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Title: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Brehvolution on March 18, 2016, 02:40:12 PM
Brought to you from the very well informed family of Gawker sites. (http://kotaku.com/sources-sony-is-working-on-a-ps4-5-1765723053)

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Based on conversations with developers who have spoken with Sony, this ‘PS4.5’ will include an upgraded GPU both to support high-end 4K resolution for games and add more processing power that can enhance the games supported by PlayStation VR, the headset Sony will launch this fall. It’s unclear if ‘PS4.5’ is an official name or just a nickname that developers have been using. One developer jokingly called it the ‘PS4K’ while telling me about the device.

In layman’s terms, 4K resolution is around four times the pixel size of 1080p, which is the current standard for games on PlayStation 4 and competing consoles. The current PS4 can output 4K photos and videos, but cannot support 4K resolutions for games. With this upgrade, it would. Besides resolution, developers would have an opportunity to push more effects and other graphical tweaks to make their games look better, thanks to the new GPU.

A more powerful PS4 would also allow the machine to be more competitive with PCs in the world of virtual reality. With a higher-end GPU, the PS4 could more easily match up against the more expensive Oculus Rift and HTC Vive virtual reality headsets, which are designed to work with powerful PCs.

What I can only imagine a price point of $399(PS4k) + $399(PSVR) does put them in the realm PC competition, price wise.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: CatsCatsCats on March 18, 2016, 02:44:48 PM
Has this kind of fracturing of hardware ever led to success?

And apparently this might even go the 3DX/expansion pak route?
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Am_I_Anonymous on March 18, 2016, 03:01:04 PM
Microsoft wins lol
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: brob on March 18, 2016, 03:41:52 PM
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r125/krae_man/000_0087.jpg)

forever ahead of the game  :clap
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Rufus on March 18, 2016, 03:45:55 PM
Graphics comparisons are going to be even better now. :heh
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: thisismyusername on March 18, 2016, 04:07:32 PM
What I can only imagine a price point of $399(PS4k) + $399(PSVR) does put them in the realm PC competition, price wise.

Occulus apparently wants a $1000 upgrade if their spec site is to be believed. I'm still waiting for the consumer level version of that to hit for various spec testing, but the dev kits/previews also run with that. So yeah... Playstation is close but still like $200-400 less depending on if you compare it to the Occulus/Vive and already have certain components Occulus/Vive want.

But VR is DOA in regards to price on this if they expect people to just blindly upgrade with no actual "killer app" beyond the five minute WOW factor.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: eleuin on March 18, 2016, 04:09:44 PM
 :donot

if its an add on like the 32x then maybe, but a whole new machine? nah
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: VomKriege on March 18, 2016, 04:28:42 PM
Guess my gaming future, if any, will be PC then...
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: fistfulofmetal on March 18, 2016, 04:30:35 PM
This gen is gonna be wacky with this kind of stuff. I think we're finally at a point where these companies will start doing weird stuff to stay relevant.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: VomKriege on March 18, 2016, 04:47:43 PM
4k gaming sounds bullshit, there's probably a lot of qualifiers if true (like upscaling to a 4k video input).
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 18, 2016, 05:09:40 PM
Wasnt MS rumoured to do the same?

I can see a 3 year cycle where the old console still gets all games at medium settings and the new one high.

Makes sense imho

Anyhoo i doubt theyd push it out in the same year they ask fpr PSVR money
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: VomKriege on March 18, 2016, 05:33:17 PM
Wasnt MS rumoured to do the same?

I can see a 3 year cycle where the old console still gets all games at medium settings and the new one high.

Makes sense imho

Anyhoo i doubt theyd push it out in the same year they ask fpr PSVR money

MS actually did say out loud they were considering a Xbone.5 plus blending Xbox with the W10 ecosystem, which brings more credence to Sony considering a similar strategy.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: bork on March 18, 2016, 05:58:51 PM
I can't wait till VR flops so I can laugh. Shits going to be immaculate, brehs :aah

:heyman

I can see it being a big thing if they make it the focal point of a new console, but as an add-on?  I don't know if this will be 32X levels of bad, but maybe it will be like the Sega CD.  I know there's got to be a big difference in quality, but I can't see Joe Average Consumer-guy caring when he can buy Google Cardboard for his phone for like twenty bucks or shell out $100 for the Samsung Gear VR thing.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: VomKriege on March 18, 2016, 06:20:38 PM
Yeah, I think the cumbersome, very isolating nature of headsets will always be a major issue with VR as an everyday appliance. Was always convinced 3D TVs would never catch on because of the insane bother of the glasses (not only wearing them, but having some space to store them when not used and how complicated it made watching anything with a group of people). Still convinced endgame is "augmented reality glasses".

(http://i.imgur.com/kFuBjcA.jpg?1)
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on March 18, 2016, 06:56:26 PM
Despite being really into consoles, I'm glad I don't have any emotional investment in big corporations so I can see that announcement, go "cool" and completely ignore it until my broke ass is interested enough / can afford one. My junky PS4 still works fine.

 :yeshrug
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 18, 2016, 07:00:02 PM
I know more about this, and can say with some certainty that the article is reaching and not seeing the details in the right light. Portraying it as a upgrade of that magnitude when the reality of the thing is much more simple than that. Sony and Microsoft both have made investments into hardware revisions that will be 4K hdr compliant for the new blurays. Its how they sell you on the margianlly upgraded hardware. This will not reflect much change to gaming, but more the app eco systems surrounding the consoles so they can support 4k netflix, amazon video, etc...

 
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Positive Touch on March 18, 2016, 07:39:54 PM
And to be completely honest, most of the biggest tech innovations that took off had a social aspect to them. VR is very isolated, which will be part of its downfall. We can harp on the technology not being there yet all we want, it won't push through the collective so to speak due the lonerism that comes with it.

the only way i think we're gonna see any sort of 3d catch on anytime soon is if Samsung or apple do some 3ds-style shit with their screens.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: benjipwns on March 18, 2016, 10:45:25 PM
Looks like Nintendo is once again the only company with any integrity in this industry.

The FCC and SEC should be launching fraud investigations into Sony for misleading customers on the lifecycle of the PS4. Consumer products shouldn't be rendered out of date by new ones after just a few years just because a company wants to, they should have a good, legal reason.

Posted from my iPhone.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: chronovore on March 19, 2016, 12:47:53 AM
 This whole thing is so fucking LOL worthy, it's not even funny. Sony actually winning the console war this gen, and they feel compelled to pull a Sega. Wow.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Rufus on March 19, 2016, 01:56:20 AM
Didn't even have to wait for the generation to end for this familiar turn.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: nachobro on March 19, 2016, 03:23:03 AM
:heyman

I can see it being a big thing if they make it the focal point of a new console, but as an add-on?  I don't know if this will be 32X levels of bad, but maybe it will be like the Sega CD.  I know there's got to be a big difference in quality, but I can't see Joe Average Consumer-guy caring when he can buy Google Cardboard for his phone for like twenty bucks or shell out $100 for the Samsung Gear VR thing.
Hell Samsung is giving their thing away free if you get a new Galaxy phone. I don't see too many regular folks shelling out $400-800 for VR if they can get it for free by upgrading their phone, which they spend all their time using anyway.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: VomKriege on March 19, 2016, 04:54:12 AM
I know more about this, and can say with some certainty that the article is reaching and not seeing the details in the right light. Portraying it as a upgrade of that magnitude when the reality of the thing is much more simple than that. Sony and Microsoft both have made investments into hardware revisions that will be 4K hdr compliant for the new blurays. Its how they sell you on the margianlly upgraded hardware. This will not reflect much change to gaming, but more the app eco systems surrounding the consoles so they can support 4k netflix, amazon video, etc...

Sounds basically like a PS4 Slim.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Purrp Skirrp on March 19, 2016, 06:42:50 AM
Looking forward to

 - 1080p/60fps rereleases of PS4 games
 - 4K rereleases of PS4 rereleases of PS3 games
 - 4K rereleases of PS3 rereleases of Vita/PS2 games
 - 4K rereleases of untapped PS2/PS3/Vita games

The Criterion Collection of gaming :rejoice
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 19, 2016, 07:48:43 AM
I know more about this, and can say with some certainty that the article is reaching and not seeing the details in the right light. Portraying it as a upgrade of that magnitude when the reality of the thing is much more simple than that. Sony and Microsoft both have made investments into hardware revisions that will be 4K hdr compliant for the new blurays. Its how they sell you on the margianlly upgraded hardware. This will not reflect much change to gaming, but more the app eco systems surrounding the consoles so they can support 4k netflix, amazon video, etc...

Makes a lot.more sense

Will buy if quiet
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 19, 2016, 04:16:08 PM
I'm so glad I got into PC gaming.  My 480gtx has been running strong for over half a decade now. 
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: thisismyusername on March 19, 2016, 06:59:18 PM
- 4K rereleases of PS3 rereleases of Vita/PS2 games

lol. You just know Atlus would re-re-release Persona 4 again.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Take My Breh Away on March 19, 2016, 07:32:29 PM
I know more about this, and can say with some certainty that the article is reaching and not seeing the details in the right light. Portraying it as a upgrade of that magnitude when the reality of the thing is much more simple than that. Sony and Microsoft both have made investments into hardware revisions that will be 4K hdr compliant for the new blurays. Its how they sell you on the margianlly upgraded hardware. This will not reflect much change to gaming, but more the app eco systems surrounding the consoles so they can support 4k netflix, amazon video, etc...

Sony and MS have to move now with AMD wanting to move it's APU business to 14nm fabrication as it's cheaper. And AMD doesn't have the wriggle room Intel and Nvidia has so they want to go cheaper as well. A lot of Sony's future roadmap across its entire media and tech range is based around 4K along with that. There's an additional headache of the current PS4 hardware setup would barely scrape by for a 4K 30FPS video codec never mind the HDMI and HDEC port needing an update. So it makes sense to give it a hardware boost while keeping the core components to make sure the core feature is working. So it sounds like a slim with a better APU from both sides is on the way at least. If they will bolt extra features like a USB-Type C port on board is where it might get interesting.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: VomKriege on March 24, 2016, 07:22:58 AM
To no one surprise, Eurogamer confirms it exists.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-in-theory-playstation-4k-is-real-but-why-is-sony-making-it
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Brehvolution on March 24, 2016, 10:57:16 AM
There are next to no 4k content providers. Makes sense for Sony who wants to sell more 4k TVs.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: VomKriege on March 24, 2016, 11:37:53 AM
There are next to no 4k content providers. Makes sense for Sony who wants to sell more 4k TVs.
It could come sooner than expected, for movies at least. Most current films are post produced in 4k or 2k, as are most remasters / scans for catalog titles. 2k is being phased out at that point and digital distribution doesn't seem to have major issues coping.

Not sure TV broadcast will follow suit but the thing with current infrastructure is that strict adherence to a resolution standard is much less of an issue.

Myself I'm still on a HD ready device.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: tiesto on March 24, 2016, 01:13:35 PM
At best VR is a 3 year fad. People vastly overestimate the appeal of VR to the average consumer. And will be surprised when people dont want to take off their helmets to text on their phone every 10-20 minutes. It's a shitshow that's just waiting to happen, and I await the nerd rage when things don't work out.

Agreed, I do think there will be a market for VR in games for enthusiasts, but the isolating nature of it limits its appeal. I've been to a few gatherings/parties where someone brought an Oculus dev kit and people have tried it, but it was always more of a 'neat gimmick' than something that would replace their consoles/PCs/phones.

It also doesn't help that most of the games feel like rudimentary tech demos rather than a killer app. Though I love Rez and think Rez Ultimate will be amazing.

The real future of VR is in the military and medical fields.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: CatsCatsCats on March 24, 2016, 03:00:45 PM
Pfffft when the price point on the technology is right, VR mmos and shit will be huge.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: pilonv1 on March 24, 2016, 07:49:55 PM
Considering how a 980ti runs games at 4K I am looking to see the type of performance they'll get from a 400 budget console GPU
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Rufus on March 25, 2016, 04:19:24 AM
If anyone thinks it'll run games at 4k native they have only themselves to blame.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: archie4208 on March 25, 2016, 09:22:27 AM
Considering how a 980ti runs games at 4K I am looking to see the type of performance they'll get from a 400 budget console GPU

Consoles have the advantage of coding to the metal.  Carmack said so in a 5 year old tweet.  :doge
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 25, 2016, 10:00:57 AM
If anyone thinks it'll run games at 4k native they have only themselves to blame.

Maybe pong or something
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: brawndolicious on March 26, 2016, 10:18:28 AM
This whole thing is so fucking LOL worthy, it's not even funny. Sony actually winning the console war this gen, and they feel compelled to pull a Sega. Wow.

That's probably the reason why they feel comfortable doing this as an experiment. The PS4 will be the most popular console this generation but this 4.5 thing will give them a platform to test VR tech for next generation. Next gen consoles will probably aim for a 4k standard across games to match future TVs so at that point, it makes sense to also offer the VR peripheral for gamers.

Basically, I think they want to see what kind of demand VR has for next-gen console gamers and what kind of tweaks need to be made to the technology to make it as consumer friendly as possible. This is the beta test if you will.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Take My Breh Away on March 28, 2016, 09:57:33 AM
Wall Street Journal is reporting it now and they have had a significantly better record than gaming websites on these things

http://www.wsj.com/articles/sony-plans-new-playstation-for-graphics-heavy-games-1459152941

Half of it feels like a beta, but the other half feels like they have to move before the opposition moves or that they will end up in a stagnant period like last gen where PC technology completely overtook the PS3/360 and gave away half the market share. PC tech is going to make a huge jump with Polaris and Pascal from AMD and Nvidia never mind big, "disruptive" (I know, I know, bear with me here) technology like Razer Core and Intel Skull Canyon that aims to reduce the barrier on building a PC by just making the components a case of plugging two form factor boxes together. Then it just works. Sony either moves now and takes an L on the hardcore base or says PS4 is good enough for the next five years and lets the competition get a jump on them.

It's totally the end of "traditional" generations though.   
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: D3RANG3D on March 28, 2016, 10:01:25 AM
 :heh
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 28, 2016, 11:02:29 AM
Sounds great to me if devs can support shorter cycles like this

Or PS4 then PS4S and then PS5
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: G The Resurrected on March 30, 2016, 02:45:25 AM
And they will name it the PS4ever!!!
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: VomKriege on March 30, 2016, 02:48:43 AM
Sounds great to me if devs can support shorter cycles like this

Iterative consoles, if the architecture is not too dissimilar, should indeed help devs not reinventing the wheel constantly. We all know budget bloating was a major problem with the jump to HD...
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 30, 2016, 03:20:31 AM
Yeah and despite what some people on Neogaf say the mainstream is used to this model already.

As long as it's not yearly then I think no one will make a big deal out of it.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 30, 2016, 04:10:03 PM
haha one of my mates is so pissed about this
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Brehvolution on March 30, 2016, 04:14:45 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1202462

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For the PS4K

Deep Down

 :gladbron
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Yulwei on March 30, 2016, 06:52:02 PM
What is the point of this bullshit if OG ps4 games will see no benefits unless the devs individually patch their games?
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Vertigo on March 30, 2016, 07:52:54 PM
What is the point of this bullshit if OG ps4 games will see no benefits unless the devs individually patch their games?

Probably better VR performance. And Sony getting their base used to the idea of upgrading consoles in shorter time frames.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: benjipwns on March 30, 2016, 08:09:39 PM
The good news is this allows MS to jam more secret sauce into their upgrade. They should even use it instead of thermal paste. As long as it means more Digital Foundry wins.

The bad news is that this allows Nintendo to get another leg up on the tech front with the NX.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: benjipwns on March 30, 2016, 08:10:44 PM
The bad news is that this allows Nintendo to get another leg up on the tech front with the NX.
:dead
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Trent Dole on March 30, 2016, 08:19:15 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1202462

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For the PS4K

Deep Down

 :gladbron
BUILD. A. P.C.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: fizzel on March 30, 2016, 08:49:25 PM
Even sony knows the ps4 is a shit console.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 31, 2016, 12:24:56 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1202462

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For the PS4K

Deep Down

 :gladbron
BUILD. A. P.C.

meh playing online games against people with kb/m sucks, using a kb/m on the couch sucks
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Brehvolution on March 31, 2016, 11:09:13 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1202462

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For the PS4K

Deep Down

 :gladbron
BUILD. A. P.C.

I have a PC. It was meant as a joke since a lot of people thought it was vaporware.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
And it still could be.
[close]
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: brob on March 31, 2016, 11:33:50 AM
didn't everyone stop hyping deep down when it was revealed to be a free2play w/ IAP cacpcom mess of a game?

or am i thinking of another title?
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: archie4208 on March 31, 2016, 12:08:43 PM
didn't everyone stop hyping deep down when it was revealed to be a free2play w/ IAP cacpcom mess of a game?

or am i thinking of another title?

That's the one.  But the power of the PS4K will make it good.  :doge
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: naff on March 31, 2016, 06:06:04 PM
lmao if true, even the best GPUs have problems outputting 4k with decent image quality. Sony fad tech :piss2

edit: seems fair to want to sell more hardware through incremental upgrades. Also seems like this sort of thing just gives more credence to buying a PC. No way any console game will take advantage of 4k, come get your poor framerate, jaggie, low detail environments in higher definition!

If it's a hardware update to support amazon, netflix, other apps etc in 4k as G says that's even funnier.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Positive Touch on March 31, 2016, 06:29:48 PM
either deep down came out a long time ago in Japan, or Capcom has a different online dragons dogma game bc i saw plenty of people stemming it awhile ago. looked like a good ass game from what i saw
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: tiesto on March 31, 2016, 10:09:06 PM
either deep down came out a long time ago in Japan, or Capcom has a different online dragons dogma game bc i saw plenty of people stemming it awhile ago. looked like a good ass game from what i saw

Dragon's Dogma Online is something different than what Deep Down was supposed to be, iirc.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: thisismyusername on March 31, 2016, 10:27:51 PM
didn't everyone stop hyping deep down when it was revealed to be a free2play w/ IAP cacpcom mess of a game?

or am i thinking of another title?

No, you're correct.

And at this point they better be releasing it on PC a la SF5 if they hope to make money back. Their "next-gen engine" totally flopped on them.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Take My Breh Away on April 10, 2016, 09:17:47 AM
We're probably going to have this every weekend till E3 for filler editorials and because there's smoke everywhere regarding this thing

Digital Foundry has an "In Theory" video and doubles down on "It's real"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls2HO9eNzRA

Kyle Bosman of Easy Allies said he's already been told it's real and why people have to cope with it (Watch the bonus ending after the Patreon ad if you still don't get it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_qNqBloKU4
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: The Legend of Sunblade on April 18, 2016, 09:24:44 PM
http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/sources-the-upgraded-playstation-4-is-codenamed-ne/1100-5437/

sounds alright to me. ill keep using my vanilla ps4 until the day it breaks, then get a new one
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: benjipwns on April 19, 2016, 12:05:03 AM
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Throughout the documents, Sony repeatedly reminds developers that the frame rate of games in NEO Mode must meet or exceed the frame rate of the game on the original PS4 system.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 19, 2016, 01:50:52 AM
damn I'm not sure I can wait till October (?)
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 19, 2016, 11:07:41 AM
dunno why neogaf is so salty that ps4 will get an update after 3/4 years

who wants another 6/7 year gen?
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 19, 2016, 11:15:21 AM
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I predicted myself to be at 2 if this ever happened. And now that it is essentially confirmed I am at two and will definitely stay at two. PS4 will be my last console. (unless the NX really blows my mind, which I strongly doubt)

Bookmark this post and quote me whenever, I will be out for life.

 :lol
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 19, 2016, 12:12:12 PM
It still has the same netbook cpu™ but OC'd.

:mjlol
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: bork on April 19, 2016, 12:42:04 PM
dunno why neogaf is so salty that ps4 will get an update after 3/4 years

who wants another 6/7 year gen?

:cmonson
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 19, 2016, 01:31:48 PM
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So...With this Sony is accepting that they sold us an pretty underpowered system, that in the end "wasn´t really next gen". Pretty fucked up, ¿huh?

Other thing would be that this model would ends up being an slim model VR-4K ready...i mean..they already lie with the ultra HD thing for multimediahttp://http://www.techradar.com/news...-games-1132919, but being honest i don´t give a fuck about 4k and VR yet...

For me the FAIREST SCENARIO would be this NEO model shipping in q4 2017, and at the same time they release some sort of upgrade kit for OG PS4, without force us to sell our existing PS4 to enjoy NEO..that would be fairer, because they do it 4 years later the original lauch..THAT will make sense...all of this without leaving OG PS4 support at all and releasing all the library for both systems...because you will have the chance to upgrade your system for 2018-2019 without feeling massively CHEATED...

If a miracle occurs and this NEO thing happen in the way that i´m dreaming...fuck it...i´d say i´m on it!....But SONY can go to hell if they are announcing and releasing this shit this year, plus the 400 $ for the VR....with just The Order, Driveclub and Uncharted 4 as the few games that can really technically speaking be named as next gen titles, and a catalogue plagued with upgraded PS360 ports and remasters...

With all the respect for the people here, but i really cannot understand how can you be ok with this....So the 400 that you pay for your current PS4 haven´t been justified...but you´re agree for paying more for a brand new system that will include ALL THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED ON the so called Next gen system that you already bought!!!

Companies check these forums, check social media to see the reactions of the rumors...and for every person saying "day one", they feel confident to release this kind of fucked up things ...This, until the day that they force us to buy new hardware every year, or to pay susbscription every monht of our life to play in the cloud....Then...you don´t ask why the industry suck that much nowadys! It´s thanks to you "MR DAY 1"!! May be the ones OK with this live in a country where the money is raised on the trees, and don´t have to work hard for it!

 :delicious
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Positive Touch on April 19, 2016, 03:21:37 PM
people that whine "it's not fair!!!" when they don't have the latest tech anymore are just...
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 19, 2016, 04:37:16 PM
people that whine "it's not fair!!!" when they don't have the latest tech anymore are just...

They'd never survive as Apple fans, that's for sure.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Trent Dole on April 19, 2016, 09:36:32 PM
people that whine "it's not fair!!!" when they don't have the latest tech anymore are just...
If they bought a PS4 then they never did. :teehee
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Brehvolution on April 20, 2016, 09:47:57 AM
people that whine "it's not fair!!!" when they don't have the latest tech anymore are just...

These are the kids or poors who will have a hard time convincing their parents to buy them the newer ps4 for xmas when they just got a ps4 2 years ago.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 20, 2016, 09:52:28 AM
Well I understand that some people don't have 400 bucks lying around and that's fair, not everybody has that amount of disposable income.

Then again that investment is still the same and there will be games for at least 5 years so that doesn't change.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Sugar Pie Honey Bunch on April 20, 2016, 08:44:33 PM
you broke your ps4 on purpose because of this shit, didn't you
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: D3RANG3D on April 20, 2016, 08:56:39 PM
 :dead
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 21, 2016, 01:24:53 AM
Funny how my Xperia broke too when I wanted to go back to iOS

 :ohhh

Btw this whole PS4K thing really cementifies for me how far on the autistic spectrum many gamers are
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: benjipwns on April 22, 2016, 12:18:08 AM
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and at the same time they release some sort of upgrade kit for OG PS4
Just stick those extra CU's on a USB dongle with the unlock code to raise all the chip clocks jeez.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: benjipwns on April 22, 2016, 12:20:17 AM
I wonder how much they minimized the amount of extra heat the PS4 can generate considering they put the power supply inside it. Clocking up from 1.6Ghz to 2.1Ghz should cause no issues at all in launch models.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Take My Breh Away on May 25, 2016, 04:47:07 PM
Who wants more "upgraded console" fuckery?

Next Xbox codenamed: "Scorpio" is 45% stronger than PS4 Neo. Releasing in 2017 (http://www.polygon.com/2016/5/25/11774294/xbox-one-slim-one-two-scorpio)
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: D3RANG3D on May 25, 2016, 04:48:15 PM
 :woody
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 26, 2016, 01:11:19 AM
Wow Id want that, but waiting till 2017 hmmm
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Trent Dole on May 26, 2016, 01:38:21 AM
Could always buy a slim and then flip it before the One Two ( :teehee ) releases.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: VomKriege on May 26, 2016, 04:11:31 AM
Wow Id want that, but waiting till 2017 hmmm

I dunno, the original PS4/Bone cycle (even if it's not one like we had before) will have been pretty short as it is even by 2017. I may only represent myself here but I am still on PS3 and on the fence on whatever hardware I could buy (tho it's probably be PC if I can afford it, money reasons and professional needs to take into account).
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: archnemesis on May 26, 2016, 04:20:50 AM
The main issue with short cycles is that the quality of the games and OS is usually not that great in the beginning. Of course, if they keep the same hardware architecture and OS then that would remove the transition period.
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: archie4208 on May 26, 2016, 04:51:02 AM
Who wants more "upgraded console" fuckery?

Next Xbox codenamed: "Scorpio" is 45% stronger than PS4 Neo. Releasing in 2017 (http://www.polygon.com/2016/5/25/11774294/xbox-one-slim-one-two-scorpio)

(http://i.imgur.com/PpYFwfp.gif)
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on May 26, 2016, 02:56:28 PM
Wow Id want that, but waiting till 2017 hmmm

I dunno, the original PS4/Bone cycle (even if it's not one like we had before) will have been pretty short as it is even by 2017. I may only represent myself here but I am still on PS3 and on the fence on whatever hardware I could buy (tho it's probably be PC if I can afford it, money reasons and professional needs to take into account).

I'm totally assuming that we will have a iphone model now, but every 3/4 years

I think Im ok with that

Not sure if waiting till 2017 is smart from MS if Sony has something now, but for a 50% increase in power it might be worth it

Im still on the fence how to replace my PS4 now and
Title: Re: PS4.5 thread of hearsay and conjecture
Post by: benjipwns on May 26, 2016, 09:51:54 PM
Who wants more "upgraded console" fuckery?

Next Xbox codenamed: "Scorpio" is 45% stronger than PS4 Neo. Releasing in 2017 (http://www.polygon.com/2016/5/25/11774294/xbox-one-slim-one-two-scorpio)
The name doesn't emphasize that you can also play most of the 360 library on the consoles.

I suggest Xbox One-Two-360-S Edition.