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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Kurt Russell on August 17, 2018, 02:04:54 PM

Title: 4 cyclists murdered by ISIS in Tajikistan
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 17, 2018, 02:04:54 PM
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"Evil is a make-believe concept we've invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans."

(https://images1.minutemediacdn.com/production-platform/912x516/5b744e0ab1931be2df000005.png)

https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1824-millennial-couple-bikes-near-isis-territory-to-prove-humans-are-kind-and-gets-killed
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kara on August 17, 2018, 02:10:12 PM
People are still going to use Octalink. :doge
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Tasty on August 17, 2018, 02:10:49 PM
Looks like BrandNew :thinking
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 17, 2018, 02:11:10 PM
This story definitely gets put in the same filing cabinet as Grizzly Man.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 17, 2018, 02:13:41 PM
that's a terribly written article

like cool, thanks for telling me they were vegan and vegetarian

why does that matter
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 17, 2018, 02:14:42 PM
that's a terribly written article

like cool, thanks for telling me they were vegan and vegetarian

why does that matter

It's important that the whole world knows they were vegan and vegetarian.

It's what they would have wanted.

Rip. Never forget.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Nintex on August 17, 2018, 02:14:50 PM
that's a terribly written article

like cool, thanks for telling me they were vegan and vegetarian

why does that matter
It tells you they were part of the good people even though they were cis and white.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: hampster on August 17, 2018, 02:26:18 PM
Headline is wrong about why they were cycling. Read about this on npr when it happened. Sucks :(
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Flannel Boy on August 17, 2018, 02:35:59 PM
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“People, the narrative goes, are not to be trusted. People are bad. People are evil."
“I don’t buy it," he continued.

Mugged killed by reality.

edit: it appears the article is a inaccurate as the couple may not even known they were cycling through ISIS territory nor was the point of their trip, despite their naivety about human nature, "to prove humans are kind."
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 17, 2018, 02:36:44 PM
that's a terribly written article

like cool, thanks for telling me they were vegan and vegetarian

why does that matter
It tells you they were part of the good people even though they were cis and white.

Can't spell CIS without ISIS.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kara on August 17, 2018, 02:42:17 PM
that's a terribly written article

like cool, thanks for telling me they were vegan and vegetarian

why does that matter

It always matters to culture warriors.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Mupepe on August 17, 2018, 02:59:57 PM
They were cute
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Boredfrom on August 17, 2018, 03:16:15 PM
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“People, the narrative goes, are not to be trusted. People are bad. People are evil."
“I don’t buy it," he continued.

Mugged killed by reality.

edit: it appears the article is a inaccurate as the couple may not even known they were cycling through ISIS territory nor was the point of their trip, despite their naivety about human nature, "to prove humans are kind."

Well, that article is tasteless.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: I'm a Puppy! on August 17, 2018, 03:18:29 PM
But my schadenfreude isn't.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: team filler on August 17, 2018, 03:43:47 PM
Maybe they killed them with kindness   :trumps
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Nabbis on August 17, 2018, 03:45:03 PM
Where do these carebears even crawl from? The type of sheltered life you need to live to have such fucked up view compared to how raw reality is smh.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: MMaRsu on August 17, 2018, 03:48:25 PM
You really have to be a fucking idiot to cycle through countries like that.

It's a fucking sad story, but don't fucking go there.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Atramental on August 17, 2018, 03:49:29 PM
I am thankful for discovering how fucked up humanity is, via 4chan and other sites like it, during my early teen years.

And people say 4chan has no value. Heh, I beg to differ. :snob
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Mandark on August 17, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
that's a terribly written article

like cool, thanks for telling me they were vegan and vegetarian

why does that matter

It always matters to culture warriors.
A site called Pluralist encouraging readers to sneer at murder victims for living a different lifestyle.

 :delicious
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: MMaRsu on August 17, 2018, 03:52:08 PM
Eyewitness asked one of the ppl who was hit by the car

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"Het eerste dat zij zei, was dat ze waren aangereden door een auto en dat mensen waren uitgestapt die hen met messen begonnen neer te steken."

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" The first thing she said, was that they had been hit by a car and that the people who got out started stabbing them with knives"


https://nos.nl/artikel/2243854-ooggetuige-filmt-mogelijke-aanslag-op-fietsers-tadzjikistan.html

Possible footage of the hit & run/stabbing in this link. Not gruesome but you can see a car hitting people who were on the road lying there. It's sick.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 17, 2018, 03:52:54 PM
Where do these carebears even crawl from?

Suburban America?
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: agrajag on August 17, 2018, 03:59:06 PM
Thanks for sharing this cautionary tale, I'll be sure not to bike through ISIS occupied territories
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: TEEEPO on August 17, 2018, 04:56:50 PM
tajikistan and the surrounding areas have been attracting hikers and cyclists for decades

even after the attack, central asia is prob still safer for cyclists than any metro area.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kara on August 17, 2018, 05:10:37 PM
Thank you for liking my dumb bottom bracket joke, TEEPO. :-*
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: curly on August 17, 2018, 05:33:12 PM
so basically the whole story is bullshit but channers and their ilk lapped it up because they operate at the same level as boomers sharing facebook memes about Obama being a Moozlim

edit: tajikistan is a low-risk travel destination according to the State department
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: CatsCatsCats on August 17, 2018, 05:41:10 PM
so basically the whole story is bullshit but channers and their ilk lapped it up because they operate at the same level as boomers sharing facebook memes about Obama being a Moozlim

The Venn diagram for those boomers and channers is approaching near perfect circle
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 17, 2018, 05:49:43 PM
edit: tajikistan is a low-risk travel destination according to the State department

You should go cycling there and let us know how you get on
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Mandark on August 17, 2018, 05:52:39 PM
Half the murder rate of the US.

:yeshrug
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: curly on August 17, 2018, 05:54:16 PM
edit: tajikistan is a low-risk travel destination according to the State department

You should go cycling there and let us know how you get on

lots of material for your next thread here

https://twitter.com/wewuzboomers?lang=en (https://twitter.com/wewuzboomers?lang=en)
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 17, 2018, 05:55:18 PM

lots of material for your next thread here

https://twitter.com/wewuzboomers?lang=en (https://twitter.com/wewuzboomers?lang=en)

Cheers for sharing your Twitter links, but you do you. I'm good.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: TEEEPO on August 17, 2018, 05:56:11 PM
edit: tajikistan is a low-risk travel destination according to the State department

You should go cycling there and let us know how you get on

(https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/lfBILfTXXoFWAFpmhLOV0m9vPhc=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/DALXXEE7ZQI6RA6SOAQDXDL3IQ.jpg)
i've cycled through much worse

Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Mandark on August 17, 2018, 05:56:23 PM
lol@kurt
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Post by: TEEEPO on August 17, 2018, 05:57:14 PM
 :mouf
brb, thinking of cycling through tajikistan
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Nola on August 17, 2018, 05:57:53 PM
It's threads like these that highlight how people end up as fucking ignorant and stupid as they are. The world's knowledge at your fingertips and you end up in vicious cycles feeding yourself nonsense like this because you can't work past your own motivated reasoning.


....For reference I am talking about the OP, not the cyclists.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 17, 2018, 05:57:53 PM
:mouf
brb, thinking of cycling through tajikistan

Take curly with you pls.

I'll provide his soy and tofu rations.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: curly on August 17, 2018, 06:01:51 PM
:umad
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Mandark on August 17, 2018, 06:03:36 PM
This is essentially "I don't go to that mall, I heard it's full of MS-13's" but with passports.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kara on August 17, 2018, 06:11:55 PM
so basically the whole story is bullshit but channers and their ilk lapped it up because they operate at the same level as boomers sharing facebook memes about Obama being a Moozlim

edit: tajikistan is a low-risk travel destination according to the State department

OP earnestly links Info Wars and then replies with, "I don't discount a story just because of its source :smug," when people make fun of him for earnestly linking Info Wars.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 17, 2018, 06:15:22 PM
OP earnestly links Info Wars and then replies with, "I don't discount a story just because of its source :smug," when people make fun of him for earnestly linking Info Wars.

I linked Info Wars? When?
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kara on August 17, 2018, 06:24:14 PM
Off the top of my head: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45352.0
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Himu on August 17, 2018, 06:24:30 PM
So sad
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kurt Russell on August 17, 2018, 07:19:12 PM
Off the top of my head: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45352.0

Yeah so that's not infowars. Gotcha. Apology accepted.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Kara on August 17, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
Linking Rebel Media linking Info Wars isn't linking Info Wars. Got it.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: TEEEPO on August 17, 2018, 07:43:01 PM
 :mindblown
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 17, 2018, 08:06:56 PM
...it should have been these assholes

http://www.thisvictorianlife.com/blog
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 17, 2018, 08:27:17 PM
lol op wrecked
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 17, 2018, 08:32:51 PM
Kurt russel has always been a douche
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Broseidon on August 17, 2018, 10:02:35 PM
Tajikistan is as much "ISIS territory" as Belgium is ::)  Still on my list of places to visit  :win
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: seagrams hotsauce on August 17, 2018, 11:23:20 PM
lol at kurt getting sand in his pussy over the slightest pushback itt :lol you chan nerds are softestest i swear
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Assimilate on August 17, 2018, 11:52:10 PM
My question is what did they do to afford 'round-the-world cycling trip?'

EDit: After leaving his job at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.."


damn, wtf? they make that much to just up and quit?


Edit 2: The OP article is definitely off base but it's still a bit ironic to die in that way after posting something like this

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You watch the news and you read the papers and you’re led to believe that the world is a big, scary place. People, the narrative goes, are not to be trusted. People are bad. People are evil. People are axe murderers and monsters and worse.

I don’t buy it. Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own — it’s easier to dismiss an opinion as abhorrent than strive to understand it. Badness exists, sure, but even that’s quite rare. By and large, humans are kind. Self-interested sometimes, myopic sometimes, but kind. Generous and wonderful and kind. No greater revelation has come from our journey than this.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Nola on August 18, 2018, 02:40:59 AM
My question is what did they do to afford 'round-the-world cycling trip?'

EDit: After leaving his job at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.."


damn, wtf? they make that much to just up and quit?


Edit 2: The OP article is definitely off base but it's still a bit ironic to die in that way after posting something like this

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You watch the news and you read the papers and you’re led to believe that the world is a big, scary place. People, the narrative goes, are not to be trusted. People are bad. People are evil. People are axe murderers and monsters and worse.

I don’t buy it. Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own — it’s easier to dismiss an opinion as abhorrent than strive to understand it. Badness exists, sure, but even that’s quite rare. By and large, humans are kind. Self-interested sometimes, myopic sometimes, but kind. Generous and wonderful and kind. No greater revelation has come from our journey than this.

I mean that is a blog post reflecting on his experience with a foreign family that showed an intense amount of kindness and generosity toward them: http://archive.fo/01brg

Seems like you would honestly have a lot to relate to with that guy in that one moment? Seeing as you, like he was doing in that moment, and like you do in seemingly every moment, root your perception of the world entirely around an anecdotal experience, except with you it gets filtered through a world of personal misery and he seems to have had a more positive disposition.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: nudemacusers on August 18, 2018, 07:49:38 AM
This is essentially "I don't go to that mall, I heard it's full of MS-13's" but with passports.
Tbf there are a lot of them at malls now.

Mexicans, I mean.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Huff on August 18, 2018, 09:48:02 AM
If they were traveling the world and bar hopping this wouldn't have happened

Excuse in foreign areas brehz
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: nudemacusers on August 18, 2018, 10:20:13 AM
p much. if you're exercising in a country that isn' your own you're prob a figgurt.
Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Assimilate on August 18, 2018, 11:55:34 AM

Seems like you would honestly have a lot to relate to with that guy in that one moment? Seeing as you, like he was doing in that moment, and like you do in seemingly every moment, root your perception of the world entirely around an anecdotal experience, except with you it gets filtered through a world of personal misery and he seems to have had a more positive disposition.
Anecdotal experience... i find this such an interesting slam.

Do life experiences mean little to you or are you/were you the type of person that dismissed every single adult or senior that attempted to give you some advice as a young man? Does it ever occur to you that there are a fuck ton of flawed research out there?

The irony is that you'd most likely make a statement like this (negative or positive) before i would
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I don’t buy it. Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented


Title: Re: Millennial Couple Bikes Near ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’. Murdered
Post by: Nola on August 18, 2018, 01:14:47 PM
It’s the over reliance on it through perverse filtering I was taking a shot at, not the entire concept of lived experiences dumbass.

Title: Re: 4 cyclists murdered by ISIS in Tajikistan
Post by: benjipwns on August 18, 2018, 05:19:30 PM
It's not ironic, it's just coincidental. And arguably so only if he considered his murder to be evil. Maybe he understood and saw valid reasons for his murder. He might have had a history of severe infractions, maybe his account was still in a junior phase. There's plenty of reasons someone might be actioned.
Title: Re: 4 cyclists murdered by ISIS in Tajikistan
Post by: Assimilate on August 18, 2018, 05:23:13 PM
It’s the over reliance on it through perverse filtering I was taking a shot at, not the entire concept of lived experiences dumbass.
No Nola. Your whole shtick is google searching as much as possible half-assed articles or flawed research papers to argue with people on internet forums. Remove the computer or iphone from your fingers you probably have nothing. Your brain wouldn't even know what to do having to actually think for itself.

This is how you come off to me atleast. Stay zen  :heart


It's not ironic, it's just coincidental. And arguably so only if he considered his murder to be evil. Maybe he understood and saw valid reasons for his murder. He might have had a history of severe infractions, maybe his account was still in a junior phase. There's plenty of reasons someone might be actioned.
B.genius bringing that deep philosophy

 :rejoice
Title: Re: 4 cyclists murdered by ISIS in Tajikistan
Post by: nudemacusers on August 18, 2018, 05:23:58 PM
at least they weren't murdered by obummer/killary's drone program. i'd think betrayal of that nature would sting more tbh.
Title: Re: 4 cyclists murdered by ISIS in Tajikistan
Post by: agrajag on August 18, 2018, 05:28:18 PM
So "being Zen" is just being your regular asshole self and just tacking on "imo, stay Zen brehs" at the end?  :doge
Title: Re: 4 cyclists murdered by ISIS in Tajikistan
Post by: Assimilate on August 18, 2018, 05:33:03 PM
So "being Zen" is just being your regular asshole self and just tacking on "imo, stay Zen brehs" at the end?  :doge
Being zen doesn't mean i have to be a pacifist.
Title: Re: 4 cyclists murdered by ISIS in Tajikistan
Post by: TEEEPO on August 18, 2018, 05:49:31 PM
mods plz
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Post by: Nola on August 19, 2018, 12:22:08 AM
No Nola. Your whole shtick is google searching as much as possible half-assed articles or flawed research papers to argue with people on internet forums. Remove the computer or iphone from your fingers you probably have nothing. Your brain wouldn't even know what to do having to actually think for itself.

This is how you come off to me atleast. Stay zen  :heart




People researching a topic...a character flaw. :-[  :-*




Title: Re: 4 cyclists murdered by ISIS in Tajikistan
Post by: nudemacusers on August 19, 2018, 01:46:08 AM
wrong thread fk