THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: mormapope on January 15, 2016, 02:08:12 PM
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Has anyone around here played it or played through it? Is it better or worse than Code Veronica?
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it can't be worse than cv.
cv is hot dookie. ass game.
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Things that are terrible about Code Veronica:
Enemies aren't scary visually, they somehow looks less defined and cool than classic RE zombies.
Area design and art design is incredibly weak.
Wesker becomes Neo, has many chances to murder Claire and Chris, doesn't for some reason.
Puzzles are incredibly lacking, game relies of fetching and delivering way too much.
Boss fights all sucked.
Tons of scenarios where you're fucked if you didn't manage your invetory for upcoming and unknown shit.
Steve.
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I dont think any Resident Evil is bad. I can replay any of them.
Zero is good, but having to swap items around is annoying. The fact it is one game now instead of two discs could help with progression as well.
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Things that are terrible about Code Veronica:
Enemies aren't scary visually, they somehow looks less defined and cool than classic RE zombies.
Area design and art design is incredibly weak.
Wesker becomes Neo, has many chances to murder Claire and Chris, doesn't for some reason.
Puzzles are incredibly lacking, game relies of fetching and delivering way too much.
Boss fights all sucked.
Tons of scenarios where you're fucked if you didn't manage your invetory for upcoming and unknown shit.
Steve.
Bandersnatches and level design that places item boxes and typewriters 50 minutes away from each other. Shit game.
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I played zero when it came out. Its good. The main thing it suffered from was that REmake had come out just a few months before hand and its a much much better game and so there was a bit of fatigue with it.
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foh zero is worse than cv and the worst numbered re. let's go over why:
-barely any zombies. most of the enemies and bosses are giant bugs or animals. that's boring
-you control two characters at once. most of the time they follow you, but around strong enemies and the last boss you're fucked
-no item boxes. you leave items on the ground which sounds good but just means more backtracking
-THE FUCKING HOOKSHOT. 3/4 of the way thru the game you randomly need a hookshot you used at the beginning. since there's no item boxes this means you gotta run all the way back to the start. then the game puts a bunch of new enemies in to get in your way. ridiculous padding. also iirc the game does it again right before the end
-the only minigame is a shitty collect a thon that forces you to do it all in one go, which takes over an hour. there's no saves.
the presentation is real good, but overall its frustrating and kind of boring.
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oh yeah also forgot that the premise is stupid. "there's a SECOND mansion with a SECOND evil lab in it!" great job guys
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Definitely don't want to spend money on this if it has those issues.
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I think you should anyway.
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I haven't played 0. :lol All I know is that CV is ASS.
0 is even WORSE? :lol STAY WAY. :lol
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Zero is great. Item management is distinguished mentally-challenged in it, but otherwise it's a good RE.
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I think you should anyway.
You liked Advent Rising, though. So, no.
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Has anyone around here played it or played through it? Is it better or worse than Code Veronica?
IMO:
3 > 2=1 > 4 >>>> 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 > CVX = 6
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4 > Remake > 1 > 6 > 2 > 3 > Code Veronica = 5
I value RE6 for its mechanics. It has busted as fuck design choices when it comes to levels and gameplay sections, but I love the fuck outta the game due to it combat and story.
RE5 might be the most competent yet boring AAA third person shooter of all time.
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zero has good atmosphere. otherwise it blows.
also ranking 6 over 2 should be grounds for leper status
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Do you consider RE2 to be a better game than RE4?
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RE4 > RE2 > RE3 > RE5 > RE1 > REmake >>>>> CV
Don't mistake the low ranking for REmake as me thinking it's a bad game. It isn't. It's just that the game isn't fun for me to play. Crimson Heads, backtracking for oil, the haunting atmosphere. The game is scary as fuck and I just can't replay it. Objectively I think it's the best traditonal RE but in terms of me wanting to play it at any given time? I'd prefer the original. :stahp
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Do you consider RE2 to be a better game than RE4?
yes ofc. re4 is damn near a perfect game.
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Do you consider RE2 to be a better game than RE4?
yes ofc. re4 is damn near a perfect game.
he said do you consider re2 better 4
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RE6 mercenaries :lawd
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Steve is awesome, fuck the haters
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Do you consider RE2 to be a better game than RE4?
Yes. Easily.
Classic RE > Nu-RE-post4. :smug
4 is a good game. But it isn't a good Resident Evil. :smug
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Then why isn't REmake number 1 with your rankings
:bolo
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Then why isn't REmake number 1 with your rankings
:bolo
Implying I can put REmake over 1. They're both classics and my babies. So just mentally include REmake under the 1 umbrella. :bolo
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Speaking of which, post-4 the one title I really want a PC port of but never will get is the Outbreak series. There's so much raw potential there for the classic survival horror scenarios to be done in/with but Capcom went pure-action horror co-op with 5/6. :yuck
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Outbreak was released at the wrong time completely. Broadband wasn't the standard, would've been really rad to play Outbreak with other people (my family had dial up until 2006).
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Do you consider RE2 to be a better game than RE4?
yes ofc. re4 is damn near a perfect game.
he said do you consider re2 better 4
my bad i meant 4 is better than 2
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(http://i.imgur.com/HD9mAvy.png)
Never played 0 and it was 16 bucks. :yeshrug
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Fuck if you preorder you get a cheerleader outfit for rebecca. This makes my decision hard.
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Fuck if you preorder you get a cheerleader outfit for rebecca. This makes my decision hard.
Same. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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just got my preload code from gmg :D
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I'm probably gonna cop the physical bundle (RE1+RE0) when it drops in price.
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oh didn't know they were doing a physical disc, that would have been nice to have. i went with gmg cause they had a decent discount on preorders a bit ago. got dragon's dogma and re0 for ~$30 total.
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http://www.amazon.com/Resident-Evil-Origins-Collection-PlayStation-Standard/dp/B014KXMDPC
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Apparently the remake is really good when it comes to visuals, but all the control schemes are fucked. Which is really dumb and weird, since REmake HD had great preset control schemes.
Seeing a ton of complaints about gameplay. How this game felt tedious back in 2002, and that it hasn't aged well at all with its gameplay. Thank you Positive Touch for laying out the design issues, saved me from playing a weak RE.
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The controls defintely are fucked. It's like "why would you NOT have at least one scheme (most likely A/the default) from the first's remaster in this one?"
Run is on B/Circle, FFS. Who the fuck in the west has that as a muscle memory? :doge Capcom, plz.
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I'm not too far in (still wandering the training facility) but these bosses are lame as heck. A giant scorpion and centipede? Really?
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Giant animals/insects arent exactly unique to Zero.
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This is true, but the giant snake, spider and shark in REmake looked really cool and creepy. These guys look silly.
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most of the game is fighting giant bugs/animals, bosses included. zombies are at the beginning and end iirc.
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most of the game is fighting giant bugs/animals, bosses included. zombies are at the beginning and end iirc.
Nah, they're there through the game. Just used sparingly.
Also blowing through on Easy reminds me how much I dislike 0 and Code Veronica compared to 1/Remake-3. Those I can go "yeah, I want to replay this" at the end of them. I just beat 0 after 10 years about 30 mins ago and I'm like "ugh, I have to do this again for infinite ammo?"
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Sounds even worse than CV, which is a feat I never thought possible.
No wonder RE just about died. Thank goodness for 4.
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Code Veronica was my least favorite, Zero would probably be my second least favorite.
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Online mercs.
Endless amounts of content.
The most amount of unlockables and hidden shit in an RE.
5 tears CV a new hole.
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the hate for 5 is really confusing to me
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It had a tough act to follow, plus "zomg make me play as a black woman" ruffles a lotta neckbeard feathers
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As is being reminded of not having any friends to co-op with.
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Why I don't like RE5:
Weapons weren't as cool or varied compared to RE4. While RE4 may have less weapons, each weapon felt really different. That combined with getting a special weapon ability for fully upgrading and RE4 gets the edge there.
RE5 isn't spooky at all. People say RE4 isn't scary, but there are a lot more tense moments due to enemy design and how some confrontations played out.
RE4's story was goofy and is endearing in a fun, dumb way. RE5's story is just dumb with no fun.
Boss fights in RE5 were good, RE4's were much better.
Level design. RE5 has some really shitty areas spread throughout the entire game.
Fuck co-op.
I know I just compared RE5 to RE4, which is considered one of the best games of all time, but if your game is a sequel to RE4, and has the same exact mechanics and gameplay, but it ends up being worse in every way barring a few small things, that sorta sucks ass.
RE5 isn't a bad game, I just don't like it. And some RE5 content is paid dlc, which I have never gotten.
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Yeah. 5 isn't bad, but it's basically just a forced co-op clone of 4. The one good thing about 5 I'll admit is I liked the 9 slot item system that was a throw back to the 0-3 system. When you mastered that Mercenaries mini-game became hot fire while combining/reloading during climb animations or melee animations.
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I 1000'd RE5 just playing single player without co-op once because I ran out of XBL gold.
Bunch of babies imo.
RE5 may not be the best RE.
It is however, by far the funnest.
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I played through the game a couple times and highly enjoyed it. Not sure if I agree with "funnest" designation but it's a good game.
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5 isn't bad, it's just fucking bland. I played 4 and 5 back to back a few months ago and everything 5 does is just a poor tribute to something that was awesome in 4.
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Comparing 5 to 4 is stupid to begin with considering 4 is the best game of all time. So it was your fault playing them back to back to begin with with the expectation it'd ever be on the same level. it's like comparing RE3 to 2. There's no way 3 is going to ever live up to 2. Does this make 3 not worth it? Nope.
And RE5 is definitely the funnest, at least for me. The amount of unlocks and shit is unparalleled in RE. Online Mercs :lawd
5 isn't bad, it's just fucking bland. I played 4 and 5 back to back a few months ago and everything 5 does is just a poor tribute to something that was awesome in 4.
There's nothing like the sun laser maze in 4. There's nothing like Licker lab in 4. There's nothing the chapter with the towns separated by the boat in 4. Saying 5 is a tribute to 4 makes no sense.
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You can compare RE5 to RE4 every day of the week because they share the majority of mechanics. Imagine using that argument with DMC4 when comparing it against DMC3, its a weak deflection.
Shit, RE5 felt like more of a escort mission than RE4. Most of the stress with RE5 comes from managing an AI partner's inventory and hoping they don't waste it all shooting you in the back of the head. I was never phased by fighting human enemies or bosses because of their design or what they did in combat, the stress would be "what the fuck is this dumbo AI gonna do next."
RE5 is unique when it comes to its set pieces in the RE franchise, I'l give it that.
The only Resident Evil babies are the ones that cry and moan how RE4 killed the franchise. RE5 isn't some niche title that gets undeserved hate. Most people loved RE5. Some people didn't.
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DMC4 is a pretty solid, if flawed game though.
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The only Resident Evil babies are the ones that cry and moan how RE4 killed the franchise.
Well, it did. :smug I didn't get a "classic" style until Revelations 1. Which didn't reach the highs of 1-3. :doge
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The only Resident Evil babies are the ones that cry and moan how RE4 killed the franchise.
Well, it did. :smug I didn't get a "classic" style until Revelations 1. Which didn't reach the highs of 1-3. :doge
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I only played the demo for Revelations 1, but it felt like some weird, mutant bastard child of RE4 and RE5.
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I only played the demo for Revelations 1, but it felt like some weird, mutant bastard child of RE4 and RE5.
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I only played the demo for Revelations 1, but it felt like some weird, mutant bastard child of RE4 and RE5.
It was, in a way. Which is where my ":smug " comes in. Revelations 1 is touted by people to be "more in line with the classic survival horror" and while the atmosphere is nearly there, it's still got that over the shoulder shooting and bullet-spongy enemies unless you stumble-melee them like 4-6. :doge
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The only Resident Evil babies are the ones that cry and moan how RE4 killed the franchise.
Well, it did. :smug I didn't get a "classic" style until Revelations 1. Which didn't reach the highs of 1-3. :doge
I AM INCENSED THAT THE GAS STATION BURRITO I WAS USED TO WAS REPLACED BY A CHOICE, GRADE A FILET AND WISH TO REGISTER MY COMPLAINTS
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The only Resident Evil babies are the ones that cry and moan how RE4 killed the franchise.
Well, it did. :smug I didn't get a "classic" style until Revelations 1. Which didn't reach the highs of 1-3. :doge
I AM INCENSED THAT THE GAS STATION BURRITO I WAS USED TO WAS REPLACED BY A CHOICE, GRADE A FILET AND WISH TO REGISTER MY COMPLAINTS
Except 4 was wasn't even a Grade A Filet of Cow. More like Lamb. :smug
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CV and apparently 0 were trash and the series deserved a reboot. Old RE deserved to die and we got four great games out of them.
RE4 is also the best game ever made so it all balances out.
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The major problems with 0 and CV aren't the "classic formula." It's them doing things radically different from 1-3. People say the series needed to change up, but honestly: The classic formula was fine. I'm not opposed to 4 changing things up. It's a great game. But as far as the series goes, it doesn't fit with the other 3 (#duh) at the expense of Mikami leaving. In fact, I feel like the series has been on a full-on decline since Mikami left. Mikami oversaw CV and 0, which were bad. But he also oversaw Outbreak which was amazing in regards to doing co-op in the classic formula.
Then after Mikami left post-4 porting everywhere, we got forced co-op in 5 (which doesn't excuse the terrible AI. There really shouldn't have been limited ammo there. 6 fixes this, but even then 6's problem is being able to outrun nearly every enemy if you want to where it didn't really solve the dumb-AI problem there either), forced co-op in 6, Revelations which is a mish-mash of classic and post-45, etc. Of which they couldn't even get the atmosphere of 4 (which was REALLY good at that) nor the gameplay.
CV's major problem is in terms of story and 3D-izing the areas (neat idea at Dreamcast launch, but really didn't need to be done). Gameplay wise, it's alright with some questionable design decisions.
0's problem is that it's REALLY not needed in terms of canon (caring about this, I know I know) and "forced co-op" with an AI that wasn't really needed. You could take Billy out of the entire game and nothing would be lost. Same with the item backtrack: You could throw the magic item box in and the game would be wayyyy more tolerable than it is.
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shitting on 5 but using the word amazing to describe outbreak what in the name of God
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I have no beef with the classic formula but there's only so much you can do with it. They didn't just mess with CV and Zero for the sake of it. Also tank controls and completely locked cameras were getting obsolete to the audience.
I'd also say that judging by the current state of horror games, the genre is way too quiet for games that had an action slant.
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Online mercs.
Endless amounts of content.
The most amount of unlockables and hidden shit in an RE.
5 tears CV a new hole.
Why the fuck do I care about multiplayer or unlockables in an RE?
:beli
A huge part of RE's appeal is unlockables: speed running, getting new guns and costumes and unlocking new modes. RE5 did this in the best manner in the series. RE4 has a new game + that lets you keep all of your shit for fucks sake. RE2 has two different scenarios and hidden characters. RE3 has Mercenaries. RE games had ranking systems that unlocked special shit depending on how fast you beat it. RE5 has all of this and more. 50-70 hours of content. Shit is the funnest fucking thing.
Are Positive Touch and I the only fuckers alive who played games like MGS and RE for speed running and beating it as fast as possible to unlock badass shit? Do you people play these games once or something?
Resident Evil 5's unlockables:
http://m.ign.com/cheats/games/resident-evil-5-ps3-734381
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I've played Metal Gear Solid as a series way more than Resident Evil. Two years ago I only played MGS1 for a month or two and was close to beating MGS1 on hard in under three hours.
If I had to guess:
MGS1: 4 full playthoughs (tons of playthroughs where I'd start and restart to for speedrunning purposes though).
MGS2: 4-6 full playthroughs and all VR missions completed twice, top three for all VR missions
MGS3: 5-7 full playthroughs, did a european extreme no kill run.
Still haven't done a dog tag run of MGS2.
I've completed RE4 the most. Probably around 4 full playthroughs now. Did a professional playthrough last year.
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Are Positive Touch and I the only fuckers alive who played games like MGS and RE for speed running and beating it as fast as possible to unlock badass shit? Do you people play these games once or something?
Yes :-[
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:bolo
speedrunning can be damn fun and is a great way to fully analyze and understand a games mechanics, in addition to testing your skill and memorization. you're missing out if you never tried it.
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The only game I ever 'speedran' was Shadow of the Colossus. There are a lot of neat tricks you can do to launch yourself straight to the weakpoints. I beat all the official times, and even compared times with a friend (crushed all of hers ¦3). No other game has made me want to do that.
Well, I used to race in Path of Exile, but that got boring and the races are scheduled, so it's difficult to participate if you're not a streamer or a student.
I generally find it very difficult to spend a lot of time with a single player games unless they have loot and a lot of variety, i.e. non-static content. Just can't bring myself to push through the same stuff just to spot something I hadn't seen before. However I do enjoy watching other people do it in informative LPs or speedruns.
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Online mercs.
Endless amounts of content.
The most amount of unlockables and hidden shit in an RE.
5 tears CV a new hole.
Why the fuck do I care about multiplayer or unlockables in an RE?
Because all that stuff was fun as fuck in RE5? I loved the hell out of that game. Multiplayer was a blast.
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Yeah, I never replay games for speed running. I play them for simple reasons. I like the gameplay, story events, senerioes, and just want to see them again.
That said, I do replay games pretty often.
I've played RE4 all the way through many times. Hilariously always on a new clean game, never a new game plus. I think I've played 5 at least 3 times. 2 on 360 and then the PS3 version. I just like the gameplay of 4 and 5(to a much lesser degree).
MGS? I've played through 1-3 too many times to count. Sometimes on a clean save, sometimes on a new game plus. It is fun to use tools and weapons where you couldn't normally.
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I have I guess tried to "speed run" FFX and FFXII, but only on account of knowing those games pretty well after many playthroughs.
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What I don't understand is that games like RE and MGS have replaying and speed running as a core part of their game design. Like, that's literally half of what you're doing in an RE game: unlocking shit till you get to beast mode. I guess some people don't find unlockables enticing, but I fucking love them. Getting incrimintally better shit and mastering the game to get rewarded with even better shit, and hard difficulty modes is a blast. I just don't get it. So when Walrus asks "who plays RE for unlockables?"
I'm like :what
I mean, let's take a look at unlockables throughout the series:
RE DC:
Beat the game on any mode with Chris or Jill in less than 3:00 - Unlimited Rocket Launcher
Complete the game in Advanced mode and save all your partners - Unlimited Magnum
Complete the game once in Training or Standard mode with either character and save all your partners. - new costumes
And RE2?
Beat scenario 1 on normal difficulty in less than 2:30 with an A or B ranking - Infinite Rocket Launcher
Beat scenario 2 on normal difficulty in less than 3 hours with an A or B ranking - Machine Gun
Beat the second scenario on Normal difficulty in less than 2:30 and get an A or B ranking. - Gatling Gun
Complete scenario 1 and scenario 2 and get an A ranking on one of them, then save your game. - unlock Hunk
Complete six scenarios and get an A ranking on one of them, then save your game. - unlock Tofu
I guess most people when they're done with a game, even if they really like it, they go to the next game. I like to continue playing them until mastery and I'm fond of games that give mastery an incentive (unlockables) but these games have always had extra content and hidden shit upon hidden shit and it amazes me people have never seen it nor wanted to see it. They're literally made for speed running. It's like they've seen half the game but :yeshrug different strokes.
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I dropped this around the laboratory when Billy got knocked down a well by a mutant monkey and ended up watching the rest on Youtube.
The game had potential, but there were too many quality of life issues that prevented it from being very fun. The lack of item boxes really fucked up my enjoyment.