Carmen said that when she was with Jay he’d ask her weird questions about her and Nas, like what positions Nas liked to hit, and weird stuff… she said Jay-Z was obsessed with Nas(http://i.imgur.com/uxmXdXu.png)
she said in Jay’s Manhattan appartment Jay had a huge vinyl collection of rare Nas singles and shit…(http://i.imgur.com/Q1NuATb.png)
said she found Beyonce's number in Nas' jeans...Nas played it off like her breathe stank though:hitler
2pac
Now we can really start talking about the most overrated rapper.
2pac
Now we can really start talking about the most overrated rapper.
2Pac is excellent, dude made all sorts of great tracks. His biggest problem is his insane fanboys.lol wut at the bolded
Eminem is the most overrated rapper by far. Even in his prime he did more bad than good, and his best has aged like a day old open can of budweiser.
:pacspit2Pac is excellent, dude made all sorts of great tracks. His biggest problem is his insane fanboys.lol wut at the bolded
Eminem is the most overrated rapper by far. Even in his prime he did more bad than good, and his best has aged like a day old open can of budweiser.
Slim Shady LP was more bad songs than good, same for Marshal Mathers LP, same for Eminem Show, same for both D12 albums. We can also go back and include Infinite, his tapes with Royce, the EP, everything.
:pacspit2Pac is excellent, dude made all sorts of great tracks. His biggest problem is his insane fanboys.lol wut at the bolded
Eminem is the most overrated rapper by far. Even in his prime he did more bad than good, and his best has aged like a day old open can of budweiser.
Slim Shady LP was more bad songs than good, same for Marshal Mathers LP, same for Eminem Show, same for both D12 albums. We can also go back and include Infinite, his tapes with Royce, the EP, everything.
id agree but now there is "rappers" like lil wayne
wait till you hear lil wayne on a classic hip hop stattion and come back
btw I saw Busta Rhymes on Jimmy Fallon sn dude got fat af
you really got me there didnt you :comeon:pacspit2Pac is excellent, dude made all sorts of great tracks. His biggest problem is his insane fanboys.lol wut at the bolded
Eminem is the most overrated rapper by far. Even in his prime he did more bad than good, and his best has aged like a day old open can of budweiser.
Slim Shady LP was more bad songs than good, same for Marshal Mathers LP, same for Eminem Show, same for both D12 albums. We can also go back and include Infinite, his tapes with Royce, the EP, everything.
We're grown men now. Majority of Eminem's work expires the minute you hit puberty.
you really got me there didnt you :comeon
??? Did you actually listen to his music or did you just skim through it? By my estimation, he's got 2 certified classics in RD and TBA, a borderline classic in BP1, and what is probably the best singles catalogue in rap period.
And I say this as someone who thinks that: a) Illmatic is probably the best rap album ever; b) sober discussion on either of the men's discographies has to acknowledge any rekindling of the beef for what it really is, posthoc navel gazing over something that neither of the original combatants actually cares about; and c) jay has a legit claim to be one of the best verse writers in rap, this last point has been obscured over the last 15 years because of both the poor output since his comeback and the narrative that pigeonholes him as the Big Daddy Kane to Nas' Rakim.
In short, yes, Eminem is the most overrated rapper.
??? Did you actually listen to his music or did you just skim through it? By my estimation, he's got 2 certified classics in RD and TBA, a borderline classic in BP1, and what is probably the best singles catalogue in rap period.
And I say this as someone who thinks that: a) Illmatic is probably the best rap album ever; b) sober discussion on either of the men's discographies has to acknowledge any rekindling of the beef for what it really is, posthoc navel gazing over something that neither of the original combatants actually cares about; and c) jay has a legit claim to be one of the best verse writers in rap, this last point has been obscured over the last 15 years because of both the poor output since his comeback and the narrative that pigeonholes him as the Big Daddy Kane to Nas' Rakim.
In short, yes, Eminem is the most overrated rapper.
RD is a classic. Never really "got" BP1. Never listened to TBA. Find the rest to be boring or filler. For his place in hip hop, I think he's overrated and I'd rather have Puffy over him.
My turning point on eminem was in the summer after junior year of HS when I heard a Atlantan suburbanite say "I think he's the best rapper ever, and not just cuz he's white"
It really shocks me that he's as big as he is today. He's actually gotten worse than he was at his peak. He used to be able to string words together in a clever way that could convey a thought or feeling (sick of aggy bosses bitching while i'm washin dishes) and now he just comes up with the most technical rhymes he can that have absolutely zero or less than zero substance. I honestly thought syph was joking when he posted that Trump thing he did last month
I just want to say god damn is Big Pimpin good :lawdhttp://www.bratproductions.com/mixes/mashups/brat_bigshotpimpin.html :lawd
So it looks like Jay Z is just the most overrated rapper that you've never actually listened to
Y'all bring up Nas but the artist that made me a hip hop fan was Kanye West. College Dropout was the first hip hop record I actually connected to. It helped that I also wanted to drop out of college. I identified with that album. After that album I placed the genre on a completely different standard. After that I went back and became intimate with the genre.
Doesn't like mobb deep, young Jeezy, jay z and no limit
Likes Jurassic 5
:dead
Mr. nobody is right you have the taste of a 14yo white guy in 2005
lol @ me being an 'emotional stan' because you're calling someone overrated and haven't listened to half their discography, after writing that dissertation no less
I like how we are talking about over rated rappers with out bringing up Beastie Boys. I mean I appreciative that they taught us that shit rhymes can literally give you mouth cancer but that's really the extent of their achievements.
this thread just reconfirmed that Yeezy stans are the actual worst
not sure why wanderingwind posted eminem's 'campaign speech' ???
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Doesn't like mobb deep, young Jeezy, jay z and no limit
Likes Jurassic 5
:dead
Mr. nobody is right you have the taste of a 14yo white guy in 2005
Now you throwing INSULTS because I don't like the same rappers you do. Jay-Z needs to teach his stans some manners. :wag
My hip hop album of the year is Yes Lawd. Fuck you insulting me like this. My taste is fine! Almost all my favorite rappers are pro-black af. You mention I don't like no limit but I DO like Cash Money which I mentioned earlier. No Limit was trash outside of Silkk The Shocker. Everyone knows Cash Money was better.
:pacspit
Doesn't like mobb deep, young Jeezy, jay z and no limit
Likes Jurassic 5
:dead
Mr. nobody is right you have the taste of a 14yo white guy in 2005
Now you throwing INSULTS because I don't like the same rappers you do. Jay-Z needs to teach his stans some manners. :wag
My hip hop album of the year is Yes Lawd. Fuck you insulting me like this. My taste is fine! Almost all my favorite rappers are pro-black af. You mention I don't like no limit but I DO like Cash Money which I mentioned earlier. No Limit was trash outside of Silkk The Shocker. Everyone knows Cash Money was better.
:pacspit
:stahp
You pick the rapper who is objectively the worst on No Limit to prop up? Silkk is fundamentally bad at rapping :mindblown
At the 45th Grammy Awards, it was nominated for Best Male Rap Solo Performance, but it lost to Nelly's "Hot in Herre"mods help
This dude actually said I have the taste of a white person when my GOAT made a song literally calling coons. :aah
If you were to make a list of White Hip Hop Fans favorite 5 rappers/acts circa 2016-19xx it'd look like this:
Eminem
2pac
Kanye West
Nas
Wu-Tang
I highly suggest you drop this subject now.QuoteAt the 45th Grammy Awards, it was nominated for Best Male Rap Solo Performance, but it lost to Nelly's "Hot in Herre"mods help
Hot in Herre deserved it :clap
Calling Jay-Z overrated with a limited exposure to his music is one thing
Wrong. I've listened to all his albums up to black album and nothing past that besides throne.
Jay Z stans emotional af
Tribe wrote a song about how eggs are bad for you. That's enough to knock them off any top 10 list.
That was not the part of the quote I'm confused about
??? Did you actually listen to his music or did you just skim through it? By my estimation, he's got 2 certified classics in RD and TBA, a borderline classic in BP1, and what is probably the best singles catalogue in rap period.
And I say this as someone who thinks that: a) Illmatic is probably the best rap album ever; b) sober discussion on either of the men's discographies has to acknowledge any rekindling of the beef for what it really is, posthoc navel gazing over something that neither of the original combatants actually cares about; and c) jay has a legit claim to be one of the best verse writers in rap, this last point has been obscured over the last 15 years because of both the poor output since his comeback and the narrative that pigeonholes him as the Big Daddy Kane to Nas' Rakim.
In short, yes, Eminem is the most overrated rapper.
RD is a classic. Never really "got" BP1. Never listened to TBA. Find the rest to be boring or filler. For his place in hip hop, I think he's overrated and I'd rather have Puffy over him.
:heh
Fuck off.
Part of me wants to defend Himu because her views on hip hop are clearly coming a southern perspective, whereas most rap discussions tend to go back and forth between east or west coast fans.Considering the thread, there might be a reason for that. :doge
Southern rap fans like Jay-Z. He was one of the first NY rappers to actually shout the south out and give it dap instead of hatingYea things changed in the late 90s. Even Nas did a track with Master P. Today I'd say Hov/Nas/etc are put on a pedestal by many fans across the country, but I was referring to the early and mid 90s moreso with my post. TBH I'm surprised Himu even likes Reasonable Doubt. How do you heavily cosign that but think The Infamous is whatever...
Southern rap fans like Jay-Z. He was one of the first NY rappers to actually shout the south out and give it dap instead of hatingYea things changed in the late 90s. Even Nas did a track with Master P. Today I'd say Hov/Nas/etc are put on a pedestal by many fans across the country, but I was referring to the early and mid 90s moreso with my post. TBH I'm surprised Himu even likes Reasonable Doubt. How do you heavily cosign that but think The Infamous is whatever...
Mob deep never clicked with me much either. Not sure why, had all the elements I was into, but on listen it just left me flat. A few of the tracks off infamous are great of course, it overall, eh.
Whereas the first Outkast album I heard was Speakerboxxx/Low Below.:holeup
Whereas the first Outkast album I heard was Speakerboxxx/Low Below.:holeup
>calls Jay-Z a lazy rapper
>writes paragraphs praising Kanye West, saying that his lack of rapping ability doesn't matter
:rofl classic himuro
So Jay-Z is the FF of hip hop then. Long past their respective primes but people refuse to stfu about either of them. :doge
Great, an excuse to post this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjS0d5OxrZs