A gunman opened fire at an Oregon community college Thursday, killing at least a dozen people before dying during a shootout with police, authorities said.
The shooting happened at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, about 180 miles south of Portland.
Oregon Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum said 13 people are dead. It was not immediately clear whether that number also included the 20-year-old gunman.
State police Lt. Bill Fugate told KATU-TV that at least 20 others were hurt.
Authorities offered no immediate word on the gunman's motive and said they were investigating.
Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin said the gunman was killed in an exchange of gunfire with officers. The sheriff did not say whether the shooter was killed by officers or took his own life.
http://imgur.com/kWEvPJN:kobeyuck
4chan thread from last night, presumed to be related to this case.
This is awfulIf Newton couldn't make anyone in any position of power do anything we've pretty much handed it over to a bunch of constitution worshipping sociopaths (well, parts of the constitution anyway) and the gun manufacturers that gleefully bankroll them.
I am outraged
This must change
Ok, see everyone in a month
As much as I would like to see gun regulations in this country, I can't help buy notice that these incidents are happening to a very specific subset of our population (16-24 year old male). Maybe we should have improved mental health care for people in this danger zone of violence. Crazy idea, I know.Oh hey somebody else already said this very same sensible thing!
Someone elected someone who's response to 13 people getting killed is this:I need to see if this rep dude is someone I am capable of voting the fuck out in the future, I'm right next to Portland itself though so I doubt I'm in his district. Ah, he's from South Carolina. Why is he even commenting on this then?
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Someone elected someone who's response to 13 people getting killed is this:
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As much as I would like to see gun regulations in this country, I can't help buy notice that these incidents are happening to a very specific subset of our population (16-24 year old male). Maybe we should have improved mental health care for people in this danger zone of violence. Crazy idea, I know.
That thread on 4ch keeps pushing me towards being very ok with the idea of getting rid of internet anonymity. Despite the drawbacks, I'm fine with an internet that is linked to your real ID. I think it'd A) Get rid of a lot of the shitposting everywhere and B) Get people to think about what they are saying/thinking before they post it which basically helps with A.
That thread on 4ch keeps pushing me towards being very ok with the idea of getting rid of internet anonymity. Despite the drawbacks, I'm fine with an internet that is linked to your real ID. I think it'd A) Get rid of a lot of the shitposting everywhere and B) Get people to think about what they are saying/thinking before they post it which basically helps with A.
Clearly you haven't seen enough comment sections where people post awful shit right from their legit FB id.
This is awful
I am outraged
This must change
Ok, see everyone in a month
Full hippy rambling post incoming. You know, every time this happens we hear the same ideas of mental health care and gun laws -- personally I think it's a problem with American culture. Not even the gun culture. I see even my liberal friends on Facebook say things like "these people need to be shot" "there's a special place in hell for <people who hold a certain belief>" and these kind of statements are championed by those who agree. We have a violent way of thinking and communicating that diminishes people we don't agree with to labels that take away their humanity. It's the same way people write off anything that can be called socialism, because "that's just wrong!" Our culture doesn't teach us to understand the needs and perspectives of our fellow people, it doesn't allow for a sense of global, national or even local community. The American mind is molded to think killing the people who are "wrong" makes us a hero. We probably need better gun laws. We definitely need universal healthcare and mental health access. We absolutely as a culture need to learn to empathize with our essential human needs and see each other as human instead of subjugating each other to constant judgement in our culture of punitive justice.
That thread on 4ch keeps pushing me towards being very ok with the idea of getting rid of internet anonymity. Despite the drawbacks, I'm fine with an internet that is linked to your real ID. I think it'd A) Get rid of a lot of the shitposting everywhere and B) Get people to think about what they are saying/thinking before they post it which basically helps with A.
Clearly you haven't seen enough comment sections where people post awful shit right from their legit FB id.
Point taken. Still there's gotta be a line where people realize that if they encourage someone to shoot up a school, and the person then does it, that it will look kind of REALLY BAD on them and you'd think it would stop people from doing it.
seen on FB...I saw the hoax youtube vids going up almost immediately after the media posts went up.
yikes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5U_XD4kDJ4
This isn't a new thing, old man.
You know where there aren't school shootings? Inner cities. You know why? Because they have metal detectors and entries with lock doors. But good luck getting suburban parents to agree to any of this being implemented because little Johnny might feel like he's a criminal.
Not all gun crime is preventable. I'd rather see a crack down on illegal gun markets. Obama claimed that states with gun laws don't face these problems but all you have to do is look at Illinois. Lots of gun laws yet Chicago is a literal war zone. Why? Because Illinois is surrounded by states with fewer gun laws, which leads to massive gun trafficking and straw purchases.
You can illegally buy a gun in certain parts of Detroit for less than $50. People who do that aren't going through background checks brehs.
Stop releasing any details about the killer, period. Total blackout. Stop letting these isolated loser fucks fulfill their dreams of being known.
You know where there aren't school shootings? Inner cities. You know why? Because they have metal detectors and entries with lock doors. But good luck getting suburban parents to agree to any of this being implemented because little Johnny might feel like he's a criminal.
Not all gun crime is preventable. I'd rather see a crack down on illegal gun markets. Obama claimed that states with gun laws don't face these problems but all you have to do is look at Illinois. Lots of gun laws yet Chicago is a literal war zone. Why? Because Illinois is surrounded by states with fewer gun laws, which leads to massive gun trafficking and straw purchases.
You can illegally buy a gun in certain parts of Detroit for less than $50. People who do that aren't going through background checks brehs.
That This American Life segment of accidental desegregation with those parents in the white, affluent neighborhoods talking about requesting all the metal detectors and when they were going to be put in before the minorities were bussed in.
:tocry
Nah, little Skyler is a special innocent snowflake that'd never hurt a fly though, but on the real I'd never see rich suburbs going for anything like this since they'd have that it doesn't happen here syndrome.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34423534
Apparently this guy was a conservative republican but also supported the IRA and Sinn Féin heavily (Despite SF being one of the biggest leftist parties in Europe). That's a pretty big leap between ideologies.
I know gun control is a hot button issue but you know what also would be effective?
Stop releasing any details about the killer, period. Total blackout. Stop letting these isolated loser fucks fulfill their dreams of being known.
Stop releasing any details about the killer, period. Total blackout. Stop letting these isolated loser fucks fulfill their dreams of being known.
The media is too wide open. If you can influence most American media to stop, other outlets will just pick up slack.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34423534
Apparently this guy was a conservative republican but also supported the IRA and Sinn Féin heavily (Despite SF being one of the biggest leftist parties in Europe). That's a pretty big leap between ideologies.
It's a bit strange, but not unheard of here. Not that I think that they go this far with it, but between the abstentionism and FPTP in the UK and general electoral irrelevance in Eire, you could probably talk yourself into looking the other way. Up the Irish and all that bit.
I can't believe theres a NYT article on this shit, and among the COMMENTS (I know, I know...) was someone saying it's thanks to the culture of violent movies and violent videogames. That comment was HIGHLIGHTED BY NYT.
What the fuck is this shit? I know journalists aren't the most intelligent bunch of people but I expected them not to highlight such a dumb fucking comment. It legitimizes dumb shit like that, as if people who say that kind of thing have a point. Fuck that. Unbelievable how often violent video games come up when a shooting occurs.
I'd say there will always be white teenage boys that resent their surroundings and find solace in shitty online communities. These mass shooters are typically carried out by white dudes with middle class or upper middle class parents and they find enjoyment in talking to other angsty, confused white dudes.
I really think that's mainly it. Media is similar across the world now, why is it always linked to strife in the United States and yet people from every other first world country rarely worry about it?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34423534
Apparently this guy was a conservative republican but also supported the IRA and Sinn Féin heavily (Despite SF being one of the biggest leftist parties in Europe). That's a pretty big leap between ideologies.
It's a bit strange, but not unheard of here. Not that I think that they go this far with it, but between the abstentionism and FPTP in the UK and general electoral irrelevance in Eire, you could probably talk yourself into looking the other way. Up the Irish and all that bit.
It's a rather sterotypical view of American "support" for the Irish in Ireland itself that a lot of American supporters are willing to overlook the historical leftist leanings and the significant Marxist influence in the 1916 rising to stick it to the Brits and repeat the whole resistance mantra even though Northern Ireland is an expensive boondoggle neither Westminster or Leinster House want. Although "Electoral irrelevance in Eire" is a bit dated since Gerry Adams took over as leader of the Republic branch SF and resigned his British MP. He got elected to the Irish parliment and the party's been on a resurgence as a left wing alternative who took a fair amount of scalps from Fianna Fáil last election and current polls show they may take over as main opposition in the Irish Parliament in the next general election.
I know gun control is a hot button issue but you know what also would be effective?
Stop releasing any details about the killer, period. Total blackout. Stop letting these isolated loser fucks fulfill their dreams of being known.
I can't believe theres a NYT article on this shit, and among the COMMENTS (I know, I know...) was someone saying it's thanks to the culture of violent movies and violent videogames. That comment was HIGHLIGHTED BY NYT.
What the fuck is this shit? I know journalists aren't the most intelligent bunch of people but I expected them not to highlight such a dumb fucking comment. It legitimizes dumb shit like that, as if people who say that kind of thing have a point. Fuck that. Unbelievable how often violent video games come up when a shooting occurs.
Well it's simplistic sure but as I get older and watch kids I have to take a step back and really examine all the messages they are bombarded with on the daily. (Snipped the rest).
Joining the Communist Party. :preach
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQW6l8fWoAISL_w.png)If I ran Vox, I'd hire Milo.
@benji
Wait, is that Sanders infographic pro or anti gun control? ???
Have people irl tell you about how the shooter was muslim and he was targeting christians and that's why we shouldn't allow any syrian refugees in the country, brehs. I just smile and nod and try not to do anything to startle them.(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12043037_536365619863242_6063617442337627035_n.jpg?oh=31ac35456a6db3a7fef5e788b5c06555&oe=569F3084)
Dr. Ben Carson(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/12096633_536485796517891_7834979548250957703_n.jpg?oh=452ab562505f8c1b2a33e589a5a8ff17&oe=568AB5A7)
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