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Title: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 13, 2018, 10:17:39 AM
 :doge
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 13, 2018, 10:21:05 AM
A part of a barrier or wall you put up to stop uncontrolled mass immigration of gamers.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Kara on July 13, 2018, 10:21:47 AM
You mean Baldur's Gate? It's one of those ancient computer RPGs... just play Pillars of Eternity or something.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Atramental on July 13, 2018, 10:24:42 AM
Shitlords vs Soyboys
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 13, 2018, 10:27:09 AM
There's some pretty decent content in the archived thread actually: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=42334.0

Like this:
Quote from: Joe Molotov
If you say say Not Your Shield like an angry black woman, it sounds like Nacho Shield, which sounds like something that would be p. cool imo.

OR THIS:
(http://i.imgur.com/TjJb4k4.jpg)

i had totally forgot how part of their thing was that they were going to read and fact check like 7000 social studies papers or something
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: nachobro on July 13, 2018, 10:27:26 AM
:yeshrug
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: zomgee on July 13, 2018, 10:33:49 AM
#NOTYOURSHEILD

 :teehee
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Kara on July 13, 2018, 10:35:36 AM
OR THIS:
(http://i.imgur.com/TjJb4k4.jpg)

This is an old IWW poster. :lol
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 13, 2018, 10:51:48 AM
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DiGRA is the poisoned spring from whence all of this evil flows. It needs further investigation. Everyone should investigate them further.

Sargon of Akkad11 hours ago
 
We are the fucking GAMERS.

We. Play. To. WIN.

#GamerGate #NotYourShield 
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Homer Ruglia Beoulve
‏@ramzaruglia
@FoxAndAHalf It's going to be more amazing if we got this running, they would fear us even in their sleep. No rest for the wicked.

Mathias Nordvall ‏@MathiasNordvall  2h2 hours ago
An academic's fear is to publish but not be read. Here comes #OperationDiggingDiGRA to read all their work. That's some Good Guy Greg!
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What else can we do better, with tactics?
If you see a Twitlonger post addressing a corporate entity / PR firm / advertising firm, BOOST IT. It costs us NOTHING. Do not respond to any troll posts / bait tagged on the twitlonger.

This makes us DOMINATE TWITTER for as long as we want. Our enemies will now have to fight MULTIPLE fronts, while we put exponential pressure both on emails and on twitter itself.

This EXHAUSTS the trolls, the shills, Literally Red, Literally Blue, and Literally Who.

Today we start invading Castle Vox
Vox has already set the precedent, thanks to Leigh Alexander. By taking over Castle Vox, we knock out Polygon and The Verge at the same time.

STAY TUNED FOR TARGETS, BE HERE 6PM EST USA, we lay SIEGE to Castle Vox.

Why should we take Castle Vox?
Right now, Vox Media has been implicated with numerous skirmishes with GamerGate, all of these should be brought to light to every PR Agency and every advertiser we can find that deals with Gamers.
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Mission
Calmly inform @CNN, heck even Wolf Blitzer if you want, of what’s really happening in #GamerGate. Be factual. Be polite. Be not crazy uncle RogueStar. Inform them of anything #GamerGate that you know, and send them FACTS AND CONDENSED INFO.

Your email MUST be a public facing write up. Do NOT include your personal info. If you are willing to come out publicly, be sure you are secure on emails, sites, paypals, etc.
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THIRD : You must treat DiGRA website as ENEMY TERRITORY. We have been doxxed before because of IPs getting leaked, and rogue admins helping SJWs. You can safely download the entire DiGRA archive here : https://mega.co.nz/#!oBtSXaiJ!B2HCzRjYcwlhRmk-Nl7yUZ7yW32_u4Skn4gi8MIdTEI
If you have an academic position, tenure, are part of a research group, AND have an interest in contributing NEW PAPERS that go against the current Feminist Inquisition, please contact @RogueStarGamez IMMEDIATELY.


We will read them, every fscking DiGRA paper. Fact checking, fact finding mission.

We will read all the things.

http://www.digra.org/digital-library/ <- There are over 700 articles
in DESPERATE NEED OF PEER REVIEW.

We will give it to them
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Load Out

This is a SUPER LONG operation. If you are a COLLEGE STUDENT, request your school/professors/TAs for a way to get COLLEGE CREDIT for reading DiGRA materials.


DIGRA PAPERS ONLINE, DO NOT DOWNLOAD UNLESS YOU HAVE GOOD SECURITY.
http://www.digra.org/wp-content/uploads/digital-library/11340.02077.pdf
http://www.digra.org/wp-content/uploads/digital-library/05087.10012.pdf
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 13, 2018, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: Kara
I really really really really really really love the GAMERGATE propaganda that gets retweeted onto my timeline.

https://twitter.com/Max_x_Milia/status/518866992640819201
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Coax on July 13, 2018, 10:56:17 AM
I'll tell you what it's not: a site with amazing gaming discounts, like Postal 3 at 80% off—now a mind-melting $2.40.

Good or Insane? The choice is yours.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Brehvolution on July 13, 2018, 11:00:12 AM
A gaggle of mouthbreathers.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: BisMarckie on July 13, 2018, 11:00:14 AM
I feel like I have a pretty good idea now:

After killing Franz Ferdinand of Austria, Serbia hired Jeff Gerstmann to be a double agent and destroy gaming journalism from within  Jeff then got fired on purpose to drum up support against the media and especially
female developers. The Black Hand (Jeff's Serbian code name btw.)  fanned the flames to decide the US Election against Hillary Clinton to weaken US foreign policy. With that weakened foreign policy and a loss of power projection the US don't have the means to stop Serbia from creating Greater Serbia.

(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6428ea4b99db4ae2bc9304852f7fd494)

Thank you benji and kara for opening my eyes.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: paprikastaude on July 13, 2018, 11:03:03 AM
A boogeyman for out-of-touch nerds who desperately need an enemy to explain their own failure as human beings.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Kara on July 13, 2018, 11:05:24 AM
Thank you benji and kara for opening my eyes.

ICYMI: Tupac is alive in (the internationally defined borders of) Serbia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkqTM4K68ME
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: paprikastaude on July 13, 2018, 11:09:47 AM
What resetera thinks GamerGate is: The platform that elected Donald Trump.

What GamerGate thinks GamerGate is: Ethics in games journalism.

What GamerGate actually is: A bunch of trolls got angry that some beta dude got cucked by a thot who worked on some text game so they started harassing random female developers for a few weeks. People whose entire world view is based on videogame forums see this as the modern day holocaust and use it as an excuse to be dogmatic online and buy Aloy funko pops to show solidarity.

What normal think GamerGate is: What? Fuck off nerds, I don't care.

Please educate yourself, gamergate made it into the news more often than not - [insert link to lowkey online article about Anita which even its author didn't care about]
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on July 13, 2018, 12:09:41 PM
OR THIS:
(http://i.imgur.com/TjJb4k4.jpg)

This is an old IWW poster. :lol
The gamergate struggle has been ongoing since WWI. :esports
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 13, 2018, 12:20:56 PM
I don't know and don't care.
:rejoice

non-arpg gaming :piss2
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 13, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
Did they ever manage to topple Castle Vox? Where they able to DOMINATE TWITTER for as long as they wanted? We need a followup.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 13, 2018, 12:52:58 PM
It was when Rare was making Conker Live and Reloaded and they wanted to put in a gate named Bill. He would complain about the broken windows on the barn.

Microsoft made them take it out.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: VomKriege on July 13, 2018, 01:16:14 PM
It's about gaming ethics.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 13, 2018, 01:59:19 PM
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(https://i.imgur.com/uqFd4k1.jpg)
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Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: bork on July 13, 2018, 02:19:57 PM
I never understood why there was so much backlash over this movie. 

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTkzMDU0NTg3MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzU1MjU1Mg@@._V1_UY1200_CR90,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg)

But then, I never saw it so what do I know?  Never really cared about it and-

(https://cellurizon.de/wp-content/image/GAMER-Pic4.jpg)

BRB watching this
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: D3RANG3D on July 13, 2018, 02:22:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcxHiOQUVH4
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: bork on July 13, 2018, 02:27:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcxHiOQUVH4

:rofl
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: bork on July 13, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV5TLkfYHuI
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: paprikastaude on July 13, 2018, 02:30:46 PM
You could say they are like, videogaming aligators

(http://replygif.net/i/380.gif)
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: bork on July 13, 2018, 02:32:53 PM
How did I miss this SVU stuff?  :lol :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2klLy8r8Ro
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Kara on July 13, 2018, 03:09:07 PM
Gamer is a great movie. The end in particular.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Trent Dole on July 13, 2018, 03:19:06 PM
What resetera thinks GamerGate is: The platform that elected Donald Drumpf.

What GamerGate thinks GamerGate is: Ethics in games journalism.

What GamerGate actually is: A bunch of trolls got angry that some beta dude got cucked by a thot who worked on some text game so they started harassing random female developers for a few weeks. People whose entire world view is based on videogame forums see this as the modern day holocaust and use it as an excuse to be dogmatic online and buy Aloy funko pops to show solidarity.

What normal think GamerGate is: What? Fuck off nerds, I don't care.

Please educate yourself, gamergate made it into the news more often than not - [insert link to lowkey online article about Anita which even its author didn't care about]
Anita was like, on the Colbert Report one time. Oh and she testified at Congress or some shit. Also text game thot didn't just make some doofy free indie thing, she worked on Jazzpunk too, which without having even played it I think makes her infinitely cooler than any of the angry doofs swatting random gamer ladies. :doge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCWT7y7kMT0
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: tiesto on July 13, 2018, 03:53:53 PM
You could say they are like, videogaming aligators

(http://replygif.net/i/380.gif)

My favorite gamer gator:

(http://d1nr5wevwcuzuv.cloudfront.net/product_photos/34082661/FM_20Towns_20Marty_20logo_large.jpg)
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: toku on July 13, 2018, 06:19:36 PM
conscious life is a false flag
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on July 13, 2018, 06:39:35 PM
Just asking questions OP? You're not fooling anyone.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 13, 2018, 07:04:18 PM
Just asking questions OP? You're not fooling anyone.

The correct verbiage is "you ain't slick."
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Nintex on July 13, 2018, 07:23:33 PM
GamerGate as an organized entity doesn't even exist anymore.

A portion of the original GamerGaters probably 'grew up' the others OD'd or killed themselves.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 14, 2018, 01:24:09 AM
I always enjoyed our own Mandark's definition of "gamergate: a movement that exists to defend the reputation of gamergate."
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: MMaRsu on July 14, 2018, 07:12:31 AM
I seriously have no fucking clue what gamersgate is, how one becomes a gamergater or what one needs to do to be one of the aforementioned gamergators.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 14, 2018, 09:02:14 AM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic-world-fangame/images/a/a8/NibVector.png/revision/latest?cb=20150203195105)
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2018, 09:19:04 AM
Did you bring up GG cause of this, Rumbler?

https://theoutline.com/post/5383/gamergate-ringleader-experiences-moral-crisis-four-years-late?utm_source=TW&zr=ivh2v3u2&zd=1&zi=6o255bxt

Better late than never, I guess.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: tiesto on July 14, 2018, 10:24:23 AM
(https://i1.wp.com/www.gameboyworks.com/wp-content/uploads/1989/10/revenge-of-the-gator-box-pinbin.jpg?w=750&ssl=1)
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 11:10:53 AM
How did I miss this SVU stuff?  :lol :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2klLy8r8Ro

"I read on Kotaku that it's better than Civ V with the Brave New World expansion pack" - Ice-T
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Nintex on July 14, 2018, 11:52:07 AM
Did you bring up GG cause of this, Rumbler?

https://theoutline.com/post/5383/gamergate-ringleader-experiences-moral-crisis-four-years-late?utm_source=TW&zr=ivh2v3u2&zd=1&zi=6o255bxt

Better late than never, I guess.
Oh jesus, the Outline.

That is such a trashpile. I tried to explain to the founder how shitty his new site was but he didn't understand any of my points.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 11:57:33 AM
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the subreddit is commonly graced by posts defending Jordan Peterson — a man known for recruiting vulnerable young men into the alt-right using tactics that target people with depression
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 12:13:17 PM
I'm going to choose to believe that Ice-T rewrote all his own dialogue on the set to be more gamer-canon accurate. "No, no, no, you guys are making this sound fuckin stupid."
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 14, 2018, 12:18:43 PM
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the subreddit is commonly graced by posts defending Jordan Peterson — a man known for recruiting vulnerable young men into the alt-right using tactics that target people with depression

Checks out.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2018, 05:39:34 PM
What resetera thinks GamerGate is: The platform that elected Donald Trump.

I have no actual data on this, but it seems that ever since GG became a thing, I've been seeing a lot more youtube gaming channels with right-wing bents. Certainly moreso than I ever personally noticed prior to 2013.

Maybe I'm giving too much credit to the gaming community, but it appeared that before GG, it was overwhelmingly progressive (and again, I'm fully willing to admit that I might be totally offbase here), and GG helped either create or transition a new generation of young people to conservatism.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 05:47:55 PM
I only watch a few gaming YouTubers so I have no idea about "the community" or whatever but I'd suggest that just the gradual democratization of YouTube and the internet may play an unseen role in demographic changes.

Think of it like Facebook, I remember they published stats once when it was limited still to school users and like 80% of the users listed their politics as liberal/left. Then they invited the whole world in and based on my reading Facebook comments under news articles now 40% of the user base are traditional conservatives and another 40% are hardcore racist conservatives. (The remainder are false flag bots.)
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: curly on July 14, 2018, 06:07:19 PM
there's an animegate now because crunchyroll hosted a panel about gays in anime at a con :doge
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2018, 06:15:06 PM
They also tried to do a Comicsgate thing a while back, but never took off (thankfully).
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: curly on July 14, 2018, 06:23:06 PM
Did you bring up GG cause of this, Rumbler?

https://theoutline.com/post/5383/gamergate-ringleader-experiences-moral-crisis-four-years-late?utm_source=TW&zr=ivh2v3u2&zd=1&zi=6o255bxt

Better late than never, I guess.
Oh jesus, the Outline.

That is such a trashpile. I tried to explain to the founder how shitty his new site was but he didn't understand any of my points.

:dunno
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2018, 06:30:32 PM
Not that any of it is scientific but my impression is that GamerGate was largely build upon some longstanding vague & diffuse sentiments found in gaming communities (and most nerd fandoms) :
- The specialized press being held for a total joke, incompetent and bought for.
- Nostalgy for the way things used to be better (doubly so for videogames where thirty something lived through what is still the early age of the medium and its mutations, including some hefty corporate consolidation from a sea of pioneering studios to a dozen of massive publishers).
- A defensive kneejerk at the audience growing wider and wider and a sense of displacement, hijacking and betrayal (against "fake" gamers, "casual" and "non" games).
- Distrust towards perceived established elites who treated the medium with contempt and scorn but now are coopting it.

Which all mostly stem from the medium undergoing rapid growth.

"GamerGate" gave those reactionary feelings a political spine by folding it into a more defined narrative : in short, that the hobby has been commodified by neoliberals and soulless international capitalists. Yes they're dumbing it down to make it more marketable and profitable. They're compromising it. They want to open it to wider markets and thus court new audiences including normies and women. They're the elites and they're cynically coopting it for profit. And the press is of course bought for and on the ride.

Which to be fair is appealing to popular sentiments, including on the left : it's not too far removed from anxieties about job shipped overseas, the death of mom and pop stores or gentrification. From there it is not to hard to draw parallels with wider societal trends or inject talking points about identity politics, political correctness and al.

That's my 2 cents anyway.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: curly on July 14, 2018, 06:43:48 PM
I remember that in the years preceding GamerGate there was a spate of criticism of the gaming press for being essentially PR outlets for gaming companies. There was the Doritos Pope thing, the controversy over reviewers accepting perks from developers, even the anger about Mass Effect 3 getting universally positive reviews. Some outlets changed the way they did reviews because of it.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 06:52:31 PM
Someone in the archived thread likened it to Occupy, and there's some similarities in that it was a bunch of disparate upset groups with different but somewhat linked interests unifying around something mostly non-specific, that then had short-term momentum simply from the formation of the movement, then gradually fell apart or sects were co-opted by whoever had whatever interest or people remembered they could harass women without needing a "valid reason" or whatever until it became as recursively himself and himself alone described it, "a movement that exists to defend the reputation of itself." Occupy couldn't get to that status because they prioritized the establishment of bureaucratic process over concentrated action for the most part.

Occupy still exists I believe, even formally, and last I knew was doing actual charity work and such because it had shed all the hop-ons and infiltrators and hijackers. Since GamerGate "existed" purely on the internet there weren't even real world relationships to hold it together. Except in the one-drop rule useful way for people like on ERA.

If there's a connection to the alt-right, I think it's that just as GamerGate was running out of steam, the various alt-right trends started and targeted a lot of the same enemies. So it probably had the appeal of shifting from defending "gaming" to saving "Western society" as a whole from social studies worriers. Unlike GamerGate, it's held together better because of "the leaders" shared interests in maintaining and squeezing it for profit and other personal gains.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: VomKriege on July 14, 2018, 06:58:06 PM
I remember that in the years preceding GamerGate there was a spate of criticism of the gaming press for being essentially PR outlets for gaming companies. There was the Doritos Pope thing, the controversy over reviewers accepting perks from developers, even the anger about Mass Effect 3 getting universally positive reviews. Some outlets changed the way they did reviews because of it.

Yeah and honestly as far back as I can remember it's always been the sentiment even in the mid to late nineties. Not unfounded either, it was honestly a bit painful to revisit the gaming mags of your youth : basically a bunch of very young adults lucking out at making a job out of playing games, with the quality of writing and lack of self awareness you would expect, obviously dependent on access, and largely there to relay and hype upcoming and current releases. It doesn't help that a PR outlet like Nintendo Power was largely indistinguishable from "normal" ones. The PlayStation Era was also rife with platform exclusive titles who continued said ambiguity.

All (specialized) press tend to be like this but as I said the VG one had especially poor standards (even just graphically, it was all super tacky, edgy and pandering to nineties youth sensibilities).
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 07:01:20 PM
For a PR outlet, Nintendo Power until the N64 era or so was surprisingly harsh and overly clinical in their reviews. Once you acquired a PhD in mathematics and could decipher their scoring system.

The rest of the magazine was arguably less hype-driven than the newsstand magazines too. The benefits of not having to really sell your magazine I suppose.

Game Informer acquired some of this as their competitors all shriveled up, and they were being given away at every GameStop. Like it had passed through the hype-focused singularity and having a subscriber base larger than any magazine not owned by the AARP allowed it to trash the same games it gave 12 pages of exclusive reveal to eight months prior.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 07:07:37 PM
Though before that, their Enter The Matrix shilling was one of my favorite gaming magazine events. Especially when they were trying to secretly tell you in the review that it was garbage and then still give it the probably promised 8.5 minimum score.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2018, 07:34:38 PM
For a PR outlet, Nintendo Power until the N64 era or so was surprisingly harsh and overly clinical in their reviews. Once you acquired a PhD in mathematics and could decipher their scoring system.


Heh. I always thought it was interesting how they were one of the few major outlets that didn't give a perfect score to Ocarina of Time.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
They instead opted to give it a lowly 9.5. :japancry
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Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 08:03:07 PM
This was their scoring chart in the SNES era:
(https://i.imgur.com/H6k5ZoK.jpg)
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2018, 08:46:09 PM
does anybody even know 80% of the games listed on there
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 08:57:40 PM
well obv yea... wait, is this like when my roommates ended trivial pursuit weekends unless i was gone or "willingly" not playing?

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the history, sports and geography sections being essentially uncontested combined with the fact that the entertainment and science sections were no worse than even plays meant it was always games for second place... especially if my teammates could handle arts and help run either entertainment or science too

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/unreliable narration
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Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Kara on July 14, 2018, 08:59:43 PM
does anybody even know 80% of the games listed on there

Yup. :'(
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 09:05:29 PM
to be fair you can pad your stats a little with the NES/GB games
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: BisMarckie on July 14, 2018, 09:05:58 PM
Sunset Riders is a GOAT videogame.

Only the arcade version though :snob

edit: Bonk's adventure got a NES release? Blasphemy. PC-Engine or bust. :bolo
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Mandark on July 14, 2018, 09:09:53 PM
Sunset Riders is a slightly homoerotic side-scrolling arcade shooter. I beat the SNES version on an emulator using a keyboard when I was 18 cause God knows why.
Total Carnage is a Smash TV-alike.
Clay Fighter is a claymation fighting game with an angry snowman.
Nobunaga's Ambition is a strategy game set in feudal Japan (I feel like Koei either ripped off Shingen the Ruler or they hired the designer).
Bonk's Adventure is a side-scroller with a baby caveman. It was the Turbografx 16 flagship game or at least it was the one they always had at the kiosk at Toys R Us.
World Heroes was a knockoff of Capcom/SNK Goofy Ethnic Stereotype fighting games.
Metal Combat was one of those games you played with the goofy lightgun bazooka. Had a special box at Blockbuster cause I think you could rent the lightgun along with it.


Don't recognize a few of those, but most of the rest are obvious licensed IP.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Kara on July 14, 2018, 09:10:47 PM
Sunset Riders is a GOAT videogame.

When I die I want my tombstone to say, "Bury me with my money."
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Mandark on July 14, 2018, 09:24:08 PM
I think Total Carnage actually was the sequel to Smash TV or at least was made with most of the same people, which is why it's almost exactly the same gameplay wise.

I had typed "Smash TV ripoff" and then changed it cause I wasn't sure about this, and I strongly believe in Ethics in Videogame Posting.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 09:25:57 PM
edit: Bonk's adventure got a NES release? Blasphemy. PC-Engine or bust. :bolo
either this is a totally different game with a Bonk sprite put over top (i may be thinking of one of the Game Boy games) or a port of the original, this would be well after the Turbografx died off in the US in either case

Total Carnage is a Smash TV-alike.
Nobunaga's Ambition is a strategy game set in feudal Japan (I feel like Koei either ripped off Shingen the Ruler or they hired the designer).
World Heroes was a knockoff of Capcom/SNK Goofy Ethnic Stereotype fighting games.
Total Carnage is the Smash TV sequel. World Heroes is a SNK game, SNK made a lot of those knock-offs themselves. IIRC, WH is the first 1-on-1 fighter with danger zones, like you knock a dude into the wall and he gets electrocuted, etc.

KOEI did a number of strategy series best known for Romance of the Three Kingdoms, which included a number of "re-skinned" ones, most weirdly Liberty or Death set in the American Revolution. Nobunaga's is either a version of that for Japan or a "late" port of the PC original which is like from 1984 or something. The crazy thing is that for all those KOEI games that came out here, they had like four versions in Japan, and it was seemingly random which ones they'd port. So it might even be one of those later sequels just retitled.

Total Carnage, probably because it had a completely different name than the successful Smash TV, epically bombed. So the team taking inspiration from Mortal Kombat's digitized graphics tried a simpler concept for their next game: NBA Jam.

still impressed by seeing that accurate list in a rare cowardly Mandark game post
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Kara on July 14, 2018, 09:31:42 PM
I'm extremely jealous of all these people who don't know what Steel Talons was. :'(
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 09:31:58 PM
NHL Stanley Cup is a Mode 7 "behind the player" view like NCAA Basketball for the SNES

Capcom's Aladdin has become semi-internet-famous for its nearly impossible magic carpet stage that we could all seemingly beat as kids but nobody can beat it today, similar to stuff like Battletoads
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: BisMarckie on July 14, 2018, 09:34:05 PM

either this is a totally different game with a Bonk sprite put over top (i may be thinking of one of the Game Boy games) or a port of the original, this would be well after the Turbografx died off in the US in either case



After briefly watching longplay videos side by side (WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE :stahp) it doesn't seem to be a straight port the levels are thematically similar but their structure seems different.
Wikipedia and the Giant Bomb wiki just say 'ported to NES'. :thinking


edit: Wasn't there a 'huge' debate over which Aladdin version was better? Genesis or SNES? IIRC they were pretty different games.

Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 09:37:18 PM
Hudson Soft pulled the sprite swap and wound up with the Adventure Island series, it was supposed to be a Wonder Boy port. Guess I assumed they probably did it again with Bonk.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 09:41:17 PM
Yeah, the Genesis Aladdin was from Dave Perry, and much of the team went to form Shiny and do Earthworm Jim next. It also used actual animation cells from the film to create its sprites.

The other notable difference is that you have a sword to kill enemies, cause SEGA IS COOLER AMIRITE. In Capcom's game you throw apples to dizzy them then jump on their heads or whatever.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 09:42:16 PM
Who the fuck do you know that beat Battletoads as a kid?
I admit I did not see these feats in person. Nor was I aware of the need for pulling receipts back then.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 09:45:44 PM
Though I beat DKC and 100%'d it when younger, a few years ago I couldn't get past those fucking squirrels in the rolling logs and gave up. Probably the 360 pad's fault tho and not my skills. :shh

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I miss Oscar. :'(
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Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: BisMarckie on July 14, 2018, 09:46:24 PM

Who the fuck do you know that beat Battletoads as a kid?

Yeah, if someone back then said that they beat Battletoads I knew they were full of shit.
My bullshit claim was that I beat Castlevania III, which I never did until a few years ago. :ego
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2018, 09:48:13 PM
None of you were supposed to answer my previous question.  :doge
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Kara on July 14, 2018, 09:48:32 PM
The other notable difference is that you have a sword to kill enemies, cause SEGA IS COOLER AMIRITE.

Not living under Nintendo's censorial regime. :aah

Have fun playing Mortal Kombat with sweat. :sabu
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Mandark on July 14, 2018, 09:48:58 PM
I bet benji had friends who "beat" the NES TMNT game too.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 09:49:10 PM
Next you'll tell me people didn't pull off real gaming feats like beating Silver Surfer for the NES either.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 14, 2018, 09:50:04 PM
That being said, ignoring the licensed games, the only SNES games I recognized on that list were Clayfighter and Sunset Riders.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Kara on July 14, 2018, 09:50:17 PM
I bet benji had friends who "beat" the NES TMNT game too.

THAT FUCKING DAM :maf
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 09:51:16 PM
I bet benji had friends who "beat" the NES TMNT game too.
Everybody knows you had to use the secret trick to get past the dam and recover the lost Turtles.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: BisMarckie on July 14, 2018, 09:52:45 PM
Btw. Watching GB play Contra: Hard Corps brought up some painful memories. I only rented it and couldn't beat it before I had to return it. :goty2
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 09:54:55 PM
It's way harder than III on the SNES, probably the only reason III is so beatable is because it's like six stages long and those Mode 7 ones are non-threats if you have the right weapons.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Kara on July 14, 2018, 09:56:29 PM
I don't remember if Bloodlines was harder than Super Castlevania but I do remember it being hard too. Konami really let us eat on Genesis.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: BisMarckie on July 14, 2018, 09:57:34 PM
I don't remember if Bloodlines was harder than Super Castlevania but I do remember it being hard too.

Bloodlines is way harder than Super. It had limited continues and some bullshit stages. Super Castlevania is by far the easiest of the Classicvanias.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 09:58:38 PM
Dynamite Headdy is one hell of a monster, especially compared to Gunstar Heroes. Had to give up on it.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Propagandhim on July 14, 2018, 09:59:03 PM
If Sunset Riders is "slightly homoerotic" then consider me the greediest little cock whore on the planet because that game owns
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: BisMarckie on July 14, 2018, 10:01:51 PM
SMB is probably the other beatable game that I played that I never even attempted to finish.

There was little motivation when I could just as easily play 3 or SMW.

Yeah going back, SMB is not great. The jumps feel really off. I beat it and had to really bang my head against the wall because I didn't know the "cheat" that kept you from having to start all over again.  :doge
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 14, 2018, 10:05:28 PM
speaking of hard games, also old EGMs that upset PHIL...there's a period around when the Dreamcast is first rumored and then comes out, where like at least one review an issue talks about breaking controllers "you'll need an extra controller for this one after you throw your first at the wall", "if you can stand breaking controllers, you might enjoy this game" and the reviewer blurbs mention half the team busting controllers including arcade sticks...once i noticed it, it started to be something i couldn't skip over

it's like Yoshichan was working for them
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 15, 2018, 12:05:30 AM
SMB is probably the other beatable game that I played that I never even attempted to finish.

There was little motivation when I could just as easily play 3 or SMW.

SMB is probably the other beatable game that I played that I never even attempted to finish.

There was little motivation when I could just as easily play 3 or SMW.

Yeah going back, SMB is not great. The jumps feel really off. I beat it and had to really bang my head against the wall because I didn't know the "cheat" that kept you from having to start all over again.  :doge

Yeah, I can't ever go back to SMB. Even as a kid, I liked it well enough, but was never really impressed and got bored with it pretty quickly. I actually beat the game for the first time earlier this year, interestingly enough.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: paprikastaude on July 15, 2018, 07:36:49 AM
The only thing that makes SMB hard is the hammer bros, which are complete trash. It doesn't take that long to get used to the controls and then it's pretty easy until like world 7. Alternatively, the GBC version is more fun.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: tiesto on July 15, 2018, 12:40:39 PM
does anybody even know 80% of the games listed on there

I do... Skyblazer and Sunsetriders are the best on the list imo.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on July 15, 2018, 01:30:45 PM
Sunset Riders is a GOAT videogame.

When I die I want my tombstone to say, "Bury me with my money."

On some other forums I used to have a Cormano avatar. The best character.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 15, 2018, 03:14:56 PM
I bet benji had friends who "beat" the NES TMNT game too.

THAT FUCKING DAM :maf

No need to worry about the dam if you were playing the DOS version that was literally unbeatable.

https://kotaku.com/that-time-a-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtle-game-was-litera-1778291066

(https://i.imgur.com/OGZfWxL.png)

Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 15, 2018, 04:04:00 PM
The only thing that makes SMB hard is the hammer bros, which are complete trash. It doesn't take that long to get used to the controls and then it's pretty easy until like world 7. Alternatively, the GBC version is more fun.

For me, the issue with SMB wasn't its difficulty, but rather it's extremely a pretty basic, primitive, and repetitive platformer, and I would just get bored of it by like the fourth world or so. It's really amazing when you see the jump from SMB to SMB3 (hell, even SMB2).
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: paprikastaude on July 15, 2018, 07:20:41 PM
I didn't care to beat 3 because of no saves and wasn't interested in buying digital versions or getting the ROM later on. Finished it finally on NES Mini, so good. :lawd
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 15, 2018, 07:40:47 PM
SBM1 and SMB2 didn't have saves either, tho.  :doge
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 16, 2018, 02:29:06 PM
If you really think about it, SMB2 doesn't exist at all
um, it's the game of the year baybeeeee
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Bulleta©™® on July 17, 2018, 05:57:07 AM
I still don't know what this is. That lady is a whore though. So I'm against males or females fucking ppl to gain status. I don't know if that makes me pro or anti gamergate.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: paprikastaude on July 17, 2018, 09:08:22 AM
I still don't know what this is. That lady is a whore though. So I'm against males or females fucking ppl to gain status. I don't know if that makes me pro or anti gamergate.

Bothsideism, you're worse than Trump.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on July 17, 2018, 11:07:04 AM
Hey, I beat that TMNT NES game. Only once after hundreds of tries. But I did do it. ....it sucked.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 22, 2018, 08:17:54 PM
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/lane-davis-ralph-retort-seattle4truth-alt-right

Not an article about GG per se, but i did find this nugget interesting:

Quote
"“Before Gamergate I was a pretty standard liberal or even a socialist,” Ralph told me. “I’d write hit pieces on right-wing figures. It was a hobby. But when Gamergate broke out and I got an audience that happened to be more reactionary, I thought, It’s my job to do propaganda for Gamergate. The ethics in video game journalism stuff, I didn’t care about that.”"

From one of the largest GG enablers.  :thinking
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: naff on July 22, 2018, 08:46:53 PM
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/lane-davis-ralph-retort-seattle4truth-alt-right

Not an article about GG per se, but i did find this nugget interesting:

Quote
"“Before Gamergate I was a pretty standard liberal or even a socialist,” Ralph told me. “I’d write hit pieces on right-wing figures. It was a hobby. But when Gamergate broke out and I got an audience that happened to be more reactionary, I thought, It’s my job to do propaganda for Gamergate. The ethics in video game journalism stuff, I didn’t care about that.”"

From one of the largest GG enablers.  :thinking

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In his late teens and early twenties, Lane told people, he dabbled in Islam, in Marxism, in street gangs, in party drugs, in Occupy, in clothing design.

I wonder if he also enjoyed walks in the park :thinking
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 22, 2018, 08:54:42 PM
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he dabbled in Islam, in Marxism, in street gangs, in party drugs, in Occupy, in clothing design.
one of these things is not like the other

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Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 22, 2018, 08:55:37 PM
If you like dabbling in Islam, and you're in a street gang. If you're not into Capitalism, if you have half a gram.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: thisismyusername on July 22, 2018, 09:05:15 PM
I wonder if he also enjoyed walks in the park :thinking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzZNWqUJuA4
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: benjipwns on July 29, 2018, 01:07:38 AM
found this in an old thread :lol
(http://i.imgur.com/pfKvJ1p.png)
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: chronovore on July 29, 2018, 03:43:46 AM
Gamergate is created from misogyny and whiny manbaby entitlement.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on July 29, 2018, 10:35:38 PM
I find it interesting how the focus of GG's ire at the whole Five Guys thing was directed mainly at the female game developer but hardly any abuse was given to the journalist she was sleeping with. :thinking
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on October 03, 2018, 06:13:10 AM
https://twitter.com/LasagnaGarden/status/1046846530374840321

well then  :doge
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: bork on October 03, 2018, 07:52:46 AM
https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/1047242321060921344

:gamergate
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Himu on October 03, 2018, 08:13:30 AM
Holy shit the retro game talk ITT

Mandark flexing his gaming chops?

Total Carnage was one of those games advertised in like every damn mag that I never had the chance to play because it was always rented out. I tried to rent X-men for Genesis for YEARS at Phar-Mor and THEY NEVER HAD IT.

Wait, I’m thinking of Maximum Carnage. Lmao Oops.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Himu on October 03, 2018, 08:25:24 AM
X-men for Genesis sucked btw :( All that waiting for nothing
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: bork on October 03, 2018, 08:30:59 AM
X-men for Genesis sucked btw :( All that waiting for nothing

X-Men 2 was pretty good, at least.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Himu on October 03, 2018, 08:31:36 AM
X-men for Genesis sucked btw :( All that waiting for nothing

X-Men 2 was pretty good, at least.

Never played that one.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Himu on October 03, 2018, 08:47:59 AM
I’m gonna try it.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 03, 2018, 09:25:39 AM
Maximum Carnage was p dope
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Transhuman on October 03, 2018, 09:27:08 AM
What is Gamergate

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/i-honestly-dont-know-what-gamergate-is.1352339/#post-232023090

Of course, this was on 2016 NeoGaf

On 2018 NeoGaf, i'd have to take away the brackets to pass as a member
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: MMaRsu on October 03, 2018, 09:27:17 AM
https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/1047242321060921344

:gamergate

Gosh I was confusing her with the legendary Corinne Yu,who is amazing.

Who is this fucking moron?
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Oblivion on October 04, 2018, 04:25:26 AM
Holy shit the retro game talk ITT

Mandark flexing his gaming chops?

Total Carnage was one of those games advertised in like every damn mag that I never had the chance to play because it was always rented out. I tried to rent X-men for Genesis for YEARS at Phar-Mor and THEY NEVER HAD IT.

Wait, I’m thinking of Maximum Carnage. Lmao Oops.

Holy shit the retro game talk ITT

Mandark flexing his gaming chops?

Total Carnage was one of those games advertised in like every damn mag that I never had the chance to play because it was always rented out. I tried to rent X-men for Genesis for YEARS at Phar-Mor and THEY NEVER HAD IT.

Wait, I’m thinking of Maximum Carnage. Lmao Oops.

https://youtu.be/n_Q03y6YpuE

:rejoice

Separation Anxiety was trash though. I assume a completely different company made it considering how much shittier/muddier all the graphics/combat were.

Maximum Carnage though was :rejoice. The red cart  :lawd I don't think it's possible to beat Carnage without a Game Genie.

Maximum Carnage was p dope

I have to share this anecdote whenever this game is brought up.

Back in the day, my cousins and I went to one of our local game stores to trade some SNES games. This was before the days of internet, so we didn't really have a way of researching some of the lesser known games out there. So most of the time we just went by box art or the name, and hooped we got lucky. One game that caught our attention that day was Pit Fighter. Literally never heard of it until that day. Didn't know much about it, and the clerk was just as useless explaining to us what kind of game it was supposed to be. Still, it had  cool name and cool box art, so it managed to get through the initial screening process. I believe we traded two C-tier games for it that we weren't really going to miss either way (though it was still bullshit that that's how they did business).

When we went home to try it out, we were horrified to find out that it was actually a total piece of shit. To this day, I wonder if the game was physically damaged in some way because it was literally impossible to get past whatever the fuck the first "stage" was supposed to be. Needless to say, we were rather disappointed/pissed to say the least. Good luck trying to return that shit. Hell, the store would probably want us to pay THEM to get it back.

But amazingly enough, this story has a happy ending. One day, one of my cousin's tried to see his luck attempting to trade the game with one of his friends. Shockingly enough, one of his friends was willing to make the trade, and he did it with ULTIMATE CARNAGE! And it wasn't a case where this dude was tricked like we were. Apparently he legitimately liked it and the game remained ours permanently. No accounting for taste, I guess. But hey, never look a gift horse in the mouth, as they say.

Don't think I ever beat it, though. Ha.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Momo on October 04, 2018, 04:59:54 AM
what is this thread
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: Raist on October 04, 2018, 05:30:18 AM
what is this thread

A miserable pile of shitlords.
Title: Re: What is GamerGate?
Post by: The Sceneman on October 04, 2018, 06:37:17 AM
had to reply with the CASTLEVANIA MEME option cos SotN is THE BEST SHIT EVER