, 12:01:45 PM
please do not infringe on shaka's agency to enjoy problematic gay commentators
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 05, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
He's an equal opportunity shit thrower. I can't hate on that.
:yeshrug
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on November 05, 2014, 12:04:36 PM
"my friends" :hitler
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Positive Touch on November 05, 2014, 12:05:10 PM
omg link
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on November 05, 2014, 04:19:19 PM
that problematic tumblr is some reachy shit lol. but I did learn a new word, misogynoir (mysogny against black women) :dead

also, more than anything, I'm mad that this whole drama has made me hate the word 'agency'.

Browsing through it I found a picture of Harry Styles throwing up the west side W that called the W a "gang sign". Fight for equality while being a cryptoracist brehs
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Pickles the Firecat on November 05, 2014, 05:51:36 PM
People should hate Dan Savage because of his dogshit relationship advice first and foremost.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Mr. Nobody on November 05, 2014, 06:37:00 PM
but I did learn a new word, misogynoir (mysogny against black women) :dead

 :sabu
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2014, 01:40:59 AM
My bf sent me this after we were talking about gentrification earlier.

http://www.salon.com/2014/04/08/gentrifications_insidious_violence_the_truth_about_american_cities/

Makes me dislike this chick even more. She calls herself the voice of our generation? But can't talk about gentrification?
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 19, 2014, 09:25:58 AM
Makes me dislike this chick even more. She calls herself the voice of our generation? But can't talk about gentrification?

She's basically Lindsay from Arrested Development.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: benjipwns on November 19, 2014, 10:00:20 AM
She's basically Lindsay from Arrested Development.
How dare you, I bet she couldn't make Hot Ham Water if her life depended on it.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 19, 2014, 10:18:27 AM
It's actually easy for her, that's just her used bath water.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Brehvolution on November 19, 2014, 10:58:03 AM
It's actually easy for her, that's just her used bath water.
:whoo
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Reb on November 19, 2014, 11:00:00 AM
This whole topic is shit, but I had to give that a dap.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 09, 2014, 06:49:33 PM
Quote
Concha: Lena Dunham’s Republican-Raped-Me Story Crumbles as Legal Action Looms
http://www.mediaite.com/online/concha-lena-dunhams-republican-raped-me-story-crumbles-as-legal-action-looms/

(http://i.imgur.com/LdkDNbX.png)
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on December 09, 2014, 07:16:48 PM
Lena Dunham is a piece of shit.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 09, 2014, 07:21:21 PM
She is just the worst
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 09, 2014, 09:34:27 PM
There are no Republicans in Oberlin College.  That was the most obvious tell the story was made up.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 09, 2014, 10:28:17 PM
Himu once said that Dunham set feminists back several years. She wasn't wrong.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: Himu on December 09, 2014, 11:17:50 PM
Lena Dunham is the Dick Cheney of feminists. An influential fuck who harps extremely despicable views in the guise of "freedom" or in this case, speaking for women, anywhere. Bush era torture to Cheney is what Not That Kind of Girl is to Dunham: a full dossier, in fact, on their glowing toddler-vagina-opening hypocrisy.
Title: Re: #dunhamgate
Post by: nudemacusers on December 10, 2014, 12:00:00 AM
not surprised people are defending this chick or minimizing her scust ways  :yuck