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Title: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2015, 04:45:53 PM
http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/06/guide-to-triggering/
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Editors Note: Like this phenomenal article, Everyday Feminism definitely believes in giving people a heads up about material that might provoke our reader’s trauma. However, we use the phrase “content warning” instead of “trigger warning,” as the word “trigger” relies on and evokes violent weaponry imagery. This could be re-traumatizing for folks who have suffered military, police, and other forms of violence. So, while warnings are so necessary and the points in this article are right on, we strongly encourage the term “content warning” instead of “trigger warning.”

Content Warning: This article discusses triggering in detail and mentions common topics of triggering (sexual assault, anxiety, health anxiety, depression, death, non-specific fears and phobias).

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What Sorts of Things Can Be Triggers?

Anything. Absolutely anything.
Consider yourself contented.

Wait, that isn't going to work.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2015, 04:46:47 PM
Everyday Feminism is an awful  website.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2015, 04:48:45 PM
Everyday Feminism is an awful  website.
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WHAT'S HOT RIGHT NOW
Your Child Should Never Be Forced to Hug Anyone (Yes, Including a Relative) – Here Are 7 Reasons Why

Circumcision Is a Feminist Issue (And Here Are 5 Reasons Not to Do It to Your Child)

White Privilege, Explained in One Simple Comic

I Didn’t Know My Boyfriend Was Abusive Since He Never Hit Me
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Kara on June 12, 2015, 04:50:29 PM
I like that trigger warnings are roundly mocked on the internet despite having some actual basis on fact while spoiler tags get more and more ludicrous despite spoilers being a fictitious concept. Makes you think.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2015, 04:50:32 PM
That website encapsulates white feminism (tm). While feminists are reclaiming the word "slut" and telling people how circumcision is a feminist issue, all the other girls are trying to defend their right as human.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 12, 2015, 04:54:45 PM
Isn't circumcision a feminist issue? In terms of female circumcision.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Himu on June 12, 2015, 04:57:59 PM
The video linked was related to male circumcision.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2015, 04:59:09 PM
I like that trigger warnings are roundly mocked on the internet despite having some actual basis on fact while spoiler tags get more and more ludicrous despite spoilers being a fictitious concept. Makes you think.
Thanks for spoiling reality for me buddy, I hadn't even finished the first half of it.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 12, 2015, 05:04:55 PM
I like that trigger warnings are roundly mocked on the internet despite having some actual basis on fact while spoiler tags get more and more ludicrous despite spoilers being a fictitious concept. Makes you think.

Serious issues like PTSD are a joke, while the content of the previous night's Game of Thrones is something worth punching a man over.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 12, 2015, 05:10:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6YeExiyfE0
(http://i.imgur.com/SS7MvlJ.gif)
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 12, 2015, 05:12:13 PM
And what about if I'm a victim of seeing web content that haunts me?
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: thisismyusername on June 12, 2015, 05:13:17 PM
Isn't circumcision a feminist issue? In terms of female circumcision.

Yeah, but most people hear "circumcision" they think "male" since female circumcision is only an issue in like... Africa.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Kara on June 12, 2015, 05:18:11 PM
I like that trigger warnings are roundly mocked on the internet despite having some actual basis on fact while spoiler tags get more and more ludicrous despite spoilers being a fictitious concept. Makes you think.
Thanks for spoiling reality for me buddy, I hadn't even finished the first half of it.

How do you know it's not even half over if you haven't spoiled the ending already? :hitler
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2015, 05:23:12 PM
I looked at the list of episodes page on wikipedia.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: benjipwns on June 12, 2015, 05:26:58 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/SS7MvlJ.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/3IIJRAR.png)
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: meeb on June 13, 2015, 10:49:52 AM
That website encapsulates white feminism (tm). While feminists are reclaiming the word "slut" and telling people how circumcision is a feminist issue, all the other girls are trying to defend their right as human.

I keep seeing crap like this, but I've never seen this crap substantiated.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 13, 2015, 11:06:22 AM
You haven't heard of the slut march?
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Trent Dole on June 13, 2015, 01:32:53 PM
What is the reclamation of slut? Celebrating promiscuity? Look promiscuous men are fucking disgusting too even if their behavior is more socially excepted/inexplicably celebrated by idiots. YOU'RE FUCKING DOING IT WRONG, FEMINISTS :gun
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Kara on June 13, 2015, 01:38:57 PM
It's to challenge the assumption that a woman's appearance or behavior has any bearing on whether or not she "deserved" to get raped. A Canadian cop said something like, "If y'alls women don't want to get raped you should stop dressing like sluts." Truly we live in enlightened times where challenging such an assumption necessitates protests and sloganeering.

As for reclamation, I don't think the use of slut by white feminists is analogous to the project to reclaim queer, which has both academic and taxonomical functions currently.

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Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: meeb on June 13, 2015, 03:53:24 PM
You haven't heard of the slut march?

No. I mean I have never seen how things like a slut march somehow only white women to participate or only benefit white women.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: nachobro on June 13, 2015, 04:01:39 PM
Then replace "white" with "first world". Cause really, no one should give a fuck about the misuse of "slut" or "bossy" or an ad with some broad in a bikini when women in the Middle East are getting stoned to death for the heinous crimes of being raped, going to school, or driving.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Rufus on June 13, 2015, 04:06:04 PM
Hope you don't give a fuck about anything then, because there's always somone worse off out there.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: nachobro on June 13, 2015, 04:24:16 PM
Sure, same excuse always given. Maybe focus on the thing that is objectively worse (people dying) than people saying "bossy". Start from the top and work down to the small shit.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Rufus on June 13, 2015, 04:27:39 PM
So don't give to the homeless because Syria is a warzone, got it.

The argument stinks; always has, always will. It's worthless.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: nachobro on June 13, 2015, 04:29:08 PM
You can do both. But language policing is neither. It's a waste of fucking time. Same goes for those slutwalks. It's the epitome of first world short-sightedness. Same goes for every single one of the headlines on that Everyday Feminism site. Get some perspective, white bitches.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: mormapope on June 13, 2015, 04:36:59 PM
Was about to say, its a debate of perspective versus priority. Perspective will influence one's priority, buts its up to a person to question if the priorities are warranted in the first place. Caring about anything that someone else doesn't care about is selfish, we're all selfish in some capacity.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: nachobro on June 13, 2015, 04:39:22 PM
No prob, dothead. Just maybe kick a few bucks back to a worthwhile women's charity as penance each time and we can call it even

e: or maybe if we're going to pretend all problems are equal, never make fun of "first world problems" since being called "bossy" and getting killed for reading a textbook are equally important.

e2: is dothead a slur for indians? i don't know of any so i had to google
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 13, 2015, 04:48:38 PM
Hope you don't give a fuck about anything then, because there's always somone worse off out there.
I know. I'm just worried about Patricia Arquette making more money.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Rufus on June 13, 2015, 05:27:09 PM
e: or maybe if we're going to pretend all problems are equal, never make fun of "first world problems" since being called "bossy" and getting killed for reading a textbook are equally important.
Nobody is saying everything is equally important, but that not all concerns can be immediately invalidated. The "african children are starving" argument is most often used to shut down discussions, not to make an actual point.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Mandark on June 13, 2015, 07:01:48 PM
Oh hey, it's "the poors have refrigerators and should shut up," only with degrees of freedom from sexual violence rather than durable goods.  Sweet.

Of course people are going to focus a lot of their activism and advocacy in communities and institutions where they already have a stake.  It's pragmatic as well as personal.  Your college has a really shitty way of dealing with rape allegations?  There's a shot you can actually change that.  Girls born in Taliban-controlled areas of Afghanistan are going to be horribly oppressed?  Not only are the odds you can help pretty infinitesimal, but that "help" would probably come in the form of vast amounts of aircraft ordnance, which has a rather sketchy record for improving people's lives*.

nacho, can't remember you posting terribly much about the plight of women in the third world.  Maybe that's from me being unobservant or from being off the forum for a while.  But if you are bringing these issues up primarily or exclusively to tell American women they have it good enough that they should shut up...  that wouldn't be a great look.

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Which isn't to say American and other first-world feminists don't bother with those issues at all.  There was a kerfuffle when Code Pink took a position against withdrawal from Afghanistan, on the grounds that peacekeeping troops were important for protecting the women and girls there, for example.  Plus all sorts of feminist organizations making statements and releasing papers about global women's issues, which usually get noted on A17, or wherever the paper runs its Also Around The World bullet points.
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Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: nachobro on June 13, 2015, 07:52:37 PM
American women do have it pretty damn good if the best they can come up with is language policing and moaning about advertisements.

But whatever, clearly I'm in the wrong on this so I apologize for offending.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 13, 2015, 08:08:55 PM
"X is worse than Y, therefore do not worry about Y" is just bad logic, sorry.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 13, 2015, 11:22:16 PM
But saying that then means that everything is important strikes me as equally bad logic
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 13, 2015, 11:33:05 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51F4L8SwzBL.jpg)

You fucked up, Neil Gaiman :bolo
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Rufus on June 13, 2015, 11:59:55 PM
But saying that then means that everything is important
How so?

To clarify: "X is worse than Y, therefore do not worry about Y" isn't actually suited to answer what is worse, or more important, or more pressing, etc. so I'm a bit confused how you arrive at "everything is equally important".
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Mandark on June 14, 2015, 12:13:11 AM
American women do have it pretty damn good if the best they can come up with is language policing and moaning about advertisements.

Well yeah, if we're just going to ignore the ubiquity of sexual assault (and associated harassment, stalking, etc.), then sure, they're just language policing.  As Kara explained upthread, the problem with the word as it's generally used is it represents a way of thinking which blames and stigmatizes victims of rape and exculpates the actual offenders.  Do you think that rape isn't a real problem, or just that it's completely independent of how society views women's sexuality?



But saying that then means that everything is important strikes me as equally bad logic

Nobody is saying everything is equally important, but that not all concerns can be immediately invalidated. The "african children are starving" argument is most often used to shut down discussions, not to make an actual point.
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Kara on June 14, 2015, 01:58:14 AM
Why do people always gotta be down for centralization when it comes to allocating resources to tackle social issues but not when it comes to allocating resources for agriculture or manufacturing heavy machinery. :goty2
Title: Re: Content Warning: "Trigger warning" could be triggering to victims of violence.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 14, 2015, 02:01:19 AM
I warned you about factories bro