from what i gather, they took an actor who can sound coldly menacing like no other, paired him with a psychopathic robot who wants to end humanity, and turned the combo into a joss whedon quip machine. :-\
from what i gather, they took an actor who can sound coldly menacing like no other, paired him with a psychopathic robot who wants to end humanity, and turned the combo into a joss whedon quip machine. :-\
if i wanted to watch spader and rdj in a movie together i'd watch Less Than Zero again
from what i gather, they took an actor who can sound coldly menacing like no other, paired him with a psychopathic robot who wants to end humanity, and turned the combo into a joss whedon quip machine. :-\
Ultron and his plan was like way better than Loki and whatever his grand scheme was.
Hopefully this signals the slow recession of all lame ass comic book movies for a while. i blame that toby mcguire spiderman movie for setting this tired trend off (http://i.imgur.com/vf2W5gg.png)
Of course there are no stakes and its a one-sided fight. It's a superhero movie. The best fight was at the end of Spider-Man. Shit was brutal, but even then Peter won. Fuck these generic ass Marvel movies.
I hope this signals the end of both comic book movies and Joss Whedon's career. Both are long overdue.
Of course there are no stakes and its a one-sided fight. It's a superhero movie. The best fight was at the end of Spider-Man. Shit was brutal, but even then Peter won. Fuck these generic ass Marvel movies.
Still my favorite superhero fight. Peter gets tore the fuck up. Absolutely brutalized. The hits are real, wood and bricks break, not cgi dancing bullshit. Sheer will power and reliance on his most abstract power (spidey sense) is how he wins.
Fucking dickbags who forced him to write Venom into SM3. I still kind of think he either tanked that movie or just stopped giving a fuck.
Ultron and his plan was like way better than Loki and whatever his grand scheme was.
He was definitely a better villain. I agree.
The Thanos movie had better not give us a weak villain. Especially after all the build-up. These fucks also have an opportunity to use secondary villains that aren't trash mobs, since the Black Order is well established in the comics at this point.
The Thanos movie had better not give us a weak villain. Especially after all the build-up. These fucks also have an opportunity to use secondary villains that aren't trash mobs, since the Black Order is well established in the comics at this point.
Kingpin reigns as the best MCU villain yet
Kingpin reigns as the best MCU villain yet
:rejoice based D'onofrio
Andrex: IMO, if you do Venom, you need to go all out with it and center the tone around Venom and the black costume. That clearly didn't happen with SM3. The tone was all over the place, with the result that a lot of scenes didn't work at all.
It was much better than X-Men 3 though. That's still my WOAT superhero film post 2000.
And make no mistake... the rush to make that Memorial Day 2006 release date is about beating Bryan Singer to the screen. The acrimony involved in the Singer/Fox break-up is rich enough to write an entire book about, especially if it leads to the destruction of the franchise. This could turn into one of the all-time great displays of executive hubris in Hollywood. You want to know why you lost Singer to Warner Bros. and SUPERMAN in the first place? Because you took over a year to negotiate his deal to direct X-MEN 3. That should have been one of the biggest no-brainer decisions you could have ever made, but maybe you have to have a brain to make a no-brainer decision. You strung him along and strung him along and strung him along, and then when you had finally proven to him that you weren’t going to make things easy... you were too late. Alan Horn took full advantage of Bryan’s almost-fetishistic love of Donner’s SUPERMAN and your hesitancy, and he stole him from you. I don’t know what’s funnier... throwing Bryan off the lot using security guards, or the fact that you had to let him back on the lot immediately thereafter so he could shoot HOUSE for the studio.
“The idea – you open up with Alkali Lake but it’s completely barren and dried up and there are these odd reports of strange phenomena going on around the world accompanied by bright lights in the sky.”
“The idea would be that both the X-Men and the Brotherhood realize that essentially a very god-like force had entered their reality and that it was causing disruptions around the world – mutant prisons being decimated. I had pitched an idea about a fleet of cargo ships getting torn apart in the Atlantic and you found out that they were shuttling mutants as slave labor.”
“So basically you found out was that Phoenix was going round the world taking things into her own hands and that she had basically returned as a god, which they did touch upon in X3. She had viewed herself as above the conflict, that she was here to end things on her terms, she was basically sick of the fighting and she was going to take things into her own hands and she didn’t give a shit what the X-Men or the Brotherhood had to say about it.”
“The one idea that I loved, that I really wanted to do, was that Cyclops would build the Danger Room. Cyclops felt guilty, he felt that because the X-Men were too weak, they weren’t strong enough, they weren’t fast enough, that was the reason Jean died. If they were a little bit better at fighting, then she might still be alive. It was all about this guilt he had about her death and so he built the Danger Room to train them to be better. But in the end it really was about him not being able to let go of her, so that causes all the chaos and disruption in the movie. But in the end it’s about him letting her go.”
“Ultimately she kind of becomes that cosmic force that Phoenix is known to be, she choose to leave Earth and become a god, or at least a higher level of intelligence, and she goes into the cosmos possibly to kick-start life somewhere else… The final scene for me would have been her telling Cyclops or her telling the X-Men ‘I’ll be watching.’ Essentially she becomes a god.”
It's almost a shame X3 didn't tank Xmen movies enough for Fox to lose the license back to Marvel. First Class and Days of Future Past were pretty good, but just think of what could have been if they'd been able to be part of the MCU*
*accepting of course the truth that that fucking hack Whedon would never have touched them, hopefully
The fatigue is real
and superhero movies won't be as plentiful as they have been this past decade.
I would just like to point out that avengers 2 was the north America No. 2 opening of all time behind the first one. Also that with Ultron, MCU movies have now grossed more than Harry potter movies, making it the top grossing franchise (with it grossing in 7 years about 1/2 of Canada's GNP). Super Hero movies will never die and for those of you who dislike them, I will enjoy your pain for years to come.
It's almost a shame X3 didn't tank Xmen movies enough for Fox to lose the license back to Marvel. First Class and Days of Future Past were pretty good, but just think of what could have been if they'd been able to be part of the MCU*
*accepting of course the truth that that fucking hack Whedon would never have touched them, hopefully
Lololol Whedon's most revered run in comics is his work on X-Men. The entire reason Marvel risked a bunch of legal flack by using Magneto's children in AoU was because Whedon absolutely loves those characters and the X-Men in general. You're delusional if you think Whedon wouldn't go full-ham on them if they had the rights. I mean, dude even wrote an early draft of X1.
Anyways, I'm of the opinion the X-Men universe would not mesh well with the MCU. Heck they kinda barely mesh with the overall Marvel-verse in general. Events like AvX always come off as weird. X-Men work best on their own, and Bryan Singer is a better director than anybody who's ever done an MCU movie.
Plus, recasting Prof X, Magneto, Wolverine, etc.? Gtfo. (http://i.imgur.com/6mi4aBf.png)
Spider-Man? Absolutely. Fantastic Four? Sure. Daredevil? Well, fucking obviously, thank Christ they got those rights back. But X-Men? Nah, they're in good hands these days.
And Apocalypse is going to be better than every comic movie in 2016, just like Days of Future Past was last year. :aah
It's almost a shame X3 didn't tank Xmen movies enough for Fox to lose the license back to Marvel. First Class and Days of Future Past were pretty good, but just think of what could have been if they'd been able to be part of the MCU*
*accepting of course the truth that that fucking hack Whedon would never have touched them, hopefully
Lololol Whedon's most revered run in comics is his work on X-Men. The entire reason Marvel risked a bunch of legal flack by using Magneto's children in AoU was because Whedon absolutely loves those characters and the X-Men in general. You're delusional if you think Whedon wouldn't go full-ham on them if they had the rights. I mean, dude even wrote an early draft of X1.
Anyways, I'm of the opinion the X-Men universe would not mesh well with the MCU. Heck they kinda barely mesh with the overall Marvel-verse in general. Events like AvX always come off as weird. X-Men work best on their own, and Bryan Singer is a better director than anybody who's ever done an MCU movie.
Plus, recasting Prof X, Magneto, Wolverine, etc.? Gtfo. (http://i.imgur.com/6mi4aBf.png)
Spider-Man? Absolutely. Fantastic Four? Sure. Daredevil? Well, fucking obviously, thank Christ they got those rights back. But X-Men? Nah, they're in good hands these days.
And Apocalypse is going to be better than every comic movie in 2016, just like Days of Future Past was last year. :aah
Black Panther delayed because of the Spiderman deal? I thought they only had a license to use the character in one of their movies, not start him in one.
Spiderman can DIAF. I was really looking forward to Black Excellence.
Spiderman can DIAF. I was really looking forward to Black Excellence.
Fox should just capitulate and do the same for the X-men. But you know Marvel would fucking hate it because that would mean allowing Singer a lot of access to some non-X-men "X-men" like Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch's "retcon" from being Magneto's children.
Kingpin reigns as the best MCU villain yet:bow Michael Clarke Duncan :bow2
Black Panther and Spider-Man will have their MCU debuts in next year's Captain America: Civil War, fwiw.
This is text book shit, Andy. No genre is on top for too long before oversaturation leads to fatigue and a backlash till the next big thing hits. I'm not saying they'll be forever dead, but don't count on the biggest movies being superhero flicks for the next 20 years. Marvel is long overdue for a big fuck up, and DC has an overambitious clusterfuck from the get go. It's bound to happen sometime soon. I'm not even a hater, but even I'm pretty tired of too many superhero shit coming out.
You want to know why you lost Singer to Warner Bros. and SUPERMAN in the first place? Because you took over a year to negotiate his deal to direct X-MEN 3. That should have been one of the biggest no-brainer decisions you could have ever made, but maybe you have to have a brain to make a no-brainer decision.
Black Panther and Spider-Man will have their MCU debuts in next year's Captain America: Civil War, fwiw.
wait who is playing spider-man? I'm pretty sure I read the guy from 42 is black panther.
Quote from:Some guy]You want to know why you lost Singer to Warner Bros. and SUPERMAN in the first place? Because you took over a year to negotiate his deal to direct X-MEN 3. That should have been one of the biggest no-brainer decisions you could have ever made, but maybe you have to have a brain to make a no-brainer decision.
Except that Superman Returns was hot garbage.
The dude's making it sound like Warner Bros. lucked out by getting him, even though the end result wasn't anything to write home about. It's like someone bragging about getting M.Night Shymyalann before he produced the Village.
What exactly is "Buffyization" when used to talk about Whedon?
What exactly is "Buffyization" when used to talk about Whedon?
On the media side, this might be viewed as the Buffyization of horror (from Joss Whedon’s highly complex and successful TV series Buffy the Vampire Slayer, 1997-2003), where traditional horror tropes may be repurposed as comedy or even romance, to much commercial success in the case of Buffy and certain of its successors.
Yes they care so much about the universe that they make movies where the continuity is continuously fucked up. No, not even the garbage that is Days of Future Past fixes anything. Simply saying X-men 3 did'nt happen dosen't fix shit. I mean why the heck would stopping the sentinel program(something that never effected anything before) fix things with Jean Grey and whatnot? Espically since you made it clear Stryker is still going to do the same shit.
Sony reboots Spider-Man like it's a bodily function. Fox cares a lot more about their universe they've been building for 15+ years. And X-Men wouldn't work in the MCU without a reboot.
Can't think of a better villain in Marvel movies off the top of my head. Spader was incredible. The first scene with Ultron and his last scene are A++, the rest is ok/solid with some good bits.Ultron, the best MCU villian yet? I sorta agree (I liked Guy Pearce's swarm in IM3) If that's the best they've had so far over what is now nearing a dozen films then that's a real crisis they've got brewing, just in the basic sort of narrative sense. James Bond will never die, but that doesn't mean the villian doesn't get to take out plenty of satellite characters along the way, even sometime very important ones (M and Felix Lighter have both been casualties in Bond films).
Aside from Loki, I guess they didn't kill Abomination, but they largely seem to pretend the Hulk movie - which also set up the Leader - doesn't exist.
Joss deleted his twitter because people told him he once again did a shitty job with Age of Ultron.
Um....I wasn't aware that RDJ is the only actor ever who can play Iron Man/Tony Stark.Why would Stark pass Iron Man unto someone else? There's no reason for that to happen.
To sell toys.
If RDJ ever wants to stop, Marvel and Disney have a million reasons to keep IRON MAN on the screen.
What exactly is "Buffyization" when used to talk about Whedon?
Characters interacting primarily through one liners.
Joss deleted his twitter because people told him he once again did a shitty job with Age of Ultron.
2. It wouldn't work since Fox is keeping their X-universe going since 2000. Maybe after Apocalypse since there's rumors Fox will finally do a hard-reboot then, but I don't see why they would since they now have younger versions of everybody (hopefully on lockdown for multiple movies.)
Age of Ultron was not my favorite. I would not recommend it. The last time I checked on Rotten Tomatoes it had a score of 72. I would give it a 46. Maybe lower. Maybe a 39.
They had a lot of the same jokes repeating each other.
Well Flyod and I are both mysigonsits, so we have that in common. But that seems like a dumb insult considering if you yourself could read you'd see I was talking about only if they kept the universe going.Um....I wasn't aware that RDJ is the only actor ever who can play Iron Man/Tony Stark.Why would Stark pass Iron Man unto someone else? There's no reason for that to happen.
To sell toys.
If RDJ ever wants to stop, Marvel and Disney have a million reasons to keep IRON MAN on the screen.
Oh wait he's not. They'll just replace him. There's no need to make another character.
I feel like maybe you're as good at reading as Floyd Mayweather because I was very clearly talking about if they didn't want to reboot the entire universe they could have Tony pick a successor. But they can just recast him anyway, you may say. Great point. Imagine how annoyed the viewing public would be. RDJ as Tony Stark is at this point iconic and unless they waited years and years to cast a new Stark, it would be more marketable and easier to have a new Iron Man.
You were responding to me initially? I can't tell if you're just unknowingly stupid or just trying to start shit with me. Either way, it's real annoying.I was responding to the idea that the series has to be rebooted or whatever just because RDJ leaves. You're the one that's getting flippant for whatever rason.
You can attempt to dispute this all you'd like, but the Marvel Cinematic Universe is built on the back of Robert Downey Jr. If it wasn't for him and his perfect portrayal of Tony Stark there wouldn't be a universe. Again, feel free to tell me that somebody else could've done just as well but that isn't the case in the reality we live in. Nowhere did I say or doubt that RDJ is a huge part of the franchise. Though I don't think it's an absolute that The MCU wouldn't have been a hit if it didn't have him. Iron Man 1 was a good movie with a good perfromance from RDJ. Yet, I don't even think any of the Iron Man movies are the best of the series.
The character dynamic and Avenger storylines all revolve around Tony Stark. He is the center of the show. He is the common thread that pulls everyone together. Why is this? Downey is the most charismatic and charming person in the line up. Nobody comes close. It's why he gets paid the most. It's why Iron Man is the most produced and marketed Avenger.Again, this is all pointless stuff being said. No one doubts that RDJ is the most popular aspect of the series and it will no doubt be tough to follow his absence. Again, where did I say that it would be? Oh right I didn't.
Recasting him without rebooting the entire universe is throwing that all away. Imagine what that does to an audience. Imagine what that does to your cast.How? At this point all of the other characters are well established and popular in thier own right. Iron man itself is a popular character. You really think the Avengers can't survive without him. Then why the hell have Guardians of the Galaxy and Captain America 2 been super successful? Why is Daredevil getting so much praise? Marvel itself is a brand on it's own. RDJ may have helped built it, but the brand is more then able to stand on it's own now. It's really asinine to think that a Marvel movie with iron Man will somehow fail just because Iron Man is'nt played by RDJ. Espically since for some reason you think people will be more accepting of iron being played by someone not called Tony Stark. Which is'nt even far removed from simply recasting Tony Stark. It result's in the same conclusion.
When Downey decides to call it quits, if Marvel and Disney decide to continue the universe without reboot and wish to have IRON MAN as a continuing presence, it would make more sense and be safer to have Tony Stark choose a successor. Not to mention leaves the door open for cameos which would be big business in itself.Yes it makes more sense to have Iron Man be not iron man then attempt to have someone try thier hand at Tony Stark. Audiences won't be able to handle it even though they've been able to handle it for pretty much every film character ever.
And bringing up Bond as an example of recasting being fine? You are aware that when George Lazenby took over for Sean Connery after he announced his retirement from the series, it was an absolute disaster causing the studio to throw hilarious amounts of money at Connery to return to the series, correct?Oh you mean the series that was able to bounce back when it cast Roger More who was already established as Tv's the saint. How about Pierce who was already well known as another character as well. Audiences didn't seem to mind when that happen. But yes I guess the point is moot because one time out of 4 wasn't successful. Great logic.
So that feels like a pretty stupid counter example; but in every instance of me seeing your posts or interacting with you, you've come off like an idiot sooooo~I guess if you're an idiot who chooses to ignore the several other examples in the series. Then sure. Why you feel the need to be a douche I don't know.
pretty heated for talking about whether they'll recast iron man, guys
Get into fights over who will play a role in a movie that doesn't exist yet and won't be released for 4-5 years, brehs.
while we're at it who gives a shit if the suicide squad movie sucks
"oh man they ruined captain boomerang"
while we're at it who gives a shit if the suicide squad movie sucks
"oh man they ruined captain boomerang"
As one of the fifteen actual fans of SS, this shit is pissing me off already.
while we're at it who gives a shit if the suicide squad movie sucks
"oh man they ruined captain boomerang"
As one of the fifteen actual fans of SS, this shit is pissing me off already.
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lets get heated about disney films y'all :expert
I know I'm reading a lot into the fact that man has no neck, but maybe he wouldn't have to worry about heart attacks if he spent less time following a fictional universe on the internet and more time being active.
while we're at it who gives a shit if the suicide squad movie sucks
"oh man they ruined captain boomerang"
As one of the fifteen actual fans of SS, this shit is pissing me off already.
Always presumed Whedon's "strong female characters" were based on the sort of fantasy girlfriend he wished he had in high school to protect him from bullies.
Always presumed Whedon's "strong female characters" were based on the sort of fantasy girlfriend he wished he had in high school to protect him from bullies.
I think you had a generation of men that jacked off to Barbarella as teenage boys and they have been writing to that muse ever since. (James Cameron is another one)
Always presumed Whedon's "strong female characters" were based on the sort of fantasy girlfriend he wished he had in high school to protect him from bullies.
I think you had a generation of men that jacked off to Barbarella as teenage boys and they have been writing to that muse ever since. (James Cameron is another one)
I don't really mind the artists doing that but the (largely male) fandom are a bit grating with that when they insist that giving a woman an assault rifle is the zenith of characterization and progressism. Then again it is unsurprising considering how much certain "nerds" (or whatever the correct term) stan so hard that we should take very seriously their favorite subset of pop culture.
The Dirty Pair : feminism in action !
In Esquire’s new interview with supermodel-turned-Michael-Bay-fetish Rosie Huntington-Whiteley, the actor reveals that Miller didn’t want to just fill in the backstories of his movie’s abused women on the run with some computer-generated tales of woe. No, he wanted real-deal horrifying, so he flew in author and performer Eve Ensler, famous for her work The Vagina Monologues, to class things up. As Huntington-Whiteley explains, Ensler made sure that everyone knew just what kind of mindset could come out of the awful experiences to which their characters were subjected.
I know I'm reading a lot into the fact that man has no neck, but maybe he wouldn't have to worry about heart attacks if he spent less time following a fictional universe on the internet and more time being active.
Been so out of the loop I had no idea this was even coming out until the other bore thread about it. I can't tell if I'm personally experiencing comic book movie fatigue or if I'm just starting to get burnt out on big Hollywood movies entirely. I'm not all that excited about Star Wars or Batman v Superman either. Only one I'm even marginally looking forward to is Fast and Furious which I should finally have time to see next week.