Episode one was OK. It's not like this was the first new Dragonball thing and it felt like another little OVA. It looks like they are just taking the Battle Of The Gods movie storyline and turning it into a long, drawn-out TV show version, which is kind of a snoozer. Hope I'm wrong on this and Beerus isn't the bad guy again.
Still I'm pretty sure if I'd never heard of the show and just started watching Z today I'd probably hate it.
Dragon Ball Super (Japanese: ドラゴンボール超 Hepburn: Doragon Bōru Sūpā?) is an anime television series produced by Toei Animation that began airing on July 5, 2015.[2] It is the first Dragon Ball anime produced in 18 years and is set after the defeat of Majin Boo, when the Earth has become peaceful once again.
I'd be excited as fuck for new Looney Tunes and if it were good.
I'd be excited as fuck for new Looney Tunes and if it were good.
Me too! Difference being, original Looney Tunes were actually GOOD. Can't make that claim with original DB.
:heyman
Gonna wait for Black History Month before starting my official DRAGON BALL Z FIRST WATCH thread/marathon.
OG dragon ball :zzz
OG dragon ball :zzz
Goku kills Piccolo by diving, fist first, right through his stomach. It is without a doubt, the most gully moment in the franchise.
(http://i.imgur.com/Egt2dVd.jpg)
Esch's opinions on Dragonball :zzz
OG dragon ball :zzz
Goku kills Piccolo by diving, fist first, right through his stomach. It is without a doubt, the most gully moment in the franchise.
(http://i.imgur.com/Egt2dVd.jpg)
Esch's opinions on Dragonball :zzz
Didn't this happen like 130 episodes in?
Original DB can be a slog. Then again, so can non-Kai DBZ. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯spoiler (click to show/hide)DBZ defined my childhood. :lawd[close]
No super saiyans it sucks. Just keeping it 100 :yeshrug
OG dragon ball :zzz
Goku kills Piccolo by diving, fist first, right through his stomach. It is without a doubt, the most gully moment in the franchise.
(http://i.imgur.com/Egt2dVd.jpg)
Esch's opinions on Dragonball :zzz
Didn't this happen like 130 episodes in?
Original DB can be a slog. Then again, so can non-Kai DBZ. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯spoiler (click to show/hide)DBZ defined my childhood. :lawd[close]
As said above, Dragon Ball manga is the superior form of both. The anime of both are pretty much :trash and the only redeeming aspect is Kai.
Also, I love how power gets stronger and stronger in scale in the original Dragon Ball. Going from going small bout, traditional martial arts fights to being able to move faster than the eye can see, to being able to FLY. The way the decks get stacked higher and higher in Dragonball is something that DBZ never sees nor realizes. At the beginning of Z, they can fly, so it's not really a big deal. In DB, when you see Tien and Chaotzu and those dudes are levitating, and eventually they all learn to fly, it's one of the :lawd moments and really is very similar to Journey to the West's power gains. Monkey goes from just learning some basic magic like being able to do a normal hand combat fight, to learning magic, to learning how to trapeze on clouds, to being able to transform into anything including 500 foot Gods with six arms. :lawd The scale of power that gets crazier and crazier is a hallmark of that type of story, it's completely lacking in Z.
The best thing to do is not to watch the "drag-on" ball anime episodes and read the manga instead.
OG dragon ball :zzz
Goku kills Piccolo by diving, fist first, right through his stomach. It is without a doubt, the most gully moment in the franchise.
(http://i.imgur.com/Egt2dVd.jpg)
Esch's opinions on Dragonball :zzz
Didn't this happen like 130 episodes in?
Original DB can be a slog. Then again, so can non-Kai DBZ. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯spoiler (click to show/hide)DBZ defined my childhood. :lawd[close]
As said above, Dragon Ball manga is the superior form of both. The anime of both are pretty much :trash and the only redeeming aspect is Kai.
Also, I love how power gets stronger and stronger in scale in the original Dragon Ball. Going from going small bout, traditional martial arts fights to being able to move faster than the eye can see, to being able to FLY. The way the decks get stacked higher and higher in Dragonball is something that DBZ never sees nor realizes. At the beginning of Z, they can fly, so it's not really a big deal. In DB, when you see Tien and Chaotzu and those dudes are levitating, and eventually they all learn to fly, it's one of the :lawd moments and really is very similar to Journey to the West's power gains. Monkey goes from just learning some basic magic like being able to do a normal hand combat fight, to learning magic, to learning how to trapeze on clouds, to being able to transform into anything including 500 foot Gods with six arms. :lawd The scale of power that gets crazier and crazier is a hallmark of that type of story, it's completely lacking in Z.
If we're going with the manga, there is no "Z." It's all one continuous series. So these complaints knocking Z aren't even valid. :expert
That's right my friend, let me ask you... does a machine like yourself ever experience fear?
Falconer score sucks and has always been shit.
Kai's score is fantastic and wonderful mix of JP DBZ ost orchestration and ENG Funi Falconer ost contemporary styles.
I never liked how they'd be talking a normal chat in the Funi dub, and some fucking awful siren wailing techno rock would start blaring and it's just a normal talk. Falconer blows.
In DB, when you see Tien and Chaotzu and those dudes are levitating, and eventually they all learn to fly, it's one of the :lawd moments and really is very similar to Journey to the West's power gains. Monkey goes from just learning some basic magic like being able to do a normal hand combat fight, to learning magic, to learning how to trapeze on clouds, to being able to transform into anything including 500 foot Gods with six arms. :lawd The scale of power that gets crazier and crazier is a hallmark of that type of story, it's completely lacking in Z.
toriyama on what this series will be
"“Dragon Ball Super” is a complete continuation of the Majin Buu story arc. It’s got a bit of post-battle aftermath, continues with the “Battle of Gods” arc where the God of Destruction Beerus appears and the “Revival of ‘F'” arc where Freeza comes back to life, and then, I’ve written a strange new story where they finally depart from this universe. They’re fighting against their neighbors, Universe 6! They’ll yell at me if I give away too many spoilers, so I’ll keep the rest a secret, but they’re chasing after giant Super Dragon Balls; I think things will unfold in a bright and simple way, that will be really fun and exciting!
Since it’s another universe, loads of new characters will turn up. I’ll do my best to draw the tons of character designs necessary, so I’m looking forward to this too.
You know, it suddenly occurs to me that somewhere along the line the Dragon Ball anime has become quite a huge story. Since I’m the guy who drew the thing, it’s a bit weird for me to say this, but when I first started out I never dreamed it would have a universe as a setting (laughs). Don’t worry though, it’s still going to be the same sort of easy-to-understand content as always. Please be sure to watch Dragon Ball Super on TV!"
toriyama on what this series will be
"“Dragon Ball Super” is a complete continuation of the Majin Buu story arc. It’s got a bit of post-battle aftermath, continues with the “Battle of Gods” arc where the God of Destruction Beerus appears and the “Revival of ‘F'” arc where Freeza comes back to life, and then, I’ve written a strange new story where they finally depart from this universe. They’re fighting against their neighbors, Universe 6! They’ll yell at me if I give away too many spoilers, so I’ll keep the rest a secret, but they’re chasing after giant Super Dragon Balls; I think things will unfold in a bright and simple way, that will be really fun and exciting!
Since it’s another universe, loads of new characters will turn up. I’ll do my best to draw the tons of character designs necessary, so I’m looking forward to this too.
You know, it suddenly occurs to me that somewhere along the line the Dragon Ball anime has become quite a huge story. Since I’m the guy who drew the thing, it’s a bit weird for me to say this, but when I first started out I never dreamed it would have a universe as a setting (laughs). Don’t worry though, it’s still going to be the same sort of easy-to-understand content as always. Please be sure to watch Dragon Ball Super on TV!"
In DB, when you see Tien and Chaotzu and those dudes are levitating, and eventually they all learn to fly, it's one of the :lawd moments and really is very similar to Journey to the West's power gains. Monkey goes from just learning some basic magic like being able to do a normal hand combat fight, to learning magic, to learning how to trapeze on clouds, to being able to transform into anything including 500 foot Gods with six arms. :lawd The scale of power that gets crazier and crazier is a hallmark of that type of story, it's completely lacking in Z.
Making me long for a new Enslaved. There's a revival I can get behind with little hesitation.
My question is how much footage of Piccolo, Tien and Krillin standing on the sidelines looking frustrated at their complete irrelevance are we going to get?Yamcha doesn't even get a mention. :heh
DBZ probably gave us a couple dozen hours of Piccolo, Tien and Krillin looking frustrated on the sidelines. Now that the power gap between them and the Saiyans is even more dramatic, can Super top this?
I started watching DBZ subbed on Hulu. Not sure if that's Kai or not. I heard Kai cuts some of the fat? If so where can I watch it?
I have no shame. It's about time I watched this for history's sake rather than rely on what I know from internet memes and playing the PS2 games.
My question is how much footage of Piccolo, Tien and Krillin standing on the sidelines looking frustrated at their complete irrelevance are we going to get?
DBZ probably gave us a couple dozen hours of Piccolo, Tien and Krillin looking frustrated on the sidelines. Now that the power gap between them and the Saiyans is even more dramatic, can Super top this?
(http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/36582855/images/1417827265903.jpg)He was at least robust enough to keep all his limbs attached. Being cratered like that would have dismembered an ordinary human, I'm sure. :larry
I started watching DBZ subbed on Hulu. Not sure if that's Kai or not. I heard Kai cuts some of the fat? If so where can I watch it?
I have no shame. It's about time I watched this for history's sake rather than rely on what I know from internet memes and playing the PS2 games.
Pirate Kai.
I started watching DBZ subbed on Hulu. Not sure if that's Kai or not. I heard Kai cuts some of the fat? If so where can I watch it?
I have no shame. It's about time I watched this for history's sake rather than rely on what I know from internet memes and playing the PS2 games.
Pirate Kai.
Is it so different/better that it's worth pirating, is my question.
Holy shit. :bow
Pirating.
It's stupid as fuck but at least it's explained: the tail is a genetic weak link and he and Trunks weren't born with tails. It makes sense and follows the basic contuiity of the series: Gohan is for practical purposes, stronger than Goku and Vegeta because he's mixed with human blood. It's revealed at the beginning of the show that Saiyan blood and Human blood mix well and make for stronger warriors. Vegeta and Nappa literally come to Earth because they want to mate with human women to bear them children as warriors. Goten, being born without a tail, has stronger fight potential than Gohan. That doesn't make the way he easily achieves it okay, and it's a large point as to why I said on the previous page that Super Saiyan is a :trash ability/power up, but in the scope of the story, it makes sense.
The fight with Vegeta and final form Freeza literally took less than 5 minutes.
Yeah, DBZ Kai is great. It gets rid of the show's biggest weakness: filler episodes and stupid unnecessary, long power up/staring/screaming scenes. Makes the show infinitely more tolerable. My only complaint is that they kinda go a bit TOO far in this extreme. The fight with Vegeta and final form Freeza literally took less than 5 minutes.
But still, I'd take a DBZ with the fat trimmed than how it originally was, 12 times out of 10.It's stupid as fuck but at least it's explained: the tail is a genetic weak link and he and Trunks weren't born with tails. It makes sense and follows the basic contuiity of the series: Gohan is for practical purposes, stronger than Goku and Vegeta because he's mixed with human blood. It's revealed at the beginning of the show that Saiyan blood and Human blood mix well and make for stronger warriors. Vegeta and Nappa literally come to Earth because they want to mate with human women to bear them children as warriors. Goten, being born without a tail, has stronger fight potential than Gohan. That doesn't make the way he easily achieves it okay, and it's a large point as to why I said on the previous page that Super Saiyan is a :trash ability/power up, but in the scope of the story, it makes sense.
What? If that were true, then Gohan's powerup wouldn't have been a shock to Raditz.
No. How's the pace of Dragon Ball compared to Z/Kai?
The first 3 episodes of Kai covered 6-7 episodes of vanilla Z. :bow
No. How's the pace of Dragon Ball compared to Z/Kai?
Yeah, DBZ Kai is great. It gets rid of the show's biggest weakness: filler episodes and stupid unnecessary, long power up/staring/screaming scenes. Makes the show infinitely more tolerable. My only complaint is that they kinda go a bit TOO far in this extreme. The fight with Vegeta and final form Freeza literally took less than 5 minutes.
But still, I'd take a DBZ with the fat trimmed than how it originally was, 12 times out of 10.It's stupid as fuck but at least it's explained: the tail is a genetic weak link and he and Trunks weren't born with tails. It makes sense and follows the basic contuiity of the series: Gohan is for practical purposes, stronger than Goku and Vegeta because he's mixed with human blood. It's revealed at the beginning of the show that Saiyan blood and Human blood mix well and make for stronger warriors. Vegeta and Nappa literally come to Earth because they want to mate with human women to bear them children as warriors. Goten, being born without a tail, has stronger fight potential than Gohan. That doesn't make the way he easily achieves it okay, and it's a large point as to why I said on the previous page that Super Saiyan is a :trash ability/power up, but in the scope of the story, it makes sense.
What? If that were true, then Gohan's powerup wouldn't have been a shock to Raditz.
It was a shock. But he realized and said it when he was going to kill gohan after he headbutted radditz like a G. He says flat on it "he has a stronger power level than either of you" despite his age and this is due to mixing of human and Saiyan blood. Watch the scene again. Shit is explained clear as day.
Nappa and Vegeta heard everything on the scouter, including the part about strong mixture of human blood and set out.
Hmm so apparently this is going to retell the story of BoG? Guess I'll wait till a good number of eps are out before tuning in
Probably because not everyone has seen BoG or RoF and they seem crucial to the story. It also seems that BoG and RoF were tests of the market to see if there's still demand for Dragon Ball after 20 years before dedicating and sinking time into a new long tv series. Hence, less risk that way.
Hmm so apparently this is going to retell the story of BoG? Guess I'll wait till a good number of eps are out before tuning in
Apparently the plan is to make TV versions of both the Battle Of The Gods and Resurrection Of Freeza storylines (WHY) and then move onto Goku and company experiencing opponents from and/or going to a brand-new universe, which the BoG movie hinted at. That last storyline seems interesting. Movie retread storylines do not. So maybe we'll get an actual new storyline within a year or three.
Yeah, DBZ Kai is great. It gets rid of the show's biggest weakness: filler episodes and stupid unnecessary, long power up/staring/screaming scenes. Makes the show infinitely more tolerable. My only complaint is that they kinda go a bit TOO far in this extreme. The fight with Vegeta and final form Freeza literally took less than 5 minutes.
But still, I'd take a DBZ with the fat trimmed than how it originally was, 12 times out of 10.It's stupid as fuck but at least it's explained: the tail is a genetic weak link and he and Trunks weren't born with tails. It makes sense and follows the basic contuiity of the series: Gohan is for practical purposes, stronger than Goku and Vegeta because he's mixed with human blood. It's revealed at the beginning of the show that Saiyan blood and Human blood mix well and make for stronger warriors. Vegeta and Nappa literally come to Earth because they want to mate with human women to bear them children as warriors. Goten, being born without a tail, has stronger fight potential than Gohan. That doesn't make the way he easily achieves it okay, and it's a large point as to why I said on the previous page that Super Saiyan is a :trash ability/power up, but in the scope of the story, it makes sense.
What? If that were true, then Gohan's powerup wouldn't have been a shock to Raditz.
It was a shock. But he realized and said it when he was going to kill gohan after he headbutted radditz like a G. He says flat on it "he has a stronger power level than either of you" despite his age and this is due to mixing of human and Saiyan blood. Watch the scene again. Shit is explained clear as day.
Nappa and Vegeta heard everything on the scouter, including the part about strong mixture of human blood and set out.
Andddd here you go.
(http://i.imgur.com/Z8HGaTL.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/8sCQmFL.jpg)
He just likes fighting because he's based on Sun Wukong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Wukong).
Yeah, DBZ Kai is great. It gets rid of the show's biggest weakness: filler episodes and stupid unnecessary, long power up/staring/screaming scenes. Makes the show infinitely more tolerable. My only complaint is that they kinda go a bit TOO far in this extreme. The fight with Vegeta and final form Freeza literally took less than 5 minutes.
But still, I'd take a DBZ with the fat trimmed than how it originally was, 12 times out of 10.It's stupid as fuck but at least it's explained: the tail is a genetic weak link and he and Trunks weren't born with tails. It makes sense and follows the basic contuiity of the series: Gohan is for practical purposes, stronger than Goku and Vegeta because he's mixed with human blood. It's revealed at the beginning of the show that Saiyan blood and Human blood mix well and make for stronger warriors. Vegeta and Nappa literally come to Earth because they want to mate with human women to bear them children as warriors. Goten, being born without a tail, has stronger fight potential than Gohan. That doesn't make the way he easily achieves it okay, and it's a large point as to why I said on the previous page that Super Saiyan is a :trash ability/power up, but in the scope of the story, it makes sense.
What? If that were true, then Gohan's powerup wouldn't have been a shock to Raditz.
It was a shock. But he realized and said it when he was going to kill gohan after he headbutted radditz like a G. He says flat on it "he has a stronger power level than either of you" despite his age and this is due to mixing of human and Saiyan blood. Watch the scene again. Shit is explained clear as day.
Nappa and Vegeta heard everything on the scouter, including the part about strong mixture of human blood and set out.
Andddd here you go.
(http://i.imgur.com/Z8HGaTL.png)
He doesn't say anything about Gohan's power being the result of his mixed blood.Quote(http://i.imgur.com/8sCQmFL.jpg)
I do remember reading that. However, it clearly demonstrates that they weren't coming with the goal of making babies, Himu-chan. :P
I reached the end of Vegeta's 3 hours wait for Kakarot. I'm enjoying this and I ain't even ashamed. The editing is really great, cuts the fat like everyone said giving more focus to other areas— for example I forgot how humorous and unserious the series can be. I'm not sure if this tone will continue further in, though.
But I will say, there were instances where I felt the same way Oblivion did about the editing. It can get too excessive? at times it felt like it was edited for existing fans who just wanted to review/rewatch the show, and not for first timers like me. I felt rushed for example when Piccolo was training Gohan. Like, out of nowhere Gohan suddenly was wearing the purple garb. Was there any context to this?
If not, then this is another problem: whenever I feel like I missed something I'll blame the editing even if there were none. :lolspoiler (click to show/hide)Look at this long DBZ post, brehs. This is an L I never thought I'd ever have to take.[close]
Ya I'm into the Cell saga. This is good. Dragon Ball was funnier though. I feel like lots of jokes got cut.
I think I'm almost at the point of the first Super Sayian transformation. I just love that this is how Goku imagines Vegeta in his head:
(http://i.imgur.com/QAdIJdi.png)
This show is mad homo.
I liked the dragon ball race. Adventure is a big part of the allure of DB for me. It's probably hard for me to judge it harshly because I started watching during the Namek arc, and it's entirely what I think of when I think of Dragon Ball because of that. :-[
It should be noted that originally, Freeza was supposed to be the final boss of the overall series and the series was supposed to end after Namek. Hence the epic showdown with Freeza.
Part of the whole package of rumors about Toriyama’s thwarted plans of ending the series with the Freeza arc is that, once that plan fell through, he then tried to end it after the Cell Games only to fail once more. All the same things that can be said about the supposed Freeza ending can be said here too: Toriyama has never said such a thing in interviews.
He eats people for consumption, hence cell.
Also if you don't like the digital animation of Kai or Super's OPs, why the fuck are you watching Super. :lol
Dragon Soul (Mignona) > Head Cha-La
:patel
:yeshrug Nostalgia is a bitch.
Cha La Head Cha La op has much better animation, is more charming, and much more badass. I skip Kai's OP every time. Super's OP sucks too. As did the new Sailor Moon.
King Kai's vo is in his 80's and sick.
I have no problem with DBS pacing so far. Give it time. If they haven't beaten Beerus by episode 20, then go ahead. :lol
It takes a while to get to the fight in BoG, and I don't see the fight lasting that long, so I'm not sure why you would expect them to fight, or for Super to follow the same formula of Z. DBZ is all fights pretty much all the time, for the most part. The first episode of DB Super has made it clear that this is not Z and has a more character oriented storytelling compared to it rather than focusing entirely on fighting. I'm fine with that.
The show is not called Dragon Ball Z. It is called Dragon Ball Super. Just because something is Dragon Ball related doesn't mean it has to be like Z, or Dragon Ball, for that matter.
The show is not called Dragon Ball Z. It is called Dragon Ball Super. Just because something is Dragon Ball related doesn't mean it has to be like Z, or Dragon Ball, for that matter.
The show is not called Dragon Ball Z. It is called Dragon Ball Super. Just because something is Dragon Ball related doesn't mean it has to be like Z, or Dragon Ball, for that matter.
That worked so well for GT :teehee
The show is not called Dragon Ball Z. It is called Dragon Ball Super. Just because something is Dragon Ball related doesn't mean it has to be like Z, or Dragon Ball, for that matter.
That worked so well for GT :teehee
The show is not called Dragon Ball Z. It is called Dragon Ball Super. Just because something is Dragon Ball related doesn't mean it has to be like Z, or Dragon Ball, for that matter.
That worked so well for GT :teehee
GT sucked not because of what I said, but because the characterization and everything about it was shit. Super doesn't have that problem at all yet.
DBZ actually had good filler beyond Garlic Jr crap. Driving test stuff, Gohan's dinosaur, Pikkon, I've always liked that stuff. :yeshrug
People always remember the good filler but forget about the bad. Fake Namek... *shudders*
Also it's easy to have fond memories of filler out of context but when you're waiting ages for new DBZ eps and it finally gets rolling and then there's filler, no matter how good it is you'll still want to tear your hair out and shout "GET ON WITH IT!"
People always remember the good filler but forget about the bad. Fake Namek... *shudders*
Also it's easy to have fond memories of filler out of context but when you're waiting ages for new DBZ eps and it finally gets rolling and then there's filler, no matter how good it is you'll still want to tear your hair out and shout "GET ON WITH IT!"
DBZ actually had good filler beyond Garlic Jr crap. Driving test stuff, Gohan's dinosaur, Pikkon, I've always liked that stuff. :yeshrug
Sure, some of that stuff was fun. I don't need a new series to start with that, though. One episode was enough...not 3-4 of them.
DBZ actually had good filler beyond Garlic Jr crap. Driving test stuff, Gohan's dinosaur, Pikkon, I've always liked that stuff. :yeshrug
Sure, some of that stuff was fun. I don't need a new series to start with that, though. One episode was enough...not 3-4 of them.
3 or 4 of them seems like a stretch. Episode 3 didn't have any filler at all and Beerus will likely be there next episode.
People always remember the good filler but forget about the bad. Fake Namek... *shudders*
Also it's easy to have fond memories of filler out of context but when you're waiting ages for new DBZ eps and it finally gets rolling and then there's filler, no matter how good it is you'll still want to tear your hair out and shout "GET ON WITH IT!"
Fake Namek sucked, but it's also an exception. DBZ didn't have that much filler.
Also what you described didn't really happen with me except for the Garlic Jr episodes, which as said, were awful. Garlic Jr Saga happened in between Freeza and Android, which is why it was so fucking awful. It is the lone exception in the series. Also, fake Namek lasts only one episode. The rest of DBZ's filler is pretty fun.
DBZ actually had good filler beyond Garlic Jr crap. Driving test stuff, Gohan's dinosaur, Pikkon, I've always liked that stuff. :yeshrug
Sure, some of that stuff was fun. I don't need a new series to start with that, though. One episode was enough...not 3-4 of them.
3 or 4 of them seems like a stretch. Episode 3 didn't have any filler at all and Beerus will likely be there next episode.
:what
People always remember the good filler but forget about the bad. Fake Namek... *shudders*
Also it's easy to have fond memories of filler out of context but when you're waiting ages for new DBZ eps and it finally gets rolling and then there's filler, no matter how good it is you'll still want to tear your hair out and shout "GET ON WITH IT!"
Fake Namek sucked, but it's also an exception. DBZ didn't have that much filler.
Also what you described didn't really happen with me except for the Garlic Jr episodes, which as said, were awful. Garlic Jr Saga happened in between Freeza and Android, which is why it was so fucking awful. It is the lone exception in the series. Also, fake Namek lasts only one episode. The rest of DBZ's filler is pretty fun.
Fake Namek plus the invisible spaceship were five and a half straight episodes. :lol
And I don't know how you can say "DBZ didn't have that much filler" when Kai cut 194 episodes into 100. :lol
Vegeta and Nappa's stop on Arlia? Filler.
Princess Snake? Filler.
Hell/HFIL? Filler.
Bulma has like two episodes of hijinks on Namek. Filler.
And I haven't even gotten past Freeza yet. None of this was "good" filler either, just fucking annoying with weak writing, plodding pace, and shoddy Toei animation.
But please, keep defending those three half-decent episodes of filler. ::)
1. They established who is Beerus via the Supreme Kai
2. They established that Beerus' premonition was correct and that the remaining Saiyan's are on Earth, and that the Saiyan that killed Freeza is on King Kai's planet.
3. They established Vegeta training.
4. Everyone else is at Bulma's birthday event.
5. Beerus is heading towards Goku RIGHT NOW.
None of this is filler. ???
All of this pertains to the story. Filler is dragging out story with non-story related details, all of this is relevant to the story. The only reason you deem it filler is because it's a retelling of Battle of Gods and you've already seen that. So it's not new content to you. If you have a problem with retelling the movies, you should probably wait till the show is on episode 40 or 50 or something and then watch because you won't be happy watching it at all as it is now.
There were basically two "fake Nameks" and it was goddamn torture. Whenever I attempted to get through my orange brick sets that's always where I'd just tap out. :lol
There were basically two "fake Nameks" and it was goddamn torture. Whenever I attempted to get through my orange brick sets that's always where I'd just tap out. :lol
There were two!? Don't remember that.
1. They established who is Beerus via the Supreme Kai
2. They established that Beerus' premonition was correct and that the remaining Saiyan's are on Earth, and that the Saiyan that killed Freeza is on King Kai's planet.
3. They established Vegeta training.
4. Everyone else is at Bulma's birthday event.
5. Beerus is heading towards Goku RIGHT NOW.
None of this is filler. ???
All of this pertains to the story. Filler is dragging out story with non-story related details, all of this is relevant to the story. The only reason you deem it filler is because it's a retelling of Battle of Gods and you've already seen that. So it's not new content to you. If you have a problem with retelling the movies, you should probably wait till the show is on episode 40 or 50 or something and then watch because you won't be happy watching it at all as it is now.
All of that is filler,or stuff from previous eps Himu. :lol. They could have easily have condensed the first three episodes into two, if not one show.
Is there a site where I can watch the original Dragonball or do I have to go the other route? I only remember reading the early parts of the manga when I was younger.
1. They established who is Beerus via the Supreme Kai
2. They established that Beerus' premonition was correct and that the remaining Saiyan's are on Earth, and that the Saiyan that killed Freeza is on King Kai's planet.
3. They established Vegeta training.
4. Everyone else is at Bulma's birthday event.
5. Beerus is heading towards Goku RIGHT NOW.
None of this is filler. ???
All of this pertains to the story. Filler is dragging out story with non-story related details, all of this is relevant to the story. The only reason you deem it filler is because it's a retelling of Battle of Gods and you've already seen that. So it's not new content to you. If you have a problem with retelling the movies, you should probably wait till the show is on episode 40 or 50 or something and then watch because you won't be happy watching it at all as it is now.
All of that is filler,or stuff from previous eps Himu. :lol. They could have easily have condensed the first three episodes into two, if not one show.
None of that is filler. They could have condensed it, but that doesn't make it filler. Dragged out maybe. But filler? No.
Krillin is so lonely he'd risk the word because a machine kissed him. SMH
Krillin is so lonely he'd risk the word because a machine kissed him. SMH
Vegeta is super lame. He's like 'Ok I'm sick of getting my ass kicked, therefor I'm going to go kick some ass.' and then 2 episodes later, 'O I got my ass kicked. I'm so frustrated, therefor I'm going to go kick some ass.'
What I want to know is, if Nappa became a super saiyajin, would his mustache get all spiky?
In Budokai Tenkaichi 3, in the versus mode screen, Nappa thinks about what he would look like as a Super Saiyan and says "Think if I went Super Saiyan, my goatee would grow?".
Best design in the series is probably Android 17. :obama
Master Roshi: When Roshi quips Goku to grant "a dying old man his last wish" (referring to having Bulma allow him to feel her breasts) in exchange for the Bansho Fan, Turtle rebuts that "'This dying old man' drank the immortality elixir."[1]
Finished cell. Ending was kinda lame. I liked the Goku gave a big FU to king kai, lol.
All this rewatching has got me starting Dragon Ball again.
So good. Best martial arts anime ever.
next week should be popping though :mynicca
Love me some Ippo. Gonna have to check Yawara out.
extremely heavy lines in the new ep as well. :larry
interesting choice
The art in this show is already in the toilet.
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And the best one...
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:lol :lol :lol
The art in this show is already in the toilet.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Lk7hQZ6.jpg)
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And the best one...
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:lol :lol :lol
I've seen DBZ parodies animated in Flash that looked better than this. :neogaf
Fucking told you. Toei is cheap af
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The elves have left middle earth. :goty2
I don't like digital animation
Finished Cell/Android saga in Kai. I felt the arc started out strong but got progressively worse pretty quickly as it went on.
Trunks and Mr. Satan were the highlights of the arc, and I would have preferred the latter getting more air time.
Chi Chi, on the other hand, may be the worst character I've seen in any show. So annoying, and offensive to boot. Bulma isn't that better either. I'd say they were drawn/created in a different time, but I just started watching the original DB and Bulma is way more palatable, for example.
But that Chi Chi, holy shit— Toriyama must have had a pretty intolerable mother.
Toriyama is quoted as saying he can't draw female super saiyan.
What's this, you say? An aged Japanese man who is unable to conceive of strong female characters (other than his mother)?
::)
Finished Cell/Android saga in Kai. I felt the arc started out strong but got progressively worse pretty quickly as it went on.
Trunks and Mr. Satan were the highlights of the arc, and I would have preferred the latter getting more air time.
Chi Chi, on the other hand, may be the worst character I've seen in any show. So annoying, and offensive to boot. Bulma isn't that better either. I'd say they were drawn/created in a different time, but I just started watching the original DB and Bulma is way more palatable, for example.
But that Chi Chi, holy shit— Toriyama must have had a pretty intolerable mother.
So far Dragon Ball has been great. It feels more well rounded, more whimsical, and is definitely more adventure focused. It inspires that childhood sense of wonder that made me enjoy One Piece in the first place. And even though I didn't watch it growing up, it still makes me feel nostalgic due the style and setting.
I wonder if that will change as the show goes on, because I have the impression it'll be more battle oriented later on?
Anyhow, my biggest pet peeve, and this probably has everything to do with me watching it in 2015, is the blatant 80's era anime sexism. Basically it was hard to go through flashing, crotch heavy patting, and the hermit/oolong scenes. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to blame the era, Toriyama, or both.
I don't remember that. Re-reading DB manga now and that never happened.
I don't remember that. Re-reading DB manga now and that never happened.
In the anime it was the second episode of Yamucha's introduction as a character. They're in a mobile home that belongs to Oolong, where he hands out drugged juices to Goku and a towel-wrapped Bulma... specifically to "feel up her up."
I even gave him the benefit of doubt and thought maybe he wants to steal the dragon balls after hearing what they're capable of but, but nope, it was just good ol' underage groping.
As for forgetting characters and stuff. You can blame that on::(
1. The popularity of Saiyan's.
2. Toriyama ultimately isn't that great of a writer plot-wise. He says he didn't have Launch in Z because he forgot about her. Literally forgot about her.
It should be noted that in the original manga, Dragonball is just Dragonball. There is no Dragonball Z.
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Z was not meant for different audiences. It was the same audience, they just grew up and Toriyama changed the style again. What happened to Wrath (hitting puberty) happened to the same thing to his Japanese audience. DBZ's content is in the manga called Dragon Ball. It's one long story about Goku's life, from beginning to (multiple) end. Like in life, friends come and go. But the original cast of Dragon Ball have always been useful at least once besides Yamucha. Puar and co have always been backdrops, too. You are still at the beginning. Krillin, Tien, Bulma, and Roshi have always been constants and even when they weren't exactly relevant - useful.
You really shouldn't consider DBZ a sequel despite the different name. Think of it like Naruto Shippuden - a continuation of the story rebranded. Dragonball anime took a week break and then relaunched it into Z. Naruto's a good comparison too. Starting Z in DB is like starting with Shippuden with Naruto in some ways, but ultimately, when you look at the source material and despite the name change made in the anime, Naruto is still Naruto, and Dragon Ball is still Dragon Ball.
I'm still lamenting the variety I'm seeing here, just in the first 10 episodes, between characters and locations. Japanese, Chinese, and even Middle Eastern inspired villages and whatnot. Each with a simple backstory and cast of characters. Fast forward to Z, and everything is the same generic, futuristic metropolis and cannon fodder residents.
It simply doesn't feel like the same world at all, regardless of how long the time skip is... Then again, maybe I'm jumping the gun again.
tbh I’m surprised they haven’t done a new adaptation of Dragon Ball. There was that movie telling a truncated version. But even that was from the 90s. Sailor Moon, Kenshin, Urusei Yatsura, HxH, and others got second adaptations. I think it holds up really well but it never got the same attention as DBZ. Maybe a new one will get people invested.
The new Daima series looks like a big send up to DB.
Started og DB and I'm watching it uncut. Shit is still hilarious but let's see if I can stomach Oolong.tbh I’m surprised they haven’t done a new adaptation of Dragon Ball. There was that movie telling a truncated version. But even that was from the 90s. Sailor Moon, Kenshin, Urusei Yatsura, HxH, and others got second adaptations. I think it holds up really well but it never got the same attention as DBZ. Maybe a new one will get people invested.
The new Daima series looks like a big send up to DB.
I think DB in general need a new version completely re-animated that starts from the beginning of DB and ends with Z that ties the life of Goku together.
Started og DB and I'm watching it uncut. Shit is still hilarious but let's see if I can stomach Oolong.tbh I’m surprised they haven’t done a new adaptation of Dragon Ball. There was that movie telling a truncated version. But even that was from the 90s. Sailor Moon, Kenshin, Urusei Yatsura, HxH, and others got second adaptations. I think it holds up really well but it never got the same attention as DBZ. Maybe a new one will get people invested.
The new Daima series looks like a big send up to DB.
I think DB in general need a new version completely re-animated that starts from the beginning of DB and ends with Z that ties the life of Goku together.
Started og DB and I'm watching it uncut. Shit is still hilarious but let's see if I can stomach Oolong.tbh I’m surprised they haven’t done a new adaptation of Dragon Ball. There was that movie telling a truncated version. But even that was from the 90s. Sailor Moon, Kenshin, Urusei Yatsura, HxH, and others got second adaptations. I think it holds up really well but it never got the same attention as DBZ. Maybe a new one will get people invested.
The new Daima series looks like a big send up to DB.
I think DB in general need a new version completely re-animated that starts from the beginning of DB and ends with Z that ties the life of Goku together.
I think it's time for the story to move on and introduce new main characters or focus on the new Saiyans introduced during the universal tournamen- their universe has a whole Saiyan planet so they could have a lot of new characters. Might be a huge backlash if they do this though.
Went and rewatched Future Trunks' introduction and swift takedowns of Freeza and King Cold. Still one of my favorite parts of DBZ. That was such a badass introduction.
The last movie dealt with red ribbon and had some old scenes reanimated. Naturally the movies have a far greater budget. But it’s nice to want things.
https://youtu.be/cD-ST29AuOg
I wish they'd get rid of Frieza. I hear things about some dude called Mero.
Goku stays Goku means nothing. Super Goku acts nothing like classic Goku. I don't know what "Goku stays Goku" even means.
Goku stays Goku means nothing. Super Goku acts nothing like classic Goku. I don't know what "Goku stays Goku" even means.
:whatisthis
He just wants to fight and train to get more powerful and that's about it. With Vegeta there ends up being a reason beyond just "gotta get stronger" in these arcs.
Goku stays Goku means nothing. Super Goku acts nothing like classic Goku. I don't know what "Goku stays Goku" even means.
:whatisthis
He just wants to fight and train to get more powerful and that's about it. With Vegeta there ends up being a reason beyond just "gotta get stronger" in these arcs.
He takes nothing seriously. He's a complete idiot. Goku in the past had strict ideas of what a warrior was. Goku in Super is like "whatever". Goku in DBZ says there's more to being a warrior than strength. His main training partner is Krillin, who isn't as strong as him. DBS he only seeks strong opponents or cares about an opponents strength. He's a Flanderized Goku that has lost his essence. Still love him but he's not the Goku I look up to.
Goku stays Goku means nothing. Super Goku acts nothing like classic Goku. I don't know what "Goku stays Goku" even means.
:whatisthis
He just wants to fight and train to get more powerful and that's about it. With Vegeta there ends up being a reason beyond just "gotta get stronger" in these arcs.
He takes nothing seriously. He's a complete idiot. Goku in the past had strict ideas of what a warrior was. Goku in Super is like "whatever". Goku in DBZ says there's more to being a warrior than strength. His main training partner is Krillin, who isn't as strong as him. DBS he only seeks strong opponents or cares about an opponents strength. He's a Flanderized Goku that has lost his essence. Still love him but he's not the Goku I look up to.
They gave him the homer simpson treatment. To a guy with faults to an absolute moron. Hell, the new super chapters essentially say he never kissed his wife and doesn't remember he has a grandaughter. Extremely stupid stuff. He was simple and naive, not effin dumb&dumber.
Goku stays Goku means nothing. Super Goku acts nothing like classic Goku. I don't know what "Goku stays Goku" even means.
:whatisthis
He just wants to fight and train to get more powerful and that's about it. With Vegeta there ends up being a reason beyond just "gotta get stronger" in these arcs.
He takes nothing seriously. He's a complete idiot. Goku in the past had strict ideas of what a warrior was. Goku in Super is like "whatever". Goku in DBZ says there's more to being a warrior than strength. His main training partner is Krillin, who isn't as strong as him. DBS he only seeks strong opponents or cares about an opponents strength. He's a Flanderized Goku that has lost his essence. Still love him but he's not the Goku I look up to.
They gave him the homer simpson treatment. To a guy with faults to an absolute moron. Hell, the new super chapters essentially say he never kissed his wife and doesn't remember he has a grandaughter. Extremely stupid stuff. He was simple and naive, not effin dumb&dumber.
I also reject the Goku was a bad dad label. Goku is an excellent dad. Unfortunately he sacrifices his life ahead of his family twice in the story. Hell, sacrifices his life for Gohan fighting Radditz. The second time he sacrifices his life to save everyone from Cell blowing himself up. He was stuck on Namek and later in space. It’s not Goku’s fault certain incidents happen to make him separated from his family. When he is there he’s the most supportive dad imaginable and as a kid I looked up to him as a great dad that pushed Gohan’s (my favorite character) potential. Goku not training his granddaughter in martial arts. Unthinkable.
He takes nothing seriously. He's a complete idiot.
Goku in the past had strict ideas of what a warrior was. Goku in Super is like "whatever". Goku in DBZ says there's more to being a warrior than strength. His main training partner is Krillin, who isn't as strong as him. DBS he only seeks strong opponents or cares about an opponents strength. He's a Flanderized Goku that has lost his essence. Still love him but he's not the Goku I look up to.
He takes nothing seriously. He's a complete idiot.
Yup...Goku gonna Goku. :dogeGoku in the past had strict ideas of what a warrior was. Goku in Super is like "whatever". Goku in DBZ says there's more to being a warrior than strength. His main training partner is Krillin, who isn't as strong as him. DBS he only seeks strong opponents or cares about an opponents strength. He's a Flanderized Goku that has lost his essence. Still love him but he's not the Goku I look up to.
When was his training partner Krillin in Z? I mostly recall him in the hyperbolic chamber with Gohan during the Cell arc and the like.
I see no difference between Goku in Z and Goku in Super. But point is that in those two Super manga arcs, Goku had zero character growth, while Vegeta did, and the comic was self-aware about it via a quip from Whis.
He takes nothing seriously. He's a complete idiot.
Yup...Goku gonna Goku. :dogeGoku in the past had strict ideas of what a warrior was. Goku in Super is like "whatever". Goku in DBZ says there's more to being a warrior than strength. His main training partner is Krillin, who isn't as strong as him. DBS he only seeks strong opponents or cares about an opponents strength. He's a Flanderized Goku that has lost his essence. Still love him but he's not the Goku I look up to.
When was his training partner Krillin in Z? I mostly recall him in the hyperbolic chamber with Gohan during the Cell arc and the like.
I see no difference between Goku in Z and Goku in Super. But point is that in those two Super manga arcs, Goku had zero character growth, while Vegeta did, and the comic was self-aware about it via a quip from Whis.
Goku was naive and sheltered. He was a boy raised in the mountains by himself after Gohan died. He's not stupid.
The dubs changed some of the characterization, too. Like if I’m remembering right, even the old pre-funimation dub had Goku telling Krillin to spare Vegeta for some righteous reason. Then you read or watch the Japanese versions, and it’s Goku saying he wants a rival and somebody fun to fight again.
https://youtu.be/vPpKUl9BvE8
:rejoice
The dubs changed some of the characterization, too. Like if I’m remembering right, even the old pre-funimation dub had Goku telling Krillin to spare Vegeta for some righteous reason. Then you read or watch the Japanese versions, and it’s Goku saying he wants a rival and somebody fun to fight again.