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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Tripon on April 16, 2019, 02:16:32 PM

Title: Lexus made a luxury minivan - Toyota forced BMW to make them a Sports Car
Post by: Tripon on April 16, 2019, 02:16:32 PM
https://lexusenthusiast.com/2019/04/15/introducing-the-lexus-lm-luxury-minivan/

(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-minivan.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-interior.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-interior-birdseye.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-side.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-rear.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-seats.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-interior-reclining.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-interior-business.jpg)

This is based on the Toyota Alphard, which is also a luxury minivan in its own right, but not sold outside of Japan.   
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: agrajag on April 16, 2019, 02:19:29 PM
I can't stand the newer Lexus designs with the gigantic front grille.

 :rage
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on April 16, 2019, 02:23:29 PM
I can't stand the newer Lexus designs with the gigantic front grille.

 :rage

This one is particularly ugly. I want to see the grille on the Hybrid version because there would be no reason for it and would actually hurt air flow (and effect MPG) if the grille is so large.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Himu on April 16, 2019, 02:37:22 PM
Is lexus even a status symbol anymore?
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on April 16, 2019, 02:45:28 PM
Is lexus even a status symbol anymore?

Yes.

Buick, Acura, and Infinity are considered the premium brand. Lexus is considered above that.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 03:04:19 PM
Who is that thing for?

I don‘t want to drive that thing because it is hideous.

Sure, it looks like it’s comfortable in the back, but if I had a chauffeur, I for sure wouldn’t buy a rebranded Toyota. And it‘s still hideous.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: agrajag on April 16, 2019, 03:13:53 PM
Who is that thing for?

I don‘t want to drive that thing because it is hideous.

Sure, it looks like it’s comfortable in the back, but if I had a chauffeur, I for sure wouldn’t buy a rebranded Toyota. And it‘s still hideous.

Ya ya, Deutsche das gut automobile. Lasst uns fahrt nieder das Autobahn in unserer Mercedes Tourenwagen, mein führer.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 03:18:07 PM
I recently told a friend of mine to buy a Kia because you get more for your money and they have  a better warranty and reliability. :stahp

I am currently facing treason charges.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: agrajag on April 16, 2019, 03:22:04 PM
I recently told a friend of mine to buy a Kia because you get more for your money and they have  a better warranty and reliability. :stahp

I am currently facing treason charges.

True story, the Benz has been my dream car brand since early childhood. Then my sister bought a pre-owned E320 and it was a lemon. I don't enjoy their newer designs that much though.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: agrajag on April 16, 2019, 03:24:15 PM
But where would you poop?

the car comes equipped with a poop propulsion system that tosses your poo at the peasants outside.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 03:31:26 PM
I love the new Mercedes CLA, it‘s beautiful :tocry

My lease for my current car expires soonish and it‘s currently my favorite.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: agrajag on April 16, 2019, 03:38:46 PM
The original CLS made me feel all types of ways
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 03:50:11 PM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LFPvCHB5zsM

When she starts the engine. :noah
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 03:52:58 PM
Can we make this the official bire car thread?
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: agrajag on April 16, 2019, 03:53:26 PM
there already is one, it's just dead
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on April 16, 2019, 04:07:20 PM
So this shit propulsion system, is it like a catapult or a hose? I've tried looking for details on their site but couldn't find anything.

Quote
The Lexus LM will be offered in two models (LM 350 and LM 300h) and two drive types (front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive). Availability will vary by market. The LM 350 uses a 3.5-liter DOHC petrol engine and LM 300h leverages the 2.5-liter Atkinson four-cylinder engine and hybrid system.

If you're asking for the transmission system, Lexus uses CVTs for their hybrids and most of their automatics right now.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: agrajag on April 16, 2019, 04:07:47 PM
So this shit propulsion system, is it like a catapult or a hose? I've tried looking for details on their site but couldn't find anything.

I'm afraid I was full of shit when I wrote that.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: agrajag on April 16, 2019, 04:13:21 PM
I did want to make a supercar/hypercar thread, but I was worried no one but me and Leadbelly would post in it. And he's barely ever posting.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 04:20:43 PM
I changed my mind on this car, you could play vidya and jack off while parking without having to resort to the vita  and nobody would call the cops.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on April 16, 2019, 04:43:50 PM
I changed my mind on this car, you could play vidya and jack off while parking without having to resort to the vita  and nobody would call the cops.

See, you don't need the right badge for that.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: tiesto on April 16, 2019, 04:59:10 PM
Is lexus even a status symbol anymore?

Yes.

Buick, Acura, and Infinity are considered the premium brand. Lexus is considered above that.

You just reminded me of the time I dated a Chinese golddigger girl and she was like "Acura... it's not quite a Lexus but it's pretty nice".  :-\
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 16, 2019, 05:02:22 PM
Is lexus even a status symbol anymore?

Lexus is just a push toyota now
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Akala on April 16, 2019, 05:04:33 PM
Lexus thing is stupid but I’d be ok with my Uberx pulling up in. Put the fkn screen up mr. ‘known for good conversation.’

Actually looks like an ok chauffeur vehicle.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 05:09:56 PM
Is lexus even a status symbol anymore?

Yes.

Buick, Acura, and Infinity are considered the premium brand. Lexus is considered above that.

You just reminded me of the time I dated a Chinese golddigger girl and she was like "Acura... it's not quite a Lexus but it's pretty nice".  :-\

The reaction to a Lexus here is like.
- So you didn’t have enough money for a Mercedes or BMW?

Foreign luxury cars are just super rare.

Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 05:20:46 PM
Brehs,which car would you go for?
Audi S3 Sedan
BMW M2
Mercedes AMG CLA 35
Kia Stinger. (That one wasn‘t on my radar but I saw it at a Kia dealership and liked it a lot)


Any other ideas for cars with.more than 300hp under 50k?
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 16, 2019, 05:25:49 PM
Buy an ev and dont be a loser

1. Better for the planet
2. Pull of at the lights like a boss and leave ice virgins choking on their own fumes
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 16, 2019, 05:38:18 PM
Seriously though just get a tesla kenny.

Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 05:38:27 PM
That is supposed to be my car to have fun driving around in and  it’s just practical enough to put a child seat in there.
My wife drives the family car and only for that would I consider a hybrid.
The infrastructure for electric cars just isn’t there in Germany. And the car makers will fight that it won’t improve in the near future IMO.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 05:39:39 PM
Seriously though just get a tesla kenny.

500km effective range. Probably less than that under real conditions. :stahp

And the sound. :fbm
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: agrajag on April 16, 2019, 05:44:54 PM
do you drive more than 500km in a day?
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on April 16, 2019, 05:48:02 PM
Brehs,which car would you go for?
Audi S3 Sedan
BMW M2
Mercedes AMG CLA 35
Kia Stinger. (That one wasn‘t on my radar but I saw it at a Kia dealership and liked it a lot)


Any other ideas for cars with.more than 300hp under 50k?

If you are interested in the Kia Stinger, I'd look at the Genesis G70. It's a smaller car, but the interior is nicer, and it's in a sedan/saloon form vs. the liftback the Stinger has.

Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 16, 2019, 05:48:07 PM
Thats some weak arguments kenny. Really. I mean u charge at home and thats 99% of your driving there.

Unless you drive more then 500km often its a total non issue.

If id lived in Germany id have a tesla, alas due to dania
sh prices I paid 40k for a hybrid  :doge
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 05:51:10 PM
No, but sometimes I visit relatives in Poland and that‘s a 1200km road trip. I enjoy being on the road that long, so having to find a charging station and having to wait sucks.
And sometimes I want to drive more than 500km when I want to spend a weekend at the beach or do some hiking or mountainbiking.


And I‘m super OCD  about the sound of the car. That’s why I don’t really consider  an electric car.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: brawndolicious on April 16, 2019, 05:52:35 PM
I believe this car is only meant for Asian markets. There is a much bigger emphasis on rear seats in China, I'm guessing because if you can afford a foreign car there then you're rich enough to hire a driver.

And I guess they take more fashion risks over there too. To me, it just looks like a whale with braces.

Is lexus even a status symbol anymore?

Lexus is just a push toyota now

This is actually a rebadge of the Toyota Alphard.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: CatsCatsCats on April 16, 2019, 05:53:56 PM
Custom sprinter > this
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 05:57:56 PM
Genesis G70 looks nice, looking forward to test drive that one.


I love shopping for cars, I spend entire weekends at car dealerships.  :doge
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on April 16, 2019, 07:44:02 PM
Genesis G70 looks nice, looking forward to test drive that one.


I love shopping for cars, I spend entire weekends at car dealerships.  :doge

Is there a reason why you aren't going for a wagon/estate?

Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 16, 2019, 07:46:16 PM
We already own one.  :doge

And this should just be a fun car to drive with the bare minimum of practicability. I want at least 300 HP and then it gets pricey for bigger cars.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: chronovore on April 16, 2019, 10:24:33 PM
https://lexusenthusiast.com/2019/04/15/introducing-the-lexus-lm-luxury-minivan/

(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-minivan.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-interior.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-interior-birdseye.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-side.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-rear.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-seats.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-interior-reclining.jpg)
(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-interior-business.jpg)

This is based on the Toyota Alphard, which is also a luxury minivan in its own right, but not sold outside of Japan.

The taxi that helped me during my move to a new apartment two weeks ago was an Alphard. That was a seriously sweet ride.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: thisismyusername on April 16, 2019, 11:34:52 PM
Who is that thing for?

Uber drivers, I guess.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2019, 12:36:01 AM
This is actually a rebadge of the Toyota Alphard.

Wow I googled it and wow, its really just a rebadge, not even juat based on like other cars in the lexus toyota family.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on April 17, 2019, 12:53:16 AM
No, but sometimes I visit relatives in Poland and that‘s a 1200km road trip. I enjoy being on the road that long, so having to find a charging station and having to wait sucks.
And sometimes I want to drive more than 500km when I want to spend a weekend at the beach or do some hiking or mountainbiking.


And I‘m super OCD  about the sound of the car. That’s why I don’t really consider  an electric car.

Fair play Kenny :)

I also have ti drive 1200km to see family in Poland sometimes, but Im ocd about the enviroment instead of sound, so a few breaks along the way are a small price to pay. Also I think the hum and silence of an ev is sexy.

For me the reason why I didnt buy an ev last time is because they didn't have towing capacity in my 40k price range. Luckily that is now changing and cara like the Niro E will have towing capacity.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: team filler on April 17, 2019, 12:55:09 AM
a van that only seats four people  :lol :lol :lol

this a tall ass car  :lol
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on April 17, 2019, 01:16:26 AM
a van that only seats four people  :lol :lol :lol

this a tall ass car  :lol

That's the 4 seat option, there's a tradtional 7 seat option for families that. The 4 seater is for chauffeuring around rich people.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on April 17, 2019, 08:31:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQdZ2jOX1Ag
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on April 18, 2019, 03:36:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndMrg2ayLbo

That infotainment screen.  :lol
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Raist on April 18, 2019, 03:45:39 PM
Where's the minivan. I only see a shoe box in the OP.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: HardcoreRetro on April 19, 2019, 04:26:31 AM
More like a luxury garbage can.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on April 21, 2019, 03:27:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tli90d0ftUM
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: agrajag on April 21, 2019, 03:30:51 PM
apparently it was created for the emerging Chinese luxury vehicle market
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: BisMarckie on April 27, 2019, 03:02:38 PM
No, but sometimes I visit relatives in Poland and that‘s a 1200km road trip. I enjoy being on the road that long, so having to find a charging station and having to wait sucks.
And sometimes I want to drive more than 500km when I want to spend a weekend at the beach or do some hiking or mountainbiking.


And I‘m super OCD  about the sound of the car. That’s why I don’t really consider  an electric car.



Fair play Kenny :)

I also have ti drive 1200km to see family in Poland sometimes, but Im ocd about the enviroment instead of sound, so a few breaks along the way are a small price to pay. Also I think the hum and silence of an ev is sexy.

For me the reason why I didnt buy an ev last time is because they didn't have towing capacity in my 40k price range. Luckily that is now changing and cara like the Niro E will have towing capacity.

Why didn’t you go for LPG?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7IcyFoH-4Q
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on May 14, 2019, 10:31:55 PM
Reviews of the new Toyota Supra are out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3koIQeuqrxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE8rWXXBuMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv2cw938jv0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dqfynTr6XY&t=64s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oC8cvUb0kI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMJHILJsGLM
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: agrajag on May 16, 2019, 08:15:07 AM
that's not a minivan
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Akala on May 16, 2019, 08:53:58 AM
how are toyota's current designs somehow even trashier than they were in the 90's?
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Coax on May 16, 2019, 09:35:28 AM
The chintzy analog clock might be the aspect that disturbs me the most.
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: bork on May 16, 2019, 09:35:43 AM
how are toyota's current designs somehow even trashier than they were in the 90's?

(https://lexusenthusiast.com/images/weblog/19-04-15-lexus-lm-minivan.jpg)

"The design we went for here is 'angry fish'."
:snob
Title: Re: Lexus made a luxury minivan
Post by: Tripon on May 18, 2019, 02:54:28 AM
that's not a minivan

A sports car is like a minivan for just one person.