THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Eschaton on February 25, 2015, 11:09:37 AM
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Like 7 years too late :heh
Mayweather UD 12 Pacquiao
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Floyd UD 12 Pacquiao
Wont be worth the 100 dollars it costs to get it.
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The only way for Manny to pull this off is to get lucky and land a good body shot that slows Floyd down long enough for him to check his chin. And that's not going to be easy to do.
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The only way for Manny to pull this off is to get lucky and land a good body shot that slows Floyd down long enough for him to check his chin. And that's not going to be easy to do.
Floyd has a good chin. I honestly can't remember seeing him get dropped like that, it's been a while since I watched him fight.
Honestly though, manny hits hard with his left straight and right hook on occasion but above 140lb he was kind of mostly like an accumulation / bleeding tko type finisher. I just don't see him getting the lucky one hit kill.
Hence why I said check his chin, no guarantees. However at his age and with his net worth protected I wonder how much of a beating Floyd would take before he just went down and collected his money? Have to factor that in, he really has nothing to prove.
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I'd say he still has enough to prove. People accused him of ducking for years, and he obviously wants to keep his 0 intact and retire undefeated. If we're gonna talk mentality, floyd might be a fuckboy but he is a winner through and through.
Feels like a retirement fight for both honestly.
180 million for Floyd guaranteed
100+ million for Manny
Yeah, they're done.
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Yawn. Floyd will win by decision. No one will hit the ground.
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Yawn. Floyd will win by decision. No one will hit the ground.
Yeah that's what we all think.
I also think estimating 4,000,000 buyers on the PPV for $100 bucks a pop might be a little pie in the sky. They have taken so long to get this fight together and they have aged so much I think it's going to turn off guys like we are seeing in this thread.
I'd buy it for 50, but I am not going to pay 100 dollars for it.
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Yawn. Floyd will win by decision. No one will hit the ground.
Yeah that's what we all think.
I also think estimating 4,000,000 buyers on the PPV for $100 bucks a pop might be a little pie in the sky. They have taken so long to get this fight together and they have aged so much I think it's going to turn off guys like we are seeing in this thread.
I'd buy it for 50, but I am not going to pay 100 dollars for it.
Yeah but how much do all the sports bars pay to be able to show it? It's gotta be more
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Yawn. Floyd will win by decision. No one will hit the ground.
Yeah that's what we all think.
I also think estimating 4,000,000 buyers on the PPV for $100 bucks a pop might be a little pie in the sky. They have taken so long to get this fight together and they have aged so much I think it's going to turn off guys like we are seeing in this thread.
I'd buy it for 50, but I am not going to pay 100 dollars for it.
Yeah but how much do all the sports bars pay to be able to show it? It's gotta be more
Doubtful they will be able too. Floyd's camp is pretty particular on that crap. They feel like one guy paying 5,000 isn't worth losing 500 individual investors.
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Most people don't buy PPV solo. The homies chip in $10-20 each and make an event of it at.
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Most people don't buy PPV solo. The homies chip in $10-20 each and make an event of it at.
Yeah, we know that. I'm saying they don't do sports bars because getting 500 people in there defeats the purpose of the PPV which is to sell quantity.
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Do people still care about boxing enough to watch this? I thought it's basically a dead sport
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Do people still care about boxing enough to watch this? I thought it's basically a dead sport
even in its limped milquetoast state, i prefer it to UFC
UFC :holeup
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Most people don't buy PPV solo. The homies chip in $10-20 each and make an event of it at.
Oh wow really? Never heard of such a thing. I just assumed everyone just bought it and watched them alone.
:ohhh
just dropping jewels breh
:obama
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I'm guessing a boring ass Floyd decision, though a KO would be nice. Also welcome to 2009 guys :'(
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Yeah, I wanted to watch this fight... 5-6 years ago. Now, no fucks given.
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I can't imagine this'll be anything other than 12 rounds of Floyd ducking and dodging
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I can't imagine this'll be anything other than 12 rounds of Floyd ducking and dodging
lots of #hottakes itt
:whew
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Basically, I got into boxing thanks to Hajime no Ippo. When I tried to watch actual real-life boxing was sorely disappointed with how utterly awkward it is to watch. Every fight is a slugfest unless you're carefully analyzing. And even then there are far too many clumsy moments, unlike the perfect fighting choreography in anime.
I feel the same way, but about bipedal armored fighting vehicles instead of boxing.
We have to accept that art is always more fulfilling than reality. :'(
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I would add fencing to the list.
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Funny enough , Hajime no Ippo ended up being the biggest disappointment. more than real life boxing. 1000 chapters of hot garbage. No character development and the author got worse and worse at the boxing aspects of the whole thing :kobeyuck
Awful series.
I read 700 chapters of that nonsense :goty
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Complete lack of character development is the only real flaw of Hajime no Ippo.
no, it's horrible. Action went completely into superhuman dbz garbage, the art became overly clean and shit, it became incredibly predictable, and it does an amateurish job of exploring the human condition from the ring perspective.
all of those would be fine if it was exciting. It's poorly paced week by week. Just shit.
...so what you're telling me is that it's a typical anime
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I'm still goddamned pissed Ippo hasn't kissed his girlfriend yet in the anime I mean come on let a weeaboo dream yo. :snoop
Yeah, this was pretty pathetic.
At 1000+ chapters, you'd think they'd be married with kids by now. How much longer can this "oh gosh :uguu" bullshit go on?
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I love the idea of boxing. But the sport itself, like any other sport, is goddamned boring to watch.
Basically, I got into boxing thanks to Hajime no Ippo. When I tried to watch actual real-life boxing was sorely disappointed with how utterly awkward it is to watch. Every fight is a slugfest unless you're carefully analyzing. And even then there are far too many clumsy moments, unlike the perfect fighting choreography in anime.
So many fucking yarodomo getting knocked the fuck down in Hajime no Ippo. I see nothing but (bad) decisions in the real world of boxing.
:rofl
This is incredible. Like an entire metaphor for the broken way you view everything.
Real boxing is.... not as good as anime boxing :leon
Real breasts are.... not as good as fake ones :leon
I feel like this is a turning point in Bore history for you Dufus. A construction of a definitive, binding pre and post ether narrative for you. Yesterday you were just a boy who dallied about with dreams and aspirations. Tonight you are a shamed man. This is the end of your chapter.
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ugh - thanks for giving us the fight of the century 5 years after we wanted it
regardless - this is pretty much guaranteed to be Mayweathers last fight IMO
I dislike Mayweather on a personal level but he is clearly a boxing phenomenon - he is a defensive boxing text book personified. There is nothing i would love more than Manny to do what he did to Hatton - but that simply isn't going to happen: Mayweather will sit and absorb it all and pick Manny off - no knock outs and i expect the fight to be pretty awful to watch.
I am hoping that somehow Manny finds a punch early that puts Mayweather on his arse so we have a real fight on our hands - but i can't see it.
Mayweather on points , following a boring fight.
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Also I expect the inevitable rematch to be Mayweather's last fight. Probably Manny's as well.
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As a boxing fan, I'd still wanna watch this fight just for spectacle. It definitely isn't gonna be $100 good, but I'll chip in $20 to see it at my bros.
Even if the most likely scenario of Floyd winning by decision comes to pass.
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Mayweather living the life. I can't hate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqeyO15oQcM
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I love the idea of boxing. But the sport itself, like any other sport, is goddamned boring to watch.
Basically, I got into boxing thanks to Hajime no Ippo. When I tried to watch actual real-life boxing was sorely disappointed with how utterly awkward it is to watch. Every fight is a slugfest unless you're carefully analyzing. And even then there are far too many clumsy moments, unlike the perfect fighting choreography in anime.
So many fucking yarodomo getting knocked the fuck down in Hajime no Ippo. I see nothing but (bad) decisions in the real world of boxing.
Watch anime but call boxing awkward brehs
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Take everything you have and put it on Floyd
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/tim-tebow-shows-support-for-manny-pacquiao-before-pacman-s-fight-with-floyd-mayweather-063619893-boxing.html
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My heart is with manny, but my dosh is with mayweather
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how can i make money off this
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Gonna watch the fight with Filipino family and friends. Can't wait for the asshurt to commence when Floyd takes this one by UD :lawd
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Gonna watch the fight with Filipino family and friends. Can't wait for the asshurt to commence when Floyd takes this one by UD :lawd
If they were younger I could see the decision going to Manny just to give Floyd that L and to generate more money for the rematch. But hell, they may just do it anyway for the easy cash-in before they both get too old.
Heart says Manny, brain says Money.
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This fight's going to be annoying as fuck to watch unfold as dudes who never bothered watching boxing show up to shit up the discussion.
Then again I just went to see Chavez Jr. like a week ago live at Stub Hub.
Nothing's going to beat that overgrown child throwing a tantrum then quitting on the fucking stool for disappointments.
I'm ready for this fight
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thinking about going to a bar to check this out. It's years too late. But still, better than nothing.
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Fight goes the distance, Mayweather wins by split decision.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF76dlQt23c
pretty good doc
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Fight goes the distance, Mayweather wins by split decision.
Same except for unanimous.
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Mayweather is gonna park the bus for the whole match - manny just needs to break that
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That's why boxing sucks ass. You rarely get to see fighters fight each other in their prime and when they do have a 'big event' the undercard is a joke. They should be using it to promote future fighters/contenders. But every promoter has his own fiefdom/network obligations to fill.
I'm not going to bother watching these old midgets fight.
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http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/floyd-mayweather-bans-rachel-nichols-michelle-beadle
:umad
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This is an incredible misogynist thing for me to bring up given the tone of the whole subject, but there's something about Rachel Nichols that's always lit a fire in my loins from a very tender age.
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All I see is ESPN embarrassing themselves hyping this fight, running with the "good v evil" narrative, driving interesting...nah, fuck em. Can't have it both ways.
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C'mon brehs it's a Pac fight. Worse comes to worse we'll see him get TKO trying to run Mayweather down. He's not just gonna stop and resort to a slow pace even if he's getting jabbed to death.
It doesn't matter if they're past their prime brehs, certain fighters always put on a decent show. I'd watch a 40 year old Barrera vs. Morales fight especially if it had a decent undercard.
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Stans on both sides reaching unsufferable levels
Mayweather wins this handily
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Stans on both sides reaching unsufferable levels
Mayweather wins this handily
Your reading comprehension is garbage.
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All I see is ESPN embarrassing themselves hyping this fight, running with the "good v evil" narrative, driving interesting...nah, fuck em. Can't have it both ways.
Mayweather is a pretty awful human being...
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All I see is ESPN embarrassing themselves hyping this fight, running with the "good v evil" narrative, driving interesting...nah, fuck em. Can't have it both ways.
Mayweather is a pretty awful human being...
Of course he is. I'm just annoyed by the coverage which seems more like cynical promotion for the fight than anything else. And let's not pretend Pac is a good guy.
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Pac loves him some Jesus tho
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lol, I just went back and listened to the Rachel Nichols interview.
"It was never proven that I beat women, that's all just hearsay and allegations."
"What about when you plead guilty and served time for a crime that was witnessed by your own son, who called the cops on you."
"There are no pictures of it, tho and it was never proven in courts, it's just allegations. Only God can judge me."
:what
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All I see is ESPN embarrassing themselves hyping this fight, running with the "good v evil" narrative, driving interesting...nah, fuck em. Can't have it both ways.
Mayweather is a pretty awful human being...
Of course he is. I'm just annoyed by the coverage which seems more like cynical promotion for the fight than anything else. And let's not pretend Pac is a good guy.
Don't sweat it, the casual fans are going to judge the fight on some narrative that has 0 bearing on the actual fight. The actual fans will just want the match, also I'm bouncing out to a BBQ. I was supposed to go to a first communion but I was like nah actually... I have to work late
Pac prob prayed enough for both of us before tonight.
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Pac loves him some Jesus tho
He also supports our lord and savior Messi
May Messi bring him good luck in the ring
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this dude is wearing a damn barrel.
that is one high belt
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Charter Communications fucks up again: their service crashed and no one can watch the fight
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So how is everyone streaming this?
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Anyone have any streaming links? Or is that not kosher, Demi?
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Not trying to pay to watch this wife beater
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Anyone have any streaming links? Or is that not kosher, Demi?
i've found a couple and they're awful or in some european dirt language (double awful)
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I have a good UK stream. I'll PM y'all who want it.
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Here is a stream if someone needs one. Not the greatest but its my backup incase the kodi one flakes out on me.
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If we're cool to post here then I'll just do that.
http://www.giddyupnetwork.info/pages/live-sports-channels
Stream #1
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sweet, thanks
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Stans on both sides reaching unsufferable levels
Mayweather wins this handily
Your reading comprehension is garbage.
It really is, I didn't even read your post lol
Imo Pac ain't even gonna put up much of a fight through attrition
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720p and no lag. god bless youtube
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720p and no lag. god bless youtube
Better than the strugglestream I had going with Scottish announcers. :bow2
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720p and no lag. god bless youtube
Oh dude nice
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this fight is boring and I wanna go home
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this fight is boring and I wanna go home
Mayweather is a great fighter. He is also coma inducing for me because of his defensive style. It's why I prefer to watch MMA nowadays. Basically Manny seemed to run out of gas about halfway through the fight.
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Some old Mayweather fight. No power punches and a superior defense that prevents his opponent from ever making it interesting.
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RIP The Great White Filipino Hype
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The rumble in West Side Story that I performed back in HS had more action
but jeez - I really did want to see Pacman smack that cocky smirk to the ground :fbm
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Manny looks so sad talking to the guy with the mic: "I thought I won the fight!"
"I can handle his power!
"Size doesn't matter."
I'm understanding why I never watched a boxing match before, it's just boring. You don't even know the score until the end but it definitely looks like Mayweather boxed better.
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People paid money to watch Mayweather hug it out for 12 rounds? I watch people hug it out on pornhub for free. Suckers
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Boxing isn't boring, it's boxing with dudes their size that is boring. Its all speed and little power. There is rarely ever any consequences for making a mistake or letting your guard down. So, you get these kinds of fights that go to the judges.
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Business as usual for Floyd.
So glad I didn't buy this
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Fantastic match. Great setup. Nice promo videos. I see you Sean, I see you Mark. Tense. Boxing par excellence. Biggest fight of the century.
As someone who paid 200 Euros for the stream, I must say I'm pretty happy with how it went down even if nobody went down, know'm saying? This is NOT me trying to justify paying absurd prices for a live stream that runs in 480p - this is the god of boxing speaking though me and agreeing that this was a great match.
Shame on all you trashtalking 'event fans'. You can take your memes to Twitter and die there for all that I care.
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We live in weird times when the best inside fighter in the world is a 168lber
Yup
shout outs to mac's mom
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Skip Bayless is saying Manny won. Like clockwork.
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Boxing isn't boring, it's boxing with dudes their size that is boring. Its all speed and little power. There is rarely ever any consequences for making a mistake or letting your guard down. So, you get these kinds of fights that go to the judges.
In the 80s middleweights around 150 to 160 and even lower provided amazing fighters with lots of different styles.
The problem for me is strictly Mayweather or more accurately, super technical defensive fighters. It's all just really boring. I can appreciate it in an academic way and its not his fault but his style is just utterly boring unless you are a hardcore boxing nerd.
To me this felt like the last gasp of big time boxing. Now that this fight is done and in the books, I go back to not caring about boxing until the next big fight in 30 years just before I die.
It's sad because I grew up loving boxing, but the sport is so fucked in its future prognosis imo.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEDox_CUIAI7M1b.jpg)
:neogaf
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^ fucking millenials
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Fucking LOL at Manny stans claiming a "moral victory" when their boy acted like a spoiled little dipshit after being soundly outboxed for twelve rounds.
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Fucking LOL at Manny stans claiming a "moral victory" when their boy acted like a spoiled little dipshit after being soundly outboxed for twelve rounds.
Oh my god the internet is having a shitfit right now claiming boxing is dead. It's delicious
Meanwhile GGG fight coming and PBC still going with Khan Algieri at the end of the month
:mouf
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lmao at ESPN
I'm disappointed but ESPN is asshurt to a whole new level
and I'm pretty sure Skip is revaluating his life now
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:mannysalt
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Two dudes richer than god who fought like they were both shook for 12 rounds. Mayweather was even more cautious than normal and Manny looks even more washed than his last fight.
They've got to change the rules somehow to prevent turtling. Maybe put in a hugging penalty.
:mindblown
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Wouldn't having more brutal fights reduce the "safe" number of major fights a boxer could endure before retiring? I'm guessing that's why each event already costs so much to view and the ppv aspect is already a big issue for boxings popularity.
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I had Manny ahead 4 rounds to 2 after 6, but Floyd did probably win the second half of that fight. Manny seemed to lose it around round 8 or so.
Breh, by the 8th Manny had maybe 3 rounds locked down if I'm being REAL FUCKING GENEROUS
Effective aggression was nonexistant. The pace was set by Mayweather, Pac failed to keep it up aside from the few he managed to stick. The rest of the rounds the dude was hitting air or glove which amount to shit aside from making casual fans scream.
Scorecards were brutal but dead on.
(https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/rECBzVNOdiCDLLBbzFADn-NzFUs=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3664742/20150502_220734.0.jpg)
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--uGRFeQuO--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18814kixx3qjopng.png)
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Yep. Pac got controlled throughout the fight. Other than a few flurries it was all Mayweather.
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Yeah, love how boxing nerds be like "yo man you don't understand the technical aspect of that fight, it was incredible"
It was a boring fight between two multi-millionaires to get more millions while celebs and peasants cheer at them
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so that fight was pretty much exactly what everyone predicted. Fifth Rd. manny seemed to have floyd more gassed than any opponent in recent memory, but then floyd went on to deliver his typical boxing clinic. no boxing isnt an over the top brawl, and floyd knows he loses a brawl. he takes manny to the center of the ring and jabs him in the face for 12 Rds. the end.
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Boxing is so out of touch to mainstream. Fights like this won't help. Dana White must be giddy.
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social media is unreadable today with all these ppl complaining about hugging and running
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Mayweather :rejoice
Salty ass Pacfeggits on twitter :sabu
Social media media is packed with people who haven't watched boxing since Tyson saying they'll never watch again lol
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Mayweather = Mourinho
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Private Jets at Las Vegas airport!!! Wing to wing- airport closed now to private planes #MayPac
(http://i.imgur.com/3Xt6NBE.jpg)
:mindblown
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Mayweather :rejoice
Salty ass Pacfeggits on twitter :sabu
Social media media is packed with people who haven't watched boxing since Tyson saying they'll never watch again lol
this is probably the first boxing match for most social media.
i can't zap on that regard, i rarely watch boxing, but i'm also not going to pretend to know what it's 'supposed to look like'. or talk about fighting with heart when the loser still pockets what 100 million? :heh
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Just cracks me up that people who got 100% of their boxing experience from Rocky movies and Tyson clips were SHOCKED that this wasn't a slugfest where Pac won in a KO. Basically it seems most people's definition of "entertaining match" means "Mayweather KO'd", at least online.
Then they moan that they'll never pay for pirate a boxing match again :heh
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The match was boring, but still more entertaining than the last two ASoIaF books
:jawalrus
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Just cracks me up that people who got 100% of their boxing experience from Rocky movies and Tyson clips were SHOCKED that this wasn't a slugfest where Pac won in a KO. Basically it seems most people's definition of "entertaining match" means "Mayweather KO'd", at least online.
Then they moan that they'll never pay for pirate a boxing match again :heh
There are definitely a lot of reddit types who wanted that distinguished black fellow to get his ass kicked and any result that wasn't that invokes their inner closet bigot. I also do think for a casual person who was only pulled in because of the hype, it probably was a generally boring experience.
I like mma more than boxing but its also annoying to see mma fans mock such a fight when its pretty easy for high level mma to also turn into a relatively boring wrestle-fuck situation.
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Clearly Floyd just wore himself out by beating on all the women backstage right before the fight, that's why he had to use hugs :maf
If only our true savior Manny would have been able to conquer the evil giant we could have been saved but Pac was just too scared that the Brutal Thug Mayweather would have destroyed his whole family in retaliation if he would have landed a punch. The Thug might have even sent his crony, the Burger King, after poor Pac's relatives. :o
It's unfortunate that Sweet Manny only walked away with $100 million but it shouldn't be surprising that the Evil Thug Mayweather would use such Forceful Negro Tactics to rob an innocent gentleman. :'(
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If you want an example of a 'boring match', watch the Mayweather/Canelo Alvarez fight. At least Manny tried to take the fight to Mayweather in the middle rounds.
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Just because something might not be entertaining doesn't mean it's boring, I always dislike that this distinction is thrown away after events like this.
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The last genuinely entertaining thing to happen in the world of boxing was the movie "The Great White Hype"
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Just because something might not be entertaining doesn't mean it's boring, I always dislike that this distinction is thrown away after events like this.
I think the better distinction is hardcore versus casual. Casuals of anything want more action. More immediate gratification. Hardcore fans might want more action but they also understand or at least willing to tolerate less action because of the strategy involved.
For a casual that probably wasn't a very entertaining fight.Some hardcore fans may not have found it a very entertaining fight, but they understand at least that Mayweather won the boxing match.
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as a casual, i thought it was interesting how mayweather basically set the parameters of engagement each round and challenged pac to break them, and he never really did. dude just ran up and tried to pummel over and over again, and near the end je starting throwing wild hail mary haymakers.
not sure why you'd expect an undefeated champ to climb out of his castle and fight his competitor on their terms. dude was just outstrategized for basically 12 rounds while floyd got a nice cardio workout :yeshrug
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Lotta people came in expecting some Rocky shit. Like dudes out here taking 12 rounds on the chin and not ending up with brain damage at the end of a fight is a real thing.
Sounds like people expected May to hit Pac with a chair then kidnap his mom while Stone Cold sprayed beer on the crowd to distract them. :heh
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I would've marked the fuck out if the Burger King betrayed Mayweather by giving him a chairshot.
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Yeah, love how boxing nerds be like "yo man you don't understand the technical aspect of that fight, it was incredible"
It was a boring fight between two multi-millionaires to get more millions while celebs and peasants cheer at them
Really? The boxing nerds I know have been saying that last sentence for ages now. Everyone I've known who was been excited for this fight either hadn't actually watched Mayweather fight or just forgot that he's usually pretty unexciting to watch. The thing that's defined his success, being incredibly defensive and picking every one of his shots, is inherently kind of dull.
One thing that might make boxing more exciting is if the booking wasn't so god awful. The undercards here are a perfect example of how this shit is a joke. Showtime didn't even have a picture for one of the dudes on their website. Shit, the announcers themselves told you who was jobbing for who before the matches even started. But hey, why give people anything remotely exciting when you can give your latest signee an easy win before the biggest match in decades? Embarrassing. No wonder MMA is eating their audiences for breakfast.
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Boxing would be exciting* if the heavyweight division, where you can have power punchers be competitive, was healthy. It's not and hasn't been in forever.
*"exciting" basically = good chance of knockouts or slugfests to keep the casuals interested
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Fuck a rematch, Floyd should fight Amir Khan instead. That's what would really impress me at this point. Kell Brook would also give him the business at this age, though I believe prime Floyd could have beaten them both...He ain't stupid enough to fight either of them at this point.