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Title: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 19, 2016, 10:00:50 PM: I know you're an expert don't you dare lie to me

I picked up the Origin manga when I was on vacation and I almost bought my first gunpla...

Which anime should I watch? What's good, bruh?
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 19, 2016, 10:07:55 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoplnxPv-J0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_PKgztP0zw
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: helios on September 19, 2016, 10:40:44 PM: G Gundam is where it's at
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Post by: eleuin on September 19, 2016, 10:43:58 PM: grounded gunpla :lawd

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/24a6b4468d39a0c52edfd7bda9f1bc3d/tumblr_ob2wl3yczG1vbs4xgo1_500.gif)

build fighters is also solid
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Huff on September 19, 2016, 10:51:59 PM: Mr gundam :(
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: toku on September 19, 2016, 11:26:10 PM: Yeah follow blu's posts. For the most part you're gonna be sticking with UC shit since thats where all the best stuff. Origin manga is really good and I know they're doing some OVAs based off it but I havent seen them yet (there are 2 eps out now iirc).

If you *have* to watch some of the newer shit the first season of Gundam Seed is okay but it's basically a remake of OG Gundam just worse. The second season is horrible and you will want to kill yourself.

Gundam 00...I actually really liked the first season a lot but of course the second season was a garbage fire and the it's movie is even worse.

A good thing to keep in mind when you start exploring Gundam is if they push anti-war peace shit hard it's probably bad and you're gonna want to kill yourself the further you dig into that series/ova/movie.

As for gunpla, it's kinda whatever you want man. Even some of the bad series/movies etc have some dope mech designs so you can just buy whatever looks cool to you. Though I would say stick to 1/100th and bigger.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Beezy on September 20, 2016, 01:28:38 AM: Quote from: toku on September 19, 2016, 11:26:10 PM
Gundam 00...I actually really liked the first season a lot but of course the second season was a garbage fire and the it's movie is even worse.
There's a movie?
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: toku on September 20, 2016, 01:38:51 AM: Quote from: Beezy on September 20, 2016, 01:28:38 AM
Quote from: toku on September 19, 2016, 11:26:10 PM
Gundam 00...I actually really liked the first season a lot but of course the second season was a garbage fire and the it's movie is even worse.
There's a movie?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Suit_Gundam_00_the_Movie:_A_Wakening_of_the_Trailblazer
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 20, 2016, 09:54:02 AM: I downloaded a rip of 08th MS gonna watch that!
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: bork on September 20, 2016, 10:14:09 AM: Quote from: Huff on September 19, 2016, 10:51:59 PM
Mr gundam :(

He just up and disappeared. :-\
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: toku on September 20, 2016, 12:19:36 PM: Quote from: fistfulofmetal on September 20, 2016, 09:54:02 AM
I downloaded a rip of 08th MS gonna watch that!

The ending or last 2 eps or suck but it's still really good overall.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 20, 2016, 01:12:44 PM: 08th MS Team is basically Mobile Suit Gundam: Vietnam War.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 20, 2016, 04:34:22 PM: Secret best Gundam series:

spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlhtVgB7QuY

It's got a horse Gundam, a windmill Gundam, and a Gundam that wears a sombrero.
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Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: CatsCatsCats on September 20, 2016, 06:09:07 PM: Yassssss I clicked the spoiler thinking if it wasn't that, I would suggest it should be. SSJ Gundam
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: toku on September 20, 2016, 06:28:12 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwyVV5_orBo

:rejoice:
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: helios on September 20, 2016, 06:45:16 PM: Quote from: toku on September 20, 2016, 06:28:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwyVV5_orBo

:rejoice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fUJ6LehQ3I
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: CatsCatsCats on September 20, 2016, 07:08:25 PM: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yfCq1wMmn4g
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: toku on September 20, 2016, 08:07:03 PM: Quote from: helios on September 20, 2016, 06:45:16 PM
Quote from: toku on September 20, 2016, 06:28:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwyVV5_orBo

:rejoice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fUJ6LehQ3I

(http://i.imgur.com/rRw2qs2.gif)
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Yeti on September 21, 2016, 01:22:08 AM: https://youtu.be/EBqDyAvv-_M

This is the only Gundam I've ever seen, such a catchy theme song. I've tried to watch it three times, and there were some interesting plot twists, but I could never make it past ~10 or so episodes.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 21, 2016, 11:47:12 AM: Gundam Wing is the Gundam series that every person who's seen at least one Gundam series, but isn't really a Gundam fan, has seen.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: archie4208 on September 21, 2016, 11:55:00 AM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 21, 2016, 11:47:12 AM
Gundam Wing is the Gundam series that every person who's seen at least one Gundam series, but isn't really a Gundam fan, has seen.

That's me. :doge

:bow Toomani :bow2
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: helios on September 21, 2016, 01:22:21 PM: 08th MS Team has my favorite Gundam battle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Z6vcNX4_E

A true Ace.

Of the newer Gundams, I've only seen Build Fighters (S1) and Iron-Blooded Orphans and I recommend both.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 21, 2016, 09:03:47 PM: Watched the first 3 episodes of 08th MS Team

Pretty cool, I like the jungle atheistic.

Wasn't expecting the underage cartoon nudity tho.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 01, 2016, 02:15:06 PM: i made my first gundam

(http://i.imgur.com/jQgZ7YS.jpg)
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: toku on October 01, 2016, 02:49:53 PM: doki doki
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2017, 03:55:00 AM: Was thinking about making a Gundam thread, but we just had this one like 7 months ago so I'm just gonna use this.

The other day I learned about Advance of Zeta: Flag of the Titans. It's set in 0083 before Z Gundam and apparently is a photonovel which is novel with pictures I guess? idk, but the mechs in it are pretty awesome. Like look at the main mech:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8d/66/87/8d6687cd5d8a4b6a261df9f63007ad60.jpg)

This is a really fucking good design! Sure it's not all that Gundam looking, but it's super legit and could easily be the lead mech in a videogame. A lot of times the spinoffs have kinda iffy designs so was really surprised by it. Also the other mechs and the upgrades follow the Thunderbolt/0083 style of ridiculously overpowered technology that couldn't possibly exist in a time before Zeta Gundam, but fun to look at although most are WTF:

(https://ii.yuki.la/2/94/3d303d720b0a75f945c71a524dd071fab286c695ad89851ce18594c056dee942.jpg)

(http://tonpu-game.seesaa.net/image/20050728hazel005.jpg)

Would be cool if they animate this novel at some point. These mechs would be awesome with that Unicorn/Thunderbolt style of animation.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: toku on May 23, 2017, 04:09:35 PM: you get deep enough into gundam you'll discover a lot of the best designs are exclusive to illustrated novels, or one off magazine story type stuff.

this is a cool twitter to follow for mecha content and they post some of the more obscure magazine stuff from time to time:
https://twitter.com/XenosynthPlus

theres another one too but i cant remember the handle but yea, follow this person and you'll probably end up discovering 80s otaku/mecha anime twitter and a bunch of cool ppl to follow for great #content
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: chronovore on May 23, 2017, 05:37:46 PM: Quote from: toku on May 23, 2017, 04:09:35 PM
you get deep enough into gundam you'll discover a lot of the best designs are exclusive to illustrated novels, or one off magazine story type stuff.

this is a cool twitter to follow for mecha content and they post some of the more obscure magazine stuff from time to time:
https://twitter.com/XenosynthPlus

theres another one too but i cant remember the handle but yea, follow this person and you'll probably end up discovering 80s otaku/mecha anime twitter and a bunch of cool ppl to follow for great #content
Just curious if EVERYONE hates the Syd Mead Turn-A designs, or if it's just ALMOST everyone?
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: toku on May 23, 2017, 05:58:01 PM: Ppl have softened on them a lot but you're not gonna see a ton of love for them. Ppl fuck with the title model but you're not gonna see a lot of positive for stuff outside of it.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2017, 07:17:10 PM: Quote from: chronovore on May 23, 2017, 05:37:46 PM
Quote from: toku on May 23, 2017, 04:09:35 PM
you get deep enough into gundam you'll discover a lot of the best designs are exclusive to illustrated novels, or one off magazine story type stuff.

this is a cool twitter to follow for mecha content and they post some of the more obscure magazine stuff from time to time:
https://twitter.com/XenosynthPlus

theres another one too but i cant remember the handle but yea, follow this person and you'll probably end up discovering 80s otaku/mecha anime twitter and a bunch of cool ppl to follow for great #content
Just curious if EVERYONE hates the Syd Mead Turn-A designs, or if it's just ALMOST everyone?

Quote from: toku on May 23, 2017, 05:58:01 PM
Ppl have softened on them a lot but you're not gonna see a ton of love for them. Ppl fuck with the title model but you're not gonna see a lot of positive for stuff outside of it.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

I thought Turn A Gundam was universally loved? Turn A Gundam is an awesome mustachio design and Turn X is pretty legendary. The two-legged AT-ATs are cool as are the little Froggy Haro mechs. Don't forget Harry's gold Sumo which is fucking rad.

(http://mangapanda.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/e0080418_53f3572fbf21e.jpg)

(http://www.darkmirage.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/21_turn18.jpg)

(http://www.nozomientertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/turn-a-gundam-m-screenshot06.jpg)
And then the character designs, the music, the animations. :heart :heart :heart

As to the actual show itself, while I appreciate it as art, the reason I don't recommend it to people as an entry to Gundam is that the middle is goddamn boring in pacing. It's a very slow show. BUT, the final ep is incredible and one of the best episodes of anime ever. The opening 13eps or so are great and the ending 13 are great, it's just the middle is a slog imo. The Diana-swap stuff is zzzzzz.

FWIW I only have 3 actual Gundam models. A Freedom Gundam I've never bothered building, and a Turn A & Turn X pair I built.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2017, 07:26:31 PM: Speaking of endings. Let's talk about how Gundam series have like the best endings ever. 0079, Zeta, Turn A, SEED, 00 S1, Gundam Build Fighters, so many series go from like good to A++ in those last finale battles. I can't even pick a favorite, though Zeta's last 3-4 ep battle is probably the most epic sci-fi war scrimmage ever. But yeah, Turn A...load up a youtube of that final ep and watch the last 10 mins and be reminded of why it's so good. Then don't bother rewatching the show because you'll get bored and drop it less than 20 eps in.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: toku on May 23, 2017, 07:46:35 PM: I was an early defender of SEED back in the day even if it is a not so subtle remake of 0079. But they through out all my good will with SEED Destiny. Similar thing with 00. Solid to great 1st season and then a trainwreck with everything that came after.

The 00 movie is so fucking bad. Please, even if you somehow fuck with 00 s2, don't watch the movie.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2017, 07:52:00 PM: Yup, I like SEED even if it's kinda dated and angsty. The final battle stuff is great and Freedom Gundam is a really cool design. There's a part after
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Fllay dies
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where Kira/Freedom start falling and then the FREEDOM & JUSTICE song starts playing and he becomes Jesus Yamato and rises again that is great. Destiny is a piece of shit though. 00 S1 was pretty good, especially the 2nd half & final battles, S2 was Geass bad but entertaining, but the movie is just so bad.

dat Turn A ending SPOILERS
spoiler (click to show/hide)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-BK5LNRUOQ
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Probably never see another ending montage that good in Gundam ever again. That's like Ghibli/Satoshi Kon level of ending.
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2017, 07:56:05 PM: Welcome to Gundam. It's hard to think of a Gundam series where the main unit isn't OP. 0080 War in the Pocket and 08th Team is all I can think of off the top of my head. The problem is that usually the main character has a Gundam and everyone else has grunt units, so it's not really a fair battle even if the Gundam is initially weak.
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Post by: Bebpo on May 23, 2017, 08:20:21 PM: Gundam series also have great music on average, even the shitty ones :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK4nggli_0E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgDoFxS9O0s&index=26&list=PL-Uv1b74NORWHTTwb7T1CNUTtZJhWuOSd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyZ98XhbSFQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoJQcQ3yyCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re0jXF7dZ8w
Title: Re: toku tell me about gundam
Post by: Beezy on May 24, 2017, 04:55:45 AM: Those Advance of Zeta designs... :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat