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Title: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 19, 2015, 09:23:06 AM
But we all knew this already

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We found that lower general intelligence in childhood predicts greater racism in adulthood, and this effect was largely mediated via conservative ideology, lead researchers Gordon Hodson and Michael A. Busseri of Brock University, Canada, wrote in the abstract of the paper.

http://www.ibtimes.com/people-low-iq-tend-be-socially-conservative-new-study-401470
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 09:24:18 AM
What type of dithering fuckwit believes in their own mental superiority based on these results? Oh yeah, liberals.

Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: benjipwns on June 19, 2015, 09:25:52 AM
This study is from 2011, so it was disproven by the 2014 and 2015 elections.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 19, 2015, 09:37:52 AM
Odd that Canadian researchers used American and UK datasets to base their results on. I'm assuming they had access to Canadian/Western European datasets and it didn't give them what they were looking for.



Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Kara on June 19, 2015, 09:40:34 AM
Odd that Canadian researchers used American and UK datasets to base their results on. I'm assuming they had access to Canadian/Western European datasets and it didn't give them what they were looking for.

:ohhh
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2015, 09:45:05 AM
Stats Canada generally sucks, so my guess if anything is they are missing parts of the data / switched systems one hundred times.

What type of dithering fuckwit believes in their own mental superiority based on these results? Oh yeah, liberals.



That was a good point but you vote GOP so I'm not sure its actually a smart answer, given the facts. 
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 19, 2015, 10:00:57 AM
Also people with lower IQs also lead generally happier lives. Which explains why the bore is miserable.  :jawalrus

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Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 10:04:32 AM
Conservatives own the vast majority of corporations and a large sum of the united states' wealth in general.

Yes, 9-5 working libtards, your intelligence is what holds you back  :snoop
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 19, 2015, 10:06:09 AM
Making money makes you smart brehs.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 10:06:46 AM
Making money makes you smart brehs.

Certainly doesn't make you stupid.

More money = more options


Besides my pops use to say "AiA if you gotta tell people you're smart, you're not"  applies here pretty well.

Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 19, 2015, 10:21:24 AM
Having options doesn't make you smart. It means you have more options.

Aren't you the one here telling us conservatives are smart? :hitler
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: benjipwns on June 19, 2015, 10:22:15 AM
The paper doesn't exactly say "liberals" are smarter, it just says that lower IQ's correlate with anti-homosexual, xenophobic, pro-authoritarian, etc. views.

This isn't even a new theory in "either" camp. Hannah Arendt and Hayek both considered in their books that the "less capable" are the dangerous ones caught up in revolutionary movements because intellectuals tend not to last long and generally hold a higher moral code. So once they're shuffled off into a mass grave somewhere, the less savory and more pro-violence consolidate power. People who would rather spend Friday night smashing the windows of Jews or Slavs are probably more likely to be of lower IQs, EQs or other intellectual markers than people who spend their Friday nights writing revolutionary tracts about the Marxist ramifications of cartoon mice exploiting broomsticks for labor nobody reads.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 10:22:45 AM
Having options doesn't make you smart. It means you have more options.

Aren't you the one here telling us conservatives are smart? :hitler

I'd say they relatively balance out across both sectors. Both sides have their morons.

 :dolezal
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Courage on June 19, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
A_I_A what's your IQ?
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 10:24:08 AM
I like how AIA is so offended when it clearly says socially conservative and not economically conservative, which is the conservatism he says he embraces, and yet somehow is offended on the behalf of social conservatives. Odd, that.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 10:26:06 AM
I like how AIA is so offended when it clearly says socially conservative and not economically conservative, which is the conservatism he says he embraces, and yet somehow is offended on the behalf of social conservatives. Odd, that.

Nope. I'm just goddamn tired of the liberal "we're smarter than everybody" agenda which generally doesn't do shit but promote circular arguments. :yeshrug

And you know what that say about arguing with an idiot, they'll take you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 10:26:20 AM
A_I_A what's your IQ?

Touchdown
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 19, 2015, 10:26:32 AM
Seriously though, it's not terribly surprising. People with lower IQs are more given to fear that which is foreign to them because it's just intellectually easier.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 10:27:23 AM
Seriously though, it's not terribly surprising. People with lower IQs are more given to fear that which is foreign to them because it's just intellectually easier.

I'd counter that the intellectually superior are more prone to be fearful of things they can't control. So what's the point?
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2015, 10:27:32 AM
Its not an agenda; its an attitude, which happens to be supported by facts. 
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 10:28:28 AM
Its not an agenda; its an attitude, which happens to be supported by facts.

Facts based on stats created by people who follow the agenda. Wow, consider me blown away.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 19, 2015, 10:28:53 AM
Seriously though, it's not terribly surprising. People with lower IQs are more given to fear that which is foreign to them because it's just intellectually easier.

I'd counter that the intellectually superior are more prone to be fearful of things they can't control. So what's the point?
YOU CAN'T CONTROL MY GAYNESS!!
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 10:29:34 AM
Seriously though, it's not terribly surprising. People with lower IQs are more given to fear that which is foreign to them because it's just intellectually easier.

I'd counter that the intellectually superior are more prone to be fearful of things they can't control. So what's the point?
YOU CAN'T CONTROL MY GAYNESS!!

Stop. You know exactly what I'm saying.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 19, 2015, 10:32:04 AM
Dumb people be all like BLEEEERRGHGHH

Smart people be all like MEEEEGHHGHGHG
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 19, 2015, 10:32:28 AM
studies have shown that smarter people tend to be more fearful (and like I said miserable) because they're smart enough to know of things they know they cannot control. However, they typically don't take this out by marginalizing minority groups. Rather they sit in the dark alone and ponder their meaningless existence.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 10:39:47 AM
I like how AIA is so offended when it clearly says socially conservative and not economically conservative, which is the conservatism he says he embraces, and yet somehow is offended on the behalf of social conservatives. Odd, that.

Nope. I'm just goddamn tired of the liberal "we're smarter than everybody" agenda which generally doesn't do shit but promote circular arguments. :yeshrug

And you know what that say about arguing with an idiot, they'll take you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Well, I'll agree that liberals generally do think they know better than everyone else. But that's also true for conservatives. So it's fun just watching them fight it out.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: benjipwns on June 19, 2015, 10:40:28 AM
Look we can easily solve this dilemma, here is the chart from the paper summarizing their findings, if you can read it like me you're clearly an idiot because you've been saturated in juices of the social sciences, if it looks like lines and boxes with random garbage written on it you probably have done something useful in your life like not purchased highly probable money laundering posing as games off of Steam because of back of the napkin calculations on the likely cents of profit:
(http://i.imgur.com/AUAiUtk.jpg)

Looking at their dataset usage with the massive N and their tying of questions together the study is ideal for political science and therefore of little value. The general thrust is none the less relatively sound and I would imagine WFB Jr. (PBUH) would agree with the overall concept as Arendt and Hayek did.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Barry Egan on June 19, 2015, 10:41:45 AM
It's actually pretty generous to call social conservatives dumb.  If you're smart enough to follow a train of thought to it's conclusion and are still socially conservative, then you're just a heinous asshole.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 19, 2015, 10:50:19 AM
A true liberal would've color coded their diagram.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: CatsCatsCats on June 19, 2015, 10:51:53 AM
And behold, they divide the masses and obscure their true enemy  :hans1
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: benjipwns on June 19, 2015, 10:52:17 AM
Real academic journals don't publish in color, it's beneath them. You shade things so they're impossible to read if you "need" colors.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2015, 10:53:17 AM
And behold, they divide the masses and obscure their true enemy  :hans1

Capitalism  :yuck
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2015, 10:53:55 AM
Its not an agenda; its an attitude, which happens to be supported by facts.

Facts based on stats created by people who follow the agenda. Wow, consider me blown away.

What's with the conservative agenda to describe everything as an agenda; like everything you disagree with is conspiring against you?
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 19, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
Oh look aia is mad again
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 11:05:50 AM
Oh look aia is mad again

 :money

You don't matter enough to make me mad :hitler
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2015, 11:08:20 AM
I think you just got lumped in with the white women who don't matter, Lager and put at number 4 on the list.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 19, 2015, 11:10:58 AM
Every one of these types of studies can be summed up as, "You don't want to be one of THEM, do you?"

It's such a classic high school, peer pressure move.



Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Brehvolution on June 19, 2015, 11:14:45 AM
I was never a fan of these "studies". There are people of all types and you just have to deal with it.

Example: Clayton Bigsby
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 19, 2015, 11:16:01 AM
Study: People who don't like studies have low IQs
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on June 19, 2015, 11:22:12 AM
Ever have a friend casually reveal their innate racism that they did an otherwise decent job of hiding?

A lot of these small town white boys go full hick when they get a little beer in em. Ninja this, ninja that. Let me tell you about that Muslim Obama. This is capital region NY.

Longtime friend since childhood got his McD's order fucked up one night. Proceeds to go on a tirade about the black guys working there, how they're all ninjas. Shit is disappointing.

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He got addicted to opiates and fucked up his life. Loves Reagan and Bush BTW, but what do politics have to do with it? :smug
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I have this habit of getting sloshed and thinking I can talk to black dudes about racism and the injustices of the world.

Somehow I pull it off and come across genuine and the response is a mix of :ohhh and :mynicca as we smoke a blunt together.

Liquid courage to transcend racial and socioeconomic barriers
#WeAreTheWorld  :rejoice
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: benjipwns on June 19, 2015, 11:26:20 AM
Study: People who don't like studies tend to ignore findings of studies.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 19, 2015, 11:26:29 AM
What if everyone is racist/xenophobic and smarter people are just better at hiding it?

 :ohhh
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Huff on June 19, 2015, 11:31:21 AM
Studies are usually garbage.

Although my experience is mostly reading medical literature, I now go in looking for what the authors did wrong or what information was not mentioned. Or that the conclusions don't match the stats. Or the stats dont seem to match the raw data.

I assume social studies are even more garbage
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Rufus on June 19, 2015, 11:32:47 AM
What if everyone is racist/xenophobic and smarter people are just better at hiding it?

 :ohhh
Biases and prejudice take work to overcome, especially when statements mired in either come from people you tend to agree with. So, not all all unlikely.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: brawndolicious on June 19, 2015, 11:40:35 AM
I don't think I know anyone who's socially conservative but wasn't raised that way. Which MIGHT suggeat that they have fear of challenging the way they were raised or lack the confidence to think about that stuff. But that is ultimately a subjective thing and probably based a lot on how much empathy they have for other people.

A lot of them are very academically and financially successful so I would be skeptical that low IQ is the reason they have less progressive views. What does an IQ test really measure that is relevant to stuff like gay marriage?
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 19, 2015, 11:59:20 AM
Oh look aia is mad again

 :money

You don't matter enough to make me mad :hitler

Yeah u mad
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 12:21:44 PM
I don't think I know anyone who's socially conservative but wasn't raised that way. Which MIGHT suggeat that they have fear of challenging the way they were raised or lack the confidence to think about that stuff. But that is ultimately a subjective thing and probably based a lot on how much empathy they have for other people.

A lot of them are very academically and financially successful so I would be skeptical that low IQ is the reason they have less progressive views. What does an IQ test really measure that is relevant to stuff like gay marriage?

I'm a conservative. My parents were poor and black. Want to make another assumption?
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 12:25:18 PM
Oh look aia is mad again

 :money

You don't matter enough to make me mad :hitler

Yeah u mad

Saying I'm mad doesn't make me "mad"

Should you not be spending more times actually doing your job than hamfisting a debate and trying to matter? Just a suggestion...
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Kara on June 19, 2015, 12:43:21 PM
Ever have a friend casually reveal their innate racism that they did an otherwise decent job of hiding?

Not really friends, but the :money I work for will say some of the most :holeup stuff to me frequently, which I of course tactfully engage with in a completely non-committal fashion. :hitler

Cultivate a trustworthy public persona and be born a white male with a WASP name y'all. :win
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 19, 2015, 01:12:08 PM
Yeah you mad
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: StealthFan on June 19, 2015, 01:14:21 PM
Why we gotta get so personal?
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2015, 01:18:40 PM
Because deep inside we're all animals just looking for an excuse to start killing each other
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Kara on June 19, 2015, 01:19:46 PM
Doubleplus unchill waves outchea. :goty
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2015, 01:25:33 PM
My parents were poor and black.

But now they are rich and white.  Welcome to the century of trans-racialism. 
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on June 19, 2015, 01:30:04 PM
My parents were poor and black.

But now they are rich and white.  Welcome to the century of trans-racialism.

My parents are now Cliff and Claire Huxtable?  :gladbron
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2015, 01:33:00 PM
They can be anything you want them to be, as long as they don't rat you out on twitter. 
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 19, 2015, 01:34:06 PM
My dad is a Jamaican/Chinese oriental witch doctor, but I still vote NDP by the way. 
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: brawndolicious on June 19, 2015, 05:17:01 PM
I don't think I know anyone who's socially conservative but wasn't raised that way. Which MIGHT suggeat that they have fear of challenging the way they were raised or lack the confidence to think about that stuff. But that is ultimately a subjective thing and probably based a lot on how much empathy they have for other people.

A lot of them are very academically and financially successful so I would be skeptical that low IQ is the reason they have less progressive views. What does an IQ test really measure that is relevant to stuff like gay marriage?

I'm a conservative. My parents were poor and black. Want to make another assumption?

You're socially conservative?
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on June 19, 2015, 05:22:10 PM
lol@ aia's knee-jerk reaction "Republicans make money so they're smart" when the lede of the article is pointing out social conservatism. Sure aia, liberals are as racist and homophobic as the party that flies the Confederate flag and vilify gays every election cycle, you got it man
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: king of the internet on June 19, 2015, 05:48:37 PM
Embrace the hatred within  :rejoice
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 19, 2015, 07:31:56 PM
Why we gotta get so personal?

"And all you're ever gonna be is mean"

Taylor Swift is the GOAT.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: tiesto on June 19, 2015, 11:23:00 PM
Hmm, could also be that people with higher IQ are more likely to go to colleges and/or work in careers where they associate with a much more diverse populace which opens them up to new ideas.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Mr. Nobody on June 20, 2015, 02:38:31 AM
Why we gotta get so personal?

"And all you're ever gonna be is mean"

Taylor Swift is the GOAT.

You could've at least avatar quot-  :picard
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on June 20, 2015, 12:05:35 PM
Hmm, could also be that people with higher IQ are more likely to go to colleges and/or work in careers where they associate with a much more diverse populace which opens them up to new ideas.
I actually like this theory. In my work I have to deal with tons of people with tons of different races and backgrounds. I know many of the more socially conservative people I know tend to be in fairly homogenous regions and have little interactions with anyone that's unlike that.

Of course I would also point that for me working with all these people of different races has just made me more racist. I hate everyone now.
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 22, 2015, 04:29:07 PM
itt hysterical conservatives, self-loathing liberals

science prevails again :phil
Title: Re: People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative:
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 22, 2015, 04:33:41 PM
itt hysterical conservative, self-loathing liberals

science prevails again :phil