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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 07:33:02 PM

Title: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 07:33:02 PM
Didn't see a Sam Harris thread so i figured why not  :doge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-D__9B2t2E

This interview is good. Talks about the rise of the safe space generation wrongly attributed to millenials when in fact it's generation z/Igen (i much rather call them the safe space generation) that is responsible for this.

Apparently this is the new hot topic amongst social psychologists finding out how this happened and why.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 07:33:28 PM
Lock plz.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 07:33:59 PM
And deplatform Assimilate plz.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 07:34:43 PM
Get out of here you ladyboy.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 07:38:19 PM
Get out of here you ladyboy.

I think the slur “ladyboy” is at least worth a duration-pending ban.

Also, I’m not a ladyboy, I just want to objectify and have sex with them as long as they’re cool with using their dicks.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: agrajag on September 13, 2018, 07:45:53 PM
You were just screaming how stupid Harris was with his "lol atheism is for edgy 12 year olds" bullshit a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 13, 2018, 07:50:57 PM
Get out of here you ladyboy.

I think the slur “ladyboy” is at least worth a duration-pending ban.

Also, I’m not a ladyboy, I just want to objectify and have sex with them as long as they’re cool with using their dicks.

there's honestly nothing worse than a ladyboy who is ashamed and hides the cock. like what is the point even then.

Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Mandark on September 13, 2018, 08:09:48 PM
Dollar store ass Christopher Hitchens.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Himu on September 13, 2018, 08:30:52 PM
Get out of here you ladyboy.

I think the slur “ladyboy” is at least worth a duration-pending ban.

Also, I’m not a ladyboy, I just want to objectify and have sex with them as long as they’re cool with using their dicks.

there's honestly nothing worse than a ladyboy who is ashamed and hides the cock. like what is the point even then.

:tocry
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 08:40:32 PM
Relevant to the discussion: https://bit.ly/2MvR6Xk
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 08:41:52 PM
You were just screaming how stupid Harris was with his "lol atheism is for edgy 12 year olds" bullshit a couple of months ago.
Why is it that i can't disagree with someone on one thing and not think they're completely worthless? Stop the REE mentality please. You're better than that... partially.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Mandark on September 13, 2018, 08:43:18 PM
Assimilate, please don't derail the ladyboy thread.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 08:45:04 PM
You were just screaming how stupid Harris was with his "lol atheism is for edgy 12 year olds" bullshit a couple of months ago.
Why is it that i can't disagree with someone on one thing and not think they're completely worthless? Stop the REE mentality please. You're better than that... partially.

“How could I go back home and go on dates with biological women and put up with the nagging, complaining, bitching and all the rest of the crap that we men have to put up with in the west just to receive a bit of sex which is mostly bad quality sex and less frequent sex over time at that. I knew that I would never be the same again and that I had ruined myself for future dates with women back home.”
                                                                     — Sam Harris
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 08:50:33 PM
You were just screaming how stupid Harris was with his "lol atheism is for edgy 12 year olds" bullshit a couple of months ago.
Why is it that i can't disagree with someone on one thing and not think they're completely worthless? Stop the REE mentality please. You're better than that... partially.

“How could I go back home and go on dates with biological women and put up with the nagging, complaining, bitching and all the rest of the crap that we men have to put up with in the west just to receive a bit of sex which is mostly bad quality sex and less frequent sex over time at that. I knew that I would never be the same again and that I had ruined myself for future dates with women back home.”
                                                                     — Sam Harris
hahaha wut
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Mandark on September 13, 2018, 08:51:27 PM
tbh that reads almost exactly like one of your posts
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 13, 2018, 08:51:51 PM
Relevant to the discussion: https://bit.ly/2MvR6Xk

Asia can be wild man. I was a somewhat surprised spectator when all of the miss Bakla candidates from the different areas in the Philippines, came over to us to visit the major and wish him a happy birthday. Proper fit some of them, and there was a whole bus of them.

(https://i.imgur.com/D41o1gd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uJnCJSo.jpg)


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sadly i had to delete them all off facebook after a while. The stress of having them write to you on there every night was too much.
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Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 09:09:09 PM
mods halp. derailing my fucking thread.

 :ltg
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 09:11:13 PM
mods halp. derailing my fucking thread.

 :ltg

Here’s one just for you, hoss.

https://bit.ly/2Qn2CaJ
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Mandark on September 13, 2018, 09:11:49 PM
deep down it was always a ladyboy thread

it was just assigned the wrong topic at birth
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 09:12:12 PM
Nope not clicking it. fuck off.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 09:15:59 PM
Nope not clicking it. fuck off.

https://youtu.be/XqxSG0x2ldk
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: agrajag on September 13, 2018, 09:45:05 PM
First the mistreatment of Cream, then letting Marrec roam free, and now calling Assimilate a lady boy.

The bore really does have a transphobia problem. I blame bork.

You are right, we shouldn't call Assimilate slurs like ladyboy. Zhe deserves better.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: team filler on September 13, 2018, 09:46:45 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 09:47:56 PM
First the mistreatment of Cream, then letting Marrec roam free, and now calling Assimilate a lady boy.

The bore really does have a transphobia problem. I blame bork.

You are right, we shouldn't call Assimilate slurs like ladyboy. Zhe deserves better.
Wait, is it considered a slur?

I didn't even know, but then again everything is a slur these days  :trumps
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 09:49:08 PM
This is the Jurassic Park/Event Horizon guy, right? Underrated actor. He should have been in more stuff.

He was too busy fronting Motley Crue. I think he has his own line of vodka or something, too.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: agrajag on September 13, 2018, 10:05:47 PM
First the mistreatment of Cream, then letting Marrec roam free, and now calling Assimilate a lady boy.

The bore really does have a transphobia problem. I blame bork.

You are right, we shouldn't call Assimilate slurs like ladyboy. Zhe deserves better.
Wait, is it considered a slur?

I didn't even know, but then again everything is a slur these days  :trumps

Hey, if you want to self-identify as a ladyboy, who am I to tell you not to.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: agrajag on September 13, 2018, 10:20:54 PM
American transwomen don't want to be referred to in any way that reminds them of their biological sex, I think.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 13, 2018, 11:22:54 PM


Since you're brazilian I see why you're ok self identifying as such. Brazil is essentially the America's Thailand.

 :oreilly

explain this
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 13, 2018, 11:53:53 PM
"Ladyboy" is in this weird space where it is and it isn't. I doubt any transwoman who isn't Thai would like to be referred to as such, but the large thai contingent identifies as such. So it's only really wrong in context.

Since you're brazilian I see why you're ok self identifying as such. Brazil is essentially the America's Thailand.

Wait, all this time I’ve thought he was borktarded and it turns out he’s just Brazilian? Boy do I look like an ass.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: curly on September 13, 2018, 11:54:05 PM
ham sarris
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Momo on September 14, 2018, 12:16:23 AM
mods halp. derailing my fucking thread.

 :ltg
You expected to discuss Sam Harris seriously, on this fucking forum?  :bolo :cac
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Huff on September 14, 2018, 12:18:16 AM
This is the Jurassic Park/Event Horizon guy, right? Underrated actor. He should have been in more stuff.

He should have been in more movies. Big fan

I even watched that dumb vampire movie he was in as the bad guy
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Huff on September 14, 2018, 12:20:58 AM
This is the Jurassic Park/Event Horizon guy, right? Underrated actor. He should have been in more stuff.

He should have been in more movies. Big fan

I even watched that dumb vampire movie he was in as the bad guy

His real name is Nigel John Dermot Neill

That’s pretty lulzy. Nigel. I wonder how many times he got a swirly as a kid
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: benjipwns on September 14, 2018, 01:11:35 AM
Didn't see a Sam Harris thread so i figured why not  :doge
No stealing my thread making gimmicks. :bolo
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Oblivion on September 14, 2018, 02:28:29 AM
Sam has absolutely been killing it with the well reasoned, completely ironclad arguments recently, such as:

- Claiming that he can't be appealing to White supremacists cause of his belief of racially profiling muslims and black people because he's a Jew
- Deciding that he learned literally all that he will ever need to about Charles Murray because he spoke to him for over two hours and he was polite to Sam the entire time

And my personal favorite, arguing that there would be no greater foe of identity politics today than Martin Luther King, were he alive today.

It's like the man gets more logical with every passing day!
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: benjipwns on September 14, 2018, 02:30:26 AM
maybe they'd be Martin Luther Queen where xhe alive today? ever think about that?
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: benjipwns on September 14, 2018, 02:31:45 AM
"Ladyboy" is in this weird space where it is and it isn't. I doubt any transwoman who isn't Thai would like to be referred to as such, but the large thai contingent identifies as such. So it's only really wrong in context.

Since you're brazilian I see why you're ok self identifying as such. Brazil is essentially the America's Thailand.
Wait, all this time I’ve thought he was borktarded and it turns out he’s just Brazilian? Boy do I look like an ass.
she's not Brazilian, just an Ugly American slummin' it where there are no screens on windows to keep mosquitos out for fun and profit
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: benjipwns on September 14, 2018, 02:40:23 AM
Relevant to the discussion: https://bit.ly/2MvR6Xk

Asia can be wild man. I was a somewhat surprised spectator when all of the miss Bakla candidates from the different areas in the Philippines, came over to us to visit the major and wish him a happy birthday. Proper fit some of them, and there was a whole bus of them.

(https://i.imgur.com/D41o1gd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uJnCJSo.jpg)


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sadly i had to delete them all off facebook after a while. The stress of having them write to you on there every night was too much.
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Tasty missed his chance to see how well Shosta can pull this off compared to some of them.

In the one Anthony Bourdain episode, might have even been his first series not No Reservations, in one of the Southeastern Asian Countries including potentially the Filapines, he wound up hanging out with a bunch of ladyboys (for lack of better term and lack of remembering what the specific phrase in the country is because they aren't exactly equivalent to our trans women or anything else in the West) because they knew where all the actual good places were, and his translator/handler dude bailed out rather than be seen around town with them. :lol

The latter part makes me think it may have been a more authoritarian place like Thailand or Singapore maybe. Though I've also read that for authoritarian regimes they are remarkably accommodating to the lifestyle because its culture so predates their colonization/christianized periods. That state punishment for it is often in addition to other things, rather than a more direct discrimination. Though I'm sure that's a helpful "in" like how our cops are constantly smelling marijuana while driving down the road at 90.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: benjipwns on September 14, 2018, 02:41:56 AM
 :expert
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Mandark on September 14, 2018, 02:48:52 AM
How does it feel to ruin an Assimilate thread?
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Oblivion on September 14, 2018, 02:50:43 AM
Dollar store ass Christopher Hitchens.

To be fair, if Hitchens was alive today, he'd probably be right alongside Harris, Peterson and Shapiro doing nationwide tours complaining about SJWs.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: benjipwns on September 14, 2018, 02:58:26 AM
How does it feel to ruin an Assimilate thread?
ALL OF MY POSTS WERE ON THE PROPER TOPIC
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 14, 2018, 03:49:33 AM
Dollar store ass Christopher Hitchens.

To be fair, if Hitchens was alive today, he'd probably be right alongside Harris, Peterson and Shapiro doing nationwide tours complaining about SJWs.
SJWs are brutal and partially the reason Trump got elected so yeah.

Or is this just a  Sam Harris illogical conspiracy theory or something? Despite sociologists now beginning to study and write books on the whole safe space movement? Ok.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: benjipwns on September 14, 2018, 04:02:59 AM
SJWs are brutal and partially the reason Trump got elected so yeah.
In theory, almost everything is "partially" a reason Trump won. Social studies warriors in particular are a massively small reason to where they're probably actually negligible. The broader culture war is a huge one, but isn't something you can pin on a single group even one as nebulous as "social studies warriors."

Despite sociologists now beginning to study and write books on the whole safe space movement? Ok.
I'd be pretty surprised if sociologists weren't studying safe spaces since the 1970s or so.

Please consider this thread a safe space to explore your developing thoughts about your inner femininity.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: benjipwns on September 14, 2018, 04:30:34 AM
crap i messed up, didn't i mandark
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Rufus on September 14, 2018, 06:16:23 AM
Dollar store ass Christopher Hitchens.

To be fair, if Hitchens was alive today, he'd probably be right alongside Harris, Peterson and Shapiro doing nationwide tours complaining about SJWs.
He did call Sam Harris a brilliant neuroscientist once, if I remember correctly. I don't think Harris has done much sciencing besides the work on his PhD.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: benjipwns on September 14, 2018, 06:33:03 AM
Your post made me look up Sam Harris' background for the first time ever.

First, his mom created The Golden Girls!!!!!!!!1

Second, this is amazing:
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Though his original major was in English, he became interested in philosophical questions while at Stanford University after an experience with the empathogen–entactogen MDMA.[15] The experience led him to be interested in the idea that he might be able to achieve spiritual insights without the use of drugs.[16] Leaving Stanford in his second year, a quarter after his psychedelic experience, he went to India and Nepal, where he studied meditation with Buddhist and Hindu religious teachers,[16][17] including Dilgo Khyentse.[18] Eleven years later, in 1997, he returned to Stanford, completing a B.A. degree in philosophy in 2000.[19][20][21] Harris began writing his first book, The End of Faith, immediately after the September 11 attacks.[19] Harris began writing the book in what he described as a period of "collective grief and stupefaction" following the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Third, I don't know anything about neuroscience journals, but he has published with quite a few co-authors a decent number of times...if I were to give the skeptical explanation, it may be that they use his name to assist publishing, though a couple of the studies are things it looks like he'd actually be involved in like MRI-ing religious people while checking their beliefs. His PhD was for MRIing people while they judged things true/false/unknown.

He says he's not academically employed for security reasons, which would make research quite difficult. Even without his published research in the field I would probably guarantee you this guy could get a professorship at a prominent university. I even bet there's many schools that would give him one in philosophy/religion/ethics if he wanted it despite the PhD and research being in neuroscience. Arguably he's as published in the philosophy/religion field albeit in a very different manner, his name would get him past most any department standards except at certain places like Harvard. I suspect Jake could guess at all this probability far better than me. As philosophy/religion are just neighbors within our Humanities apartment complex.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 14, 2018, 08:51:58 AM
"Ladyboy" is in this weird space where it is and it isn't. I doubt any transwoman who isn't Thai would like to be referred to as such, but the large thai contingent identifies as such. So it's only really wrong in context.

Since you're brazilian I see why you're ok self identifying as such. Brazil is essentially the America's Thailand.
Wait, all this time I’ve thought he was borktarded and it turns out he’s just Brazilian? Boy do I look like an ass.
she's not Brazilian, just an Ugly American slummin' it where there are no screens on windows to keep mosquitos out for fun and profit

What’s xer excuse for being so terrible ar writing english?

And xhe’s living a slight variation on Opa’s good ol’ “third-world fuck tour” then? Or is it a “third-world depression cure tour?”
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 14, 2018, 09:03:08 AM
"Ladyboy" is in this weird space where it is and it isn't. I doubt any transwoman who isn't Thai would like to be referred to as such, but the large thai contingent identifies as such. So it's only really wrong in context.

Since you're brazilian I see why you're ok self identifying as such. Brazil is essentially the America's Thailand.
Wait, all this time I’ve thought he was borktarded and it turns out he’s just Brazilian? Boy do I look like an ass.
she's not Brazilian, just an Ugly American slummin' it where there are no screens on windows to keep mosquitos out for fun and profit

What’s xer excuse for being so terrible ar writing english?

And xhe’s living a slight variation on Opa’s good ol’ “third-world fuck tour” then? Or is it a “third-world depression cure tour?
  All applies.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: agrajag on September 14, 2018, 09:20:18 AM
She's there for the Brazilian ladyboys.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 14, 2018, 11:42:45 AM
 :asuka
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Rufus on September 14, 2018, 02:49:00 PM
Third, I don't know anything about neuroscience journals, but he has published with quite a few co-authors a decent number of times...if I were to give the skeptical explanation, it may be that they use his name to assist publishing, though a couple of the studies are things it looks like he'd actually be involved in like MRI-ing religious people while checking their beliefs. His PhD was for MRIing people while they judged things true/false/unknown.
Brand recognition is where I lean too, and while I don't want to push for paper mill science, three or four papers since '08 is rather low and would have been lower still whenever Hitchens called him brilliant (in whatever piece of media I will never be able to find now).

He says he's not academically employed for security reasons, which would make research quite difficult.
Whu-huh? Personal safety, or what?
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 14, 2018, 02:52:56 PM
Third, I don't know anything about neuroscience journals, but he has published with quite a few co-authors a decent number of times...if I were to give the skeptical explanation, it may be that they use his name to assist publishing, though a couple of the studies are things it looks like he'd actually be involved in like MRI-ing religious people while checking their beliefs. His PhD was for MRIing people while they judged things true/false/unknown.
would have been lower still whenever Hitchens called him brilliant (in whatever piece of media I will never be able to find now).

So you say christopher hitchens called him a brilliant neuroscientist (i don't remember him doing this) but you can't find it? Oh, ok.:like
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Rufus on September 14, 2018, 02:56:50 PM
I tried for a whole 5 minutes. You can't possibly expect me to... Oh fine.

I actually found it, whew. A Q&A from '09 where he calls him a 'great man of science in [his] respective field', at a point where Harris had published barely anything. So not quite "brilliant", but close enough.
https://youtu.be/78Jl2iPPUtI?t=660 (https://youtu.be/78Jl2iPPUtI?t=660)

Just curious, btw, but did you read it as an insult against Sam Harris or against Christopher Hitchens?

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Also, youtube-dl is a great piece of software. Found out that it was this specific video by extracting the auto-generated subtitles and doing a simple search in the resulting file. :rejoice
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Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Tasty on September 14, 2018, 03:25:56 PM
Your post made me look up Sam Harris' background for the first time ever.

First, his mom created The Golden Girls!!!!!!!!1

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oKIPrljOVYppIrRcY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: agrajag on September 14, 2018, 03:44:41 PM
Sam Harris' mom > Sam Harris
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 14, 2018, 03:47:42 PM


I actually found it, whew. A Q&A from '09 where he calls him a 'great man of science in [his] respective field', at a point where Harris had published barely anything. So not quite "brilliant", but close enough.
https://youtu.be/78Jl2iPPUtI?t=660 (https://youtu.be/78Jl2iPPUtI?t=660)


meh... i can excuse him for this blunder because he was mainly talking about Dawkins and Daniel Dennett. He kind of just threw Harris in there, wrongfully so. This is up there with Bill Maher saying something utterly ridiculous about how Milo was similar to Hitchens.

When you're on camera a lot you are bound to stick your foot in your mouth and say stupid shit from time to time but since most of you are of the REE variety catching someone saying something in an off kind of way is utterly obliterating to their whole career and overall persona.

 :yeshrug
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Rufus on September 14, 2018, 03:57:37 PM
Oh, ok. :like
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 14, 2018, 04:23:34 PM
Oh, ok. :like
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Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: agrajag on September 14, 2018, 04:25:04 PM
that' Zen

 :clap
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: jakefromstatefarm on September 14, 2018, 06:37:10 PM

He says he's not academically employed for security reasons, which would make research quite difficult. Even without his published research in the field I would probably guarantee you this guy could get a professorship at a prominent university. I even bet there's many schools that would give him one in philosophy/religion/ethics if he wanted it despite the PhD and research being in neuroscience. Arguably he's as published in the philosophy/religion field albeit in a very different manner, his name would get him past most any department standards except at certain places like Harvard. I suspect Jake could guess at all this probability far better than me. As philosophy/religion are just neighbors within our Humanities apartment complex.
i wasn’t gonna post anything in here because the first ~40 or so posts went better than anything I could’ve contributed, BUT since you flashed the bat signal.

Harris is far less published in his purported field than, say, Pinker or Peterson. I’ve heard that his PhD is less than stellar scholarship and in large part a product of connections and family money. Which I don’t think we need to feel any particular way about; terrible research gets produced all the time so this is a case of hating the game not the player, as far as I’m concerned. What we do know for sure is that what he’s gained a following for has been at the expense of mangling interactions/correspondences with people in other fields he likes to pontificate on, mangling arguments/discussions within those same fields, and being not terribly interested in reevaluating his stance when someone points all this out. WRT the rest of the IDW manosphere, Harris’ defining characteristics are: naive act utilitarianism, which he treats as completely self-evident and not actually utilitarianism (though I think he’s inconsistent on this last point); apologia for state interventionism (read: American empire) abroad; the kind of bill Maher smug shoe atheism that was infinitely annoying 5 years ago but in the light of where the Overton windows gone in the meantime now seems quaint; a fixation on the is-ought gap, or, whether normative conclusions can be derived from merely descriptive claims (one of the aforementioned manglings; and a penchant for using bludgeoning rhetoric to belittle and dismiss opponents rather than engage in, wait for it, reasoned argument.

As to why he doesn’t take a job in academia, look at how much his podcast alone makes him. Back when he had a patreon that was getting him hundreds of thousands a month iirc. He still gets invited to a bajillion events/talks/conferences a year where he and Maajid Nawaz, Charles Murray, et al. can sit in armchairs and stare intently at each other while pondering just how fucking smart everyone is, disagreeing only in degree and not kind how badly we need to nuke the Fertile Crescent into glass and bemoan the fact that the university they’re at installed unisex bathrooms. He chose all of that rather than producing actual research. I think that indicates where exactly his priorities lie.

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First, his mom created The Golden Girls!!!!!!!!1
i take everything back
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Oblivion on September 14, 2018, 07:26:43 PM
Dollar store ass Christopher Hitchens.

To be fair, if Hitchens was alive today, he'd probably be right alongside Harris, Peterson and Shapiro doing nationwide tours complaining about SJWs.
SJWs are brutal and partially the reason Trump got elected so yeah.

Or is this just a  Sam Harris illogical conspiracy theory or something? Despite sociologists now beginning to study and write books on the whole safe space movement? Ok.

Oh so NOW we need to take sociology as a legitimate field of study?  :ufup
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: BisMarckie on September 14, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
I don't like the direction this thread is going within the last few posts :wag
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: agrajag on September 14, 2018, 07:55:42 PM
ladyboys
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Himu on September 14, 2018, 08:50:53 PM
Holy shit, Marcia Luther Queen is an amazing nick and I’m taking it
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 14, 2018, 08:51:54 PM
Your post made me look up Sam Harris' background for the first time ever.

First, his mom created The Golden Girls!!!!!!!!1

Oh shit, I never realized this. His mom is TV royalty. She worked on all those old classic Norman Lear shows. Pretty sure she may have written the abortion episode of Maude. Iirc it’s why Bea wanted to work with her on Golden Girls.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Oblivion on September 14, 2018, 09:26:25 PM
Holy shit, Marcia Luther Queen is an amazing nick and I’m taking it

you could also try martina
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Propagandhim on September 14, 2018, 09:36:39 PM
Sam's a good man.  Almost a decade ago, I was struggling with acclimating to my tinnitus and I took an MBSR (meditation course) to try to get a handle on dealing with it.  I knew he had tinnitus and was a seasoned meditator, so I thought it might help.  It turned out, I wasn't able to participate in the silence of the the courseroom for more than a minute without wanting to chew my face off and was super frustrated and depressed.   I found myself on his website and filling out the Contact Me form about my issues even though I thought there was no chance I'd get a response.  He writes me back a personalized e-mail addressing my specific concerns with like a 4 short paragraphs long email of some advice and directions on how to meditate with tinnitus.  It really helped me out.  Dude was super popular with so many better things to do, and he took time out of his day to write a comprehensive private e-mail to help a complete stranger. Not going to forget that.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 15, 2018, 12:56:07 AM

He says he's not academically employed for security reasons, which would make research quite difficult. Even without his published research in the field I would probably guarantee you this guy could get a professorship at a prominent university. I even bet there's many schools that would give him one in philosophy/religion/ethics if he wanted it despite the PhD and research being in neuroscience. Arguably he's as published in the philosophy/religion field albeit in a very different manner, his name would get him past most any department standards except at certain places like Harvard. I suspect Jake could guess at all this probability far better than me. As philosophy/religion are just neighbors within our Humanities apartment complex.
i wasn’t gonna post anything in here because the first ~40 or so posts went better than anything I could’ve contributed, BUT since you flashed the bat signal.

Harris is far less published in his purported field than, say, Pinker or Peterson. I’ve heard that his PhD is less than stellar scholarship and in large part a product of connections and family money. Which I don’t think we need to feel any particular way about; terrible research gets produced all the time so this is a case of hating the game not the player, as far as I’m concerned. What we do know for sure is that what he’s gained a following for has been at the expense of mangling interactions/correspondences with people in other fields he likes to pontificate on, mangling arguments/discussions within those same fields, and being not terribly interested in reevaluating his stance when someone points all this out. WRT the rest of the IDW manosphere, Harris’ defining characteristics are: naive act utilitarianism, which he treats as completely self-evident and not actually utilitarianism (though I think he’s inconsistent on this last point); apologia for state interventionism (read: American empire) abroad; the kind of bill Maher smug shoe atheism that was infinitely annoying 5 years ago but in the light of where the Overton windows gone in the meantime now seems quaint; a fixation on the is-ought gap, or, whether normative conclusions can be derived from merely descriptive claims (one of the aforementioned manglings; and a penchant for using bludgeoning rhetoric to belittle and dismiss opponents rather than engage in, wait for it, reasoned argument.

As to why he doesn’t take a job in academia, look at how much his podcast alone makes him. Back when he had a patreon that was getting him hundreds of thousands a month iirc. He still gets invited to a bajillion events/talks/conferences a year where he and Maajid Nawaz, Charles Murray, et al. can sit in armchairs and stare intently at each other while pondering just how fucking smart everyone is, disagreeing only in degree and not kind how badly we need to nuke the Fertile Crescent into glass and bemoan the fact that the university they’re at installed unisex bathrooms. He chose all of that rather than producing actual research. I think that indicates where exactly his priorities lie.

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First, his mom created The Golden Girls!!!!!!!!1
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Blah blah blah I'm smarter than Sam Harris blah blah blah.

Sam's a good man.  Almost a decade ago, I was struggling with acclimating to my tinnitus and I took an MBSR (meditation course) to try to get a handle on dealing with it.  I knew he had tinnitus and was a seasoned meditator, so I thought it might help.  It turned out, I wasn't able to participate in the silence of the the courseroom for more than a minute without wanting to chew my face off and was super frustrated and depressed.   I found myself on his website and filling out the Contact Me form about my issues even though I thought there was no chance I'd get a response.  He writes me back a personalized e-mail addressing my specific concerns with like a 4 short paragraphs long email of some advice and directions on how to meditate with tinnitus.  It really helped me out.  Dude was super popular with so many better things to do, and he took time out of his day to write a comprehensive private e-mail to help a complete stranger. Not going to forget that.
How dare you speak kindly of someone that the Bore disapproves of!
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 15, 2018, 01:40:40 AM
Sam's a good man.  Almost a decade ago, I was struggling with acclimating to my tinnitus and I took an MBSR (meditation course) to try to get a handle on dealing with it.  I knew he had tinnitus and was a seasoned meditator, so I thought it might help.  It turned out, I wasn't able to participate in the silence of the the courseroom for more than a minute without wanting to chew my face off and was super frustrated and depressed.   I found myself on his website and filling out the Contact Me form about my issues even though I thought there was no chance I'd get a response.  He writes me back a personalized e-mail addressing my specific concerns with like a 4 short paragraphs long email of some advice and directions on how to meditate with tinnitus.  It really helped me out.  Dude was super popular with so many better things to do, and he took time out of his day to write a comprehensive private e-mail to help a complete stranger. Not going to forget that.

A lot of it has to do with finding the right type/method that works for you. It took my like 20 years-ish of intermittent looking to make it work for me.

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Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 15, 2018, 06:06:07 AM
I don't disapproves of Sam Harris. I just far prefer to talk about ladyboys.
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: TVC15 on September 15, 2018, 04:07:54 PM
I don't disapproves of Sam Harris. I just far prefer to talk about ladyboys.

This isn’t exactly right, but it’s as close as you’re going to get to Golden Girl ladyboys.

https://youtu.be/Z7U5zUJGu9Y
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: mormapope on September 15, 2018, 05:17:31 PM
I used to watch a fuck ton of trans/ladyboy porn, preferably guys fucking trans people silly. My first wank was actually to ladyboy porn.

I don't objectify trans people and often feel a lot of empathy for a terrible pain and anger that exists, but one Ive never felt, can't fully understand.

Based on my fling with a transitioning person, my unabashed feeling:

"What I see and feel is a woman's soul, but what I ate, was a boy's hole."

Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Assimilate on September 15, 2018, 06:44:27 PM
 :oreilly
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: mormapope on September 15, 2018, 06:59:33 PM
:oreilly

Best head I've gotten too

 :aah
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Himu on September 15, 2018, 07:18:34 PM
:oreilly

Best head I've gotten too

 :aah

:jawalrus
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: FatRiker on September 15, 2018, 08:36:22 PM
:oreilly

Best head I've gotten too

 :aah

:jawalrus
:ryker
Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on September 15, 2018, 08:37:22 PM
:oreilly

Best head I've gotten too

 :aah

:jawalrus
:ryker

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Title: Re: Sam Harris
Post by: Leadbelly on September 18, 2018, 08:38:11 PM
Sam Harris and Daddy P in the same room together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aALsFhZKg-Q

I feel like he does that gesture with his hands and a fire lights in front of him. He then claps his hands and servants come out with wine and cooked pig. It doesn't happen, but it gives me the impression it does.