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Title: in general, is art good or bad
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on April 11, 2018, 12:38:05 AM
morally or quality wise
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on April 11, 2018, 12:42:40 AM
On both fronts, it's great!
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Title: Re: in general, is art good or bad
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 11, 2018, 12:54:21 AM
in general, art is good or bad
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Post by: TVC15 on April 11, 2018, 01:01:28 AM
We’re not doing your book report on The Picture of Dorian Gray for you, asshole. Reqd the goddamned book. It’s a fuckin’ classic.
Title: Re: in general, is art good or bad
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on April 11, 2018, 02:20:01 AM
I've been struggling with this lately. Does being creative qualify you as an artist?  Is art inherently exploitative?
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Post by: seagrams hotsauce on April 11, 2018, 02:39:47 AM
kind of both i guess? i don't really expect mad srs answers from folks here but i'm genuinely interested in the answers ppl could provide if they're so inclined
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Post by: seagrams hotsauce on April 11, 2018, 03:04:43 AM
the artist themselves, given how patronage has worked for centuries
Title: Re: in general, is art good or bad
Post by: TVC15 on April 11, 2018, 03:11:01 AM
You’ve clearly never listened to Jandek.
Title: Re: in general, is art good or bad
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on April 11, 2018, 03:32:25 AM
jandek? idkh do you mean zombie
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Post by: Momo on April 11, 2018, 04:19:21 AM
An interesting variation of this question is "Do people produce morally good art anymore?"
Does the intent of the artist matter if the value and questions it poses is derived by the viewer?
Title: Re: in general, is art good or bad
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on April 11, 2018, 04:25:48 AM
"Art as an endeavor exists independently of the monetary pursuit."

lololololiberterianism
Title: Re: in general, is art good or bad
Post by: TVC15 on April 11, 2018, 04:27:02 AM
Jesus, all of you distinguished mentally-challenged fellows need to do a book report on The Picture of Dorian Gray.
Title: Re: in general, is art good or bad
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on April 11, 2018, 04:33:00 AM
Shut up nerd. Sorry shosta that was an easy shot, it's just with these soundcloud kids and all I wonder if people are making art to actually express themselves or for a sponsorship sometimes
Title: Re: in general, is art good or bad
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2018, 04:39:57 AM
Shut up nerd. Sorry shosta that was an easy shot, it's just with these soundcloud kids and all I wonder if people are making art to actually express themselves or for a sponsorship sometimes
I mean there's for sure people that take an artistic medium and produce artifacts thereof for the express purpose of monetization, how you feel about said endeavours probably has more to do with it than the artist's intent though, as you can derive meaning from even Rebecca Black crap. Conversely there's a ton of artistry in Prince's music but he essentially did it for the $$.  :idont


If we ever get to a Star Trek world and people dont need money (and arent huge attention whores) and we still get people doing the future version of crappy soundcloud art we'll probably have a lot more to work with. That being said I wanna be dead before I see a naked Ferengi. 
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Post by: Jerry on April 11, 2018, 04:48:26 AM
Art is only as good as the people who appreciate it
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Post by: VomKriege on April 11, 2018, 06:05:29 AM
Art is the only thing worth a damn in this world. Even it is mostly trash.
Title: Re: in general, is art good or bad
Post by: Momo on April 11, 2018, 07:45:18 AM
Art is the only thing worth a damn in this world. Even it is mostly trash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6aPgA5549g
Title: Re: in general, is art good or bad
Post by: mormapope on April 11, 2018, 09:20:56 AM
Learning about yourself and what's around you is entertaining for some. Philosophy can be entertaining. Music is entertaining. The same can be said about any piece of art.

To me, there isn't a objective difference between a cartoon and a painting from 1455. The end result is entertainment regardless. The cultural and historical ties that painting has are real, but thinking about all that and interpreting that painting is still entertainment.

Since art as a concept doesn't really differentiate from being a form of entertaiment, art is stinky poopoo trash.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on April 11, 2018, 09:31:59 AM
Jesus, all of you distinguished mentally-challenged fellows need to do a book report on The Picture of Dorian Gray.

More like the Picture of Dorian Gay.
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Post by: ToxicAdam on April 11, 2018, 09:40:18 AM
We are here to create.

Art is just an aspect of that impulse.

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Post by: hampster on April 11, 2018, 09:46:18 AM
What kind of art ???
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Post by: nudemacusers on April 11, 2018, 09:53:30 AM
My life is my art
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Post by: agrajag on April 11, 2018, 10:51:45 AM
art is nothing but a miserable pile of secrets
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 11, 2018, 11:48:14 AM
Jesus, all of you distinguished mentally-challenged fellows need to do a book report on The Picture of Dorian Gray.

I liked the sequel. 50 Shades of Gray.

Why's the dude even need that many sunglasses. Probably couldn't stand looking at his picture anymore. It's a social commentary on selfie-culture. This guy is Wilde!