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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Great Rumbler on December 02, 2016, 09:34:12 PM

Title: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 02, 2016, 09:34:12 PM
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Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Himu on December 02, 2016, 10:36:24 PM
Thought it was going to be awesome the last month or so, but did have my grievances and worries before (mostly around E3). If you bothered to pay attention to the previews the press were gushing over last month none of this should honestly be much of a surprise. :yeshrug

Looking at responses most people surprised they like the game so much did not bother to read nor watch previews of the game last month when the press got to play 15 or so hours of the game. When I posted quotes and stuff people like mormapope completely ignored it while embracing their own perspective.

Essentially, Demi was right. Lots of people wanted this game to fail without any actual knowledge on how the game is. Though to be fair, releasing the Platinum demo and the Titan e3 demo didn't do any favors.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Let's Cyber on December 02, 2016, 10:57:17 PM
I was the most wrong.

Just cruising the country side with your bros on chocobos was worth the price of admission.


Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 03, 2016, 12:14:19 AM
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the press were gushing

Ehh, gaming press previews almost always gush something fierce over big budget games, especially ones from storied franchises/developers. I wouldn't really correlate that to the end product's quality.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Tasty on December 03, 2016, 12:33:15 AM
Not very it seems. I never stopped thinking it looked awesome since the re-reveal, though I did think it might pull an MGSV and be light on story and have a lame finale.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Himu on December 03, 2016, 01:09:51 AM
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the press were gushing

Ehh, gaming press previews almost always gush something fierce over big budget games, especially ones from storied franchises/developers. I wouldn't really correlate that to the end product's quality.

In this case of this game, I don't think this is the case. Especially since the press were hyper critical of it earlier this year when the Titan demo dropped at E3 and the awful Platinum demo. Either way, the press played 15 hours and a lot of their footage was released. Polygon for instance put up an hour long preview video of various non-spoiler moments. The game looked amazing and I knew that by watching previews and reading previews that the press weren't up their ass. But I can't blame people for not having faith.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 03, 2016, 02:34:12 AM
For good and bad, it's exactly what I thought it was going to be.

I thought the lack of cinematics and a cinematic flair would lead to a lack of cutscenes and some pretty poorly directed ones. I was right.

I thought the combat would be fun, probably better than most open world rpgs, but still wonky. It is, but it also requires a bit more then simply mashing the attack button.

I thought the characters would be fun and enjoyable and they really are.

The open world would probably be empty and boring, but the road trip angle would make the open world be more like Mafia 2 or LA Noire where its there for atmosphere and immersion. In the end it really is and the road trip angle is well done and unique.

I'm not done with it, but I doubt it will top my favorites. I like it and really enjoy it, but it is missing those awesome FF monuments and scenes. The story telling is also a bit more choppy then I'd like. Jesus, more cutscenes and story would really help.

So far its:
X-XII-VI-XIII-XV-VIII-XIV-IX-VII-IV and then the others except XI which I haven't played much.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: archnemesis on December 03, 2016, 05:05:19 AM
Medium wrong. I'm having fun with it.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: SantaC on December 03, 2016, 10:05:17 AM
It is nice to have final fantasy back. Now if only zelda could be good again but i doubt it.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Positive Touch on December 03, 2016, 10:06:43 AM
lmao gtfo
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: benjipwns on December 03, 2016, 11:44:57 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Final_Fantasy_XV is still longer than [insert some other long wikipedia page here]
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: benjipwns on December 03, 2016, 11:45:32 PM
GQ.com: Should a Grown-Ass Man Care About Final Fantasy XV? (http://www.gq.com/story/final-fantasy-xv)
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: benjipwns on December 03, 2016, 11:53:39 PM
the more important question is, was this a satisfactory conclusion to Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy?
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: eleuin on December 04, 2016, 02:20:03 PM
Pleasantly surprised by how much I'm enjoying it

Expectations for 16 are really high, now that it won't be a salvage job

Hope they don't let toriyama or nomura ruin things again
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Positive Touch on December 04, 2016, 02:46:32 PM
still mad that Sakaguchi was forced out but Nomura is still there shitting things up.

anyway haven't felt omg best game ever feelings but I'm still enjoying it a lot. gameplay loop is pretty fun and I like every new area more than the last.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 04, 2016, 07:03:02 PM
still mad that Sakaguchi was forced out but Nomura is still there shitting things up.

It's all because of that stupid movie.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Positive Touch on December 04, 2016, 07:31:23 PM
that and playonline. which, i mean, both sucked, but damn the man still knew how to make great games. think of how different square might've turned out if he stayed.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Himu on December 04, 2016, 08:02:44 PM
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Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Positive Touch on December 04, 2016, 11:12:57 PM
type in "92456al4-Er80" to find out what's in this treasure chest and please for the love of god do not to to Gamefaqs instead
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Momo on December 04, 2016, 11:27:42 PM
My main complaint about the game was and still is the battle system, so I was right. Preference thing for me.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Your Stalker on December 05, 2016, 11:20:00 PM
I remember someone posted a "review" in the other thread where the "reviewer" seemed to care more about finding a good husbando more than playing a video game.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on December 05, 2016, 11:23:10 PM
I'll admit, I was like "Yeah, no. No more final fantasy for me. The best days are behind it. Not interested."

After reading people's impressions I have to admit my interest is piqued.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on December 06, 2016, 04:17:26 AM
I guess I was wrong. I did'nt expect it to be as disappointing as it is. It's not a bad game and the open world part is still decent. But they had the perfect means and ideas to tell an actual story despite being open world and they failed.

Urgency is always a problem in open worlds, but XV had the means to avoid that. It could have been an easy going travel story. Hang out with your buds, establish the personalties of the characters and the quirks of the world. Instead it chose to quickly reveal the Insomnia invasion. Which really should have happen until mid game. Though, even if you weren't going to be there for it, the game really should have started there. Where we see a little of the world, are introduced to the supporting cast, actually get a feel for Regis, and see Noctis as  the unenthused prince he should be at the beginning. But find we did'nt and fine we meet the strange lack or urgency in spite of the revelation. Still, after that it would have been fine to bum around as you still have to follow and find Luna and interact with some of the Summons. Maybe actually have mini episodes with some of the villains.

And then after this we could have switched to the more linear part of the 2nd half. Still though, the stay in Altissa should have been longer as to not make it feel pointless. Maybe explore around and about the the area. Actually interact with Ravus and hell Luna. Actually develop these two important characters and give some actual meaning. Get an actual feel and see what the Empire is up to here.

Then traveling to the other areas by train could have happen, but it shouldn't have felt so rushed. You should have had some mini episodes in the areas. Make them small little Regions unto themselves. Have Cor actually show up and be a character. have Vestal be up to some strange experiments at that place where you get the Katana. Have actual story and worldbuilding, just not rush to the ending.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: The Sceneman on December 07, 2016, 05:45:05 AM
After XIII-2 I knew this game was gonna be slick fire. Can't wait to play it!
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: bork on December 07, 2016, 02:14:21 PM
I'll admit, I was like "Yeah, no. No more final fantasy for me. The best days are behind it. Not interested."

After reading people's impressions I have to admit my interest is piqued.

Mine too, which is rare for FF.  But then I read that the game is "unfinished" and a ton more content is being patched in.  So maybe I'll see where things are in a year.  Probably won't care by that point, though.  Persona 5 and Mass Effect are next year.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: nachobro on December 07, 2016, 02:34:26 PM
or get it when the inevitable pc port happens. :drool i only got it because it was a great deal (gamestop discount on x1 version plus giftcard plus a free 360 game) but i am glad i did.
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: benjipwns on December 07, 2016, 09:46:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITfKaUFfx7g
Title: Re: How wrong were you about Final Fantasy 15?
Post by: toku on December 08, 2016, 09:58:12 AM
I refuse to believe y'all lies about FFXV