Based on conversations with developers who have spoken with Sony, this ‘PS4.5’ will include an upgraded GPU both to support high-end 4K resolution for games and add more processing power that can enhance the games supported by PlayStation VR, the headset Sony will launch this fall. It’s unclear if ‘PS4.5’ is an official name or just a nickname that developers have been using. One developer jokingly called it the ‘PS4K’ while telling me about the device.
In layman’s terms, 4K resolution is around four times the pixel size of 1080p, which is the current standard for games on PlayStation 4 and competing consoles. The current PS4 can output 4K photos and videos, but cannot support 4K resolutions for games. With this upgrade, it would. Besides resolution, developers would have an opportunity to push more effects and other graphical tweaks to make their games look better, thanks to the new GPU.
A more powerful PS4 would also allow the machine to be more competitive with PCs in the world of virtual reality. With a higher-end GPU, the PS4 could more easily match up against the more expensive Oculus Rift and HTC Vive virtual reality headsets, which are designed to work with powerful PCs.
What I can only imagine a price point of $399(PS4k) + $399(PSVR) does put them in the realm PC competition, price wise.
Wasnt MS rumoured to do the same?
I can see a 3 year cycle where the old console still gets all games at medium settings and the new one high.
Makes sense imho
Anyhoo i doubt theyd push it out in the same year they ask fpr PSVR money
I can't wait till VR flops so I can laugh. Shits going to be immaculate, brehs :aah
And to be completely honest, most of the biggest tech innovations that took off had a social aspect to them. VR is very isolated, which will be part of its downfall. We can harp on the technology not being there yet all we want, it won't push through the collective so to speak due the lonerism that comes with it.
:heymanHell Samsung is giving their thing away free if you get a new Galaxy phone. I don't see too many regular folks shelling out $400-800 for VR if they can get it for free by upgrading their phone, which they spend all their time using anyway.
I can see it being a big thing if they make it the focal point of a new console, but as an add-on? I don't know if this will be 32X levels of bad, but maybe it will be like the Sega CD. I know there's got to be a big difference in quality, but I can't see Joe Average Consumer-guy caring when he can buy Google Cardboard for his phone for like twenty bucks or shell out $100 for the Samsung Gear VR thing.
I know more about this, and can say with some certainty that the article is reaching and not seeing the details in the right light. Portraying it as a upgrade of that magnitude when the reality of the thing is much more simple than that. Sony and Microsoft both have made investments into hardware revisions that will be 4K hdr compliant for the new blurays. Its how they sell you on the margianlly upgraded hardware. This will not reflect much change to gaming, but more the app eco systems surrounding the consoles so they can support 4k netflix, amazon video, etc...
I know more about this, and can say with some certainty that the article is reaching and not seeing the details in the right light. Portraying it as a upgrade of that magnitude when the reality of the thing is much more simple than that. Sony and Microsoft both have made investments into hardware revisions that will be 4K hdr compliant for the new blurays. Its how they sell you on the margianlly upgraded hardware. This will not reflect much change to gaming, but more the app eco systems surrounding the consoles so they can support 4k netflix, amazon video, etc...
- 4K rereleases of PS3 rereleases of Vita/PS2 games
I know more about this, and can say with some certainty that the article is reaching and not seeing the details in the right light. Portraying it as a upgrade of that magnitude when the reality of the thing is much more simple than that. Sony and Microsoft both have made investments into hardware revisions that will be 4K hdr compliant for the new blurays. Its how they sell you on the margianlly upgraded hardware. This will not reflect much change to gaming, but more the app eco systems surrounding the consoles so they can support 4k netflix, amazon video, etc...
There are next to no 4k content providers. Makes sense for Sony who wants to sell more 4k TVs.It could come sooner than expected, for movies at least. Most current films are post produced in 4k or 2k, as are most remasters / scans for catalog titles. 2k is being phased out at that point and digital distribution doesn't seem to have major issues coping.
At best VR is a 3 year fad. People vastly overestimate the appeal of VR to the average consumer. And will be surprised when people dont want to take off their helmets to text on their phone every 10-20 minutes. It's a shitshow that's just waiting to happen, and I await the nerd rage when things don't work out.
Considering how a 980ti runs games at 4K I am looking to see the type of performance they'll get from a 400 budget console GPU
If anyone thinks it'll run games at 4k native they have only themselves to blame.
This whole thing is so fucking LOL worthy, it's not even funny. Sony actually winning the console war this gen, and they feel compelled to pull a Sega. Wow.
Sounds great to me if devs can support shorter cycles like this
For the PS4K
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What is the point of this bullshit if OG ps4 games will see no benefits unless the devs individually patch their games?
The bad news is that this allows Nintendo to get another leg up on the tech front with the NX.:dead
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1202462BUILD. A. P.C.QuoteFor the PS4K
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1202462BUILD. A. P.C.QuoteFor the PS4K
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1202462BUILD. A. P.C.QuoteFor the PS4K
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didn't everyone stop hyping deep down when it was revealed to be a free2play w/ IAP cacpcom mess of a game?
or am i thinking of another title?
either deep down came out a long time ago in Japan, or Capcom has a different online dragons dogma game bc i saw plenty of people stemming it awhile ago. looked like a good ass game from what i saw
didn't everyone stop hyping deep down when it was revealed to be a free2play w/ IAP cacpcom mess of a game?
or am i thinking of another title?
Throughout the documents, Sony repeatedly reminds developers that the frame rate of games in NEO Mode must meet or exceed the frame rate of the game on the original PS4 system.
I predicted myself to be at 2 if this ever happened. And now that it is essentially confirmed I am at two and will definitely stay at two. PS4 will be my last console. (unless the NX really blows my mind, which I strongly doubt)
Bookmark this post and quote me whenever, I will be out for life.
dunno why neogaf is so salty that ps4 will get an update after 3/4 years
who wants another 6/7 year gen?
So...With this Sony is accepting that they sold us an pretty underpowered system, that in the end "wasn´t really next gen". Pretty fucked up, ¿huh?
Other thing would be that this model would ends up being an slim model VR-4K ready...i mean..they already lie with the ultra HD thing for multimediahttp://http://www.techradar.com/news...-games-1132919, but being honest i don´t give a fuck about 4k and VR yet...
For me the FAIREST SCENARIO would be this NEO model shipping in q4 2017, and at the same time they release some sort of upgrade kit for OG PS4, without force us to sell our existing PS4 to enjoy NEO..that would be fairer, because they do it 4 years later the original lauch..THAT will make sense...all of this without leaving OG PS4 support at all and releasing all the library for both systems...because you will have the chance to upgrade your system for 2018-2019 without feeling massively CHEATED...
If a miracle occurs and this NEO thing happen in the way that i´m dreaming...fuck it...i´d say i´m on it!....But SONY can go to hell if they are announcing and releasing this shit this year, plus the 400 $ for the VR....with just The Order, Driveclub and Uncharted 4 as the few games that can really technically speaking be named as next gen titles, and a catalogue plagued with upgraded PS360 ports and remasters...
With all the respect for the people here, but i really cannot understand how can you be ok with this....So the 400 that you pay for your current PS4 haven´t been justified...but you´re agree for paying more for a brand new system that will include ALL THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED ON the so called Next gen system that you already bought!!!
Companies check these forums, check social media to see the reactions of the rumors...and for every person saying "day one", they feel confident to release this kind of fucked up things ...This, until the day that they force us to buy new hardware every year, or to pay susbscription every monht of our life to play in the cloud....Then...you don´t ask why the industry suck that much nowadys! It´s thanks to you "MR DAY 1"!! May be the ones OK with this live in a country where the money is raised on the trees, and don´t have to work hard for it!
people that whine "it's not fair!!!" when they don't have the latest tech anymore are just...
people that whine "it's not fair!!!" when they don't have the latest tech anymore are just...If they bought a PS4 then they never did. :teehee
people that whine "it's not fair!!!" when they don't have the latest tech anymore are just...
and at the same time they release some sort of upgrade kit for OG PS4Just stick those extra CU's on a USB dongle with the unlock code to raise all the chip clocks jeez.
Wow Id want that, but waiting till 2017 hmmm
Who wants more "upgraded console" fuckery?
Next Xbox codenamed: "Scorpio" is 45% stronger than PS4 Neo. Releasing in 2017 (http://www.polygon.com/2016/5/25/11774294/xbox-one-slim-one-two-scorpio)
Wow Id want that, but waiting till 2017 hmmm
I dunno, the original PS4/Bone cycle (even if it's not one like we had before) will have been pretty short as it is even by 2017. I may only represent myself here but I am still on PS3 and on the fence on whatever hardware I could buy (tho it's probably be PC if I can afford it, money reasons and professional needs to take into account).
Who wants more "upgraded console" fuckery?The name doesn't emphasize that you can also play most of the 360 library on the consoles.
Next Xbox codenamed: "Scorpio" is 45% stronger than PS4 Neo. Releasing in 2017 (http://www.polygon.com/2016/5/25/11774294/xbox-one-slim-one-two-scorpio)