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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Stoney Mason on August 05, 2015, 03:52:09 PM

Title: Mafia 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 05, 2015, 03:52:09 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzslobrNSxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6enkC6lF0E

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 05, 2015, 04:04:50 PM

This isn't really what I was looking for with a Mafia game, but I guess it should have been expected after the middling response to 2. Yet, I wasn't looking for just another crime open world game. The era doesn't excite, the city doesn't excite, and the character does nothing for me. It just looks like another over the top open world game and not the grounded and linear Mafia 2.

Probably will be a better "game" though.

Black Mafia dosen't have the allure of the Italian mob and I have to snicker when game developers put black characters in games. They are always really light skinned, but I wonder of that will tie into the story. Maybe the main character is mixed and an outcast for it.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 05, 2015, 04:08:24 PM

I think the premise is interesting and unique. That doesn't bother me at all. What's more concerning is that it's a new/different dev team. I'm willing to keep an open mind until I see more/play it.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 05, 2015, 04:50:45 PM

I knew it would be Rahx.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: mormapope on August 05, 2015, 05:36:52 PM

Mafia 2 was one of the shittiest open world games last gen and it had grade Z storytelling. Mafioso stories have been perfected with The Sopranos and Scorsese. Mafia 2 can't even compete with direct to DVD movies like Tommy the Tommy Gun or some shit.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 05, 2015, 05:42:10 PM

Disagree. I loved Mafia 2 specifically for the story and its tone. How its relatively understated in a sea of completely over the top games. But opinions and all that.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: mormapope on August 05, 2015, 05:50:46 PM

My issues come from tons of inconsistent details that stack up. For example, you go to Joe's apartment, you need to go somewhere to kill somebody or do busy work. Joe says he has a gun in the glove department to give to you, that he kept it there for safe keeping. 

Problem was I was using my own car, not his. I got into my own car instead of his and he followed.

Vito's dad is said to be a drunk and the he drowned at the docks. You go to work for the mafia dock bosses immediately and it never crosses his mind that these ruthless assholes had something to do with his father's death until the end of the game. The first job you get from these dudes is to beat up other dock workers.

Vito gets made and then you see other made guys a few times afterwards, being made almost changed nothing with the story and trajectory of the story.

You go to drug deal and get the drugs, the other friend besides Joe is carrying the suitcase, you get jumped by fake police goons, the suitcase is no longer being held and disappears. Fast forward to the end of combat, you guys didn't lose the suitcase, the devs didn't bother to have non Joe carrying it around.

There's stuff like this every mission. Being a videogame is a good point when the game itself isn't trying to sell you through immersion or atmosphere. Mafia 2 is all about the environment and atmosphere, and yet tons of story details and points are muddled instantly.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: Himu on August 05, 2015, 07:35:24 PM

Never played mafia but I want to play this for black excellence :rejoice

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 06, 2015, 12:52:45 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 05, 2015, 04:50:45 PM

I knew it would be Rahx.

:yeshrug

I'll still probably buy the game.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 06, 2015, 12:59:06 AM

Mafia 2 had a pretty terrible story. Every cutscsne with your sister and family is awful.

"Vito, your my brother I love you"

"If your husband ever hits you again, I'll kill him"

"OMG YOUR A MONSTER NEVER CALL AGAIN"

Sister is never mentioned again.

It's cliched, uninteresting, and just poorly executed.

But I did'nt like it because the story was good or anything, I liked it because of the tone, attention to detail, and yes atmosphere. Which I'm sure has some problems. Still, it was an open world in the sense that the world was created more for atmosphere and immersion then for actual fun. I don't want to say it felt like an actual place, more like a bare bones simulation which is why I was playing the game in the first place. I liked how grounded and simple the gunfights were. I simply liked it because I was in a mafiaso movie.

It wasn't a great game or anything.

This looks to be more of a crowd pleasing open world game. Nothing wrong with it other then the fact that we already have 50 million of those. But I kind of doubt it's going to be the Mafia 3 I would have wanted.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: studyguy on August 06, 2015, 02:28:37 AM

Mafia 2 was dope gameplay wise, but it like the devs couldn't decide whether they wanted levels or an open world so they were like eh fuck it, lets make an open world and put NOTHING in it.
 :larry

Outside of exactly what story beat you were interacting with, there was fucking nothing to do.
On rails open world.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: Rufus on August 06, 2015, 05:49:38 AM

Most of the typical open world stuff ended up as DLC.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: mormapope on August 06, 2015, 10:54:25 AM

Mafia 2 has awesome driving physics when in simulation mode, really awesome atmosphere and environments, and a neat soundtrack. 

Everything else was average or incredibly mediocre.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: chronovore on August 06, 2015, 06:35:10 PM

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on August 06, 2015, 12:59:06 AM

Mafia 2 had a pretty terrible story. Every cutscsne with your sister and family is awful.

"Vito, your my brother I love you"

"If your husband ever hits you again, I'll kill him"

"OMG YOUR A MONSTER NEVER CALL AGAIN"

Sister is never mentioned again.

It's cliched, uninteresting, and just poorly executed.

But I did'nt like it because the story was good or anything, I liked it because of the tone, attention to detail, and yes atmosphere. Which I'm sure has some problems. Still, it was an open world in the sense that the world was created more for atmosphere and immersion then for actual fun. I don't want to say it felt like an actual place, more like a bare bones simulation which is why I was playing the game in the first place. I liked how grounded and simple the gunfights were. I simply liked it because I was in a mafiaso movie.

It wasn't a great game or anything.

This looks to be more of a crowd pleasing open world game. Nothing wrong with it other then the fact that we already have 50 million of those. But I kind of doubt it's going to be the Mafia 3 I would have wanted.

Probably still more enjoyable than Nico worrying about killing the guy who betrayed him and all his friends, even though he killed a bajillion more people before breakfast on any given day in Liberty City.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: Himu on August 06, 2015, 06:40:40 PM

I DON'T LIKE KEELING

god what an ass story. thanks for reminding me.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: pilonv1 on August 06, 2015, 10:38:21 PM

This isn't old timey enough for my liking. Go back to the 30s

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: sarslip on August 10, 2015, 09:37:22 AM

italian mafia stories
(http://ist3-1.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/4/4/3/4/44340/3/5/C/x/35CxQ/tiny_sleepy_sloth_01.gif)

also pass on the tin-pan alley soundtrack and driving around putt-putt cacmobiles with kazoo sounds

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: brawndolicious on August 10, 2015, 07:16:50 PM

One thing I hated about Mafia 2 was that jewelry store heist that totally felt out of place when you end up massacring half the police department. That would be fine in GTA or Kane & Lynch but not a game that gives you speeding tickets and tries so hard to color within the lines of reality. I remember for the rest of the game, you never shot a cop or civilian again so I don't know if it was just one level designer who went rogue or something.

I like driving the shitty cars tho.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: chronovore on August 10, 2015, 07:41:43 PM

You should pick up LA Noire, then: all its cars are extra-shitty.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: brawndolicious on August 10, 2015, 08:05:13 PM

Ooh yeah, they really nailed the feeling of a car with horrible acceleration and no power steering in both those games. More immersive than any driving sim.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: pilonv1 on August 10, 2015, 10:47:55 PM

I can't remember if it was the first or second game but I came to a steep hill and maybe hit a top speed of 3-4mph going up it. Took me about 30 seconds to reach the top. Fantastic stuff

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: sarslip on August 11, 2015, 08:28:26 AM

Quote from: pilonv1 on August 10, 2015, 10:47:55 PM

I can't remember if it was the first or second game but I came to a steep hill and maybe hit a top speed of 3-4mph going up it. Took me about 30 seconds to reach the top. Fantastic stuff

that would be mafia 1  :lol 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

and that's the better one of the two  :lol :lol

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Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2015, 10:34:34 AM

I hope you get to collect Hustlers in this one.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: sarslip on August 11, 2015, 03:48:55 PM

Quote from: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2015, 10:34:34 AM

I hope you get to collect Hustlers in this one.

if you pirate it you get BBW Monthly

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 11, 2015, 05:01:17 PM

Quote from: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2015, 10:34:34 AM

I hope you get to collect Hustlers in this one.

lol I totally forgot about that. How bizarre.

Title: Re: Mafia 3
Post by: thisismyusername on August 11, 2015, 08:57:35 PM

Quote from: sarslip on August 11, 2015, 03:48:55 PM

Quote from: Joe Molotov on August 11, 2015, 10:34:34 AM

I hope you get to collect Hustlers in this one.

if you pirate it you get BBW Monthly

That'd be a hilarious piracy protection, but what is in it for the developers? The gameplay would still be functional.

I still haven't played the second despite getting it for free from 2K during that GotY 2013 award thing of Green Man Games. :'( I should correct that.