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Title: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2017, 11:11:15 AM
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/12/16268126/apple-event-live-stream-time-new-iphone-x-8-schedule

Safari on macOS or Edge on Windows 10 required for the livestream (yes this is still true, in the Year of Our Lord 2017.)

I'm actually pretty interested in seeing what they do with the new Nine-Hundred and Ninety U.S. Dollars iPhone X. The camera improvements are probably nuts.

(https://i.imgur.com/5NGoa8ql.jpg)

I can't tell if this I like the wider cutout at the top like this concept, or the small dot like on the Essential Phone (http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/essential-phone-white.jpg). They're both pretty cool and exciting in any case.

Non-square screens and screens with cutouts. :rejoice

"Fingerprint sensor? What's that?" :idont

Going to need to see a lot of improvements in Siri for the HomePod to make more sense than an Amazon Echo or Google Home.

Apple TV "but for real this time guys," Mk. 5.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJiFtoFXcAU5u4p.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Brehvolution on September 12, 2017, 11:13:51 AM
I don't get the wailing at the price. Everyone happily paid between $749-$899 for the iPhone in their pocket right now.

Looking forward to  Apple TV 4K
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2017, 11:15:26 AM
I don't get the wailing at the price. Everyone happily paid between $749-$899 for the current iPhone in their pocket right now.

Yeah, or they got it subsidized by carriers anyways.

If the improvements justify the price, it's fine IMO. I'm most interested in seeing what they can do with camera tech in a brand new $1000 phone.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Brehvolution on September 12, 2017, 11:17:20 AM
Having used a 6S+ for almost 2 years now, I can't go back to a smaller phone. If the X is the small size then it isn't for me.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2017, 11:18:18 AM
Size is supposed to be slightly larger than the normal iPhone, but with the screen size of a Plus. I think.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Brehvolution on September 12, 2017, 11:19:14 AM
 :checkit
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TVC15 on September 12, 2017, 11:26:01 AM
I feel kind of weird for saying this, but I think no Touch ID means I'm not on board. Facial recognition shit just isn't as flexible.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: demi on September 12, 2017, 11:36:32 AM
Cant play my old games on it
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TVC15 on September 12, 2017, 12:10:00 PM
Add a poll asking whether I'll buy one :(
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2017, 01:04:51 PM
Oh shit they got Jobs’ ghost back to shill this shit.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 12, 2017, 01:14:10 PM
if its bigger then then the 6s/7 Im out
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Brehvolution on September 12, 2017, 02:28:15 PM
Face ID just made it super easy for cops to unlock your phone.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 12, 2017, 02:38:35 PM
the iphone X screen isn't even 1440p? my 2 year old phone has a higher pixel density that it.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2017, 02:41:10 PM
the iphone X screen isn't even 1440p? my 2 year old phone has a higher pixel density that it.

Super Retina breh, highest PPI of any iPhone

Face ID just made it super easy for cops to unlock your phone.

Doesn't work with closed eyes or pictures.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2017, 02:49:53 PM
Why did they pull an MS and skip 9 though? :thinking
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Brehvolution on September 12, 2017, 02:56:53 PM
$999 for a 64gb phone is certainly "couragious".  :thinking

Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TVC15 on September 12, 2017, 03:02:02 PM
That was pretty underwhelming. I see no reason to upgrade from my 7+ right now.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2017, 03:04:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jhE3qeR.png)
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TVC15 on September 12, 2017, 03:08:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jhE3qeR.png)

Nobody said anything when they skipped 2.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jhE3qeR.png)

Nobody said anything when they skipped 2.

I mean the Ten is technically iPhone 11 but whatever, it's more the fact they have two new products: one called 8 and one called "Ten." :lol
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TVC15 on September 12, 2017, 03:38:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jhE3qeR.png)

Nobody said anything when they skipped 2.

I mean the Ten is technically iPhone 11 but whatever, it's more the fact they have two new products: one called 8 and one called "Ten." :lol

They really should have just called it iPhone "Ecks", but they do indeed call it ten.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 12, 2017, 03:47:37 PM
I think I might hold off on the X and just to Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program until next year and jump onto the X-2/S/whatever
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: nachobro on September 12, 2017, 04:17:56 PM
why no fingerprint sensor? that's my favorite thing from the iphone i have now :maf
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Positive Touch on September 12, 2017, 04:50:05 PM
I'd just like to point out that my year old s7 edge has both a glass back and facial recognition



(and both suck btw)
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Positive Touch on September 12, 2017, 04:52:06 PM

Face ID just made it super easy for cops to unlock your phone.

Doesn't work with closed eyes or pictures.

doesn't matter when they can just coerce you to look into your own phone :/ is the face id mandatory or not?
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 12, 2017, 05:01:31 PM

Face ID just made it super easy for cops to unlock your phone.

Doesn't work with closed eyes or pictures.

doesn't matter when they can just coerce you to look into your own phone :/ is the face id mandatory or not?

It's mandatory for Apple Pay but I doubt it is for phone unlock.

But maybe I'm wrong – that's how Touch ID was anyway.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: WaveRacer 64 on September 12, 2017, 05:02:31 PM
The models they use look straight out of Benetton.

(https://i.imgur.com/Cn8xkEU.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2017, 05:11:28 PM
I'd just like to point out that my year old s7 edge has both a glass back and facial recognition



(and both suck btw)

I hate getting into pissing matches about who-did-what-first because it never really matters, but if we're focusing on the Android side of things, Android 4.0 in 2011 had Face Unlock, and although a couple phones had it earlier I think the first major phone with Qi wireless charging and a glass back was the Nexus 4 in 2012. :P

That said, all that was a long time ago and I'm sure the tech has progressed (the infrared stuff in the X is far above simple camera-based recognition), but figured it should be said.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2017, 05:15:01 PM
I think I might hold off on the X and just to Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program until next year and jump onto the X-2/S/whatever

I mean, if you don't care about the screen, the 8 Plus is the exact same specs at a slightly cheaper price.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 12, 2017, 05:50:35 PM
I think I might hold off on the X and just to Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program until next year and jump onto the X-2/S/whatever

I mean, if you don't care about the screen, the 8 Plus is the exact same specs at a slightly cheaper price.

The thing is, I DO care about the screen.  :-\

It's the screen I've wanted for the last like 5 years.  I was really tempted to get an S8 but I don't like Samsung's shell on top of Android and I want a phone that behaves with my Apple Watch.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: chronovore on September 12, 2017, 06:26:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jhE3qeR.png)

Nobody said anything when they skipped 2.

I mean the Ten is technically iPhone 11 but whatever, it's more the fact they have two new products: one called 8 and one called "Ten." :lol

They really should have just called it iPhone "Ecks", but they do indeed call it ten.
It's funny, try calling OSX "Oh Ess Ecks" at a Mac Fanboi gathering. You'll get a chorus of "It's Oh Ess TEN!" in a squeaky high register, with some voices shrilly cracking.

if its bigger then then the 6s/7 Im out
Yeah, oddly when I grab my old iPhone 5S, I prefer its more manageable size to my 6.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 12, 2017, 06:43:05 PM
Still see no reason to burden myself with the kind of negativity that iOS brings into one's life, other than the fact that Android STILL doesn't have the Hater dating app. Will wait for the Pixel XL 2 announcement next month and then in all likelihood just score a cheap OG Pixel XL.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 12, 2017, 06:52:58 PM
I was really tempted to get an S8 but I don't like Samsung's shell on top of Android and I want a phone that behaves with my Apple Watch.

Can't help ya with the Apple Watch, but the Pixel XL 2 might interest you.

(https://i.imgur.com/4DnqJ4jl.jpg)

If you're jumping between mobile OS's a lot, you should probably go with devices and services that work with both (*cough Android Wear/Fit/everything Google*)
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: nudemacusers on September 12, 2017, 07:45:42 PM
Really glad to see Apple push things forward with wireless charging and face recognition
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: nachobro on September 12, 2017, 08:05:00 PM
Yeah, oddly when I grab my old iPhone 5S, I prefer its more manageable size to my 6.
iPhone SE, best phone :rejoice
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: chronovore on September 12, 2017, 08:32:07 PM
Yeah, oddly when I grab my old iPhone 5S, I prefer its more manageable size to my 6.
iPhone SE, best phone :rejoice

I'm seriously more likely to wait for a smaller phone. I don't need a mini-tablet.

Does the SE get regular, minimal spec changes to stay current, or is it a dead-end vein despite its lack of number?
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: nachobro on September 12, 2017, 08:42:02 PM
Not sure on that, so far this is the only one they've put out (17 months ago) but I hope it stays updated. I only just switched back to ios from android recently but I was actually glad to go back to a smaller phone from the 5.7" one I was using before.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: chronovore on September 12, 2017, 09:24:43 PM
Not sure on that, so far this is the only one they've put out (17 months ago) but I hope it stays updated. I only just switched back to ios from android recently but I was actually glad to go back to a smaller phone from the 5.7" one I was using before.

Its resale value in Japan is in-fucking-sane. Even the 16GB version is over 200 bucks, and the Actually Feasible Amount of Memory models are in the 500-600 bucks range.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Trent Dole on September 12, 2017, 09:48:48 PM
https://twitter.com/calestous/status/907776932011536385
:P
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: brawndolicious on September 12, 2017, 11:09:21 PM
I think I might hold off on the X and just to Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program until next year and jump onto the X-2/S/whatever

I mean, if you don't care about the screen, the 8 Plus is the exact same specs at a slightly cheaper price.

The thing is, I DO care about the screen.  :-\

It's the screen I've wanted for the last like 5 years.  I was really tempted to get an S8 but I don't like Samsung's shell on top of Android and I want a phone that behaves with my Apple Watch.

The X looks rushed really. My bet is in a year or two, the selfie camera and the fingerprint sensor will find their way under the screen (apparently that tech exists but isn't at mass production stage yet).

I'd recommend the iPhone upgrade program or just get a Pixel XL2. Have you ever used an Android phone daily?
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: nudemacusers on September 12, 2017, 11:25:33 PM
Yeah x looks like an old school rev a Apple release. Wait for round 2 imo.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 13, 2017, 12:59:06 AM
Yeah, oddly when I grab my old iPhone 5S, I prefer its more manageable size to my 6.
iPhone SE, best phone :rejoice

I'm seriously more likely to wait for a smaller phone. I don't need a mini-tablet.

Does the SE get regular, minimal spec changes to stay current, or is it a dead-end vein despite its lack of number?

I hope so, I think there is a big segment of people that dont want anything bigger.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2017, 01:56:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HTXMhKWqnA

The amount of hidden gestures needed to move around the OS (swipe "halfway" up for multitasking… what??) feels too “mystery meat” for me.

Like I get they don't want to seem like they're copying Android and doing a software home button, but... yeah I dunno. I'm sure people will get used to it but these things having no/very little on-screen UI could be a nightmare for normies.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 13, 2017, 02:47:44 AM
Sticking with my 7+ for the time being.  I look forward to the X2 when that inevitably comes out next year.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: chronovore on September 13, 2017, 03:52:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HTXMhKWqnA

The amount of hidden gestures needed to move around the OS (swipe "halfway" up for multitasking… what??) feels too “mystery meat” for me.

Like I get they don't want to seem like they're copying Android and doing a software home button, but... yeah I dunno. I'm sure people will get used to it but these things having no/very little on-screen UI could be a nightmare for normies.

Jesus fucking Christ, no kidding.

This reminds me of all the hidden gestures in Win8, and I hated them then, too.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: nudemacusers on September 13, 2017, 06:50:09 AM
Yeah the olds are going to be confused. The home button is such a perfect conceit, why bamboozle it.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on September 13, 2017, 08:31:46 AM
The home swipe is really shit, hats were you normally get the mini menu... and that is already a pain to open.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2017, 09:26:23 AM
Part of me is starting to really fear that Google is gonna mess up (stock) Android's perfect "Back/Home/Multitasking" system menu with gestures and shit now that Apple's "paving the way."  :-\
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 13, 2017, 09:54:09 AM
I think I might hold off on the X and just to Apple's iPhone Upgrade Program until next year and jump onto the X-2/S/whatever

I mean, if you don't care about the screen, the 8 Plus is the exact same specs at a slightly cheaper price.

The thing is, I DO care about the screen.  :-\

It's the screen I've wanted for the last like 5 years.  I was really tempted to get an S8 but I don't like Samsung's shell on top of Android and I want a phone that behaves with my Apple Watch.

The X looks rushed really. My bet is in a year or two, the selfie camera and the fingerprint sensor will find their way under the screen (apparently that tech exists but isn't at mass production stage yet).

I'd recommend the iPhone upgrade program or just get a Pixel XL2. Have you ever used an Android phone daily?

A while back, yeah – I was carrying around a Nexus 5 along with my iPhone for work and really enjoyed it, but again, I have other things that rely on my iPhone.

I'm still not really sure what to do.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Brehvolution on September 13, 2017, 01:13:23 PM
iOS 11 is available through the beta program. It's not a beta.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 13, 2017, 04:06:00 PM
Chrono might be tickled by this:

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--adAHJkTj--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ghn1glabwnsqdmxdc2rh.jpg)

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iOS 10 already had the rather flimsy iCloud Drive for getting at your files, but the Files app in iOS 11 is much better—it lets you browse through files stored in iCloud, on the local device, and even in third-party services like Dropbox, all through one simple interface. It almost feels like a real computer!
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: G The Resurrected on September 13, 2017, 07:50:31 PM
I've been using iOS 11 since June and it's been awesome especially on my iPad Air 2. Had a few battery issues with it on my 7 plus though, but that has all but worked out. Official 11 is amazing for lots of little reasons, but the biggest for me has been files. That program is freaking magic like.

I haven't decided on if I'm getting a 8 or X, but i'm leaning with sticking with the 7 plus. The 8 plus does have quick charge, but they aren't including anything for it. Nor are they giving the 8 plus the dual image stabilization of the X. That series 3 watch on the other hand is mine! Somedays I just want to be as light as possible and if I can still use my AirPods for calls on that it's as good as bought.

Also job well done with getting 6 of the 7 major film distributors to agree to prices on 4k content and giving free upgrades to those that have already purchased into the iTunes library. That is a huge thing for 4k content that should be news in itself but people don't give a shit about 4k or UHDs for that matter.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: nudemacusers on September 13, 2017, 07:59:28 PM
Didn't catch the 4K freebie news; makes it an instabuy for me. I have probably 100+ movies on iTunes. :doge
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 17, 2017, 05:10:25 PM
Didn't catch the 4K freebie news; makes it an instabuy for me. I have probably 100+ movies on iTunes. :doge

I don't even have, nor plan to buy, a 4K TV, but I really want Google to do this. I have 100+ movies in Google Play. :doge
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: nudemacusers on September 17, 2017, 05:12:42 PM
I think everyone will have to respond in kind, or at least I’d hope they do.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 17, 2017, 05:16:34 PM
Google also needs to copy all the extra goodies iTunes gets.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Brehvolution on September 19, 2017, 10:01:45 AM
I wish WatchOS 4 would gtf here ffs.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: thisismyusername on September 19, 2017, 11:08:23 AM
Doesn't work with closed eyes or pictures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hji3kp_i9k

I await the day when someone breaks FaceID. It'll happen, and then I'll come back to this post and be all ":smug" about it.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: G The Resurrected on September 22, 2017, 02:26:37 AM
Well two things I wasn't expecting this week. Apple TV 4k sucks balls apparently with HDR content and no auto switching for HDR10 to Dolby Vision. iPhone 8+ apparently is a good upgrade from a 7+ just for the camera/video. I'm ain't gonna lie the pictures and video coming out of the early reviews are looking so much better than the 7+ and Note 8. Apparently 600mhz varieties are coming early 2018 for those on T-mobile, free swaps if you are in one of those markets.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2017, 11:54:17 AM
Apple’s Latest Products Get Rare Mixed-Bag Reviews (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-21/apple-s-latest-products-get-rare-mixed-bag-reviews)

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Despite the strength of its brand, Apple Inc. occasionally releases a product to mediocre reviews – remember the original Apple TV or Apple Watch? But reviewers have rarely been as grumpy as this month, when Apple unveiled its collection of new gadgets for the holidays.

Each product was docked by reviewers for specific functional flaws, ranging from the iPhone 8’s middling design to Apple Watch Series 3 issues with wireless connectivity, and quality problems with the Apple TV 4K's video output.

Tough crowd.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Bebpo on September 22, 2017, 04:32:06 PM
I finally updated my iphone 6S. Been holding off because usually the newer OSs are built for the new models and slow down the older models, but damn, ios8 is fricken fast on my 6S. Phone feels like it's running much smoother now. First time I've been impressed by an Apple OS in a long time.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: chronovore on September 22, 2017, 10:29:32 PM
I'm so reluctant to install iOS 11 on my devices. point-oh releases are never a good idea, even with Apple. Still, anecdotal evidence from friends says it's safe. I'm torn!

My AppleTV self-updated to something this morning, but it still has the one, unidentified source problem as before. Streaming is fine, speed test is ridiculously fast 80mPS down, 70 up. But for some reason, specific TV shows' top-pages, the episode selection page, won't load. It just hangs forever, I have to back out and re-try. 30 Rock ALWAYS has this problem. This is not the future liberals want.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 22, 2017, 10:52:51 PM
Just read The Verge's review of Apple TV 4K, sounds like it's literally in shambles right now. :doge

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/21/16341876/new-apple-tv-4k-review-2017

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Still got a 7.5 lol.
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Now, you do get a lot for that $179: the Apple TV is currently the only standalone box that supports the Dolby Vision HDR standard, which is a big deal. (The $69 Chromecast Ultra supports it, but it’s spotty and it lacks its own interface.)

"You do get a lot for $180, like Dolby Vision, even though there's a $70 device that also supports it... uhh... well that's not as good because it doesn't have its own UI, and also it supports it on only some apps... Like the Apple TV's 4K support. Wait, shit. Supposed to spin this as a positive for Apple."
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Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: G The Resurrected on September 23, 2017, 12:10:13 AM
I'm so reluctant to install iOS 11 on my devices. point-oh releases are never a good idea, even with Apple. Still, anecdotal evidence from friends says it's safe. I'm torn!

Do it! 11 is rock solid and been the best OS update I've seen from Apple in years. If you have an older device you'll notice a nice little jump in performance too.

TV 4k shipped today... I'm not looking forward to being pissed off with it.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Bebpo on September 23, 2017, 01:50:46 AM
This is ios11? Man I thought it was ios8; I'm so far behind on firmware updates  :lol
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: chronovore on September 23, 2017, 01:56:17 AM
This is ios11? Man I thought it was ios8; I'm so far behind on firmware updates  :lol

Still a software update, just at the OS level. I bit and now my old 5S isn't chugging as much as it was. My iPad Air 2 is about 80% through the install now.

My "older" devices were really feeling slow prior to this update. Super annoyingly slow. Now I wonder if Apple messing with things behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: G The Resurrected on September 24, 2017, 01:55:13 AM
I went from a Mini 3 (basically a Mini 2) iPad to a hand me down Air 2 from the Missus when the 10.5 iPad Pro came out. Got right into the beta for iOS 11 and loved it since day one. Made that device feel brand new and fresh. Apple made a choice with iOS 11 to go full 64bit which runs better on their custom SoC's which is why it is such a huge improvement over past iOS updates.

Got my hands on the 8's today and I'm conflicted. I'm on iUP for upgrades and I should get the 8 plus, but the glass has got me concerned the demo units were not holding up well around the edges after just one day of use. You can see tiny little fractures in the glass on the rear and the new rounded front glass seems more flimsy. I have to wonder if years of not having glass backs really hurt their repair business and this is a way to make additional income off of customers. On the plus side True color is awesome and when you shine a flashlight right on the screen you can tell the difference and see your screen, something you can't do with the 7. Cameras are awesome and smoother, as a beta tester for the dual lenses in the 7 plus it seems like they figured out how people take pictures and made a software/hardware fix that seems like a meaningful update.

The Genius lead let me know they will apply any additional months paid in iUP if I choose to hold out for the X. Which I might just do...

Apple TV 4k SUCKS  :-X What a fuck up of a device. HDR is either turned on or off essentially and there is no good fix right now. Thus making the device useless since everything that isn't HDR content looks like shit!
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 24, 2017, 11:33:11 AM
I got the 8 Plus instead of the X.

I'm on the yearly upgrade program just in case the X-2 fixes the issues the X will inevitably have. 

I like it a lot so far, especially coming from the 6.  But good lord,

(https://i.imgflip.com/1p9nvp.jpg)
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 24, 2017, 01:56:29 PM
Apple TV 4k SUCKS  :-X What a fuck up of a device. HDR is either turned on or off essentially and there is no good fix right now. Thus making the device useless since everything that isn't HDR content looks like shit!

Lulz
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: G The Resurrected on September 24, 2017, 06:07:17 PM
Rental report of The Mummy 4k HDR

PQ on this release on Apple TV 4k was awesome so much higher bitrate than Vudu or Google Play. Defacto 4k rentals are gonna be iTunes for sure due to price and the fact they seem to not crush blacks at all due to higher bitrates. Even in motion you could tell the detail is there unlike other streaming services which suck for 4k rentals.


Edit: I watched it on UHD....
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: chronovore on September 24, 2017, 09:57:25 PM
This is ios11? Man I thought it was ios8; I'm so far behind on firmware updates  :lol

Still a software update, just at the OS level. I bit and now my old 5S isn't chugging as much as it was. My iPad Air 2 is about 80% through the install now.

My "older" devices were really feeling slow prior to this update. Super annoyingly slow. Now I wonder if Apple messing with things behind the scenes.

Update's update: My 5S seems about the same, my iPad Air 2 is like using a new device, it's peppy and fun to play with. Unfortunately, the iPhone 6 update was borked so badly, repeatedly, that it put itself in Restore mode and I had to revert to backup. It took several hours to finally get it working again.

And now that it's on there, I can almost WATCH the battery draining. Had an hour of web browsing and facebook, watched it drain from 99% to 76% — glad I've got a battery case for it, but this is NOT an efficient OS so far.


Rental report of The Mummy 4k HDR

PQ on this release on Apple TV 4k was awesome so much higher bitrate than Vudu or Google Play. Defacto 4k rentals are gonna be iTunes for sure due to price and the fact they seem to not crush blacks at all due to higher bitrates. Even in motion you could tell the detail is there unlike other streaming services which suck for 4k rentals.
:badass
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on September 24, 2017, 10:38:16 PM
I'm so reluctant to install iOS 11 on my devices. point-oh releases are never a good idea, even with Apple. Still, anecdotal evidence from friends says it's safe. I'm torn!

Do it! 11 is rock solid and been the best OS update I've seen from Apple in years. If you have an older device you'll notice a nice little jump in performance too.


Huh? I'm on a 6 or 6s and half my apps bug the fuck out now and my battery is draining faster than ever
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 25, 2017, 11:27:47 AM
Rental report of The Mummy 4k HDR

PQ on this release on Apple TV 4k was awesome so much higher bitrate than Vudu or Google Play. Defacto 4k rentals are gonna be iTunes for sure due to price and the fact they seem to not crush blacks at all due to higher bitrates. Even in motion you could tell the detail is there unlike other streaming services which suck for 4k rentals.


Edit: I watched it on UHD....

:lol
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2017, 05:16:52 PM
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/09/27/google-play-movies-seems-to-be-moving-to-match-apples-new-19-99-uhd-pricing/

Don't say this too often, but thank god for Apple. :rejoice
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: G The Resurrected on September 27, 2017, 05:53:48 PM
:lol

Yeah I know I should have known better. We watched a few more 4k movies and the bitrate is higher than Google/Vudu that much I can say. Missus was fucking with me really good for a day... Got her back by getting her a 8+ and not a X. I'll be getting an X.  :D


Glad to see the pricing wars have begun! Now if only a digital locker system similar to Disney Movies Anywhere would just be the norm. I've got lots of movies on Vudu that I don't have on iTunes and if the quality thing keeps being an issue I'd like to watch my movies on iTunes instead.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: chronovore on September 27, 2017, 08:26:29 PM
:lol

Yeah I know I should have known better. We watched a few more 4k movies and the bitrate is higher than Google/Vudu that much I can say. Missus was fucking with me really good for a day... Got her back by getting her a 8+ and not a X. I'll be getting an X.  :D


Glad to see the pricing wars have begun! Now if only a digital locker system similar to Disney Movies Anywhere would just be the norm. I've got lots of movies on Vudu that I don't have on iTunes and if the quality thing keeps being an issue I'd like to watch my movies on iTunes instead.

What's Vudu? Is that actually a thing?

From Japan, it's really opaque. I see a half-dozen streaming movie providers, but for me they're all IP-region-blocked. Other than reading online about them, I have no idea if anyone is encroaching on Netflix successfully. Most people seem to dislike Hulu. Amazon isn't bad, has neat exclusives, but I'm assuming the USA uses an identical app to Amazon.co.jp, which SUCKS sweaty balls.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on September 27, 2017, 08:59:17 PM
Amazon has a good selection but the UI in both mobile and desktop is a nightmare. It's disorganized as fuck, and they need to completely separate the streaming part from the pay-to-rent-or-own part. It's way too easy to search for something you want to stream and end up being sold it instead
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 27, 2017, 09:35:50 PM
Amazon sucks at UI, it is known.

And also hardware design actually.

They're good at retail stuff though, and props for Kindle and Alexa. But yeah... I don't know how anyone could really be an Amazon fanboy in the same way I understand Apple/Google fans.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: chronovore on September 28, 2017, 04:56:45 AM
 I literally groan in frustration at least once a day due to the Amazon prime streaming video app’s shitty interface. It is way too easy to accidentally back out of a screen, either by selecting past the leftmost item, or hitting the wrong X versus circle button on the PlayStation controller, or misidentifying which item is actually live in currently selected in screen hierarchy.

 On top of this, Amazon has clearly opted out of using PlayStation  virtual keyboard in favor of their own solution, which has its own set of particular quirks.

 It’s just carelessly put together by the lowest bid developer. The other day I was experiencing Internet problems, and it showed a dialogue that said “network error: yes/no“ as my  button options. WTF is that?
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on September 28, 2017, 11:13:40 AM
Well what did you say? Yes or no?
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 28, 2017, 11:22:32 AM
Amazon Prime Music's mobile app design is also fucking terrible.  The actual UI seems ok, but the UX is atrocious
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: chronovore on October 02, 2017, 01:06:50 AM
Well what did you say? Yes or no?

I said "YES," because a network error appeared to have been the order of the day.  :doge Couldn't even just /dismiss/ the dialog. Jesus, what a fecal stain of an app.
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 10, 2017, 03:16:07 PM
Watch OS4 removed browsing Apple music on your watch. :duh
Now you have to sync your headset to your watch to have any control of Apple music from your watch?  :confused

And you only have the option to play or stream music that has been synced to the watch. :duh

Hands down the dumbest feature removal I've ever seen. I mean, I really can't control what's playing on my phone from my $700 watch now?  :ufup
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 10, 2017, 04:27:04 PM
it's because they're launching a watch specific version of Apple Music in the late fall, I think

not excusing it, but it IS gonna come back
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Brehvolution on October 10, 2017, 04:33:30 PM
What I've learned by searching furiously is they separated Apple music app and the Now Playing app. You still have to start music on your phone, then pull up the dock on the watch, and swipe to find the app. The app is not in the dock by default and you have to go into the watch app and add it to the dock.
(https://i.imgur.com/ifDEQEr.gif)
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: Tasty on October 10, 2017, 05:29:39 PM
via Dow Jones earlier today:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLx9p4FX0AIHM-M.jpg:large)

:hyper :hyper :hyper

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Obviously they fucked up, lol. :lol
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Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: chronovore on October 10, 2017, 06:16:26 PM
it's because they're launching a watch specific version of Apple Music in the late fall, I think

not excusing it, but it IS gonna come back

iOS 11 messed SOMETHING up, because my lock-screen no longer knows what's playing. I'll be listening to Audible.app, it shows the last song Music.app played. I'll listen to Podcasts.app, it shows nothing as playing.

I may have mentioned this here, but Apple also created a feature gap recently where Ringtones were removed from iTunes, but then couldn't be recovered anywhere except from the device where they were installed. It just happened that I was trying to reinstall Star Trek communicator stuff that, ages ago, I'd decided to buy but couldn't find it anywhere. Had to go back to an old Mac's backup of my music and physically locate it, then sneakernet it to my current Mac. :maf
Title: Re: Apple Event Thread (9/12/17)
Post by: nudemacusers on October 10, 2017, 09:09:06 PM
Amazon Prime Music's mobile app design is also fucking terrible.  The actual UI seems ok, but the UX is atrocious
Amazons apps are trash across the board.