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Title: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Vizzys on June 06, 2016, 07:08:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2-bWotLKqo

remaster for ps4

spoiler (click to show/hide)
ff12 was garbage
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Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 06, 2016, 07:09:24 AM
FFXII was pretty cool mayne

Gave up when that wall in the dungeon kept advancing on me (well technically my BC PS3 broke)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age
Post by: Positive Touch on June 06, 2016, 07:14:05 AM
this game ruled god dammit viz. fucking glad they FINALLY announced it even if a 2017 release date sucks.

Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age
Post by: Dennis on June 06, 2016, 07:28:36 AM
I hope they do a PC version (2018?)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age
Post by: thisismyusername on June 06, 2016, 07:49:09 AM
I hope they do a PC version (2018?)

It's gotta happen eventually. FFX made it over. It's leaving money on the table given how no matter how bad the port, they still make money.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age
Post by: demi on June 06, 2016, 08:17:00 AM
Meh, I'll be dead by then I'm sure
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age
Post by: demi on June 06, 2016, 09:56:21 AM
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/06/06/final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age-launches-on-ps4-in-2017/
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 06, 2016, 10:08:08 AM
No Vita version?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Kara on June 06, 2016, 10:29:05 AM
:bow the return of the king :bow2

deliver us from evil (bad games) Kawazu-sama
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: demi on June 06, 2016, 10:34:23 AM
I'm pretty sure this isn't considered a Kawazu game...

You want this instead -> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/romancing-saga-2/id1083835330?mt=8
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 06, 2016, 10:57:25 AM
what does kawazu have to do with ff12

like the game had three different directors and he definitely was not one of them
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Kara on June 06, 2016, 11:04:32 AM
what does kawazu have to do with ff12

like the game had three different directors and he definitely was not one of them

his name is on the tin, i'm not listening to your factual analysis  :ohyou
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: thisismyusername on June 06, 2016, 11:40:59 AM
No Vita version?

Vita means death.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on June 06, 2016, 03:40:00 PM
The PS2 version still looks great, but I'm very happy this is finally happening. FFXII is a fantastic JRPG with some really great artwork. It's going to be nice to see it in HD or just cleaned up in general. As much as I like FFX, it's animation and presentation don't even come close to XII. XII will really benefit from a HD port.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Tasty on June 06, 2016, 04:15:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/N9X1573.png)

Spray-on abs so bad dude looks like a Titan
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: toku on June 06, 2016, 04:19:41 PM
its still fuck vaan team basche and balthier all day
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: thisismyusername on June 06, 2016, 05:00:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/N9X1573.png)

Spray-on abs so bad dude looks like a Titan

(http://i.imgur.com/nUBrSan.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FbTAya9.jpg)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 06, 2016, 05:42:24 PM
excited for this
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 06, 2016, 05:52:23 PM
its still fuck vaan team basche and balthier all day

The only truly bad thing about FFXII is Vaan being such a dweeb.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 06, 2016, 05:55:33 PM
Fran!

:uguu
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on June 06, 2016, 08:31:07 PM
Basch was supposed to be the main character til square management intervened :(
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 07, 2016, 12:40:08 AM
Fran!

:uguu

bunny girls :lawd
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: bluemax on June 07, 2016, 12:54:18 AM
I was playing this super uprezzed on emulator a few months ago. I guess I'll stop doing that or I won't want to play this when it comes out.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: demi on January 31, 2017, 08:17:18 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3fURekWcAA4RRh.jpg)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 31, 2017, 10:04:01 AM
hawt
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: demi on January 31, 2017, 10:15:10 AM
Pre-Ordered just now on Amazon -> http://amzn.to/2kmTghS
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: El Babua on January 31, 2017, 04:05:26 PM
Perfect game for summer :rejoice
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on January 31, 2017, 06:22:14 PM
god dammit i want it now
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 31, 2017, 06:27:58 PM
Weird, looks like they ran all the textures through CrazyBump on its default setting
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: bluemax on February 01, 2017, 12:56:54 AM
Perfect game for summer :rejoice

Yup great release timing.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on February 01, 2017, 02:57:37 AM
Basch was supposed to be the main character til square management intervened :(

I heard this too. What a waste.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Let's Cyber on February 01, 2017, 04:07:45 AM
Never played this on PS2.  Excited to finally try it out.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: demi on March 10, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
Limited Edition Steelbook

http://amzn.to/2nnw1Ck

(https://ips.pepitastore.com/storefront/img/resized/squareenix-store/YVNkjTQUFFXII_ZA_LE_Bty_795_780_KR.jpg)

Fancy Edition

https://store.na.square-enix.com/product/440364/final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age-collector-s-edition-ps4

(https://ips.pepitastore.com/storefront/img/resized/squareenix-store/Mpd2SMntFFXII_ZA_CE_Bty_795_780_KR.jpg)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: El Babua on March 10, 2017, 02:47:13 PM
Played the demo at breast buy. They fixed the inverted camera!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on March 10, 2017, 03:09:26 PM
One of my least favorite FFs, but I'll still probably pick this up.

But the "background music DLC"?
 :donot
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: bluemax on July 12, 2017, 02:18:56 AM
Picked it up today, anyone else?

I got the Steelbook because it was the same price from BB with GCU. Haven't downloaded the old music, but it lets you pick which music you want when starting a new game. Didn't try selecting the old music though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 12, 2017, 03:24:52 AM
I got my copy today.

First time playing XII in any form.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 12, 2017, 08:22:20 AM
Hollar if you got any questions while you play, I know my way around the game all right.
Noticed a few new things, haven't found out how to get the 2nd job for characters unlocked yet.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: demi on July 12, 2017, 08:51:47 AM
The 2nd job unlocks after Tomb of Raithwall I think?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: a slime appears on July 12, 2017, 09:22:01 AM
Got my copy! :hyper
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 12, 2017, 09:40:51 AM
stupid post office delayed my shipment by a day :maf
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 12, 2017, 12:13:03 PM
Probably gonna pick this up in a week – would love people's advice on how to play.  Every time I attempt to play through it, I get disenchanted around The Tomb of Raithwall
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 12, 2017, 01:15:30 PM
-do hunts
-fuck everything else
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 12, 2017, 01:34:13 PM
Probably gonna pick this up in a week – would love people's advice on how to play.  Every time I attempt to play through it, I get disenchanted around The Tomb of Raithwall


hunts and adventure
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: TVC15 on July 12, 2017, 09:38:55 PM
Did PSN get a DL speed boost? It took me about an hour to DL this. It used to be an overnighter to DL 40 gigs for me.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 12, 2017, 11:28:54 PM
I can confirm the 2nd job board unlocks
spoiler (click to show/hide)
when you get the first summon.
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Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Let's Cyber on July 12, 2017, 11:33:10 PM
Did PSN get a DL speed boost? It took me about an hour to DL this. It used to be an overnighter to DL 40 gigs for me.
Maybe with the latest update? It did seem faster this week.

I've always put my console into rest mode and my downloads go much faster for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 13, 2017, 12:09:33 AM
why does this game still have so much motion blur? it makes my head hurt
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 13, 2017, 03:19:59 AM
Don't know if my luck is just bad, but some of these steals and drops feel like they are taking much longer to get than in the PS2 version. I did get lucky on a Salamand Halcyon though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: a slime appears on July 13, 2017, 09:02:55 AM
Cool to see Yebis being used on another Square Enix game.

My boys at Silicon Studio slowly moving up the food chain.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 13, 2017, 08:50:29 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: thisismyusername on July 13, 2017, 10:22:11 PM
Probably gonna pick this up in a week – would love people's advice on how to play.  Every time I attempt to play through it, I get disenchanted around The Tomb of Raithwall


hunts and adventure

This. Hunts is basically the star of the game. International introduced trials that are basically compressed Hunts.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 13, 2017, 10:42:50 PM
are those the trials from the main menu or something different
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: bluemax on July 13, 2017, 10:58:32 PM
are those the trials from the main menu or something different

Yes
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 14, 2017, 12:28:58 AM
ok got it
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: G The Resurrected on July 14, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
Damn FFXV is a lazy ass game in comparison to this game. It's almost a fucking joke.

My bad autotype on this shit is bad.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 14, 2017, 02:47:40 PM
do you want to fight me?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: G The Resurrected on July 14, 2017, 04:13:59 PM
I fixed my mistake there sorry
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2017, 02:06:46 PM
So uhhhh...I was noticing how much easier this is?

I fought the walking Bird enemies at Giza at like level 1 and stomped them and was confused.

I read this just now:

Quote
The original FF XII was known for being a big departure from the elements previous games in the franchise featured. The battle system still included elements from the Active Time Battle (ATB) system and evolved it into the Active Dimension Battle (ADB). The Gambit system and major changes to exploration definitely made this entry a lot tougher than previous iterations. Polygon interviewed the HD remaster’s producer Hiroaki Kato, who made it clear that this re-release will be a lot more approachable:

"One of the biggest challenges we faced in Final Fantasy 12 was to ditch the classic random encounter system that we had. In other games, you would go into battle suddenly, whereas in Final Fantasy 12 you saw enemies as you moved through the field. It’s a real-time battle system. It was a big departure from the classic system. We actually got help from Hiroyuki Ito, who worked on the game design for previous Final Fantasy titles. We overhauled the game balance so that it would be easier for players — closer to the feel of a classic Final Fantasy title.

Um. Fuck you?

I did the entire sunstone thing like it was complete cake. I'm not sure what happened. I've played FFXII like four times now and I never remember going through it that fast. It was really disorienting.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 16, 2017, 05:38:58 PM
Fight the Werewolves or Wild Saurian if you need to. Barheim Passage is still hard if you go there right away.  At Ginza, the walking bird guys are easy at lv1. You may be thinking of them at the Westersand, where they are about 5x stronger than the Ginza Plains versions.  I was worried about what they said too, but I haven't really felt any difficulty lowering yet (at Henne Mines in the storyline).

And to answer your question on steam, you can open whatever pots you want. The Zodiac Spear is just a regular item in a pot now. There are better weapons, and the Uhlan job isn't that great, either.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2017, 06:35:35 PM
Thanks Scar. It just feels different. Maybe it's the speed up messing me up.

At Garsmythe Waterways and just unlocked gambits. Finally, the game proper may begin!

Thoughts on my job choices?

Vaan - shikari/time battle mage
Penelo - white mage/monk
Balthier - knight/red battle mage
Fran - archer/black mage
Ashe - black mage/bushi
Basch - knight/foebreaker
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 16, 2017, 08:03:49 PM
You shouldn't need 2 Black Mages. 1 may be too many (I went with 1 of each class). Red Mages are imo the best Black and White mages. If you want to use the Zodiac Spear, you need an Uhlan. I would highly suggest having someone as a Machinist, as they are the main class that uses guns (Shikari can but not until near the end of the game).

White Mage + Monk is a pretty good duo, since Monk can learn lots of White Magic spells but needs summons to do so, and having a WM will bypass that. I would swap one of the knights or black mages with a Machinist, but that's me.  My usual setup with one job per character was Shikari/Knight/Red Mage/Machinist/White or Time Mage/Samurai (Bushi thing) or (Foe)Breaker.

Shikari is the single best class in the game imo, Red Mage is ace, Knight is good for the Blood Sword A (forget what its called now) and Excalibur late-game. Samurai can equip the Blood Sword A too but with a summon bridge.  Foebreaker will make stuff like Yiazmat and Omega easier, but isn't required to win.

And once you get to Rabanastre with Basch in the party, all gambits become buyable in gambit shops.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 16, 2017, 08:14:03 PM
I actually put balthier as machinist but upon research I just wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 16, 2017, 09:02:43 PM
And once you get to Rabanastre with Basch in the party, all gambits become buyable in gambit shops.

yessssssssss

having gambits slowly doled out was the most annoying thing about the original
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 16, 2017, 10:24:12 PM
I actually put balthier as machinist but upon research I just wasn't sure.

Not that it really matters, but people complain about making Balthier a Machinist and Fran an Archer because their animations for those weapons are actually slower than anyone else. But it really shouldn't matter, same with who you make what class in a level 1/2/2/3/3/3 game. It's completely negligible.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 16, 2017, 11:29:13 PM
I need to play this
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 12:07:30 AM
Really liking the remastered OST differences. Would love to own it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 17, 2017, 12:42:07 AM
I thought my game was messed up when I switched to the original bc the transition is so smooth. could only tell after I realized the instruments all sounded flat and cheap lol. it sounds so much better with a real orchestra tho; really helps the melodies stand out more.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 17, 2017, 12:49:24 AM
Kinda dumb how it's an option that does nothing if you don't have a code for the original soundtrack.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 17, 2017, 01:08:15 AM
nah it'll still switch between them. the dlc adds a third option that plays the cd version of the original soundtrack, which apparently sounds clearer and has a few adjustments. i dunno, i couldn't tell the difference between the original and the dlc.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 17, 2017, 01:10:51 AM
It doesn't change anything for me, maybe I have to check updates on the game. Not that I'd use the original since I can just play the PS2 version if I want that.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 01:36:54 AM
I thought my game was messed up when I switched to the original bc the transition is so smooth. could only tell after I realized the instruments all sounded flat and cheap lol. it sounds so much better with a real orchestra tho; really helps the melodies stand out more.

Huh?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 17, 2017, 01:54:26 AM
I didn't like the CD versions of the songs.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 04:12:40 AM
FFXII Int. Job guide.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pRNoNgG65Pk7sGQFlM3-g591q57Qvu46BU2oaV8p7qY/edit
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 17, 2017, 04:37:25 AM
Yep, just go with whatever job for whichever character.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 17, 2017, 09:50:06 AM
I thought my game was messed up when I switched to the original bc the transition is so smooth. could only tell after I realized the instruments all sounded flat and cheap lol. it sounds so much better with a real orchestra tho; really helps the melodies stand out more.

Huh?

go into the options and try switching between the soundtracks
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 02:32:37 PM
Bully I've got an extra dlc code.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 03:41:13 PM
Forgot how cute FF12 moogles are!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 17, 2017, 04:11:50 PM
:( they're the worst ones! crystal chronicles had the best:

(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy-crystalchronicles/images/0/0c/Ffcc_moogle.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150708170645)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 04:27:12 PM
No ff12 moogles are adorable! 14 has the worst moogles. Worst moogle design of all time is mog in 13-2 tho

CC moogles are pretty bad.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 17, 2017, 05:31:08 PM
CC's fat moogles are by far the best
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 17, 2017, 06:04:07 PM
No ff12 moogles are adorable! 14 has the worst moogles. Worst moogle design of all time is mog in 13-2 tho

CC moogles are pretty bad.

youre pretty bad what the hell
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 07:36:54 PM
Being surrounded by people with no taste

(https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/8/8c/Gurdy1.png)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0f/19/96/0f19969d0b21117855719b4e17d1c306--final-fantasy-xii-fantasy-series.jpg)

Kawaii~

Those little wittle shorts! :heartbeat
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 08:06:52 PM
Seriously though, the speed up feature is AMAZING for a working adult. Holy God of mercy. I went through Barheim like *that* and it fucking rocked. Still feels too easy to me though. Can't put my finger on it but Barheim was usually harder than that. It's been years tho so maybe it's all in my head. Fuck, I love that dungeon so much.

Also all gambits at the store. :lawd

I'm really gonna experiment with gambits this time. I never really did in the past and kept it limited. This time I'm loving the micromanagement feel.

I love this game so much. Can't wait to explore Rabanestre after buying my stuff and checking in on my fave npcs. FFXII has the best npcs in the series. It even somehow topped FFVIII in that regard. Well, almost.

Can't believe how much the job system adds to this game. I used to give my chars roles and it's amazing not having to skip around the board to do that anymore. :lawd Can't wait to get my girl Ashe, my fave. :lawd

Westersand theme

https://youtu.be/hHnTnE8FZ-Y

:hyper

I could chain monsters forever. Hnnnnng.

This games gameplay is like wine. The GOAT FF returneth. Can't wait for weak mode! :hyper
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 17, 2017, 08:20:15 PM
five hours in and i just unlocked gambits. theres too many npcs lol
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 17, 2017, 09:59:18 PM
I've been saying this version was better for almost 10 years, Himu. Way to not believe me in anything.  :goty2
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 10:15:13 PM
I believed you. But I couldn't play it because my computer was never good enough to emulate, I didn't know Japanese at the time, or didn't have the ability to play it on my ps2. I kept waiting and waiting for this in HD. It got to a point where I was just going to get a swap magic and import the jp version and play that since I could play it in Japanese but by that point FFX HD was already out and I didn't want to pop my cherry when I could just wait for the HD version. Worth it in the end. Blame SE.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: bluemax on July 17, 2017, 10:56:06 PM
Speed up feature is pretty ace, but even it can't make grinding chest spawns fun.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 17, 2017, 10:59:39 PM
Speaking of which, can I still get fomahaults at raithwall? Hmm. It won't matter because I don't have a machinist..and I'm not sure if shikari has it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: thisismyusername on July 18, 2017, 12:15:15 AM
I've been saying this version was better for almost 10 years, Himu. Way to not believe me in anything.  :goty2

I've been holding out for the PC version, but yeah. All the stuff they added is pretty solid. The frame-skipping/fast-forward feature is the only thing I'm leery about.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 18, 2017, 12:28:56 AM


The frame-skipping/fast-forward feature is the only thing I'm leery about.

.............
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 18, 2017, 06:07:02 AM
I thought my game was messed up when I switched to the original bc the transition is so smooth. could only tell after I realized the instruments all sounded flat and cheap lol. it sounds so much better with a real orchestra tho; really helps the melodies stand out more.

it isn't a real orchestra though, it's mostly sample libraries mixed with live recordings of some key instrumental parts
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 18, 2017, 07:18:03 AM
o

well it sounds good still
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 18, 2017, 02:11:19 PM
I thought my game was messed up when I switched to the original bc the transition is so smooth. could only tell after I realized the instruments all sounded flat and cheap lol. it sounds so much better with a real orchestra tho; really helps the melodies stand out more.

it isn't a real orchestra though, it's mostly sample libraries mixed with live recordings of some key instrumental parts

Oh, and I suppose Hatsune Miku isn't a real singer either, you luddite swine.
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Post by: bluemax on July 18, 2017, 07:48:36 PM
Got the second jobs, my Gambit setup went from minimal to a lot more fleshed out. As a programmer I  understand why the system is limited, but I wish it provided more ability to combine things.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 18, 2017, 10:49:09 PM
lmaooo its prolly still downloading. if not then just restart your ps4
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2017, 11:07:26 PM
Is it just me or is the sound really low in this game?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: thisismyusername on July 18, 2017, 11:19:48 PM


The frame-skipping/fast-forward feature is the only thing I'm leery about.

.............

I don't mind running around in the game. :trumps I never had issues with the travel times and going between places.
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Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 19, 2017, 05:29:57 AM
Speaking of which, can I still get fomahaults at raithwall? Hmm. It won't matter because I don't have a machinist..and I'm not sure if shikari has it.

You could get the Demonsbane sword at Raithwall, not Fomalhauts. You could get them at the Lhusu Mine in the Antlion's room. But not anymore. The first Fomalhaut appears at the Cerobi Steppe.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2017, 07:36:34 AM


The frame-skipping/fast-forward feature is the only thing I'm leery about.

.............

I don't mind running around in the game. :trumps I never had issues with the travel times and going between places.

Try it. I was skeptical too and have it on 2x speed most of the time. It brings lots of convenience.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2017, 02:09:01 PM
You guys don't play FF games on fast battle speed? First thing I do almost every FF is immediately put it on active, fastest speed setting.
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Post by: demi on July 19, 2017, 02:30:34 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 20, 2017, 12:08:02 AM
Who should get what classes himu
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 20, 2017, 12:15:58 AM
Check the guide I posted last page
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Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 20, 2017, 01:25:29 AM
Or just go with whatever. The stat differences won't matter. Take it from someone that's gone through weak mode a number of times.

Also, only the animation gameplay is faster, the timer stays normal, music and sound effects don't speed up. It's not like frameskip in emulators where everything gets sped up and unplayable.
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Post by: thisismyusername on July 20, 2017, 08:02:46 PM
Who should get what classes himu

Doesn't really matter, IIRC. They're all viable, just animation speeds on different characters make them faster/slower.

You guys don't play FF games on fast battle speed? First thing I do almost every FF is immediately put it on active, fastest speed setting.

Outside of FF9 (which I still have yet to finish despite starting it like 4-6 times) I've never had a problem with ATB speed in any of the Final Fantasies.
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 22, 2017, 05:02:01 PM
just finished that looong linear section at the start so now the game can finally begin! i stocked up on gambits already woooo. although is it just me or is there like no ability spaces anymore? i'm looking around everyone's boards and there's only a handful on each. now, i haven't started any mages yet so maybe that's the issue but i swear there was a fuckload of things to do beyond "attack" in the original.

also, i just found out the sky pirates's den is gone for good and wtffff i loved that thing! r.i.p. my little trophy room.
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Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 22, 2017, 06:42:05 PM
The abilities/techs are split up between jobs. Archer gets them all pretty much, otherwise it's only certain jobs get certain techs. Some via mist/summon bridges to those 'islands' on the boards.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 22, 2017, 07:24:04 PM
just feels like it'll be a long time before i start getting real abilities :(
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: bluemax on July 23, 2017, 02:33:10 AM
just feels like it'll be a long time before i start getting real abilities :(

Yeah for non mage classes there's not a lot of interesting stuff for awhile.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 23, 2017, 11:49:16 PM
-up to the westersands, the worst part of the game hands down. might just use fast-forward to blow through some of the shittier maps.
-this game is hell for those of us that must talk to every townsperson after every event lol
-this game has a lot more story than i remembered. i thought of it as being extremely light, kind of like how 15 is, but nope theres story all over the place. maybe it was just the second half that had less cutscenes or something? i dunno
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2017, 12:42:33 AM
It's the middle and second half. There's a period where you go from the snow place to the empire and there's like two cutscenes total.

What npcs do you talk to?
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Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 24, 2017, 01:16:31 AM
They changed it so you only need 3 of those chop things at Archades instead of 9. Less annoyance.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 24, 2017, 01:16:40 AM
ALL OF THEM. never know who's gonna have updated dialog.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2017, 01:17:34 AM
Always been big on a few specific npcs. Notably the viera in rabanastre who just left the wood as well as the kids in low town.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 24, 2017, 01:17:46 AM
I'm so used to mashing O to get through talking stuff in this game I forget half the time I don't know what almost any of them have ever said. Too habitual.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 24, 2017, 01:20:08 AM
:( but what if you miss lore or minor character building
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 24, 2017, 01:24:26 AM
I did read all those chop story things. But I more often than not mash through conversations in it. Some sidequests I've never done because of that.

I am trying to decide if I want to go for that Order of Ambrosia thing to just buy Reverse Motes, or farm them at the exact point in the game I am in with the best pot to farm then in the game. I've never done the hunt troop thing because the rewards are crap, but maybe I can get that trophy thing for completing the bestiary.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2017, 04:27:16 PM
:bow ASHE :bow2
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 24, 2017, 08:18:55 PM
Penelo is main character.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: bluemax on July 24, 2017, 10:59:19 PM
The Leading Man disagrees.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: thisismyusername on July 24, 2017, 11:14:39 PM
Party should basically be:

Balither, Basch, Ashe. Fran now and then but she's so minor to the story she probably could be axed.

That's it. The three that matter.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 24, 2017, 11:16:05 PM
Vaan has the highest strength in the game. Team is Vaan, Balthier, and QUEEN ASHE
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 24, 2017, 11:28:43 PM
team is all six of them so you can tag people in when you're underpowered party can't finish off the mark
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2017, 12:08:21 AM
The job system will finally make all characters useful!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2017, 12:28:41 AM
Game came out 11 years ago who cares about Vaan and penelo at this point
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2017, 01:01:43 AM
TBH let's be real. The entire story is wasted potential.

I love, love, love the intro. The introduction of the royal family, Reks and the introduction to Basch, Vaan and Penelo. What we have here is the story of a people who have been stepped on and treated like dirt. The pathos the game builds for Vaan and Penelo is very, very good. stepping on the flowers, huddled into low town, penelo as a mother figure to the kids, all of the orphans. The game sets this all up so that by the time it's time to crash the fete, you're all in. Fuck the Empire. It takes Vaan as a central character who has lost EVERYTHING and then does nothing with it. There's potential for a class based story here. A struggle between Vaan and Ashe looking for revenge and how Ashe potentially cares more about revenge than her people. Matsuno traditionally does very well with class based stories, as seen in FFT and TO. Orphans are a big part of his storytelling and while FFT merely flirts with class it kind of pushes it to the side after chapter 1. We could have had a more dramatic story, pushing for more tension between Vaan and Basch Suikoden III Hugo vs Chris style. But nope. Vaan forgives and believes Basch far too quickly for it to be believable. That's left alone. There's a lot of potential that the game starts with that is completely left on the table. The world building and story telling in the beginning, all the way up to the prison escape when Basch joins as a guest is perfection. The story falls off the rails from there.

You could say that Basch could be the main character but even Basch kind of sucks and isn't that interesting. What makes Basch interesting is Gabranth. Anything Basch does of note is almost all related to Gabranth or Ashe. Because Basch doesn't subsist on his own as a character. Even his potential is stifled.

The only original plot line that has actual merit for the main cast is that of Ashe and her struggle for revenge. That is the main story of note in the game for our cast and it never reaches its full potential.

There could have been a case for it to be an FFVI styled game where there is no main character and they all have legitimate stakes in the pot. But even that fails.

Basically, everything in the game related to the story that are not the villains or the world building itself sucks. Ashe and Balther are the only main characters to make a big splash or do anything noteworthy. Fran is just there, Vaan, Basch, and Penelo are wasted. There's barely any character interaction at all. The entire scenario is wasted potential, Vaan or not.

The saddest part of FFXII's story is that the idea of Vaan isn't even bad. The intro is still fantastic to this day. The set up is perfect. But right when the game gives you a reason to care it just fucks off.

Is there any good thing to read about this game's troubled development? Like a good post-mortem or something?

I can find it if I search but basically, FFXII entered development in 2000. It took six years to develop. Jesus Christ.

The fact that FFXII was written by the same dude who wrote Tactics Ogre and that the game came out after FFX, which IMO has the best FF cast, is so, so damning.
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Post by: Himu on July 25, 2017, 01:06:49 AM
But I've made my peace with FFXII's story a long, long time ago. Who cares when it has that sweet, sweet gameplay at this point? I have no idea why this games writers bit more than they could chew. An utter what the fuck of a game that, as great as it is, started FF's downward trajectory of fucked uo development problems. I fully expect FFXVI to carry on XII-XV's legacy of having fucked up development. Jesus.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2017, 01:13:09 AM
And now we have Nomura fucking off with FFVII remake when all anyone with a hint of taste wanted was a fucking REmake style remake with pre rendered backgrounds in HD and a remix of the game and shit. Fucking Nomura should be fired. But nah. Gotta be "ambitious" for a fucking remake. For a "new generation". With real time combat. This fucking company, man.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 25, 2017, 06:21:28 AM
lol no

You shut the fuck up right now. Penelo is the main character. It says so in my walkthrough. I used only in-game facts for it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 25, 2017, 07:27:08 AM
I fully expect one new mainline FF per gen JRPG wise, with an MMO in between. Wouldn't be surprised if XVI ends up an MMO.

ain't no way they're putting out a new mmo when ffxiv is still increasing in popularity. at the same time I'd be really surprised if ff16 has entered even the planning stages, so by the time it comes out the company might be ready for a new ff mmo lol.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: thisismyusername on July 25, 2017, 10:49:26 AM
I fully expect one new mainline FF per gen JRPG wise, with an MMO in between. Wouldn't be surprised if XVI ends up an MMO.

There is no way in hell Square is gonna do another MMO. Especially not after the rework for 14. You're going to get another MMO in 2025 at the latest.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2017, 10:59:52 AM
Polygon did this.

https://www.polygon.com/features/2017/7/5/15916862/the-making-of-final-fantasy-12

Given their in-depth take on the making of FFVII and SFII (which are amazing), it's a good read and has more details than the wiki entry.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on July 25, 2017, 11:31:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ShBPsOeM8s
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2017, 02:23:23 PM
best place to grind lp in early game is the skeletons in the mines in bhujerba
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Post by: Positive Touch on July 25, 2017, 02:54:39 PM
why would you grind? you're supposed to beat every mark by the skin of your teeth
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2017, 03:10:46 PM
In FFXII levels don't mean shit. It's all about equipment.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 25, 2017, 07:54:14 PM
Levels can help, but yeah, weak mode, et al. However, levels do seem to affect the success rate of those 'stat break' abilities jobs like the Foebreaker get. I think I got it to work once on a level 3 character in weak mode, so in that, it seems like those abilities are more or less totally useless. At least in the PS2 version on weak mode.
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Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 27, 2017, 08:47:10 PM
It seemed like it wasn't going to work, but I got the Danjuro F / MINA the same way as in the international version. Apparently they changed all the FF weapons to the months in the Hindu calendar, but they all seem like similar-looking (and unpronounceable in some cases) words.  I won't remember what hardly any of them are called in this.

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Post by: Himu on July 27, 2017, 11:33:11 PM
:rejoice CHAINS :rejoice
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 29, 2017, 10:27:44 PM
Turns out FFXII HD is actually shit.

http://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-ages-remastered-look-come-1797369257

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Reviewing one of the early impressionist exhibitions in France in the spring of 1874, the art critic Jules-Antoine Castagnary described what unified the artists who participated as a “determination not to aim for perfection, but to be satisfied with a certain general aspect.”

 :snob
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 29, 2017, 10:38:05 PM
(this argument is also trash when people try to make it against the low-budget remakes of ff5 and 6)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Rufus on July 29, 2017, 11:36:04 PM
Yang's original blog post is less pretentious with much clearer examples. The touched up textures do look like a bad texture mod, yes, but I can't help but roll my eyes at Gach's write-up. "Blurry impressionism" is in the same tier of sentimental wank as "vinyl warmth." :yuck

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What it lacks in sharpness, however, it makes up for with depth. The carpets towards the back of the shop are dark and faded. Individual textures are weaved together by shared volumes—dark floors and wooden counters contrasting with the warm lights hanging from above.
Resolution an colour saturation are different, but what he describes as lacking in the remaster is all still there. Bleh.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on July 29, 2017, 11:55:12 PM
eh the original article sounds full of shit too. the directors already said years ago that the original textures were made at a higher resolution than what was used in the ps2 release, so these hd textures are either the originals or based on them. that alone destroys the guys argument, but you'd also have to out off your mind to say the ps2 release looks better than the ps4 version. i think the remaster could have done some stuff better, like maybe some more depth of field effects and less motion blur, but it clearly looks better than the low-res mess that frustratingly hid the artists details on ps2.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on July 30, 2017, 01:00:50 AM
(this argument is also trash when people try to make it against the low-budget remakes of ff5 and 6)

No they look like shit. We just have eyes.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Rufus on July 30, 2017, 10:28:50 AM
eh the original article sounds full of shit too. the directors already said years ago that the original textures were made at a higher resolution than what was used in the ps2 release, so these hd textures are either the originals or based on them. that alone destroys the guys argument,
It's likely as Yang describes: upscaled, desaturated, sharpened, etc. and it shows. It's the easiest way to add 'HD detail' to a large amount of textures without actually redrawing them, but it gives them this fuzzy, pock-marked look where minor blemishes turn into deep furrows:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nNZuUPvirdg/WXtz5KcMHpI/AAAAAAAAFtM/pTVGOI9hrNcMrtAccb7y8Lu-X8-wfm1-gCEwYBhgL/s1600/ff12_city_comparison.gif)

Simple upscale through PCSX2 (all the original detail, only more discernible)
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/ukwieorhsf6iinu457v2.png)

Remaster (all the original detail, but turned to 11)
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/bexq0wxz58uu93qmkuxz.png)

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but you'd also have to out off your mind to say the ps2 release looks better than the ps4 version.
Or just have a different perspective on it. In Yang's case, appreciation for Square's clever use of very limited technology. He's being a little dramatic about it, but I can see why the changes would draw his eye. I'd notice it too, having spent some time on Nexusmods for a variety of games.

It's an understandable choice in either case, but yeah, kinda ugly on close inspection.
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Post by: Himu on July 30, 2017, 04:31:36 PM
:yeshrug

What the fuck is he expecting?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Rufus on July 30, 2017, 05:08:59 PM
He'd prefer a straight upscale, obviously.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 30, 2017, 08:08:59 PM
I thought it looked good, except if a character is really close to the camera they get blurry, which sucks because I can't make a new Penelo steam avatar that way.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: bluemax on July 31, 2017, 11:16:25 PM
Playing through this for the first time in English has made me realize how much I rushed through it in Japanese and how much content this game has that I had no idea about. So many secret quests and dungeons that I never touched.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: bork on August 03, 2017, 09:12:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ShBPsOeM8s

So were they joking, or is Vaan shit in this game and shouldn't be in your party?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on August 03, 2017, 09:52:43 AM
They're wrong. Vaan has the highest possible damage dealing
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Positive Touch on August 03, 2017, 12:33:12 PM
i made Vaan a thief in my party and so far he's a fucking beast, better than just about everyone. keep in mind I'm under level 20 still, but damn. there are no bad characters anyway fyi.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 03, 2017, 01:52:03 PM
He's not a bad party member, he's a shit character. Let the adults eat, fam.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on August 03, 2017, 10:27:58 PM
My guide doesn't have all the sidequests and stuff. Just the important ones to actually get good things. But there's probably way better ones up there that do have all that stuff.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: bluemax on August 03, 2017, 11:39:39 PM
My guide doesn't have all the sidequests and stuff. Just the important ones to actually get good things. But there's probably way better ones up there that do have all that stuff.

Yeah your guide I don't think covers what goes into unlocking the boss in the Necrohol (although it had some steps, maybe I haven't looked in a few days) but this one FF Wiki I was looking at had all the steps.

The one thing about your guide, is that it feels almost overwhelming at time with all the info about getting the best loots and chests. But I appreciate that the information is there.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on August 04, 2017, 01:49:37 AM
It has how to get to Chaos.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on August 04, 2017, 03:47:27 AM
Here's your spear, Icy. It's not as good as other weapons anymore.

(http://i.imgur.com/9WrBSRv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tODL6Kf.jpg)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Himu on August 04, 2017, 03:48:52 AM
Miss Bunk. Let him know I said hi.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on August 04, 2017, 04:56:39 AM
Well you could come in and say hi sometime, too.

OK, the new happy song in the Subterra is boring. Anyone got an original soundtrack code still?

Nevermind, I chose it and it did go to original..I didn't need a code?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Rahxephon91 on August 04, 2017, 08:54:27 AM
Kind of dislike that this version made getting skills more tedious, but whatever I still demolished the main game.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on August 04, 2017, 07:53:01 PM
With the changes to some, that's probably why.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: bluemax on August 07, 2017, 11:45:26 PM
It has how to get to Chaos.

I stand corrected!

With the changes to some, that's probably why.

What skills are good? Or what are some good gambits for skills? I mostly only use steal and poach.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (2017, PS4 Remaster)
Post by: Bulleta©™® on August 09, 2017, 05:01:45 AM
The 'break' skills that lower enemy attack/magic/phys defense/mag defense work on everything now, so you get them very late (the attack and magic ones at least).

I don't use most skills, seems pointless.