out of curiosity, are any of the proceeds going anywhere specific?
Apparently, this doesn't mention Hillary or Obummer at all.Gotta make sure Liberals are able to see BUFF JIM™ be BUFF MURICAN™. :american :american :american :american :american :american :american :american :american
I mean, there's lots of hints and wink winks in there to heavily imply who the REAL bad guy(s) are, but still, somewhat surprising.
Even the slain ambassador, Chris Stevens, is given pretty short shrift. He comes to Benghazi with a pretty face and high ideals—a “true believer.” He gives the annex a corny pep talk about bringing Democratic values to Libya, while a warrior nods off in the background. He’s a victim and we mourn his passing, sure, but he just doesn’t get it. As proof of his vanity, his consular residence contains a framed picture of himself being interviewed on TV. We see it shortly before he is killed.
Apparently, this doesn't mention Hillary or Obummer at all.Gotta make sure Liberals are able to see BUFF JIM™ be BUFF MURICAN™. :american :american :american :american :american :american :american :american :american
I mean, there's lots of hints and wink winks in there to heavily imply who the REAL bad guy(s) are, but still, somewhat surprising.spoiler (click to show/hide)BUFF JIM: :drool :supergay :american[close]
Quote from: GawkerEven the slain ambassador, Chris Stevens, is given pretty short shrift. He comes to Benghazi with a pretty face and high ideals—a “true believer.” He gives the annex a corny pep talk about bringing Democratic values to Libya, while a warrior nods off in the background. He’s a victim and we mourn his passing, sure, but he just doesn’t get it. As proof of his vanity, his consular residence contains a framed picture of himself being interviewed on TV. We see it shortly before he is killed.
Okay this is the most confusing part of the movie/scandal. This is the guy that every conservative in the country cried themselves to sleep for since 2012? An idealistic, bleeding-heart liberal? And these same people are utterly furious that such a guy wasn't saved by his presumably idealistic, bleeding-heart liberal bosses...for some reason?
How much did this movie cost to make? I mean, because I was pretty sure there was a cap on campaign donations.
Movie Review: 13 Hours, A Great Movie and an Enormous, Enormous Problem for Hillary
13 Hours is, doubtless, the best film of Michael Bay's career. It's also an objectively good movie.
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Drew pointed out in the podcast a couple of episodes again that there is a bias in the media about what stories they illustrate with pictures and video, and which stories they merely report dryly with words.
Words do not have much impact on people. Pictures and expecially video can move emotional mountains.
Well, until now, the story of Benghazi has been told with the driest, least emotionally-engaging words the Washington Media-Government Cartel could possibly craft.
But no longer. Because for two had a half punishing, occasionally exiting, often anxious hours, 13 Hours doesn't just give you pictures of what happened at Benghazi. It puts you right in the team of six GSR's, fighting wave after wave of Al Ansar and Al Qaeda terrorists.
You know their voices, their nicknames, and, depending on the person (I don't say "character," as these are all real people, though a couple are named by pseudonyms), their backstory, their families, and their personalities.
And as wave after endless wave of attackers comes to them -- one soldier says, quite correctly, "This is like a horror movie" * -- the viewer waits for a rescue that he knows, from the newspapers, just isn't coming.
This movie is a massive, gaping wound in Hillary's campaign, and no one who watches this is going to come away not asking some serious questions about why this "temporary ambassadorial outpost" was permitted with nonexistent security and an impossible perimeter to defend, and why at no point during the 13 long hours of the attack did no one, except a small group of GSRs based in Tripoli, come to the base's aid.
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BTW: I should point out, that while the film is anxiety-inducing and sometimes tough, there is a bonus.
When I say they "fight off wave after wave of terrorists" -- you should know I mean "they kill dozens and dozens of terrorists."
In between the grimness, there is occasionally a very satisfying wipe-out of a group of terrorists.
One cheesy thing they do twice is give you the POV shot of the soldier, looking down his barrel as he fires. You know, like in a video game.
They do this twice, and the shots are brief (half second or less). I just wonder why they opened themselves up the charge of "making war look like a videogame," which you know the progs will say.
The only time I can remember seeing this done before was in the crap Rock version of Doom -- a movie version of a first-person shooter videogame.
It may or may not be effective, standing on its own, but when you add in the cultural baggage attached to it -- this is what it looks like in a first-person shooter videogame -- I find the shot ill-advised.
I think Bay kind of realized this and so tried to compromise by having the shots go by so fast you barely notice them.
But that's not really a compromise -- you either include the shot and stand behind it, or you exclude it.
I would have excluded it.
Michael Bay already gets a ton of grief from the critics, and this is sort of his first real big "serious" and important movie. I just would not have given people such easy justification to dismiss what is otherwise a pretty unimpeachable piece of work.
Wiki says budget for the film was $50 million. Was filmed in Malta (sets) and Morocco.That'd be the smallest budget for a Bay film in years!
Pain & Gain cost way less then that even.Wiki says budget for the film was $50 million. Was filmed in Malta (sets) and Morocco.That'd be the smallest budget for a Bay film in years!
I can't take Jim seriously brehs.(http://static.tumblr.com/af04f38a6c2f3acfe0f5c4332b7d25ff/2g0qdnl/xp0n0uphp/tumblr_static_ayyyyy.gif)
I just can't. I've had years of Kransinski's smug ass looks.
One of the final, devastating images in the Benghazi film “13 Hours” is of an American flag lying in a pool of filthy water and debris after the jihadi raid on two American outposts in Libya.
As the movie was shown to New York critics Tuesday night, President Obama was giving his “Everything Is Awesome” State of the Union speech, droning the words, “Anyone claiming that America’s economy is in decline is peddling fiction . . . The United States of America is the most powerful nation on Earth, period. Period. It’s not even close. It’s not even close. It’s not even close.”
So we’ve reached the point where a president has to insist that we’re still No. 1, at least in military strength, then say “It’s not even close” three times. Someone is trying too hard.
To tens of million of Americans, that American flag in the muck is a little closer to the truth. For a large and restless segment of the public, a line that rings far truer than anything in the State of the Union is the one delivered by another political orator of our time: “They’re laughing at us.”
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We thought “13 Hours” was going to be a movie about Hillary Clinton. Instead, it’s about Donald Trump. Because “13 Hours” dramatizes in the most searing way imaginable what’s going on in the country: bureaucratic indifference on the one side, things going up in flames on the other.
The movie is a study in the difference between thinkers and doers, between the theoretical and the practical, between Harvard graduates and guys who drew hot rods in their notebooks during algebra class.
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It’s the old story of nerds vs. jocks. Donald Trump has left little doubt which one he is. He has spent this presidential campaign giving locker room wedgies to Jeb Bush and President Obama.
Nerds may be adequate leaders when everything is going smoothly. But when there are jihadis gathering with rocket launchers outside the gate, send for a jock.
http://nypost.com/2016/01/17/13-hours-captures-how-americans-really-feel-about-our-global-standing/QuoteOne of the final, devastating images in the Benghazi film “13 Hours” is of an American flag lying in a pool of filthy water and debris after the jihadi raid on two American outposts in Libya.
As the movie was shown to New York critics Tuesday night, President Obama was giving his “Everything Is Awesome” State of the Union speech, droning the words, “Anyone claiming that America’s economy is in decline is peddling fiction . . . The United States of America is the most powerful nation on Earth, period. Period. It’s not even close. It’s not even close. It’s not even close.”
So we’ve reached the point where a president has to insist that we’re still No. 1, at least in military strength, then say “It’s not even close” three times. Someone is trying too hard.
To tens of million of Americans, that American flag in the muck is a little closer to the truth. For a large and restless segment of the public, a line that rings far truer than anything in the State of the Union is the one delivered by another political orator of our time: “They’re laughing at us.”
...
We thought “13 Hours” was going to be a movie about Hillary Clinton. Instead, it’s about Donald Trump. Because “13 Hours” dramatizes in the most searing way imaginable what’s going on in the country: bureaucratic indifference on the one side, things going up in flames on the other.
The movie is a study in the difference between thinkers and doers, between the theoretical and the practical, between Harvard graduates and guys who drew hot rods in their notebooks during algebra class.
...
It’s the old story of nerds vs. jocks. Donald Trump has left little doubt which one he is. He has spent this presidential campaign giving locker room wedgies to Jeb Bush and President Obama.
Nerds may be adequate leaders when everything is going smoothly. But when there are jihadis gathering with rocket launchers outside the gate, send for a jock.
what.the.fuck does drawing hot rods in your notebook during class have to do with anything?Only an Ivy League Intellectual Egghead wouldn't know this!
I bet all these pundits with weeks of Benghazi material lined up are really sad that 13 Hours landed like a wet fart.
Now that we know that 13 Hours is doing about as well as Ambassador Stevens, I guess we don't have to worry about BENGHAZI! surfacing as a major issue for the rest of the year right?
Do you honestly think so?
Lol, no one is laughing at the US.
You know when people across the globe did laugh at us? From about 2004 to 2008.
I spent a couple years of my life abroad, both during and after the Bush administration. Trust me on this.