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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 08:33:06 AM

Title: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 08:33:06 AM
looks  pretty good :yeshrug



1080 60fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRPpamFLrLw

Hell
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXhpg9Qx6l0
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Trailer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NteAPGprDJk
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grimdark factor is about a lite 7, could be better.   :yeshrug

im getting this regardless


Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2015, 09:00:51 AM
I'm pretty excited to play it, looks smooth as butter and generally interested in just being about a dude who runs around really fast blasting demons. Nothing there for me to complain about.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 09:06:38 AM
im happy they didnt try to inject some story bs into it like they did with wolfenstein, those are two games where the story should be self-explanatory.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: headwalk on June 15, 2015, 09:10:25 AM
really doesn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn2J4Loe57g

+ enough graphics to get the plebs to fork out = a decent enough new doom with enough yuks to still sell.

compare and contrast.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2015, 09:13:03 AM
Quote from: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 09:06:38 AM
im happy they didnt try to inject some story bs into it like they did with wolfenstein, those are two games where the story should be self-explanatory.

Wolfenstein was a pretty good game when it wasn't getting bogged down by story and awful stealth zones. Seriously, stealth? In Wolfenstein? :comeon
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 09:18:57 AM
oh boy here come the brutal doom stans   ::)
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: mjemirzian on June 15, 2015, 09:21:45 AM
I liked it, looks like a good mix of old school doom and modern stuff like executions.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: headwalk on June 15, 2015, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 09:18:57 AM
oh boy here come the brutal doom stans   ::)

brutal doom is a shallow comparison to the original which misses a lot of the nuance, but compared with this plodding whiteboard tripe it's the cacademon's bollocks.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 09:23:41 AM
bulletstorm did have some mighty fine gore.   he did do that one, jumping/falling head stomp that was neat
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: qq more on June 15, 2015, 09:28:51 AM
I'm a bit iffy about the art direction. Some of the areas from what I've seen is just way too brown and little else outside of blood. Gameplay itself looks okayish though (although kinda slow), I might get the game if it's really good.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: zomgee on June 15, 2015, 09:33:44 AM
That demo was like watching a tennis match.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 10:44:23 AM
some of the best stuff about classic doom was the quick and smooth movement speed and the semi open-ended maps with lots of room for dodging and running around. that feeling of darting around while you crowd control mobs and pick enemies off one by one is something that has very rarely been properly emulated in fps games. it looks like they're trying to emulate that, so I'm pretty hyped.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: toku on June 15, 2015, 01:24:25 PM
brutal doom is garbage
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Oblivion on June 15, 2015, 03:26:28 PM
Is Carmack still on this?
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 03:30:55 PM
nope he went to work on oculus
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: demi on June 15, 2015, 03:50:25 PM
Game is beastly. Crowd went nuts during the demo. Not a fan of the loot pinatas or the odd ouble jump but whatevs.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2015, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: Oblivion on June 15, 2015, 03:26:28 PM
Is Carmack still on this?

The engine is being developed by European Carmack.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: duckman2000 on June 16, 2015, 03:32:12 PM
This is just beautiful
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: chronovore on June 16, 2015, 07:47:34 PM
Now we know what happened to all those piņatas we sent out in Viva Piņata: they went to Hell.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: sarslip on June 17, 2015, 07:57:12 AM
chainsaw gif
http://gfycat.com/CrispKindlyFlies
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: chronovore on June 17, 2015, 07:57:57 AM
Quote from: sarslip on June 17, 2015, 07:57:12 AM
chainsaw gif
http://gfycat.com/CrispKindlyFlies

Moist.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: sarslip on June 17, 2015, 08:14:58 AM
if Doom is disturbing people, it's heading in the right direction IMO.  Doom 1 is cartoony in hindsight, but at the time, i remember thinking its graphics were amazing

also i feel like lots of games have done cartoony violence too
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2015, 08:26:47 AM
This feels like a deja vu of the MK discussion.

Game looked a certain way due to limitations, they were definitely aiming for something moody and scary imho in the originals.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: chronovore on June 17, 2015, 08:36:08 AM
Quote from: Premium Lager on June 17, 2015, 08:26:47 AM
This feels like a deja vu of the MK discussion.

Game looked a certain way due to limitations, they were definitely aiming for something moody and scary imho in the originals.

Yeah, I'm in complete agreement. Looking back at the games is not the same as what they evoked at the time of their introduction. Mortal Kombat was stunningly realistic, with video-frame sprites and a wealth of gore and blood. it felt dangerous. DOOM, at the time, felt like ALIEN and a zombie movie mashed together by Satan, and it was just so evocative. It's stunning how much our minds filled in the primitive artwork.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Positive Touch on June 17, 2015, 01:33:59 PM
doom was fucking terrifying when I was a kid. glowing pentagrams, blood rivers, mutilated bodies strung up, walks made of muscles and spines. yeah it wasn't photorealistic but the graphics (and ambient sounds) were way better than anything else at the time. even if it's just a low rez cartoony image, you could tell what they were going for and it was creepy.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2015, 04:32:52 PM
Quote from: chronovore on June 17, 2015, 08:36:08 AM
Looking back at the games is not the same as what they evoked at the time of their introduction.

This. Doom was dark and evil at the time. It was the bad boy of gaming at that point. To look back at it now and to try to make it seem like looney tunes violence is not the proper analysis. Same with MK as you point out.

It's fine to say realistic graphics make a person question some of the things you might enjoy compared with less realistic graphics.That's an individual choice. I just think the argument that tonally from a creator's perspective that today's game designers are sadists and yesterday's designers were only concerned with making cute pixel art is an insult at best and bullshit at worst. Doom and MK pushed the envelope for their time. And to not expect the same from modern doom or mk is very odd when that's a large part of the original appeal of the franchise.

Which is a completely different argument from whether I think this Doom captures the spirit of the original games when it comes to gameplay.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: toku on June 17, 2015, 04:54:43 PM
All this gore talk and Tripwire revealed at e3 that KF2 is getting NVIDIA Flex support for maximum goopage:
http://gfycat.com/PracticalLastGnu
https://youtu.be/I3kTewIMAE0

:mouf
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Positive Touch on June 17, 2015, 05:28:10 PM
:umad :umad :umad
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2015, 05:33:10 PM
Quote from: Dufus on June 17, 2015, 05:05:52 PM
jesus why the fuck do I even bother posting about game design here



Probably because you aren't talking about actual game design meaning gameplay but instead talking about graphic design which are separate disciplines.

I don't think that Doom demo evokes gameplay wise what I felt when I played original Doom. But that's debatable depending on the person.

I wouldn't even disagree that if you are talking about design aesthetics, that new Doom doesn't necessarily 100% evoke old doom.

But instead you went into a morals argument about what is tasteless and what isn't tasteless trying to rewrite history about what the original doom was going for definitively. So yeah, you were wrong.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2015, 06:44:08 PM
It's not like anyone rolled their eyes at him, they made lengthy and thoughtful posts. I don't get why he's being a dipshit about it.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: chronovore on June 18, 2015, 12:54:40 AM
Quote from: Dufus on June 17, 2015, 03:00:29 PM
Eh just because it's cartoony doesn't mean it can't be scary. Lots of srs animu that is scary. I thought some scenes in Akira were pretty :holeup and Akira is a cartoon sooo :yeshrug
Quote from: Dufus on June 17, 2015, 05:05:52 PM
jesus why the fuck do I even bother posting about game design here

Enjoy your shitty overhyped bug infested Doom game feggits
Akira is hand-drawn and hand-painted animation with no limitation to its processing power/framerate, VRAM, resolution. They can and did show everything they chose to show. Compared with other cel-shaded/traditional animation, it still looks exceptional today. Cel animation, as a medium, has not largely changed. (I am eschewing comment on CG movies, e.g. Toy Story vs. Tangled)

The best PC hardware available to consumers at the time was pushed to its limits to show what DOOM had, and it was the most visually realistic gaming experience we had yet seen. It was clear what the visuals implied: cyber-hell, and you are stuck in it, fighting for your life. Id wasn't going for a cartoony look, they were making sacrifices which now look cartoony compared to less technologically limited games.

Your interpretation is fundamentally incorrect. Try to maintain some respect for people who actually know what they're talking about.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 18, 2015, 02:46:17 AM
What a dufus
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 18, 2015, 03:08:42 AM
Quote from: Dufus on June 17, 2015, 05:05:52 PM
jesus why the fuck do I even bother posting about game design here

Enjoy your shitty overhyped bug infested Doom game feggits
Welcome to a discussion on thebore.
Title: Re: E3 is slaved - DOOM
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on June 18, 2015, 03:47:26 AM
Quote from: Dufus on June 17, 2015, 05:05:52 PM
jesus why the fuck do I even bother posting about game design here

Enjoy your shitty overhyped bug infested Doom game feggits
Quote from: Rahxephon91 on June 18, 2015, 03:08:42 AM
Welcome to a discussion on thebore.

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