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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 07:55:44 PM

Title: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 07:55:44 PM
live now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbnMz7tsXjo
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 07:56:07 PM
Not that anyone is going to care
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 08:16:03 PM
Don't worry, I'll try to ensure you're not talking to yourself in here. ;)

It's definitely not going to be as entertaining as the American one last night.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 08:17:44 PM
But hey, maybe they could get this thing on the road, and skip the dramatic video package.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 08:25:21 PM
'My friends'  trudeau really bugs me.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 08:26:46 PM
'My friends'  trudeau really bugs me.

Yeah, he's a little too "let's hug it all out, citizens."   It's coming across as patronizing, imo.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
Very patronizing.  He also has kind of a strange cadence.   
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 08:32:12 PM
Very patronizing.  He also has kind of a strange cadence.   

I wonder if that's his inner high school teacher coming out.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 08:37:31 PM
Mulcair's talking over others isn't really working for him.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 08:40:18 PM
Not really buying the fragile world economy line.  It maybe true but it seems like such a cop out. 
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 08:44:25 PM
Economic debates are so hard to follow because they throw out a bunch of numbers fast with no context.  When Harper says they are spending more this year than the last Lib gov, is he adjusting for inflation?  How has the spending been over his gov? 
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 08:44:28 PM
Oooh, Trudeau getting feisty.

I like feisty Trudeau much better than Sir-Hugs-a-lot Trudeau.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 08:45:11 PM
But at least its not 'What women would you want to see on the 10?'  'my mom'. 
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 08:45:18 PM
Economic debates are so hard to follow because they throw out a bunch of numbers fast with no context.  When Harper says they are spending more this year than the last Lib gov, is he adjusting for inflation?  How has the spending been over his gov?

Yeah, I anticipate this debate getting pretty repetitive because of this and its singular focus.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 08:46:51 PM
But at least its not 'What women would you want to see on the 10?'  'my mom'.

I dread the day that Charles ends up on the 20.  :-\
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 08:52:53 PM
Got to get the 'right mix' of immigrants, sounds kinda racist and I can't tell if that's intentional or not.  It sounds like a line that would test will with conservatives.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: octopushover on September 17, 2015, 08:55:43 PM
Oooh, Trudeau getting feisty.

I like feisty Trudeau much better than Sir-Hugs-a-lot Trudeau.

stop crossposting with neogaf!
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 08:56:19 PM
Oooh, Trudeau getting feisty.

I like feisty Trudeau much better than Sir-Hugs-a-lot Trudeau.

stop crossposting with neogaf!

Don't tell me what to do! :punch
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 08:56:25 PM
People still post on neogaf?
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 08:59:00 PM
our next topic is 'Hising'? 
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 09:00:56 PM
Trudeau side stepping the foreign ownership issue
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 09:02:53 PM
Babysitting and minimum wage are not going to get you homeownership Mulcair.  (and I'm not sure it will help the homeless)
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 09:06:05 PM
Trudeau bringing up the worst growth since the great depression with out acknowledging that we went though the second worse ression is pretty disingenuous. 
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 09:06:07 PM
Holy shit how long was it since Harper last spoke?  Of course he's content to just sit back and let Mulcair and Trudeau fight for 10 minutes.

Which is where the damned moderator is supposed to step in and direct something his way.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 09:09:42 PM
Mulcair just completely ignored that question :lol
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 09:12:08 PM
Didn't know that C-51 was an economic subjct.  ???
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 09:13:33 PM
Ya just trying to slip that one in
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 09:18:37 PM
Mulcair seems pretty weak here.  (Still voting NPD, mostly because I want a real 3 party system.)  Harper is coming off as the most experienced debator.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 09:20:13 PM
'lived within our means'  the NDP is really reaching for center voters and liberals for left voters.  Seems pretty strange. 
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 09:22:23 PM
'lived within our means'  the NDP is really reaching for center voters and liberals for left voters.  Seems pretty strange.

Well, I'd say it's working in the NDP's case for me, making me less scared of actually voting for the NDP for the first time.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 09:24:45 PM
Ouch, Trudeau positively tripping over his own words there, this is not going to come across well for him.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 09:27:57 PM
Bringing up the ghost of Layton  :'(  I really wish he would have made it to PM
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 09:28:25 PM
Where's that fucking bell when you need it?
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 09:31:36 PM
Mulcair's beard is really pretty.  Totally worth your vote. 
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 09:37:26 PM
It aint me it's the global econemy :piss2
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 09:45:25 PM
thank god, it's over
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 17, 2015, 09:49:22 PM
Wait... your debates don't have 15 participants and last 3 hours? Shit. Next thing you'll be telling me, your election is closer than 14 months away. You wacky fucking Canucks!
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Boogie on September 17, 2015, 09:56:06 PM
78 days long.  And that makes it the longest election in Canadian history at that.

Helps that we don't have to waste time on each party picking their leaders beforehand.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Dickie Dee on September 17, 2015, 10:02:06 PM
Wait... your debates don't have 15 participants and last 3 hours? Shit. Next thing you'll be telling me, your election is closer than 14 months away. You wacky fucking Canucks!

Quote
At eleven weeks, the campaign will be the longest in modern Canadian history.
(http://i.imgur.com/1vN39yQ.png)
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 17, 2015, 10:53:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klmScoTMX4s

that's a really a conservative rallying line
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: benjipwns on September 18, 2015, 05:06:57 AM
I don't think that Corbyn guy has much of a shot to become PM, especially after National sacked Abbott for Turnbull.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: VomKriege on September 18, 2015, 05:18:18 AM
Got to get the 'right mix' of immigrants, sounds kinda racist and I can't tell if that's intentional or not.  It sounds like a line that would test will with conservatives.

Well I have some friends who looked into emigration to Canada and my understanding is that economic immigration is screened. You score points based on your profile, and Canada would much rather have somewhat young people already speaking English and French and working specialized and high value job in demand. It's all a bit de-humanizing but I suppose pretty much every country have something like that. I don't think it is racist, but it is easy to pander to xenophobic sentiment by how you present it by impliying that best qualified immigrants correlates to "acceptable" white foreigners from US, UK and Europe.
Title: Re: Canadian debate
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 18, 2015, 07:32:31 PM
listening to the commentators before the debate...

"I don't care about deficits"

the honesty we need :lawd