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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Kurt Russell on November 13, 2017, 03:38:58 AM

Title: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 13, 2017, 03:38:58 AM

I'm highly dubious of the claims made by Stanford, but the implications of what they are suggesting is huge. How do you add even further instability to the Middle East and create yet more mass migration? Take away the oil revenue.
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They'd have to make me a stellar proposal for me to even consider giving up car ownership. If not, they can pry my diesel out of my cold dead hands.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 13, 2017, 03:39:55 AM
Edit: Here's a tinyurl link to the source article. Whenever I post the URL to the actual article, the post gets blanked. Weird.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycwy6ba7
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 13, 2017, 03:42:12 AM
Quote from: Jack Remington on November 13, 2017, 03:41:12 AM
Can you link the study, maybe include some pertinent quotes or something?

I saw some studies by McKinsey and another consulting firm (maybe Navigant) that projected EVs to skyrocket in market share over the next decade, but they weren't this optimistic.

I did actually do that but there's a weird bug where my URL tags to the source completely blanked the whole post. I'm currently copying / pasting piece by piece to figure out how it blanked.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Raist on November 13, 2017, 03:43:19 AM
If the url is https change it to http. Same issue than for some images.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 13, 2017, 03:44:23 AM
Evs could really take off when their price drops in the 2020s, but the infrastructure is still not there.

Id love my next car to be an EV but it seems more likely it will be a plug in hybrid, unless someone starts making Evs that tow
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 13, 2017, 03:44:42 AM
Quote from: Raist on November 13, 2017, 03:43:19 AM
If the url is https change it to http. Same issue than for some images.

It's http. Really fucking weird. Whenever I post the URL, my entire post is blanked.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Raist on November 13, 2017, 03:46:51 AM
Weird. tiny.cc it?

https://tiny.cc/
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Kurt Russell on November 13, 2017, 03:47:21 AM
Quote from: Raist on November 13, 2017, 03:46:51 AM
Weird. tiny.cc it?

See post two. If you have way too much time on your hands, try and post a reply with just the original URL. It blanks the entire post :D
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Raist on November 13, 2017, 03:53:09 AM
Looks like the "8" in the url is causing some shenanigans. Mods pls.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Raist on November 13, 2017, 03:59:58 AM
Obviously thebore.com doesn't buy the "8" years and rejects the url. We skynet now brehs.

Anyway, there is no freaking way it will be that fast. More like 80 years.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Himu on November 13, 2017, 04:21:02 AM
Quote from: Kurt Russell on November 13, 2017, 03:38:58 AM

How do you add even further instability to the Middle East and create yet more mass migration?

Phht. That shit was never gonna last. They really should have looked for alternatives to big oil while they had the chance. Hopefully this allows them the opportunity to make the arab nations have more opportunities. That's my hope once the royal families go way of the dodo.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 13, 2017, 08:08:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b3ttqYDwF0

this is the guy

Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: agrajag on November 13, 2017, 04:16:33 PM
Russia is also highly dependent on fossil fuel
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: benjipwns on November 13, 2017, 04:18:10 PM
Quote from: agrajag on November 13, 2017, 04:16:33 PM
Russia is also highly dependent on fossil fuel
were, then the Clintons sold them an infinite supply of uranium
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: agrajag on November 13, 2017, 04:20:35 PM
#lockherup #peeonhermattress
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 13, 2017, 07:07:47 PM
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Cities will ban human drivers once the data confirms how dangerous they can be behind a wheel
because this is how our society works.

 :lol
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: benjipwns on November 13, 2017, 07:10:31 PM
Don't we have over a century of data about how dangerous drivers can be behind the wheel?
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Let's Cyber on November 13, 2017, 07:19:39 PM
Yes. I'm saying that data won't instigate change on its own. I would love for this prediction to end up being accurate.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: agrajag on November 13, 2017, 07:21:29 PM
Finally I'll be able to jerk off on my commute to work without putting hundreds of other drivers and pedestrians in mortal danger

 :lawd :noah
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: toku on November 13, 2017, 07:30:19 PM
cant happen fast enough
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Corporal on November 14, 2017, 09:37:55 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on November 13, 2017, 07:10:31 PM
Don't we have over a century of data about how dangerous drivers can be behind the wheel?
You need to watch both "Thank you for smoking" and "Idiocracy" to adjust your apparently way too optimistic outlook on the human race as a whole.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: BlueTsunami on November 14, 2017, 09:44:29 AM
Can't wait to brake check all y'alls EV cuckmobiles with my shitbox gas guzzler
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: chronovore on November 14, 2017, 07:56:48 PM
If there's ever a landmark case where "rollin' coal" drivers are convicted of assault, it'd be interesting to see if anyone produces a glorious self-defense plea after getting choked by their smoke.

We already are capable of shifting to renewable sources, we just have too many vested interests in fossil fuel continuance, the disruption to the world economy would be staggering, and we haven't got decent infrastructure. Right now, California is producing so much solar power that we have to pay our neighbors to take it from us; there's a storage and distribution problem, internally.

I know it's mean-hearted thinking, but I'd love to have Russia and the Middle East have to figure out something new to do for their money.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: thisismyusername on November 14, 2017, 08:37:59 PM
I don't buy it. You replace all fossil fuel cars with Electric. Congrats, you move from one pollutant to another. Sure, you may reduce the footprint a little, but it's still going to be there due to Electric having to be generated. I don't buy Dealerships closing so suddenly unless EV's are way cheaper than gas variants.

Self-driving cars I could maybe see, but that seems another 15 years away, to me.

I see a gas crisis happening sooner than EV.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Raist on November 15, 2017, 02:25:16 AM
Quote from: thisismyusername on November 14, 2017, 08:37:59 PM
I don't buy it. You replace all fossil fuel cars with Electric. Congrats, you move from one pollutant to another. Sure, you may reduce the footprint a little, but it's still going to be there due to Electric having to be generated. I don't buy Dealerships closing so suddenly unless EV's are way cheaper than gas variants.

Self-driving cars I could maybe see, but that seems another 15 years away, to me.

I see a gas crisis happening sooner than EV.

Well, you need to keep in mind that assuming you switch all vehicles to electric, you're also phasing out a ton of oil refineries, which are another major source of pollution.

Obviously, bumping up production from renewable sources is a necessary parallel step, but that's also been increasing significantly. And that can always be complemented with a couple nuclear reactors.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: VomKriege on November 15, 2017, 05:03:08 AM
Seems optimistic considering Western Europe seems to be moving towards a goal of phasing out traditional cars for hybrid in 2040 or so...
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: ToxicAdam on November 15, 2017, 05:28:13 AM
Most futurists are too optimistic. They want to see dramatic change in their lifetime and also believe that by promising that a thing is right around the corner, it will open people up to the idea faster (thereby facilitating it). Kurzweil is good example of this.

I don't like it, because it makes me cast doubt on everything else you are trying to say, even if it is so.

Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: benjipwns on November 15, 2017, 12:28:20 PM
Quote from: Corporal on November 14, 2017, 09:37:55 AM
Quote from: benjipwns on November 13, 2017, 07:10:31 PM
Don't we have over a century of data about how dangerous drivers can be behind the wheel?
You need to watch both "Thank you for smoking" and "Idiocracy" to adjust your apparently way too optimistic outlook on the human race as a whole.
Thank You For Smoking > Idiocracy

I've always kinda wondered why one was embraced so hard by the internet intelligentsia and they probably never have heard of the other. Let alone its book. Maybe because it doesn't have a bunch of obvious jokes. TYFS always has felt like one of those films where I'm the only one in the room finding it funny.
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: chronovore on November 16, 2017, 03:37:17 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/15/growing-number-of-global-insurance-firms-divesting-from-fossil-fuels
 :doge
Title: Re: Stanford Study: ALL Fossil Fuel Vehicles Will Vanish in EIGHT Years!
Post by: Raist on November 16, 2017, 05:28:05 AM
Quote from: chronovore on November 16, 2017, 03:37:17 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/15/growing-number-of-global-insurance-firms-divesting-from-fossil-fuels
 :doge

Donald tweet if you're OK.