I can't rate handhelds anymore. It sucks because I really, really liked the gba but at some point I just lost the ability to play on handhelds for extended periods of time.
Frankly, though, just on strength of catalog I'd rank the GBA above the DS. What does the DS have over on the GBA, library wise?
The PS1 has loads over PS2 so uuuh
The PS1 has loads over PS2 so uuuh
Nooooooooooooope
As a kid who benefited from rampant piracy on both systems and played most of the best games both have to offer for 2 dollars a game, I heavily disagree.
But the DS could have never worked if it only had a touchscreen. The touchscreen was supplemental. The DS's most successful games used it in tandem with both the second screen and buttons to create experiences that were interesting and unique. My favorite DS moments were ones that took advantage of that: tapping the screen while frenetically pushing buttons to fight with both party members in The World Ends With You; holding the DS sideways like a book as I used my stylus to navigate the grim Hotel Dusk; drawing maps as I moved through dungeons in Etrian Odyssey.
Much better than Hotel Dusk.
I guess every other system ever is missing this amazing utility of a low rez 2nd screen :rolleyes
PS1 has better FFs, MGS, Ridge Racer, Wipeout, Tomb Raider, Tekken, square's golden age games like PE and Xenogears
Where you even born when it came out?
this thread just reminds me that i was too broke to take advantage of the ds glory years. i bought a bunch of cool games for it a few months ago but i still have yet to play them. i just end up playing games on my phone nowadays instead.
nintendo dogs was cool tho
this thread just reminds me that i was too broke to take advantage of the ds glory years. i bought a bunch of cool games for it a few months ago but i still have yet to play them. i just end up playing games on my phone nowadays instead.
nintendo dogs was cool tho
i had a desk job for a while where i had a lot of time to play gba and early psp and ds. it was so awesome bc even then there was tons of good stuff.
Hotel dusk has a sequel?
Tbf to hotel dusk, I was directly comparing it to Ace Attorney and other adventure games. I'm more than willing to give it another chance. I recently gave TWEWY another chance and I came out enjoying it much more.
...It's a ds game. ds games are region free even on 3ds.
...It's a ds game. ds games are region free even on 3ds.
Word.
I think it was only with the DSi that region-lockout was introduced, and then ONLY for the DSi online store.
I'm still pissed that the 3DS introduced region lockout to what had been a healthy setup.
Hotel dusk has a sequel?
Tbf to hotel dusk, I was directly comparing it to Ace Attorney and other adventure games. I'm more than willing to give it another chance. I recently gave TWEWY another chance and I came out enjoying it much more.
Yeah, Last Window.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8c/Last_Window.jpg)
Only localized for Europe. If only Nintendo handhelds were still region free >:(
007: Blood Stone
007: Goldeneye
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Blue Dragon Plus
Bubble Bobble Revolution
Bust-A-Move DS
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Chibi-Robo: Park Patrol
Chrono Trigger
Contact
Disgaea DS
Dragon Quest 4: Chapters of the Chosen
Dragon Quest 5: Hand of the Heavenly Bride
Dragon Quest 6: Realms of Revelation
Dragon Quest 9: Sentinels of the Starry Skies
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2
Etrian Odyssey
Etrian Odyssey 2
Final Fantasy 12: Revenant Wings
Final Fantasy 3
Final Fantasy 4
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Final Fantasy: The 4 Heroes of Light
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
Glory of Heracles
Hotel Dusk: Room 315
Kirby Canvas Curse
Kirby Mass Attack
Kirby Super Star Ultra
Luminous Arc 2
Lunar Knights
Magical Starsign
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Mario Kart DS
New Super Mario Brothers
Nintendogs: Shiba & Friends
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Picross DS
Pokemon Black
Pokemon Conquest
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness
Pokemon Platinum
Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs
Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia
Pokemon SoulSilver
Pokemon White Version 2
Polarium
Professor Layton and the Curious Village
Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box
Retro Game Challenge
Rhythm Heaven
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
Star Wars Battlefront: Elite Squadron
Super Mario 64 DS
Tetris DS
The World Ends With You
Trauma Center: Under The Knife
WarioWare Touched
Most 3ds games come over here anyway
Mario Kart DS
:rejoice
Is Tetris 3DS still the best Tetris out there? It was pretty impressive that it managed to dethrone the OG Game Boy Tetris.
Is Tetris 3DS still the best Tetris out there? It was pretty impressive that it managed to dethrone the OG Game Boy Tetris.
3DS or DS? DS is the Nintendo-themed one...thought it was awesome. Never tried any of the 3DS Tetris games. There's more than one but I think only one may have come out in English. I got Puyo Puyo Tetris on my J3DS which kicks all kinds of ass though.
I guess every other system ever is missing this amazing utility of a low rez 2nd screen :rolleyes
PS1 has better FFs, MGS, Ridge Racer, Wipeout, Tomb Raider, Tekken, square's golden age games like PE and Xenogears
Where you even born when it came out?
I question how much you played in the PS2 generation. Hell, if you dabbled with all three consoles and pc games that gen, its pretty hard to top the PS2, Xbox, Gamecube, PC games of that era.
Classic Tomb Raider has aged like milk. You'd have to be some insane nostalgia fueled person to play Tekken 3 over Tekken 5 (and its remastered version on PS3), Tekken Tag 2, or Tekken 7 when it comes out. Ridge Racer was always a passable at best series, it was sort of a looker in the PS1 days, I'll give it that. Wipeout had one release on the PS2, but arcade racers survived in general.
MGS1 and Final Fantasy 7 will always be timeless for me, don't know how other people feel about those two games though.
It was the jump to 3D which was the big thing. CD quality sound. FMV. Everything came together that gen. Huge leap.
Jump from playing MK2 (1993) on Mega Drive to playing Tekken (1994/5) on PSX or Virtua Fighter on Saturn within 1 year is HUGE. If that left you cold then I dunno man.
Much bigger then the jump to Tekken Tag Tournament (2000) 6 years later.
GTA3 is like the exceptional title that gen, kind of hard to judge everything by that. PS1 for me was a much bigger move forward then PS2.
Silent Hill 1 wasn't a good looking game by the standards of the day, and Silent Hill 2 didn't look like that running on an actual PS2.
To say that ps2 was not a great system because TEKKEN impressed you on the ps1 is completely illogical.
To say that ps2 was not a great system because TEKKEN impressed you on the ps1 is completely illogical.
Where did he say that? I see him saying that he preferred the PS1 to the PS2 and was more-impressed by the leap from SNES/Genesis to PS1 compared to PS1 to PS2. I agree with him on that.
Ps2 didnt even have proper online, whole system was behind the game imho thats why I didnt bother
Nothing on it looked good or exciting cause I played it all on PS1 already and didnt want to waste time with more of the same
I was playing Diablo 2 and Counter Strike sorry
You are fucking crazy if you are going to try to convince me that, although playing 3d titles for the first time was impressive as fuck, that playing games with the graphics of ps2's caliber at the time wasn't equally as impressive or that the refinement to 3d gaming wasn't a huge deal.
Or that the single use of the second analog stick wasn't a huge step forward to making more 3d titles playable. You're acting like there were insane diminishing returns the second ps2 dropped. It wasn't the case. I remind you, PS1 games besides Ape Escape did not USE the second analog stick.
edit: I am convinced I'm being trolled but the video game historian in me cannot let this stand. :brazilcry
Ps2 didnt even have proper online, whole system was behind the game imho thats why I didnt bother
Nothing on it looked good or exciting cause I played it all on PS1 already and didnt want to waste time with more of the same
I was playing Diablo 2 and Counter Strike sorry
You are fucking crazy if you are going to try to convince me that, although playing 3d titles for the first time was impressive as fuck, that playing games with the graphics of ps2's caliber at the time wasn't equally as impressive or that the refinement to 3d gaming wasn't a huge deal.
...It wasn't a huge deal. The games certainly looked better, but you're forgetting about something-- the Dreamcast, which was already out and had impressive titles like Dead Or Alive 2 and Soul Calibur available by the time the PS2 was released outside of Japan. And yeah, the games looked awesome...but it's still not the same impact that those first 32-bit consoles had.
also ps2 was demolishing dc graphics before dc barely started. remember the mgs2 trailer? THAT shit was true next gen
I thought this thread was about the Nintendo DS. :doge
Games on ps1 had second stick but ps1 games did not use the second stick how we use it now. It was pretty experimental.
Second stick use was so uncommon Dreamcast didn't even come with a second stick.
Those games looked great, but it was still impressive to most people because most of us didn't have dreamcasts. "It wasn't a big deal?" False.
Going from Virtua fighter 3 to 4 was a whole different level.
The revisionist history that ps2 wasn't mind blowing is.. blowing my mind
The 2D to 3D jump wasn't big because of the graphics, it was because of entirely new gameplay possibilities. Something simply being in 3D was definitely a leap, but the PS1 to PS2 jump is the biggest visual leap thus far in this medium. That initial 2D to 3D jump was the biggest leap in regards to gameplay.
also ps2 was demolishing dc graphics before dc barely started. remember the mgs2 trailer? THAT shit was true next gen
Sorry but I don't reply to people that fisk!
Sorry but I don't reply to people that fisk!
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The 2D to 3D jump wasn't big because of the graphics, it was because of entirely new gameplay possibilities. Something simply being in 3D was definitely a leap, but the PS1 to PS2 jump is the biggest visual leap thus far in this medium. That initial 2D to 3D jump was the biggest leap in regards to gameplay.
...And I would agree with you if there weren't other consoles (and PC games!) released between the PS1 and PS2. :P
Sorry but I don't reply to people that fisk!
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Replying in multiple quotes rather than the content of someone's post. It makes it easy for you to take bits and pieces to fit an argument or agenda rather than respond to the content of a post.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fisking
The Dreamcast is also in the same gen as the PS2, it would be the first next gen console that generation.
During the PS1/n64/Saturn days, arcade games were whooping their candy asses when it came to graphics. With the Dreamcast, near perfect arcade ports were happening as the norm. By the time the PS2 reached its stride in 2001, arcade games no longer had the same sheen and shine.
The revisionist history that ps2 wasn't mind blowing is.. blowing my mind
There's no agenda going on here. You're not see the perspective that the change from the focus being on sprite-based 16 bit graphics to 32-bit 3D polygon-based graphics was the bigger leap.
:idont
The revisionist history that ps2 wasn't mind blowing is.. blowing my mind
There's no agenda going on here. You're not see the perspective that the change from the focus being on sprite-based 16 bit graphics to 32-bit 3D polygon-based graphics was the bigger leap.
:idont
Lot of DC games looked like marginally better N64 games? Please stop posting and spreading fud. You sound like a ps2 ad.
Also the fucking SH 2 screens you posted is not how crisp the game looked at all on Ps2. Everything looked blurry.
The PS1 has loads over PS2 so uuuh
Ps2 didnt even have proper online, whole system was behind the game imho thats why I didnt bother
Nothing on it looked good or exciting cause I played it all on PS1 already and didnt want to waste time with more of the same
I was playing Diablo 2 and Counter Strike sorry
My DS library
999
Away: Shuffle Dungeon (I was a big Mistwalker fan at one point)
Animal Crossing: Wild World
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Bangai-O Spirits (GOAT ds game)
Blue Dragon Awakened Shadow
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
Chrono Trigger
Contact
Contra 4
Culdcept
DAIGASSO! Band Bros
Dragon Ball Origins
Dragon Ball Origins 2
Dragon Quest 4: Chapters of the Chosen
Dragon Quest 5: Hand of the Heavenly Bride
Dragon Quest 6: Realms of Revelation
Dragon Quest 9: Sentinels of the Starry Skies
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 1
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2
Dragon Quest: Rocket Slime
Etrian Odyssey
Elibits
Elite Beat Agents
Feel The Magic XX/YY
Final Fantasy 3
Final Fantasy 4
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Flower Sun and Rain
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars
Great Giana Sisters
Henry Hatsworth
Hotel Dusk
Infinite Space
Kirby Canvas Curse
Legend of Kage 2 (stump recommended this kusoge, I regret it)
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Meteos
Mega Man ZX
Mega Man ZXA
Metal Slug 7
Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes
Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer
New Super Mario Brothers
Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword
Okamiden (unopened, need to give it a shot)
Ouendan!
Ouendan! 2
Phoenix Wright:Ace Attorney
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 2
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 3
Pokemon Black 2
Professor Layton and the Curious Village
Radiant Historia
Retro Game Challenge
Retro Game Challenge 2
Rhythm Heaven
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
Space Invaders Extreme 2
Suikoden Tierkreis
Super Mario 64 DS
The World Ends With You
Trace Memory
Trauma Center: Under The Knife
Trauma Center: Under The Knife 2
WarioWare Touched
Yoshi's Island 2
Yosumin
DS is my top favorite handheld and definitely one of my favorite systems of all time. Even though half (if not most) of Nintendo's output was massive trash but the third parties is what made the system truly shine.
Ace Attorney and Ghost Trick. Oh man. :lawd
In speaking of, despite Ace Attorney Investigations 1 (Edgeworth spinoff) being kinda trash, the second game is really great. I definitely recommend playing the fan translation of that game as it feels pretty close to the official localization of the series.
Counterfeit
While I generally agree with Mods Help and Positive Touch here, there is a point to what Lager is saying.
The PS2, for all intents and purposes, is the perfect video game console. Was all you'd ever need from a console at that point and stands as timeless. Buuuut when it came to moving forward the OG Xbox is probably the most emulated. Introducing hard drive disk saving, Xbox live, more PC games and features to consoles forever changed the game and I hanged standards to what consoles should have. Unlike the Wii, which promised a revolution but ultimately ended up as a fad, the Xbox is a big game changer.
No matter how you slice it. At the end of the day the PS2/GCN/Dreamcast/Xbox generation is probably the best overall console gaming wise. Maybe not as exciting as the 3D barrier being broken, but led to refinement and experimentation while a lot of 3D gaming got figured out. Such a wonderful time to play videogames.
Dual shock has been trash in every iteration, sry
But again, regarding DC, DC was limited by its own medium. dvd allowed ps2 and xbox to do things dc never could. There's nothing on dc bar Shenmue that looks as good FF10 or MGS2 and I doubt DC would ever reach the highs of FF12 or Okami either.
Also, like I said. You're biased in this. It's pretty clear that you paid attention to fighting games, but other genres didn't improve THAT much considerably on DC.
A lot of DC games looked like marginally better N64 games.
Resident Evil Code Veronica was the first full 3d RE.
(http://i.imgur.com/HOzSJYS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4ABWC1R.jpg)
It doesn't look considerably better than a ps1 RE at all.
Compared to DMC it's not really that impressive.
Dreamcast wasn't THAT much of a leap for most games. DC is a system with a whole lot of fighters, so those look great. But a lot of other games? PS2 knocked those out before it even got warmed up. It's not even close. I think a lot of people put Dreamcast on a pedestal, as great a system it was. With few exceptions, it wasn't particularly mind blowing. What DC is great at is fidelity in that it had HD capabilities other systems didn't have. So DC has aged better than those in that you can hook one up today with vga and it'd look great, but if you hook up a ps2 with component cables to an lcd you're going to have a bad time.
What's the battery life on the DS4? I remember DS3's fine being from what I remember.
Games on ps1 had second stick but ps1 games did not use the second stick how we use it now. It was pretty experimental. Most ps1 games didn't even use the stick. Ape escape was the first that truly used it in a meaningful way. Second stick use was so uncommon Dreamcast didn't even come with a second stick. In those days cameras were dictated by bumpers, mostly L1 and R1 or in DC's case, both triggers. That said the first game to use the analog stick for camera controls was a ps1 game: Alien Resurrection which came out in 2000. Halo and Timesplitters popularized it. The second stick was barely used in most ps1 games. And "requiring" second stick is a pretty big deal considering that's the entire point of the second sticks modern use: it's a required feature.
I was trying to find the cable to my stereo and I stumbled across a shoebox that had most of my DS collection in it.Star Fox Command was trash after a while. It was somewhat fun at first but it got really repetitive and just very bothersome dealing with the damn missles. :lol The endings were so bad too, it was fanfiction level, not even kidding.I haven't even played a lot of these games :doge I think I'll start up one of them tomorrow, any suggestions on what I should pick?spoiler (click to show/hide)(http://i.imgur.com/RHGnp5c.jpg)[close]
Choose from:
Drill Dozer
Drawn to Life
Contact
Puzzle Quest
Starfox Command (didn't even know there was a DS Starfox game, let alone that I owned it :doge)
Pokémon White
The World Ends With You
Meteos Disney Magic (Not Pictured)
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon (Not Pictured)
I didn't know there was another Meteos game. Had a lot of fun with that one.It seems Drill Dozer is rising up a bit in price. It used to be 10ish dollars new and sealed a few years back, but now that's not even the price for used. (It's 15 bucks used according to amazon) Wonder what spiked it? Sudden awareness?
I wish I still had Drill Dozer for the GBA. I don't have much drive to get old DS games but I'd like to own some GBA games I never had or no longer own again.
DSi :lawdDSiXL and the screen quality on both :lawd :lawd
I was trying to find the cable to my stereo and I stumbled across a shoebox that had most of my DS collection in it.I haven't even played a lot of these games :doge I think I'll start up one of them tomorrow, any suggestions on what I should pick?spoiler (click to show/hide)(http://i.imgur.com/RHGnp5c.jpg)[close]
Choose from:
Drill Dozer
Drawn to Life
Contact
Puzzle Quest
Starfox Command (didn't even know there was a DS Starfox game, let alone that I owned it :doge)
Pokémon White
The World Ends With You
Meteos Disney Magic (Not Pictured)
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon (Not Pictured)