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Title: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Barry Egan on October 30, 2015, 06:21:03 PM
I still [the first half of Brick] is the best thing Rian Johnson's done.  Now that I think about it, the first half of Looper is alot better than the second half as well.  Welp, that's my post.
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: Kara on October 30, 2015, 06:23:07 PM
Orange County represent.
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: toku on October 30, 2015, 06:41:22 PM
I like both halves of both these movies
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 30, 2015, 07:25:11 PM
Looking forward to Rian Johnson's Star Wars movie.
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on October 31, 2015, 05:34:39 AM
looking forward to whatever movie he makes post Star Wars with his new found clout.
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 31, 2015, 07:44:29 AM
Man, I did not like Brick one bit.
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: ToxicAdam on October 31, 2015, 10:48:36 AM
That would be a fun list to make, movies where the first half clearly outshines the second half. A.I., Prometheus, Kill Bill, The Village comes immediately to mind. 
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: Kara on October 31, 2015, 11:22:36 AM
Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 31, 2015, 07:44:29 AM
Man, I did not like Brick one bit.

It's very "film school trying too hard."
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: kick51 on October 31, 2015, 11:41:29 AM
the dialog in Brick can go suck a fuck

WHY
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: Trent Dole on October 31, 2015, 12:14:31 PM
Brick is cool, or at least I thought so when I watched it however many years ago.
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: Mupepe on October 31, 2015, 12:38:38 PM
Quote from: ToxicAdam on October 31, 2015, 10:48:36 AM
That would be a fun list to make, movies where the first half clearly outshines the second half. A.I., Prometheus, Kill Bill, The Village comes immediately to mind.
Sunshine too
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: Mupepe on October 31, 2015, 02:20:32 PM
Both nymphomaniacs were terrible, breh.
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: Shadow Mod on October 31, 2015, 03:33:09 PM
Just have a thread to list/discuss movies/series that go off the rails.

I thought the beginning of Season 1 of American Horror Story was interesting enough.

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then it decides EVERYBODY needs to be a ghost in the house and I'm all 'wtf why'
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Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 31, 2015, 04:39:30 PM
Yup AHC started out pretty intriguing but there's a point where the show falls off a fucking cliff.

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basically when a bunch of kids/ghosts invade the house.
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S2 is pretty average to bad right away, but it REALLY falls off a cliff when

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Anne Frank shows up
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I didn't even finish that season.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Yeti on October 31, 2015, 10:06:41 PM
Every season of American Horror Story is like that.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Barry Egan on October 31, 2015, 10:21:41 PM
Remember LOST?
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2015, 10:24:21 PM
Quote from: Barry Egan on October 31, 2015, 10:21:41 PM
Remember LOST?

No.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: StealthFan on October 31, 2015, 10:33:01 PM
Lost was hot shit here when it was on. Go back and look at the thread. Niccas be denying it now.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Barry Egan on October 31, 2015, 10:51:45 PM
Quote from: StealthFan on October 31, 2015, 10:33:01 PM
Lost was hot shit here when it was on. Go back and look at the thread. Niccas be denying it now.

yea for the first 4/5 seasons.  I remember the thread for the final season on here and GAF pretty well.  There were die-hards but for most part people were just super confused and underwhelmed, and with good reason. 
Title: Re: The first half of Brick is really good
Post by: Mupepe on October 31, 2015, 10:55:13 PM
Quote from: Shadow Mod on October 31, 2015, 03:33:09 PM
Just have a thread to list/discuss movies/series that go off the rails.

I thought the beginning of Season 1 of American Horror Story was interesting enough.

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then it decides EVERYBODY needs to be a ghost in the house and I'm all 'wtf why'
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AHS is a show you have to power through. I really liked season 1, 3 and 4. Season 2 started off the best IMO but fell off hard at episode 8. All seasons blow their load way too early.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Mupepe on October 31, 2015, 10:56:13 PM
Quote from: Barry Egan on October 31, 2015, 10:51:45 PM
Quote from: StealthFan on October 31, 2015, 10:33:01 PM
Lost was hot shit here when it was on. Go back and look at the thread. Niccas be denying it now.

yea for the first 4/5 seasons.  I remember the thread for the final season on here and GAF pretty well.  There were die-hards but for most part people were just super confused and underwhelmed, and with good reason.
I'll cop to this. I defended the shit out of it. I rewatched it all a few months back and god season 5 & 6 are absolute trash. 1-4 are still fucking great though.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Kara on October 31, 2015, 10:58:28 PM
Season 2 of AHS is amazing. Dat musical number.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Barry Egan on October 31, 2015, 11:09:03 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on October 31, 2015, 10:56:13 PM
Quote from: Barry Egan on October 31, 2015, 10:51:45 PM
Quote from: StealthFan on October 31, 2015, 10:33:01 PM
Lost was hot shit here when it was on. Go back and look at the thread. Niccas be denying it now.

yea for the first 4/5 seasons.  I remember the thread for the final season on here and GAF pretty well.  There were die-hards but for most part people were just super confused and underwhelmed, and with good reason.
I'll cop to this. I defended the shit out of it. I rewatched it all a few months back and god season 5 & 6 are absolute trash. 1-4 are still fucking great though.

Season 4 was incredible, and the potential for season 5 was great. 

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I don't get how you make a whole season based around time travel and then completely fail to establish any weird paradoxes or foreshadowing or anything.  It didn't go anywhere, at least from what I remember.
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Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: toku on October 31, 2015, 11:30:23 PM
Lost didn't lose me until the last two or so seasons when they started having every character I liked doing dumb shit and/or just being bad now for reasons.

#sayidalways&forever
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 31, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
S1, S2, the second half of S3, and S4 of Lost are all great television. Haters gonna hate.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Mupepe on October 31, 2015, 11:38:51 PM
Quote from: Barry Egan on October 31, 2015, 11:09:03 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on October 31, 2015, 10:56:13 PM
Quote from: Barry Egan on October 31, 2015, 10:51:45 PM
Quote from: StealthFan on October 31, 2015, 10:33:01 PM
Lost was hot shit here when it was on. Go back and look at the thread. Niccas be denying it now.

yea for the first 4/5 seasons.  I remember the thread for the final season on here and GAF pretty well.  There were die-hards but for most part people were just super confused and underwhelmed, and with good reason.
I'll cop to this. I defended the shit out of it. I rewatched it all a few months back and god season 5 & 6 are absolute trash. 1-4 are still fucking great though.

Season 4 was incredible, and the potential for season 5 was great. 

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I don't get how you make a whole season based around time travel and then completely fail to establish any weird paradoxes or foreshadowing or anything.  It didn't go anywhere, at least from what I remember.
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Yep. Even worse was how they completely obliterated the good will built from The Constant. It pulled it off elegantly.

I did like
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the self aware discussions they all had about time travel and potential paradoxes. But to your point they failed to capitalize on them.
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They also completely dismantled the perfectly crafted villain character of Ben that was shaped over 3 seasons.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 31, 2015, 11:40:12 PM
they also ruined Locke and Sayid.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Mupepe on October 31, 2015, 11:41:36 PM
Oh God. Locke. To rephrase my statement they ruined lots of perfectly crafted characters because who the hell knows why
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Mupepe on October 31, 2015, 11:43:49 PM
Walkabout is up there on the list of GOAT episodes of any show. Those final few minutes are perfection.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: ToxicAdam on October 31, 2015, 11:58:47 PM
Return of the Jedi
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Take My Breh Away on November 01, 2015, 12:08:44 AM
Went into Spring Breakers blind (http://i.imgur.com/h1MpDcH.png)

For pure batshit insane ruminations on depression and an intense as fuck second half, Melancholia.

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Also Kirsten Dunst's tits :phil
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Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 01, 2015, 12:09:36 AM
I kind of like the end of Star Wars Ep II with how batshit it ends up feeling ... don't hurt me
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 01, 2015, 12:31:24 AM
Devil's Advocate goes from mostly subtle and realistic to Pacino screeching, jumping around the room, and generally hamming it up as Satan full-bore in like, ten minutes. It was quite impressive the first time I saw it.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Tasty on November 01, 2015, 12:32:10 AM
Quote from: Kara on October 31, 2015, 10:58:28 PM
Season 2 of AHS is amazing. Dat musical number.

Lana Banana :'(
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on November 01, 2015, 12:32:31 AM
the 2006 near-classic Hong Kong thriller Dog Bite Dog certainly qualifies for this thread. Its an almost remake of First Blood, that first Rambo film wherein a group of law enforcement types continually find themselves vexed by a superior one person force, but change out the forest and smalltown setting for urban Hong Kong, and the Vietnam metaphor for third world poverty and add a shitload of grit. Its a beautifully shot film that makes squalid places look artful, its a well acted film starring a man who was demonstrably terrible to mediocre in every other film of his career, its more thematically loaded then almost any other action film you can name and doesn't for a second shortchange the thrills, it's a Hong Kong film that eschews their traditional style fights in favor of ones in which they are all short, fatal and ugly.

It also has the A.I. sort of perfectly bleak ending that's fully appropriate but the movie still has an unnecessary fourth act left in which to shit the bed, and shit the bed it does mightily, as it falls victim to the conventionality and sentimentalism that it so deftly avoided earlier. Dog Bite Dog should be a film that I would have recommended dozens of times over the last decade. Instead I recommend the immensely talented director who made it and recovered nicely, but who really, really, really lost control of his ship earlier on.

Trailer here, tons of spoilers within tho.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbM_0jcTdQ
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Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Rahxephon91 on November 01, 2015, 02:10:14 AM
First half of Looper is really good, it just gets a little wonky when it brings in too much over the top sci fi with the psychic kid. It's a low key sci fi story and it should stay that way. Still, a good movie.

My choice is of Edge of Tomorrow. I fine action movie that plays smart and has a decent not so much love, but relationship story at it's core. Which then gets dumb as it decides to have a very clean and nice happy ending with no drawbacks. The movie before had played well on some of the problems of being in a groundhog day leak and then they save the world and everyones happy.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: qq more on November 01, 2015, 10:33:36 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on October 31, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
S1, S2, the second half of S3, and S4 of Lost are all great television. Haters gonna hate.
The first half of Season 3 was really weird as fuck, thank god it picked up later.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: kick51 on November 01, 2015, 10:47:54 AM
Quote from: Take My Breh Away on November 01, 2015, 12:08:44 AM
Went into Spring Breakers blind (http://i.imgur.com/h1MpDcH.png)

For pure batshit insane ruminations on depression and an intense as fuck second half, Melancholia.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Also Kirsten Dunst's tits :phil
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I loved spring breakers.  Not super deep or whatever, just fun as hell.

I want to see Melancholia, though i've been dodging Lars von Trier since Dancer In The Dark...for...reasons  :tocry
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Kara on November 01, 2015, 11:28:26 AM
Spriiiiiiiing Breaaaaaak
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on November 01, 2015, 01:01:39 PM
Devil's Advocate :noah

90's Charlize :noah
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 01, 2015, 01:08:26 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on October 31, 2015, 11:43:49 PM
Walkabout is up there on the list of GOAT episodes of any show. Those final few minutes are perfection.

Definitely. It's the type of episode that can be enjoyed on its own, separate from the season/show - similar to a great episode of Star Trek or other shows. In fact S1 has a few episodes like that.

And of course the pilot is very strong too.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Barry Egan on November 01, 2015, 01:57:08 PM
Homeland.  Remember during Season 1 when people were putting this show up there with Golden Age TV dramas?
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Kara on November 01, 2015, 03:08:31 PM
OT: Under Siege 2.

Get it.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on November 01, 2015, 03:21:29 PM
Roadhouse

Oceans 12

Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Shadow Mod on November 01, 2015, 03:51:05 PM
Luther started out pretty cool and then I was just like "oh this is getting ridiculous."
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: tiesto on November 01, 2015, 08:34:42 PM
Vanilla Sky - what I thought was gonna be your basic psycho stalker love story film got a crazy sci-fi final act. Personally, I loved it.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Mupepe on November 01, 2015, 08:53:17 PM
Quote from: tiesto on November 01, 2015, 08:34:42 PM
Vanilla Sky - what I thought was gonna be your basic psycho stalker love story film got a crazy sci-fi final act. Personally, I loved it.
Me too. The Spanish version is also great.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on November 02, 2015, 05:02:06 AM
If we're gonna talk good movies that drastically change course at some point, I feel very much the need to speak in favor of The Tall Man. Which only seems like the standard issue genre thriller that its trailer appears to sell. The first half of the film is actually a very well done, quite gripping thriller about a women trying to retrieve her child from the clutches of the titular villian, the pivot that takes place later on is really clever and in effect stops the film dead in its tracks, but it becomes no less absorbing all the while. Becoming a very well done chase and stalk thriller into an open ended psychological drama and doing both rather well is no small feat. From the director of the also appropriate for this thread Martyrs.

Hugely deceptive and accurate trailer ahoy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQiZ-llvYwM
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Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 02, 2015, 03:07:37 PM
Quote from: Barry Egan on November 01, 2015, 01:57:08 PM
Homeland.  Remember during Season 1 when people were putting this show up there with Golden Age TV dramas?

S2 was a disaster. I liked a decent amount of S3. S4 is good from what I've seen (haven't finished). But S1 is still the only truly great season of the show.

I heard S5 is shitty so far.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Samson Manhug on November 02, 2015, 05:50:00 PM
Quote from: WRATH VICE™ on November 01, 2015, 11:36:44 PM
I really, really like Vanilla Sky. Thought I was the only one.

I still listen to the soundtrack.  :mynicca
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: toku on November 03, 2015, 03:16:15 AM
The funniest thing about The Killing to me is even by fan accounts the good season seams to be s3 and that was all on Peter Sarsgaard's performance. It's considered good not because of the two principals or the original case that got it started  :lol
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 03, 2015, 04:34:31 AM
Just watch the Danish version
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2015, 05:23:29 PM
The Killing probably has more red herrings than any other show, ever. The writing/plotting was laughable.

I never watched S2, despite S1 ending with quite an interesting cliff hanger.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Steve Contra on November 03, 2015, 05:27:07 PM
The killing was a one season plot that got strung along for 2 seasons, and it suffered badly because of that.  Still pretty good though because Mireille Enos plays an amazing version of a women who would marry Karakand for half a year and hate him the rest of her life.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2015, 05:32:29 PM
S1 had a couple really good episodes. For instance the one where they found the video of the victim and her alleged killers partying. Also the dude cop was cool.

Still the red herrings lol. Remember the black teacher :dead
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Steve Contra on November 03, 2015, 05:33:28 PM
Was he the suspected terrorist?  I can't even keep them all straight.
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: toku on November 03, 2015, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on November 03, 2015, 05:33:28 PM
Was he the suspected terrorist?  I can't even keep them all straight.

iirc they thought he was sleeping with her on the low because they were suspicously close or some shit?
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 03, 2015, 05:38:52 PM
Quote from: toku on November 03, 2015, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on November 03, 2015, 05:33:28 PM
Was he the suspected terrorist?  I can't even keep them all straight.

iirc they thought he was sleeping with her on the low because they were suspicously close or some shit?

He married a former student and was very domineering of his wife, so he became a suspect despite not doing anything suspicious when he learned about Laura Palmer's whatsherface's death.

Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Kara on November 03, 2015, 05:46:53 PM
Quote from: Steve Contra on November 03, 2015, 05:27:07 PM
The killing was a one season plot that got strung along for 2 seasons, and it suffered badly because of that.  Still pretty good though because Mireille Enos plays an amazing version of a women who would marry Karakand for half a year and hate him the rest of her life.

:dead sold
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on November 04, 2015, 01:11:30 PM
Snowpiercer :hitler
Title: Re: Movies That Go Off The Rails Thread
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on November 04, 2015, 02:08:10 PM
Quote from: Swishercrat on November 04, 2015, 01:11:30 PM
Snowpiercer :hitler
Silver Streak