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Title: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Bebpo on March 14, 2015, 04:02:24 PM: I'm in wine country and got bored (tasting later) and so went exploring (not much out in the desert) so went to the nearby casino, but every time I think about spending $30 gambling I'm like "I could buy Cities Skylines with that" and build a city with a casino and managing that is more of a thrill than the thrill of throwing $30 down the toilet :x

Don't think it'll ever click with me. If I want to play blackjack I'll play it at home for free on the computer and only feel sorta shitty when I lose vs super shitty when I lose and it's real money.

Just ramblin'
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: mormapope on March 14, 2015, 04:03:58 PM: You need to get more drunk or high.

Gambling and having fun naturally with it is personal thing. I love the idea of gambling and betting, don't know why. Even gambling with tiny amounts of money can be fun.

Play around with really low stake stuff like slot machines.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Kara on March 14, 2015, 04:08:07 PM: Fitz has a great monologue in an episode of Cracker about why it :rock but I can't find it atm. To oversimplify, it was something to the tune of beating the universe when everything was stacked against you.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: king of the internet on March 14, 2015, 04:11:51 PM: It's one vice that doesn't appeal to me. :yeshrug

Maybe it's just my bad luck but constantly losing money doesn't really scratch that instant gratification itch that I have. I'm fine with that, even if you win frequent gaming is pretty much always a net loss in the end.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Kara on March 14, 2015, 04:14:32 PM: Life is a net operating loss, you just carryforward until involuntary conversion (that means death) occurs. (emo)
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Bebpo on March 14, 2015, 05:01:31 PM: I've also finally accepted that I'm too damn curious to do a "relaxing" vacation. When I'm somewhere new with limited time to be there I wake up early and spend almost all my time away from my room exploring by foot, car or public transportation. It's fun and when I come back I feel exhausted and the following weekend is recovering.

This time I tried to do something different and do a relaxing type with nothing to do but drink wine, eat and relax in the sun. But that's only like 30% of a day and relaxing in is boring and exploring is exciting, so I'm driving/walking around to all these vineyards and casinos and parks.

I think the only way I can have a "relax" day is staying at home, with all my house errands already done and just chilling playing videogames, reading books/watching movies/reading books & comics with no plans for the day we. I do that about one Saturday a month and it's nice, but vacations are always gonna be fun and exhausting for me (meanwhile my so's totally fine with chilling, relaxing and napping in the room while I go off exploring and exhaust myself).

Still rambling cause I'm back at the hotel and there's nothing to do besides drinking (although the drinking is sure good)
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 14, 2015, 05:21:22 PM: i once had an impossibly gorgeous girl i just met at a bar ask me to go with her to a casino at 2 am. it was so bizarre i had to say yes. she paid for everything so i ended up losing like $400 of her money, plus she bought me a bunch of expensive cocktails.

it was the most expensive "date" I've ever been on, except she wasn't interested in me in the least. she just really wanted to take a man with her to the casino at that moment and i happened to be the only one around.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Bebpo on March 14, 2015, 06:44:26 PM: Wine tasting is a really clever scam, you get buzzed on really good tasting wines and then you end up with 4 bottles in hand as you walk away :x
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 14, 2015, 06:45:42 PM: You just need to make it more interesting. Try dog fighting.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 14, 2015, 07:09:16 PM: because gambling is fucking stupid by ANY measure. really, the ONLY valid test for a sub-88 iq should be: "do you gamble?"
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: nudemacusers on March 14, 2015, 07:24:02 PM: if you chill at cheap tables with a couple bros it's a good way to get drinks for a low price
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 14, 2015, 07:28:13 PM: Gambling of any sort against the HOUSE is always stupid. Gambling against your fellow man in a game of poker is fun, though.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 14, 2015, 07:42:11 PM: few things are more annoying than that friend or family member who wants to turn EVERYTHING into a bet or gamble.

fuck gambling, brehs. go buy an index fund or something.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on March 14, 2015, 07:54:41 PM: The secret to gambling is to drink at least as much in free drinks relative to what you've lost. If you come out on top, that's just a bonus.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Kara on March 14, 2015, 08:16:18 PM: It's entertainment, y'all trying to rationalize it. :heh
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 14, 2015, 08:18:23 PM: lotsa stupid shit is entertaining, and for many things -- gambling, watching marvel movies, fucking your sister -- the dumber you are, the more fun it is.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 14, 2015, 08:19:59 PM: watching Japanese cartoons too
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 14, 2015, 08:21:06 PM: that too! and reading gaf
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: nudemacusers on March 14, 2015, 08:24:29 PM: Quote from: Vularai on March 14, 2015, 08:16:18 PM
It's entertainment, y'all trying to rationalize it. :heh
actually what's funny is the only time I've gambled, I was totally wasted on cloves and garbagey cocktails at planet hollywood at 2am and said fuck it and played blackjack for an hour with $100. I looked down and realized I had $1400 on the table and quickly said seeyaaa. of course none of it left vegas but I got my wife some cool shit.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
i tried to recapture the magic later that day with another $100 and lost it in 10 minutes :heh
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Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Rufus on March 14, 2015, 08:32:45 PM: I only gamble in video games. Currently annoyed that the pachislot machines in Yakuza 2 aren't actually pachislot machines but one-armed bandits with strange conditions.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Shuri on March 14, 2015, 09:24:31 PM: Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on March 14, 2015, 05:21:22 PM
i once had an impossibly gorgeous girl i just met at a bar ask me to go with her to a casino at 2 am. it was so bizarre i had to say yes. she paid for everything so i ended up losing like $400 of her money, plus she bought me a bunch of expensive cocktails.

it was the most expensive "date" I've ever been on, except she wasn't interested in me in the least. she just really wanted to take a man with her to the casino at that moment and i happened to be the only one around.
I was going to say that she used you to launder money but I realised that $400 is a rather low amount of money to launder..
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 14, 2015, 09:28:24 PM: Nah she just wanted a gigolo and everywhere Rec goes people know the part he's playing
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on March 14, 2015, 10:23:57 PM: There was an industry convention that was held at a casino that I attended a few years back. I won $50 one night and never gambled again.

Although gambling may be the only way that I could enjoy televised sports. That shit is boring as fuck otherwise.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Kara on March 14, 2015, 10:26:43 PM: Sports betting. :aah
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 14, 2015, 11:11:47 PM: Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on March 14, 2015, 09:28:24 PM
Nah she just wanted a gigolo and everywhere Rec goes people know the part he's playing

accurate.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 15, 2015, 12:23:01 AM: I accompanied a friend to Biloxi Mississippi back in 1999 and paid for my trip with blackjack and slot winnings. Drank a lot of free booze and hooked up with a change girl, too. My friend played craps and ended up having to borrow money from me until his next payday :lol

Never had any desire to try it again, figured I'd just quit while I was ahead and leave a good story behind

Biloxi is the armpit of America, btw
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: chronovore on March 15, 2015, 01:14:59 AM: I like poker and blackjack, but have WAY too compulsive a personality to risk gambling for real. It scares me. I’ve worked shows and events in Vegas so many times that the other employees at the Osaka company were openly jealous of my “luck,” though I never gambled.

Actually, tell a lie, my boss slipped me a $100 to go gamble once. I lost nearly all of it, then won it all back in a single hand. I cashed out and handed him his hundred back.

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on March 14, 2015, 05:21:22 PM
i once had an impossibly gorgeous girl i just met at a bar ask me to go with her to a casino at 2 am. it was so bizarre i had to say yes. she paid for everything so i ended up losing like $400 of her money, plus she bought me a bunch of expensive cocktails.

it was the most expensive "date" I've ever been on, except she wasn't interested in me in the least. she just really wanted to take a man with her to the casino at that moment and i happened to be the only one around.
This is probably my favorite socially-related post you’ve ever made.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: nudemacusers on March 15, 2015, 01:24:02 AM: yeah the table I played at had a minimum of 5, max of 50 iirc. was super awkward sitting next to totally wasted dudes losing hundreds in a dozen hands, and very clearly being not happy about it heh. I just partitioned off my original hundred hoped for the best.

this is not even getting into the really depressing slot machines, though we put a dollar in one and left with $20. :larry

and why can't i have recursively's luck. i would totally be a boytoy. :brazilcry
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 15, 2015, 01:55:09 AM: honestly, since i grew my hair out i end up not having to pay for my own drinks half the time :lol like, just last night a couple of :heart women i just met covered my tab for three glasses of good wine. i count this sort of result as 100% success in my ambitions for these excursions/encounters as drunk sex = :-X :-X :-X and i am too emotionally cowardly and lazy to aspire to a real relationship.

the gay dudes who do this can be cool too tho occasionally i'll meet someone who just won't take a hint. :-\

basically, i am a redpiller's misogynist caricature of a woman.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Trent Dole on March 15, 2015, 02:23:25 AM: Gambling's fucking stupid, but I did find it funny that Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory slot machines exist during my trip to Vegas last year. That shit doesn't go entirely against the film and book's message or anything, nope nope.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: chronovore on March 15, 2015, 03:52:08 AM: Quote from: Trent Dole on March 15, 2015, 02:23:25 AM
Gambling's fucking stupid, but I did find it funny that Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory slot machines exist during my trip to Vegas last year. That shit doesn't go entirely against the film and book's message or anything, nope nope.

I felt this way when I saw the first Star Wars slot-machines. I was like:
:fbm
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: nudemacusers on March 15, 2015, 04:04:36 AM: sure but hitting spin on a michael jackson slot machine and getting a triple shamon bonus with a moonwalk is worth it :lawd
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: ToxicAdam on March 15, 2015, 05:24:27 AM: Casinos feel a lot like malls. Massive buildings living on borrowed time due to the misguided perception of a previous generation.

Who knows? Maybe I'll change my tune when I'm 55 and overeating, orgasms and buying shit doesn't work as temporary highs anymore.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: benjipwns on March 15, 2015, 05:37:37 AM: Quote from: ToxicAdam on March 15, 2015, 05:24:27 AM
Casinos feel a lot like malls. Massive buildings living on borrowed time due to the misguided perception of a previous generation.

Who knows? Maybe I'll change my tune when I'm 55 and overeating, orgasms and buying shit doesn't work as temporary highs anymore.
You'll be there at the slot machines with your oxygen tank in the smoke filled room, maybe smoking yourself, just staring at the slots because what else do you have in life? You hate everyone else at the home. And plus if you get three 7's you get 5 extra lives that can really help in those dumb digging levels.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 15, 2015, 06:02:08 AM: > continuous gaming productivity (http://www.josephpwagner.com/habit-summit-2014)

Talk 9: The Dark Side of Habit by Natasha Dow Schull

Author of Addiction by Design: Machine Gambling in Las Vegas

◦Many people think large denomination slots are the biggest money makers, but penny slots actually bring in the most revenue.

◦There is a lot of sensationalism when discussing casino gaming, but also a lot of truth

◦Slot machines are designed to be rapid, solitary, continuous

◦Core players want to reach "The Zone" which is a trance-like state where daily demands, worries, and even sometimes bodily existence fades away

◦Addicts are not playing to win, they are playing to keep playing

◦Education is not an answer to this because the allure of winning is only the initial hook, but not the hold

◦Winning can actually be a disappointment for core players particularly in the 90s with earlier generation machines

◦They get attention, have to wait for the machine to get refilled -- all this breaks "the zone"

◦Designers today have built in features to skip the celebration animations and noises

◦"Our best customers don't want to wait..."

◦"Time on device" is the number one metric in the gaming industry, less about risk and excitement and more about continuous gaming productivity

◦The focus is on faster loops, more & longer gaming sessions

◦Change from levers to push buttons

◦The "play" should take no longer than 3 1/2 seconds per game which equals 1200 hands an hour

◦Other ways to increase time on device: better seats, sensory ergonomics like sound engineering (people want soft colors and tones (played in C)),
touch screens with relevant, specific haptic feedback

◦"The math will make them stay"

◦Random number generator mixed with algorithms See: Skinner box

◦This type of behavior can be in online MMOs (grinding out levels), or constantly cycling through Facebook photos.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 15, 2015, 06:05:11 AM: also an excuse to post something i really wanted to post in the 80s movie music thread but it annoyingly didn't quite fit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP1QXKbhqr4
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on March 15, 2015, 10:06:03 AM: I played poker last night. :yeshrug

If you don't like it you're better off anyway.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: nachobro on March 15, 2015, 10:25:50 AM: I never have been much for gambling either, though I do enjoy free drinks. So it's a toss up.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: tiesto on March 15, 2015, 10:52:55 AM: I like the atmosphere at Mohegan, and the free drinks while sitting around the cheap roulette table. I've got $300+ over the house there, but I also quit when I'm ahead.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: CatsCatsCats on March 15, 2015, 12:35:25 PM: The only gambling that I actually enjoy is poker nights with buddies, and craps. Don't get me wrong, I'll play slots when I'm in Vegas but it's a pretty empty experience.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Kara on March 15, 2015, 02:54:32 PM: Quote from: ToxicAdam on March 15, 2015, 05:24:27 AM
Casinos feel a lot like malls. Massive buildings living on borrowed time due to the misguided perception of a previous generation.

Who knows? Maybe I'll change my tune when I'm 55 and overeating, orgasms and buying shit doesn't work as temporary highs anymore.

Retail therapy. :aah
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Trent Dole on March 15, 2015, 08:33:26 PM: Quote from: tiesto on March 15, 2015, 10:52:55 AM
I like the atmosphere at Mohegan, and the free drinks while sitting around the cheap roulette table. I've got $300+ over the house there, but I also quit when I'm ahead.
I saw Nin play there, and Morrissey play at the other casino in CT. :lol
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Post by: Rman on March 15, 2015, 09:58:50 PM: What's with gambling and old people?

It's such a sad sight. Not just at casinos, but buying lotto tickets.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Rufus on March 16, 2015, 02:18:16 AM: Nothing to lose.
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Steve Contra on March 17, 2015, 08:23:16 PM: I won 10 grand drunk as fuck once, haven't gambled since :yeshrug
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Reb on March 19, 2015, 09:32:08 AM: How about gambling your future?
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Steve Contra on March 19, 2015, 12:20:57 PM: Quote from: Reb on March 19, 2015, 09:32:08 AM
How about gambling your future?
Liberal arts education :fbm
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on March 19, 2015, 12:22:09 PM: Quote from: Steve Contra on March 19, 2015, 12:20:57 PM
Quote from: Reb on March 19, 2015, 09:32:08 AM
How about gambling your future?
Liberal arts education :fbm

:neogaf
Title: Re: Just can't get into gambling
Post by: Akala on March 19, 2015, 08:37:54 PM: gambling rocks if you never play more than you can afford to lose. as a heavy drinker married to a heavy drinker, we almost always come out theoretically ahead versus a bar, and casinos in vegas are super fancy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34gogGYAnDQ