THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2015, 09:50:55 PM
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It's real, brehs. :gladbron
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And with that, GAF ist tot.
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*struts to the Turks theme*
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8NGDsnv34M
:lawd
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so next up is the ff8 remake, right guys?
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Not surprising given that its been forever since a good FF game came out.
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so next up is the ff8 remake, right guys?
i hear they only remake games people thought were good
...So...
FF8 remake next, right guys? :smug
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looks cool. I hope they change everything and piss people off. I'm of the camp that thinks trying to make a "faithful" remake is pretty pointless especially if they're changing the technological level so much that it can't possibly capture the same feel since the original was designed around the technology it used. Either go all the way or don't bother at all, even if you "fuck it up" it's still preferable to doing something boring.
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Amazing news.
Just really happy today.
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yup I don't care if this is a scene-by-scene remake or whatever. I fully expect them to change plenty (like no way are they gonna keep most of those mini games in) and I trust that they'll do a decent enough job with whatever they decide on.
but for the love of god can we please get a rerelease of the original with a new translation ffs
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I'm so happy over Shenmue III that I don't want to be a downer but I don't expect it to be the game we remember. For example, I bet you aren't environmental terrorists this time due to post-9/11.
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I'm so happy over Shenmue III that I don't want to be a downer but I don't expect it to be the game we remember. For example, I bet you aren't environmental terrorists this time due to post-9/11.
eh I can't imagine Japan still giving a fuck about 9/11, but tonally I think this'll be more advent children square than early ps1 square
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(http://i.imgur.com/jZyNXmD.png)
:ohhh
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Yeah that is where a greatest hits copy belongs :yuck
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Mandy Moore better reprise her role as Aerith-chan. :uguu
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I'm not gonna lie, I never have chills these days for ANY game, but that trailer did it for me. Foocking nostalgia. :tocry
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kznek1uNVsg
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nomura.
guy got fired from ff15 team and still stuck forever on kh3. and I am supposed to be excited for this? not for that first on ps for sure.
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This is def coming out in 2017 for the 20th year anniversary. :lol
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nomura.
guy got fired from ff15 team and still stuck forever on kh3. and I am supposed to be excited for this? not for that first on ps for sure.
Don't want to risk sounding like PR, but he didn't get fired, they just shifted him to other projects.
It would be very hard to screw up the direction role of FFVII with everything already laid in place. Worse they can do is just tone it down such as removing the crossdressing scene or Barret's swearing.
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If they remove the cross dressing scene, then it'll be the inferior version for sure
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Yeeees
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Wasnt Kagari just saying this week this wont happen?
Should be banned now with her inside info
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She's actually doing a Q/A with her weeboo subjects where she claims she's known about this for a year.
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It started production a few months ago according to the leaker.
So she knew about it months before it even went into production...
:goty2
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It started production a few months ago according to the leaker.
So she knew about it months before it even went into production...
:goty2
Creepy Stalker was right.
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If only Creepy Stalker was here now
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Man what an amazing reveal.
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Shenmue 3, The Last Guardian, FFVII remake is real...
am I the first one to become excited by the cream of the 2007 rumor mill coming true eight years later?
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Kagari, ladies and gentleman. Definitely the insiders, insider. I just know she was mad, when she saw this was timed instead of being a full exclusive. So why not muddy the waters a bit and abuse that mod status.
(http://abload.de/img/screenshot2015-06-16a3eodq.png)
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SE will release this on microwaves if they can.
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She dosen't know shit. She's never known shit.
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this won't be out for years
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I'd hope this plays more like an expanded edition of the original with better assets, but I'm fully expecting this to be more of a reimagining of the original.
square Enix's show is today right? hopefully they'll have more details.
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(http://i.imgur.com/qQLmcAr.jpg)
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I'd dig FFVII with some form of ATB and CSB mixed together
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Has Kagari been bishchecked?
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Full orchestral soundtrack please:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12vlUlLQpQg
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Full orchestral soundtrack please:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12vlUlLQpQg
Only if there's double the trumpets than any other instrument.
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What if it was an orchestra of nothing but trumpets? :gladbron
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:ohhh
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No MIDI, no sale.
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Watched the trailer on the big screen and got goosebumps
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lol There's a Parasite Eve reference in the trailer.
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wut
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHnm56QUcAAJa1p.jpg)
HYPE
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not being able to play as dress Cloud in ehrgeiz was an atrocity
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the more crazy elements are apparently confirmed by nomura :o
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When asked whether we would still see Cloud donning a dress, he said “Please look forward to it.”
:rejoice
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:rejoice
I always thought they'd remove it if they remade it. Will it even work with those realistic models??
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zomg I hope the hot tub sodomy scene is still in
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cid with voice acting :rejoice
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There's an Aya poster in the trailer somewhere.
There is. http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/06/16/aya-brea-of-parasite-eve-makes-a-cameo-in-the-ffvii-remake-trailer
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(http://i.imgur.com/FJGJbU1.jpg)
:gladbron
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announced two years ago and all we get is a picture. fire Nomura.
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How hard can it be to remake a game.
It's all been designed already so you don't have to wreck your head coming up with shit, just fucking REmake it.
Like other companies can pump out NEW games in two years.
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How hard can it be to remake a game.
It's all been designed already so you don't have to wreck your head coming up with shit, just fucking REmake it.
Like other companies can pump out NEW games in two years.
Not to excuse Square over their dev cycles but aren't they changing part of the design of the game actually ? Plus I would expect upgrading from PSX to PS4 to have some implications anyway (was FF7 compatible with analog control ? It's silly but even a 1:1 remake would have to adress that).
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Yeah but they don't need to reinvent the wheel here.
They have modern engines that work somewhat. They have the battle system. They have the script.
Litteraly the whole game is there and they have to move it to 3D. Surely doable in two/three years when other devs can make an entire new game in that time.
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This isn't going to be Final Fantasy 7 but with new 3D backgrounds, they're making a completely new game from FF7's script [which is also probably having some work done on it].
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Nobody asked for this
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Nobody asked for this
Um......
Plenty of people did.
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Not to change the game though
game was perfect
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Well I don't think it's perfect, but you hit on a thing I don't quite understand. When it comes to games people seem to loosely use the word Remake. Remake to me means they are well remaking the game. It's a completely new game ala Twin Snakes. Sure Twin Snakes has the same story and script, but the levels were remade. No reuse of assets. Yet some people call enhanced ports remakes, which I don't agree.
Yet also for the longest time people seemed to think a Remake of something like VII would be so easy. Oh just throw some new textures over everything I think is what they thought it would do. Like they would reuse the same layouts or something.
I mean that doesn't make any sense. This is a completely new high budget production. It's probably going to have XIII level production values with nicely animated in game and character cutscenes. It seems like it is a full level mainline FF production.
It's why I never understood why people laughed at Kitase when he said to Remake VII as a game today it would be hard. If you really wanted a Remake you'd want a FFVII with Modern FFXIII level production values and presentation. If not just get the PC version.
But a modern version of FFVII is going to incorporate modern technology and modern gaming senesinilites. If not what's he point?
Also maybe to offset the risk it's going to be episodic which I'm not sure is a good or bad thing. It's worked for Hitman, but a sprawling JRPG is diffrent.
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Idk, i find having an original creative vision and following it a lot easier than copying and/or transposing something. They're different skillsets really, and having to be faithful to the original beloved by filthy weeaboos, while also updating to be a decent game in 201X seems a lot more daunting than just making FFXVI.
Can imagine a revamped Materia system will work really well with a battle system similar to FFXV.
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The biggest problem is SE should really stop announcing games before their anywhere near ready to be actually shown.
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My impression of SE is that they are a much smaller company than people think. They never have the staff to actually make any of these games. Versus sat with a skeleton crew for years, this probably has had a skeleton crew running vertical slices for the last 2 years+. My understanding is they basically have an Osaka big staff team that's on KH3, they have DQ core team probably borrowing Square-side staff that finished with FFXV for DQXI, they have a decent size staff team on FFXIV, and then a bunch of smaller teams for side projects and a bunch of skeleton pre-production teams for FF16 and stuff.
Like until KH3/DQ11 are out, I can't imagine SE has enough staff to do FF16 and FFVIIr at the same time even with outsourcing to CC2. Feels like they can only make one or two big AAA production games at a time.
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What are they outsourcing to CyberConnect2? I haven't played much of their games, but from what little I have their animation is some of, if not the best, I have ever seen in 3d vidya.
Edit: ah the FFVII remake. Sweet. I can see that working really well.
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Haha what the fuck are they doing? Could've just redrawn everything and called it a day and made a fortune off nostalgic fanboys and girls. This is going to be a barely break even proposition instead. :doge
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Haha what the fuck are they doing? Could've just redrawn everything and called it a day and made a fortune off nostalgic fanboys and girls. This is going to be a barely break even proposition instead. :doge
I'm sure there's a western studio Squeenix can blame if this goes tits up.
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Haha what the fuck are they doing? Could've just redrawn everything and called it a day and made a fortune off nostalgic fanboys and girls. This is going to be a barely break even proposition instead. :doge
I don't really follow this logic. It's a AAA JPG with a huge legacy. It can sell to the millions of people already open to a mainline FF game and millions of people who play rpgs and have only heard of FFVII.
Also being a new production means new merchandise, at about the same level a new main numbered FF would have.
And Square is also having this have multiplie episodes/games so it will be a safer investment.
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i mean they could have remade ff7 in full 3d with new cutscenes but kept things like fixed camera angles and random battles to keep costs down. instead they're reimagining it as a AAA action rpg that'll take for-fucking-ever to complete.
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Yep
Nobody asked for this
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Wow, so it's an episodic FF15 mod. Who knew? :doge
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That UI is straight out of some 5 year old FFvs13 screen shots/trailers.
Also isn't this being done in UE4 and NOT the existing FFXV tech?
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Well this certainly looks expensive
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Haha what the fuck are they doing? Could've just redrawn everything and called it a day and made a fortune off nostalgic fanboys and girls. This is going to be a barely break even proposition instead. :doge
I don't really follow this logic. It's a AAA JPG with a huge legacy. It can sell to the millions of people already open to a mainline FF game and millions of people who play rpgs and have only heard of FFVII.
Also being a new production means new merchandise, at about the same level a new main numbered FF would have.
And Square is also having this have multiplie episodes/games so it will be a safer investment.
To add to this:
- Remaking FF7 as a basic HD version would've cost a irregularly large sum of cash considering they have to recreate thousands of pre-rendered backgrounds.
- Doing the above would takes years and a large team of specialized CG artists to make it to current quality expectations.
- CG quality artist, the ones who would do the pre-rendered backgrounds, cost a hell of a lot more than your typical 3D modeler and are in short supply (especially in Japan).
- The number of consumers who are actually willing to purchase a throwback classic RPG for $60 is a minuscule amount compared to a brand-new AAA action RPG.
- What you're seeing now is actually the safer and more lucrative choice considering they're going to be selling this franchise for 6+ years and asking fans to pay $200+ for the complete series.
A straight-forward HD remake of FF7 was never in the cards.