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Title: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Eschaton on June 15, 2015, 09:19:41 AM: http://www.twitch.tv/pcgamer

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List of companies supposed to present at this thing

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AMD
ARENANET
BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT
BOHEMIA INTERACTIVE
CCP GAMES
CLIFF BLESZINSKI
CLOUD IMPERIUM GAMES
CREATIVE ASSEMBLY
DEAN HALL
DEVOLVER
FRICTIONAL GAMES
FULLBRIGHT
NEXON
PARADOX INTERACTIVE
PIXEL TITANS
SCS SOFTWARE
SPLASH DAMAGE
SQUARE ENIX
TRIPWIRE INTERACTIVE
XBOX

lol no valve :gaben
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 09:22:25 AM: cant wait for gaf to go down :lol
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: mjemirzian on June 15, 2015, 09:25:32 AM: Glad to see more up front support for PC this gen, including JP devs who wouldn't touch it before.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 09:33:28 AM: (http://i.giphy.com/xTiTnCLj29FdoARTnW.gif) lol at these console stan gifs
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 09:43:51 AM: Quote from: Esch on June 15, 2015, 09:22:10 AM
Xbox being present at a PC gaming show and Valve being absent :dead :stahp

Like Valve makes games, though. :smug

Still, it's weird they aren't there to show off the Steam controller.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 15, 2015, 10:08:27 AM: Cliffy B, Peter Molyneux, Dennis Dyack and Derek Smart present
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Post by: Yulwei on June 15, 2015, 10:18:08 AM: I want that new Diablo expansion already. Also, I wonder what the hell Nexon is going to show off
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Post by: Joe Molotov on June 15, 2015, 10:19:56 AM: Valve doesn't come to you, you go to Valve. :gaben
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: archie4208 on June 15, 2015, 10:25:01 AM: Quote from: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 09:33:28 AM
(http://i.giphy.com/xTiTnCLj29FdoARTnW.gif) lol at these console stan gifs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGGfnLBTLdY
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Positive Touch on June 15, 2015, 10:52:11 AM: Quote from: Esch on June 15, 2015, 09:22:10 AM
Xbox being present at a PC gaming show and Valve being absent :dead :stahp

valve must have mountains of gameplay content that has been created for various projects but never released. I can't imagine what their office culture is like but it must be the easiest place in the world to work for.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: huckleberry on June 15, 2015, 10:55:33 AM: Would have been nice for Valve to have had at least a hands-on with the Steam Link and/or the new controller.

I'm going to buy it either way but still.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Take My Breh Away on June 15, 2015, 10:57:41 AM: Valve won't be there at all

Volvo will be there since SCS will be showing off the next ETS2 Expansion and American Truck Sim

#TheDualities :lawd
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: fizzel on June 15, 2015, 04:50:18 PM: Quote from: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 09:33:28 AM
(http://i.giphy.com/xTiTnCLj29FdoARTnW.gif) lol at these console stan gifs

An adult made this.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2015, 04:57:01 PM: Quote from: sarslip on June 15, 2015, 09:33:28 AM
(http://i.giphy.com/xTiTnCLj29FdoARTnW.gif) lol at these console stan gifs

:cac
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: naff on June 15, 2015, 07:36:22 PM: reckon the leaked pricepoints for new AMD GPUs are legit? totes happy with my current gpu, but it's still the most interesting part of the conference for me :neogaf

their new architecture and price does seem v. good

Gigabyte (delivery date: June 18)
Gigabyte R9 390X 8GB Gaming G1   € 499.90 / $ 389.99
Gigabyte R9 390 Gaming G1 8GB   € 419.90 / $ 329.99
Gigabyte R9 380 Gaming G1 4GB   € 289.90 / $ 235.99
Gigabyte R9 380 WindForce 2x OC 2GB   € 259.90 / $ 205.99
Gigabyte R7 370 WindForce 2x OC 2GB   € 179.90 / $ 134.99

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-eu-pricing-leaked-sapphire-msi-gigabyte-graphics-cards/
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 07:43:50 PM: That 390 tho

:leon

I have a 280 in my current set up, and I like it just fine
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: huckleberry on June 15, 2015, 07:47:33 PM: The 390 8GB has my name written all over it. Been waiting for a decent upgrade to my 660.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: naff on June 15, 2015, 09:15:04 PM: same, 280x is still great. don't think i'll want an upgrade until i start playing VR stuff.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: fizzel on June 15, 2015, 09:26:28 PM: Just ordered a 290x for £207, i love rebrands.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 10:42:51 PM: So, what was shown at this? Didn't it happen at the same time as the Sony conference?
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 10:55:41 PM: Quote from: Esch on June 15, 2015, 10:43:41 PM
Quote from: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 10:42:51 PM
So, what was shown at this? Didn't it happen at the same time as the Sony conference?

son, please read. it's tomorrow :iface

Oh, you're right. Got my dates mixed up. :lol :'( :snoop
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Your Stalker on June 16, 2015, 02:36:27 AM: Quote from: Butt Seriously on June 15, 2015, 07:36:22 PM
reckon the leaked pricepoints for new AMD GPUs are legit? totes happy with my current gpu, but it's still the most interesting part of the conference for me :neogaf

their new architecture and price does seem v. good

Gigabyte (delivery date: June 18)
Gigabyte R9 390X 8GB Gaming G1   € 499.90 / $ 389.99
Gigabyte R9 390 Gaming G1 8GB   € 419.90 / $ 329.99
Gigabyte R9 380 Gaming G1 4GB   € 289.90 / $ 235.99
Gigabyte R9 380 WindForce 2x OC 2GB   € 259.90 / $ 205.99
Gigabyte R7 370 WindForce 2x OC 2GB   € 179.90 / $ 134.99

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-eu-pricing-leaked-sapphire-msi-gigabyte-graphics-cards/

i'm p sure those are just rebrands of the 200 series
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 16, 2015, 02:39:45 AM: No CDPR? No Valve?
Yeah fuck this shit, it'll be just r/PCMustardRace pandering

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Please Poles, be there and bless me with W3 expansion info
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Edit:
Oh wait, CA and SE?
In for the latter announcing FFXV on PC and some other PC ports.
Tears please.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on June 16, 2015, 03:21:32 AM: Quote from: OnlyRegret on June 16, 2015, 02:39:45 AM
No CDPR?

Fuck. No Cyberpunk 2077(http://i.imgur.com/JAVsJ4Z.png)
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 16, 2015, 03:32:11 AM: Yeah I dont think they will show us more of Cyberpunk before the last Expansion of the Witcher is out next year.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: pilonv1 on June 16, 2015, 06:18:29 AM: Can't wait for Gaben to make a shock entrance to announce Half Life 3
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Fragamemnon on June 16, 2015, 10:04:18 AM: I can't wait for Paradox to show off some new set of sliders in Hearts of Iron 4 and for the audience to cheer wildly. Improved factory automation and automated partisan management, PC wins E3.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: thisismyusername on June 16, 2015, 11:27:33 AM: Yeah, that's new X-com alright. First three minutes in and I'm like "yeah, there's no way this isn't coming to consoles." The movement seems the same as the last one. Just better keyboard/mouse controlling in the UI.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2015, 11:34:24 AM: The only things that bothers me with XCOM2 is how much the whole cinematic moments and cut-ins are present, but that first mission looks like a tutorial... Generally the game is not at his finest in the CG either, less would be more there. The only good thing the remake brought there was the eerie bald dude.

Otherwise I like what I see. Enemies redesign, mechs still in, manual evac zone, carrying people. I like the futurist setting, a tad XCOM meets Syndicate, but it's maybe a bit bland. I suspect that may be because they brought back all procedural maps. The whole procedural thing is really what I am looking forward into, getting it right would mean that the game could have infinite replayability... If the strategy layer is fixed.

EDIT : The whole enemy pod activation seems to have been tinkered on as well, but it is hard to say with the demo.

I didn't stay in for the pep talk, did they mention anything about the Geoscape parts ?

XCUM : The real megaton which doesn't just rely on nostalgia.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: fizzel on June 16, 2015, 12:04:20 PM: Quote from: fizzel on June 15, 2015, 09:26:28 PM
Just ordered a 290x for £207, i love rebrands.

Got it.

It's frighteningly fast for the money. headwalk/ghst you were in the market for a new GPU?
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2015, 12:24:55 PM: Quote from: Esch on June 16, 2015, 11:59:01 AM
I like the cutaways (wish you could skip through them though).

nah they didnt mention anything about the base/globe aspect.

I'm maybe speculating but I have the impression that the whole guerilla/resistance (and moving base ?) premise may be a way for Firaxis to adress some of the issues of the first game by inverting some of the controversial mechanics. In the demo mission, it's actually your squad that is in the fog of war and able to lay ambushes, for instance. I guess that at the strategic level you will be the one trying to make you way up against an all pervasive alien control of the globe rather than the contrary. Maybe something a la Syndicate with mission to gain territories ? Anyway, as I said, I just hope that we will have more of a free hand there instead of being railroaded through a campaign.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Fragamemnon on June 16, 2015, 02:02:00 PM: Firaxis' isn't talking the strategy layer yet. All we know is bits and pieces.

Don't read in too much in that demo-a lot of the basic mechanics were adjusted for the sake of making something that could be shown off really quickly. Advent and aliens, for example, are not getting free moves on your dudes on the turn they arrive.

The big change is the way that missions aren't just bug hunts / sweep and clears. The missions are more objective based and tempt you with loot gathering, and knowing when the battlefield is getting too hot and you need to get the hell out.There might be "regular" sweep and clear missions once we get more info about the strategic layer (shooting down alien ships? raiding their convoys for supplies?) but even for those I expect that the designate LZ and extract mechanic, which is dependent on the aliens being able to reinforce past the breaking point for your team, will be on every mission.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Rufus on June 16, 2015, 02:53:07 PM: This has the potential to be the most awkward conference. Though I hear some people actually cheer for GPUs, though that's at different places.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 16, 2015, 02:57:44 PM: Quote from: Rufus on June 16, 2015, 02:53:07 PM
This has the potential to be the most awkward conference. Though I hear some people actually cheer for GPUs, though that's at different places.

I hope Nexon shows some porny South Korean timesink (redundant) MMO. :rock
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2015, 03:04:53 PM: Mission might not be nominally bug hunts but the same is true in XCOM EU and yet the game often ended up just forcing on you the extermination of enemy forces and even when it didn't the design funneled you there anyway. I believe it was in part because of the size of the maps, as evident in alien terror mission (with some really half-baked mechanics and victory conditions regarding civilians). The original game was like that too, but the higher number of missions, potential high mortality rate, size of the maps, ability to collect items (instead of "weapons fragments") created a real choice for carrying on or aborting. Overall I think EW didn't fix that problem, but the MELD objectives introduced some tactical variety. So I hope they will continue on this path.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 16, 2015, 03:21:35 PM: Quote from: Esch on June 16, 2015, 03:03:52 PM
Where's 4A games/Firaxis/Larian at tho

Larian's only showing off Divinity: OS Enhanced Edition, don't think they've got anything totally new to show off right now.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Megathread
Post by: Fragamemnon on June 16, 2015, 03:33:21 PM: Quote from: VomKriege on June 16, 2015, 03:04:53 PM
Mission might not be nominally bug hunts but the same is true in XCOM EU and yet the game often ended up just forcing on you the extermination of enemy forces and even when it didn't the design funneled you there anyway. I believe it was in part because of the size of the maps, as evident in alien terror mission (with some really half-baked mechanics and victory conditions regarding civilians). The original game was like that too, but the higher number of missions, potential high mortality rate, size of the maps, ability to collect items (instead of "weapons fragments") created a real choice for carrying on or aborting. Overall I think EW didn't fix that problem, but the MELD objectives introduced some tactical variety. So I hope they will continue on this path.

EU/EW's mission design was always sweep and kill. The only exceptions where variants of sweep and kill, with stuff like bomb disposal making sweep and kill harder or escorting a due while sweeping and killing. It was this way because of the way that reinforcements were usually one-shot from the sky and generally very easy to kill as well as the way that the missions themselves had a terminal point of all the aliens being dead. The original game also had a MASSIVE penalty to fucking a mission up, so players would completely wipe instead of aborting because the cost of failure was too high.

Here the terminal point regardless of success of a mission is extraction, not elimination of all aliens, and that really opens things up. The other side of things is allowing for missions to not always be successful without murdering the player's campaign in the process, so players can leave a mission and avoid deaths (but also miss out on rewards) if they chose to do so.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: VomKriege on June 16, 2015, 03:59:02 PM: I can see your point and I would welcome an objective based turn based tactical game (which seems to be what they are aiming for). It would also make more sense considering the force asymmetry that pulling out as soon as you reached your objective would be the most sensible option.

It is true that in the original, you sometimes had to stand your ground (alien terrors, mostly) no matter how bad things are going, but as I said, the size of the maps and also the size of your force pool and squads make it so that it was a tad different. In new XCOM, losing out two to three soldiers is pretty much already a catastrophic failure. The denser nature of the design leaves no real room for pondering on whether you shgould retire or not. I guess it was a conscious decision by Firaxis to streamline the game to crucial choices, but overall it made the game a bit dry and predictable the more you did the campaign.

The best case scenario would be for something like the Newfoundland mission to evolve organically from the game.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: naff on June 16, 2015, 04:39:19 PM: Quote from: Your Stalker on June 16, 2015, 02:36:27 AM
Quote from: Butt Seriously on June 15, 2015, 07:36:22 PM
reckon the leaked pricepoints for new AMD GPUs are legit? totes happy with my current gpu, but it's still the most interesting part of the conference for me :neogaf

their new architecture and price does seem v. good

Gigabyte (delivery date: June 18)
Gigabyte R9 390X 8GB Gaming G1€ 499.90 / $ 389.99
Gigabyte R9 390 Gaming G1 8GB€ 419.90 / $ 329.99
Gigabyte R9 380 Gaming G1 4GB€ 289.90 / $ 235.99
Gigabyte R9 380 WindForce 2x OC 2GB€ 259.90 / $ 205.99
Gigabyte R7 370 WindForce 2x OC 2GB€ 179.90 / $ 134.99

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-eu-pricing-leaked-sapphire-msi-gigabyte-graphics-cards/

i'm p sure those are just rebrands of the 200 series
Yeah, I (misguidedly it seems) thought they were going to be improving em with their new high bandwidth memory tech.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 16, 2015, 05:10:14 PM: AMD Console

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/06/16/amd-just-announced-their-own-compact-gaming-pc-meet-project-quantum/

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AMD :heh
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Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 16, 2015, 05:16:43 PM: x-com 2 looks hot
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Post by: Rufus on June 16, 2015, 07:23:22 PM: Yup.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: thisismyusername on June 16, 2015, 07:35:52 PM: Quote from: Esch on June 16, 2015, 07:22:32 PM
think there was another AMD event today though

There was, cards announced IIRC.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: eleuin on June 16, 2015, 08:08:00 PM: Stream says in an hour ???
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 16, 2015, 09:08:22 PM: The ~~Tonight Show~~ PC Gaming Show.
Time for a late night ~~chat~~ frag.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2015, 09:30:12 PM: :whoo this is bad

PC gaming sure sucks ass at showmanship
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Kara on June 16, 2015, 09:36:20 PM: Quote from: Esch on June 16, 2015, 09:31:48 PM
this Total War ft. Lorde trailer :dead

Total War: Warhammer - Lordes and Ladies
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: archie4208 on June 16, 2015, 09:41:55 PM: I like this format. It feels cozy and not everyone has to do the canned PR conference. :yeshrug

Also Killer Instinct coming to PC.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Your Stalker on June 16, 2015, 09:55:59 PM: and gears ultimate
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: thisismyusername on June 16, 2015, 09:56:32 PM: Quote from: Your Stalker on June 16, 2015, 09:55:59 PM
and gears ultimate

So Gears 1-3, Judgement? :leon
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Your Stalker on June 16, 2015, 09:59:26 PM: nah, just the first one. i guess they learned from mcc
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: D3RANG3D on June 16, 2015, 10:01:46 PM: PC gaming was a mistake, nothing but trash!
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: thisismyusername on June 16, 2015, 10:02:13 PM: Quote from: Your Stalker on June 16, 2015, 09:59:26 PM
nah, just the first one. i guess they learned from mcc

:beli Well, I guess it's something.

This nicca. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=168525624&postcount=2155) :beli
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2015, 11:20:06 PM: imagine being in that audience, wanting to leave so bad but knowing you have to stay until the end to get your free shit
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: fizzel on June 17, 2015, 12:58:17 AM: That was Kentia hall, and it was glorious. Hope they do it again next year, maybe a bit shorter.
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Post by: Rufus on June 17, 2015, 09:19:23 AM: Anything interesting happen after I left...
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(http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzEwLzA0Lzk2L3RpcmVkY2F0LjBjYTQyLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTg1MHg4NTA-CmUJanBn/94328f4e/258/tired-cat.jpg)
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Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 17, 2015, 11:54:27 AM: I was literally shaking with anger during that conference. Tears formed in my eyes and my fists were clenched. "Announce something," I shrieked at my computer. My mom knocked on my bedroom door and had to ask if I was ok. Then, they started showing me a bunch of losers playing with AMD components dressed in Christian metal tees and I just turned it off. It was actually unbelievable.

Now, I'm 31 years old and this was, without a doubt, the worst conference I've ever seen in my life. It's clear that PC gaming is done forever. There is no recovering from a conference that bad. They'll talk about the Oculus Rift at next E3, but people will ignore it after remembering Lorde.

I love my PC and put my heart and soul into dedicating my gaming life to it. But now, I have nothing. I'm an empty shell.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 18, 2015, 09:51:15 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePHRb4zBqpw
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: bork on June 18, 2015, 12:58:15 PM: Quote from: WRATH VICE™ on June 18, 2015, 12:08:37 PM
:holeup

Looks horrible

So in other words, it looks just like a Banjo game would.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 18, 2015, 05:06:17 PM: Quote from: WRATH VICE™ on June 18, 2015, 12:08:37 PM
:holeup

Looks horrible

It's an alpha version of a game that won't be released until October 2016 at the earliest.

Unless you're talking about the characters and art design.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Fragamemnon on June 18, 2015, 05:16:38 PM: Quote from: bork laser on June 18, 2015, 12:58:15 PM
Quote from: WRATH VICE™ on June 18, 2015, 12:08:37 PM
:holeup

Looks horrible

So in other words, it looks just like a Banjo game would.

I assume it'll look better when they stuff the levels to the brim with meaningless collectibles, right?

also needs more googly eyes pls
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 18, 2015, 05:47:27 PM: Looks like it's really coming together. But I'll continue to keep my hype in check until they show off a significant chunk of actual gameplay.
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 18, 2015, 06:15:03 PM: Thank you, Based Eastern Europe. :bow2
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2015, 07:09:27 PM: :bow Frag :bow2

Thank you!
Title: Re: PC E3 2015 Conference Megathread : 8k Gaming You Won't Use
Post by: Fragamemnon on June 18, 2015, 07:38:10 PM: np Eel, enjoy.

I really don't get the fetishism for medieval Europe. Taking the historical cultural, economic, and commerical low point and making it seem COOL AWESOME seems stupid. It's best left to Paradox games where at least you play the only people that had any fun in that era, the ruling elite.