THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Phoenix Dark on January 20, 2007, 02:00:58 PM
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton jumped into the fray as a 2008 presidential candidate with the words "I'm in" posted on her Web site.
"And I'm in to win," she added in a statement, announcing she has set up an exploratory committee that can gauge opinions and raise money for a presidential campaign.
Clinton's announcement comes two years to the day the next president will be inaugurated: January 20, 2009.
The former first lady and Democratic senator from New York is considered her party's front-runner in what has become a diverse Democratic field. (Watch Clinton's offer to chat with voters as she launches her White House campaign Video)
Should she win, she would be the first woman to serve as president of the United States -- and the first presidential spouse to do so as well. President Bill Clinton served two terms from 1993 to 2001.
On Tuesday, Democrat Sen. Barack Obama announced that he was filing papers to form a presidential exploratory committee, a bid to become the first African-American president. (Full story)
And on Sunday, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, also a Democrat, is expected to announce his bid, one that could make him the first Latino president.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/20/clinton.announcement/index.html
Game. Set. Match
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Oh shit, Last Dayz are coming! A pharaoh told me so!
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more like Last Dayz of the Democrats lulz
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I honestly can't see how she can win the nomination, democratic primary trends are against her.
When do Democrats nominate the front runner in a open election?
Never. The only time it ever happened in like 50 years was Mondale.
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Money>all
Say hello to Mammy President
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Money>all
Say hello to Mammy President
I guess the Republicans won in 2006 then. They had money on their side.
You realize Democrats almost NEVER nominate the front runner, money be damned?
Oh btw, a primary poll from Michigan came out the other day. We are Obama country.
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Money>all
Say hello to Mammy President
I guess the Republicans won in 2006 then. They had money on their side.
You realize Democrats almost NEVER nominate the front runner, money be damned?
Oh btw, a primary poll from Michigan came out the other day. We are Obama country.
Link?
HILLARY AM CONFIRMED EITHER WAY
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Last 3 open primaries PD
2004:
Early in 2003 Edwards raised more cash than Kerry. Then came Dean mania and he raised more than Kerry and was the unstoppable front runner untill mere weeks befor the primaries of Jan. 2004.
1992:
The man with all the money, all the support, and the polls was Paul Tsongas.
He was the golden boy unstoppable front runner. If anyone could cause a insurgency against him the primary it was Jerry Brown. Paul Tsongas won the first primary in NH. Clinton did not win any of the first primaries. The south supported Clinton and Bill became the "comeback kid" of the primaries coming out of nowhere.
1988:
The front runner was a man named Gary Hart, He seemed unstoppable. Had all the money and such. However media obsessions about extramarital affairs destroyed him.
Two men took his place as the front runners. Joe Biden and Al Gore. Joe Biden stupidly plagerized a speech, destroying his campaign. Al Gore's kid got hit by a car and nearly killed so he quit to stay with his son. Which left the primary with the unknown Dukakis.
Need I go on?
88:
Hart
92:
Tsongas
04:
Dean
08:
Clinton
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I'm hoping for Richardson or Edwards. There's no way in hell I'm voting for Hillary. And I vote Democratic...
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I'm hoping for Richardson or Edwards. There's no way in hell I'm voting for Hillary. And I vote Democratic...
Richardson wont get it. He is someone Hillary would pick as VP, likely the top contender for it if she is nominated due to his massive foreign policy experience (she would not pick Obama, someone who would "outshine" her). And Richardson is close to the Clintons. If you want Richardson in the WH, it will be through Hillary if anything.
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I don't know much about American politics, but what's wrong with Hillary?
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I don't know much about American politics, but what's wrong with Hillary?
Liberals hate her due to her being very poll driven which leads to her supporting stupid things. This "support what is popular" mantra had her supporting flag burning and the video game violence nonsense. She was strongly for the Iraq War when it was popular in the polls.
She doesn't listen to her instincts or gut if you will. It makes her seem very boring and wishy-washy.
Republicans hate her because she is hawkish and tough as nails. She will tear apart ANYONE who gets in her way in elections, regardless how dirty it seems.
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Oh, ok thanks
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http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/01/postabc_poll_clinton_giuliani.html
How am you spin this Cheebs? :lol
Hillary Clinton 41 39
Barack Obama 17 17
John Edwards 11 12
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I would not vote for Hillary. She just seems to be too calculating and sinister in her political rise for power. I just don't like it. I like John Edwards though.
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http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/01/postabc_poll_clinton_giuliani.html
How am you spin this Cheebs? :lol
Hillary Clinton 41 39
Barack Obama 17 17
John Edwards 11 12
Front runners never win PD. learn primary politics before getting so worried.
John Kerry was at 6% in Feb of 2003.
In Early 1991 Bill Clinton didn't even get enough votes in the polls to have 1%.
Remember in 1980 Jimmy Carter had a huge boost in the polls due to the Iran crisis and up to mere days before the election it seemed to close to call. He won one single state.
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Thought this was cute, from James Taranto (OpinionJournal):
A Male First Lady? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/20/us/politics/20cnd-clinton.html?ei=5090&en=36b2221854a99e07&ex=1326949200&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all
New York's Sen. Hillary Clinton has established an exploratory committee http://www.hillaryclinton.com/ , the first step toward an expected run for the presidency next year, the New York Times reports, adding that New York's junior senator is a woman of substantial accomplishment: "While she is not associated with any major piece of legislation, she is widely regarded as an effective, thoughtful lawmaker who has built bipartisan ties."
Mrs. Clinton's husband is Bill Clinton, who served as president from 1993 through 2001. If she becomes president, he would be the first male first lady, and the two of them would be the only people in American history to serve as both president and first lady.
The Times claims that Mrs. Clinton "is broadly popular with women," but we have to wonder about this. Whereas she is known for the cozy domestic life she shares with devoted hubby Bill in their Chappaqua, N.Y., home, the majority of American women don't even live with a spouse. Can Mrs. Clinton possibly relate to these modern women, who, as the Times http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/16/us/16census.html?ei=5090&en=8b61820a6c4712e5&ex=1326603600&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all notes, delight in their freedom? "It takes a village to raise a child," Mrs. Clinton once observed. But does Emily Zuzik, a 32-year-old musician and model who lives in the East Village of Manhattan, really want to be tied down with kids?
The senator's campaign Web site features a video http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/video/ depicting a relaxed-looking Mrs. Clinton sitting on a couch, asking Americans to join a "conversation" with her. "You know, after six years of George Bush, it is time to renew the promise of America, our basic bargain: that no matter who you are or where you live, if you work hard and play by the rules, you can build a good life for yourself and your family."
On the official Democratic Party Web site, someone called Sadie http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/01/weekend_open_th_16.php?comments=1#c257942 puts the case against Bush in slightly stronger terms (quoting verbatim):
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BUSH makes me literally ill. the bile is rising up in my stomach as we speak....I wish I could race into bush's office and vomit all over his face. I wish I could stand over him and puke and gag and wretch until nothing but the last nasty drop of yellowish green bile runs down his ugly hate filled face, off his chin and down over his suit.
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It may turn out, then, that Mrs. Clinton is a bit too mellow to appeal to her party's core voters.
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I would not vote for Hillary. She just seems to be too calculating and sinister in her political rise for power. I just don't like it. I like John Edwards though.
Gee, are women supposed to not act like their male peers in the same business? Is she more sinister and calculating than the last 20 presidents?
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I would not vote for Hillary. She just seems to be too calculating and sinister in her political rise for power. I just don't like it. I like John Edwards though.
Oh, cool, so you're willing to give the GOP at least another four years in the White House. Fantastic. ::)
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Diablos people were like this about Kerry. By the time the convention happens all liberally leaning supporters ALWAYS get brought back in the fold.
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NO
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:lol
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He better hope to get advice from Rove!
Hillary has the democrat version of Rove on her side.
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Rove will go down as one of the greatest political strategists in history - and easily of our time.
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Rove will go down as one of the greatest political strategists in history - and easily of our time.
I fully agree. The man is a genius.
THANK GOD he is retiring though. He said he is done with politics after the Bush administration and 2006 was his last election he will work on.
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2006 definitely wasn't his fault. I can't help but think that he'll try one more time lol
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2006 definitely wasn't his fault. I can't help but think that he'll try one more time lol
He has been stating since 2000 that he is done after Bush so I take him at his word. And Rove DESTROYED McCain in 2000 with personal attacks I doubt he wants him on board.