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Title: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 07, 2015, 05:31:48 AM
I'm trying to understand this phenomena.

I wonder if it's me perceiving them as such or them truly being like that? Of course there are many exceptions. Maybe it's just the nouveau "riche" that I meet sometimes.

Gawd I'm sorry you can't save any money from your normal salary which is already 50% higher than mine and you think public transport is for people that smell.

Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: VomKriege on September 07, 2015, 05:48:44 AM
Wealth means you succedeed so you're better at life and /or better access to high education and culture.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 07, 2015, 05:56:20 AM
Yes this is how these people view the world,  they also seem to believe getting wealth is everyone's goal in life. The concept of "good enough" is foreign to them. If you are not busy getting ahead (financially or socially), what are you doing really? Being busy is a status symbol as well next to money.

Some would say their standards of good enough are just a lot higher, but in reality I think there is no good enough for them as they need to keep up with their peers.

Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 07, 2015, 06:05:13 AM
Hmmm http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-jachimowicz/being-busy-as-a-status-sy_b_6130220.html

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So why is it then that being busy is associated with high status? To answer this question, let's bring in perspectives from biology and sociology. Biologist Amotz Zahavi's 1975 'handicap principle' suggests that a signal of strength (or high status) is one that is costly to the signaller (as this could not be afforded by an individual who is weak), as well as highly visible. From this perspective, being busy would be associated with high social status because it is costly to the person working long hours (in that she forfeits the opportunity to engage in leisure time) and communicates visible value to those around her (e.g., that she is in high demand). Indeed, this is the perspective that Belleza's research paper proposes.

An alternative explanation emerges if we turn to the sociologist Pierre Bourdieu. In his 1979 work Distinction: A Social Critique of the Judgement of Taste, he claims that how an individual chooses to present herself depicts her status -- and crucially, her distance from lower social groups. For example, tastes in food and culture may be indicators of class because trends in their consumption seemingly correlate with an individual's fit in society. Importantly, Bourdieu proposes that foods formerly associated with the lower classes achieved upper-class status only because individuals from higher echelons of society could consume them without fear of being classified as lower class. Instead, being able to consume traditional 'lower-class' food such as lobsters or livers became a way for the upper class to distinguish themselves from the middle class, who, if they were seen to consume these food products, could be falsely taken for a lower-class member. Therefore, in contrast to Zahavi's handicap principle, which proposes that individuals aim to engage in behaviors that are costly and visible, Bourdieu's perspective on distinction highlights that individuals strive to engage in behaviors that distinguish them from lower social classes.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: T-Short on September 07, 2015, 08:18:39 AM
Did you check out the Being A Man guide by the @GSElevator guy?

https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/ (https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/)

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Feigning unpretentiousness is worse than being pretentious. Cut it out with the vintage Polo and that ’83 Wagoneer in Nantucket.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 07, 2015, 08:30:33 AM
I know people worth in the tens of millions and you'd never know it, they stay under the radar.  I also know people who make $50,000 a year but spend like they make $150,000; these people are miserable deep down and are one unplanned expense from losing their asses.  Doesn't seem worth it to me but they're in their 20s and 30s and want to be known as ballers.  Good for them I guess.

Probably depends on the circles people run in and what you're exposed to.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 07, 2015, 08:31:47 AM
 :yuck @ that Hyo blog linked to, think that's the type of shit I thought was cool in high school

Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: octopushover on September 07, 2015, 09:23:45 AM
Did you check out the Being A Man guide by the @GSElevator guy?

https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/ (https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/)

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Feigning unpretentiousness is worse than being pretentious. Cut it out with the vintage Polo and that ’83 Wagoneer in Nantucket.

This reads like it was written in the voice of someone from Entourage. What drivel.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: T-Short on September 07, 2015, 09:38:41 AM
Did you check out the Being A Man guide by the @GSElevator guy?

https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/ (https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/)

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Feigning unpretentiousness is worse than being pretentious. Cut it out with the vintage Polo and that ’83 Wagoneer in Nantucket.



This reads like it was written in the voice of someone from Entourage. What drivel.

It's hilarious drivel though, he's put out a book now as well that I'm not going to read but I have enjoyed following the Twitter account. It's a view into the 1% mindset. hehe
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 07, 2015, 01:06:59 PM
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Worthington%27s_law
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Shadow Mod on September 07, 2015, 01:09:09 PM
I'm more annoyed with the newest gens that don't even believe in philanthropy.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 07, 2015, 01:17:12 PM
Philanthropy sounds like a sudo-term out of Scientology. 
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: dkdk on September 07, 2015, 02:51:20 PM
Did you check out the Being A Man guide by the @GSElevator guy?

https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/ (https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/)

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Feigning unpretentiousness is worse than being pretentious. Cut it out with the vintage Polo and that ’83 Wagoneer in Nantucket.

This reads like it was written in the voice of someone from Entourage. What drivel.

cmon it's pretty funny. and there's some good stuff in there.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: octopushover on September 07, 2015, 03:05:56 PM
Did you check out the Being A Man guide by the @GSElevator guy?

https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/ (https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/)

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Feigning unpretentiousness is worse than being pretentious. Cut it out with the vintage Polo and that ’83 Wagoneer in Nantucket.

This reads like it was written in the voice of someone from Entourage. What drivel.

cmon it's pretty funny. and there's some good stuff in there.

i don't get it. is the joke that it's hypocritical nonsense?

"Place-dropping is worse than-name dropping."

"The best public restrooms are in hotels: The St. Regis in New York, Claridge’s in London, The Fullerton in Singapore, to name a few."

"It’s better if old men cut your hair.  Ask for Sammy at the Mandarin Oriental Barbershop in Hong Kong.  He can share his experiences of the Japanese occupation, or just give you a copy of Playboy."


"People are tired of you being the funny, drunk guy."

"Be a regular at more than one bar."

"A glass of wine or two with lunch will not ruin your day."
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Kara on September 07, 2015, 04:22:39 PM
K you're living the dream, who cares about some jerkwads?
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 07, 2015, 04:41:58 PM
being pretentious is fun. maybe you should try it sometime.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on September 07, 2015, 07:29:11 PM
I'm sure there's some bourdieu shit that's applicable here
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Trent Dole on September 07, 2015, 09:13:11 PM
Did you check out the Being A Man guide by the @GSElevator guy?

https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/ (https://gselevator.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/how-to-be-a-fking-man-2/)

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Feigning unpretentiousness is worse than being pretentious. Cut it out with the vintage Polo and that ’83 Wagoneer in Nantucket.
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l207/fgsfdsfargeg/huey_zpsfb3e05de.jpg)
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Barry Egan on September 07, 2015, 09:32:48 PM
I wonder if it's me perceiving them as such or them truly being like that?

It's probably a bit of both, i.e., you being more sensitive to their judgement because you know they are rich, while they are a bit more discriminating because they can afford to be.  Also they are inherently better than you.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Trent Dole on September 07, 2015, 09:42:09 PM
I wonder if it's me perceiving them as such or them truly being like that?

It's probably a bit of both, i.e., you being more sensitive to their judgement because you know they are rich, while they are a bit more discriminating because they can afford to be.  Also they are inherently better than you.
TRUMP 2016
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: naff on September 07, 2015, 10:19:49 PM
People on the bus often smell terrible though. I take the bus like a pleb, i kinda like it too, but know many who aren't wealthy at all that won't. It definitely smells terrible sometimes, i've hopped on a  bus about to swipe my fare and turned straight around coz some chump sprayed a shitload of body spray or pissed they pants, i've also paid my fare then realised and been too cheap/lazy to switch and just powered through piss stank
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Kara on September 07, 2015, 10:41:52 PM
Why ride the bus when you can nearly die on your bicycle? :rejoice
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 07, 2015, 10:53:18 PM
it's not pretentious to despise the foul grovellers that defile public transportation.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: brawndolicious on September 07, 2015, 11:45:14 PM
In my experience, the self made types actually just want to splurge on their hobbies (cars, guns, cessnas, etc) but if you saw them on the street, they seem like anyone else.

When I see someone bragging about their latest trips and expenses, I assume that they are riding on their parents pocketbook. I think secretly they are ashamed of how little they themselves have achieved.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 08, 2015, 04:02:18 AM
K you're living the dream, who cares about some jerkwads?

I know I should care less, but hearing BS makes my eyes roll on the inside.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on September 08, 2015, 02:19:22 PM
it's not pretentious to despise the foul grovellers that defile public transportation.

This. So much this.

Or the assholes who piss in the stalls at sports games due to small dick syndrome. Fuck you some of us had too many nachos man.

Note that latter just happened to me saturday. 4 guys in a row, 4 guys pissing in the stall when their were goddamn urinals available. Goddamn CACs.

 
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: chronovore on September 09, 2015, 01:06:26 AM
http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_piff_does_money_make_you_mean
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Reb on September 09, 2015, 04:44:01 AM
hehe, paul piff
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Fifstar on September 09, 2015, 04:45:50 AM
It's a form of distinction. Most middle class people act similar around perceived lower class people.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on September 09, 2015, 09:43:17 AM
It's a form of distinction. Most middle class people act similar around perceived lower class people.

(http://36.media.tumblr.com/a5a0b225a39bfadff73619079c309ee5/tumblr_nlqgy6VDu01ur6l2bo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 09, 2015, 01:42:02 PM
http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_piff_does_money_make_you_mean

This is really good. Youd expect someone to say "ah this aint fun lets stop"
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: chronovore on September 11, 2015, 05:52:49 AM
http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_piff_does_money_make_you_mean

This is really good. Youd expect someone to say "ah this aint fun lets stop"

On the other hand, it neatly explains Trump's undeserved bravado.
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Trent Dole on September 11, 2015, 01:07:23 PM
it's not pretentious to despise the foul grovellers that defile public transportation.

This. So much this.

Or the assholes who piss in the stalls at sports games due to small dick syndrome. Fuck you some of us had too many nachos man.

Note that latter just happened to me saturday. 4 guys in a row, 4 guys pissing in the stall when their were goddamn urinals available. Goddamn CACs.
This is just, like, fuckin' maximum beta. MAXIMUM. Nobody is even thinking about your dick besides you, unless Tasty is luking about somewheres maybe. :cody
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 11, 2015, 08:49:43 PM
it's not pretentious to despise the foul grovellers that defile public transportation.

This. So much this.

Or the assholes who piss in the stalls at sports games due to small dick syndrome. Fuck you some of us had too many nachos man.

Note that latter just happened to me saturday. 4 guys in a row, 4 guys pissing in the stall when their were goddamn urinals available. Goddamn CACs.

fuck you
:pacspit

I take the stall EVERY time, fuck a urinal in a public restroom. Give me that stall privacy to take a quick piss and leave.
:rejoice
Title: Re: Why are rich(er) people often so pretentious?
Post by: Yeti on September 11, 2015, 10:23:07 PM
Stalls are the worst, people can hear your stream splashing into the pool of water