THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on April 17, 2019, 04:47:35 PM
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Are you in or are you in?
https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/17/18411510/samsung-galaxy-fold-broken-screen-debris-dust-hinge-flexible-bulge
https://mobile.twitter.com/stevekovach/status/1118571414934753280
https://mobile.twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1118580472576118787
https://mobile.twitter.com/robotodd/status/1118574478009626624
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>$2000
>Can't even be assed to quality check before pre-orders.
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Did the Chinese copy it with the same flaw or is theirs better?
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Buy a new piece of tech on Day 1, brehs. :neogaf
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Buy a new piece of tech on Day 1, brehs. :neogaf
My MiniDisc player is still working.:hmph
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I am not in. I've been using my S8+ for like two or three years and it's still going strong.
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do people really want foldable phones?
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do people really want foldable phones?
Do you expect people to carry a phone and tablet at the same time?
:girlaff :girlaff :girlaff
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Do not remove this crappy layer which is already sort of poorly glued onto your phone plz.
https://twitter.com/askdes/status/1118596295185141760 (https://twitter.com/askdes/status/1118596295185141760)
https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1118575264026333185 (https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1118575264026333185)
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do people really want foldable phones?
Prob the same people who carry their switch in cargo short pockets 🤢🤢
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Do not remove this crappy layer which is already sort of poorly glued onto your phone plz.
https://twitter.com/askdes/status/1118596295185141760 (https://twitter.com/askdes/status/1118596295185141760)
https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1118575264026333185 (https://twitter.com/markgurman/status/1118575264026333185)
YIKES.
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You'd think Samsung would be doubly careful to quality test every phone they release. I guess it could have been worse, it only affects a very niche product & early technology, but still... Was it worth it to be able to claim to be the first to bring that innovation to release ?
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Pretty poor from Samsung. Obviously rushed out to market to compete with the Chinese contraptions.
However, all these tech journalists who don't read basic instructions...
:dsp
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We recently unveiled a completely new mobile category: a smartphone using multiple new technologies and materials to create a display that is flexible enough to fold. We are encouraged by the excitement around the Galaxy Fold.
While many reviewers shared with us the vast potential they see, some also showed us how the device needs further improvements that could ensure the best possible user experience.
To fully evaluate this feedback and run further internal tests, we have decided to delay the release of the Galaxy Fold. We plan to announce the release date in the coming weeks.
Initial findings from the inspection of reported issues on the display showed that they could be associated with impact on the top and bottom exposed areas of the hinge. There was also an instance where substances found inside the device affected the display performance.
We will take measures to strengthen the display protection. We will also enhance the guidance on care and use of the display including the protective layer so that our customers get the most out of their Galaxy Fold.
We value the trust our customers place in us and they are always our top priority. Samsung is committed to working closely with customers and partners to move the industry forward. We want to thank them for their patience and understanding.
:girlaff :crowdlaff
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Galaxy Pass
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More like Samsung Galaxy Fault.
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:noooo :noooo :noooo
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Samsung is Still Trying to Fix the Galaxy Fold, Asks if People Want to Keep Pre-Orders (https://www.droid-life.com/2019/05/06/samsung-is-still-trying-to-fix-the-galaxy-fold-asks-if-people-want-to-keep-pre-orders/)
Meanwhile the entire world kinda forgot about the phone in general :lol
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So what happens when a grain of sand gets in between the screens when you fold the phone? Is the material really really scratch resistant?
My current phone has a gorilla glass screen, and in addition I am using a tempered glass screen protector - mainly to protect the screen in case of a drop*, but it's also nearly impossible to scratch. I am not aware of any plastic that's as resilient.
*Accidentally tested when I handed a previous phone to someone and they dropped it (on a stone floor): The tempered glass protector cracked, but the phone's screen survived undamaged.
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Well eventually with Gen 2 or 3, they'll notice that the bendy hinge part is always getting fucked up because there's no tempered/gorilla glass on it so they might protect it mechanically using a divider of some sort or even black it out at all times.
It's not a bezel though, still one screen. Because it's just better that way.
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Im not donm for this. Not really foldable if you can only fold it once and one way. Cant fold it the other way, cant double fold
screw this early access crap
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i'm still not seeing a useful purpose for a folding phone. i guess neither is samsung :lol
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But it also means you can't hold it with one hand and it's awkward to use as a camera.
Maybe they should add a third screen in the front so you can use it like a regular phone while it's closed.
(I am half joking. But it's probably going to happen sooner or later when they need a reason for you to buy yet another super expensive phone despite your old one still being perfectly fine.)
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Maybe they should add a third screen in the front so you can use it like a regular phone while it's closed.
...it has one...
Oops. I only ever looked at the photos posted in the links in the opening post.
Well, they should have saved that for gen 2 ;)
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Maybe they should add a third screen in the front so you can use it like a regular phone while it's closed.
...it has one...
:dead
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It doubles the upper limit of how wide your device can be without sacrificing pocket placement.
Yeah I think it's happening. I don't have a tablet and doesn't want one but I'd certainly consider a phone giving me the option of more screen estate when needed. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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By the way, simple way to prevent scratching the folded screen: give it a slightly elevated outer rim so the two halves don't touch (or maybe just a rim on one side). Of course it wouldn't look quite as cool then.
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The Huawei has its screen on the outside. They probably just said fuck it, who cares, but I'd be curious to know if they have a solution.
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The solution is a clamshell phone with two screens, and then you have a tiny strip of a screen that pops out like a stylus which the user manually places across the gap and it gets its display data from local wireless with the phone
bam, one contiguous image
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Everything about folding screens sounds annoying and lame. Like a tech nerds idea of what’s cool.
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So this is the Switch of smartphones (portable with expanded functionaliyy, self harm)?
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By the way, simple way to prevent scratching the folded screen: give it a slightly elevated outer rim so the two halves don't touch (or maybe just a rim on one side). Of course it wouldn't look quite as cool then.
Lol. Ok, this has to be a gag.
Yeah, I was trying to be funny after the embarrassment that was my previous post.
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https://9to5google.com/2019/05/24/galaxy-fold-best-buy-orders-canceled/
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https://9to5google.com/2019/05/24/galaxy-fold-best-buy-orders-canceled/
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:trumps
Samsung: Not even once.
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Galaxy Fold reportedly not arriving in July, ‘nothing has progressed’ since April (https://9to5google.com/2019/06/14/galaxy-fold-july-launch-denied/)
Was this the plan all along :doge
Just so they could claim to be first :doge
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https://9to5google.com/2019/09/03/samsung-foldable-flip-phone-report/
Their next foldable is flip-phone form factor. :thinking
The original Fold is supposedly finally launching sometime this month. :doge
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Why take a good phone and make it all, like, shitty?
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Better batteries are too far out. Processing power is sufficient as is. Screens and cameras presumably are as well (not sure).
They still want to sell phones at the same pace though, so in come the gimmicks. Any distinguishing feature will do.
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Yup.
Camera tech is improving but the only consumer-facing changes, really, will be in software like Google is doing.
Processing power is fine even in $200-300 phones now, it's RAM and type of flash storage that's more the bottleneck these days.
Battery tech isn't as dire as I believed, and power mitigation in chipsets is insane these days, but yeah, no big jumps there for a while (if ever.) Just steady progress.
Gimmicks have always been Samsung's bread and butter, they always like being first or close to it on things, but their track record on innovations is hit and miss. I'm glad the kinks are getting ironed out before the tech potentially makes its way to, say, the Pixel line.
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https://9to5google.com/2019/09/03/samsung-foldable-flip-phone-report/
Their next foldable is flip-phone form factor. :thinking
...So they just made... an elongated phone...
Better batteries are too far out.
I just want batteries that don't "die"/flat-out after a certain amount of charge cycles. That's the final fucking frontier for me. 2-hour battery life? But I don't need to buy another fucking battery ever? Sure, sign me up. At least then I know that shit isn't going to die at 30 mins a year later.
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There is a way better kind of battery that has 20x as many charge cycles, is solid state, can be charged in minutes, and has higher capacity, doesn't require any rare metal such as lithium: the Glass Battery. Invented by the same man whose inventions led to the development of the Li-Ion battery.
Unfortunately it's not ready yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_battery
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The phone has been released.
Hilarious:
(https://abload.de/img/7ligbluyiffqlo3kiivsldbk9p.jpg)
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"Use in a class 1 cleanroom."
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>Keep away from dust.
>Dust already on screen.
What did Flopsung mean by this?
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The JerryRigEverything durability test is really something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZBk_Hb-X0w
That sand sound :kobeyuck
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That vid goes into BDSM ASMR with a quickness :noah
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Initial impression is this is the future. I love the look of it but obviously it's not worth getting unless one has fuck you money. Would be way more impressive than some blingy BS.
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Wow, this phone is trash.
5 years ago, Samsung released the Galaxy S5:
Waterproof
MicroSD slot
Headphone jack
Gorilla glass screen
User replaceable battery
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Initial impression is this is the future. I love the look of it but obviously it's not worth getting unless one has fuck you money. Would be way more impressive than some blingy BS.
No, this is the future.
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/zPVBKNxpeYvWCJlk2PKNMNTNO1Q=/0x0:1024x768/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:1024x768):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19227749/Mi_MIX_Alpha_06_1024x768.jpg)
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/9/24/20881378/xiaomi-mi-mix-alpha-announced-wrap-around-screen
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That ones pretty cool but kind of gimmicky? I was hoping it was a wraparound screen that would unwrap or something but seems like its aesthetic only, whereas the fold would actually be functional. Fold seems like it could be awesome for web browsing, productivity, (some) video, possibly dedicated games, etc.
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Wrap-around makes sense: You can have the notification bar on the side like the image shows and then "pull-down"/swipe it to get full notifications.
This is an answer looking for a problem. Anyone wanting a tablet will get a tablet. Anyone wanting a phone will get a phone. Anyone wanting the two (phone with a tablet-size kinda) will get a Phablet. Anyone wanting more power but convertable will get a convertable like the MS Surface.
Nobody wants a "phone that turns into a tablet" especially one with a bunch of drawbacks like this.
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Folding just seems annoying from a quick hit usability standpoint.
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Did this phone actually come out?
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Nobody wants a "phone that turns into a tablet" especially one with a bunch of drawbacks like this.
I do! I don't want to carry around a phablet AT ALL, not even for the weight, just for the width (not saying I'd even be ok with this one's thickness, who knows). Obviously not this exact model one as it's a frail POS, but this is like a rev 1.0. Assuming the line continues, by the fold 4 or 4 maybe it'll be something worth it. That or apple or some other likely chinese telecom will wade in and take their lunch. It's whatever.
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Then you should accept you're a very small minority. Because I have never heard someone going "you know what this device needs? MORE SCREEN-SPACE VIA A BENDING HINGE!"
Most folks choose their devices by the screen-size they feel fits their needs. This... really doesn't do anything for that.
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Drug lord brother do what Samsung don’t.
https://www.neowin.net/news/brother-of-drug-lord-pablo-escobar-launches-a-349-foldable-smartphone
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Is that actually real? There isn't a single video or photo of the actual screen that's not a mockup.
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Is that actually real? There isn't a single video or photo of the actual screen that's not a mockup.
The store is here.
https://www.escobarinc.com/product/fold1/
Apparently it’s just a branded version of this http://www.royole.com/us/flexpai so you will probably get a phone, it’ll just be a shitty phone.
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That phone cost more than $1,300 in early 2019.
https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/royole-flexpai
"It’s clear the FlexPai has been rushed out to ensure it claims the crown of the world’s first foldable phone. It’s a shame then, that it’ll likely be remembered for its terrible user experience rather than its genuinely interesting foldable design."
And the second model won't be released until next year.
$349 sounds like a scam.
How strange, with a confidence-inspiring name like Escobar.
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https://ww.9to5google.com/2019/12/12/galaxy-fold-sales-million/
@timu :kermit
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1million is pretty soft numbers with how much they were trying to hype this disaster up. :doge
That said, it "beating" (:girlaff ) their sales expectations after revising (500,000) is solid for ending the year with this disaster, so :lucille Good for Her.gif :lucille on Samsung's shit-build-quality still having fans, I guess.
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Yeah the added R&D + manufacturing cost from delaying it at the 11th hour almost certainly means this thing is nowhere near profitable. Still, the sales may convince Samsung their investment has been worth it since they can ameliorate the costs across successive generations.
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It's one of those products that isn't finished yet but no one knows what the "successful" evolutionary path will be so it could all just be a big money bonfire.
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A billion in revenue. Dumb samsung.
:thinking
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LOL guess we're the dopes for actually expecting this thing to have sold.
Samsung has clarified that it has not, in fact, sold 1 million Galaxy Folds, in a statement given to Korea's Yonhap News Agency. Samsung declined to comment on the actual number of units sold, only to say it was not over a million.
Samsung would not even state if estimates of 500,000 units were closer to an accurate figure, perhaps suggesting the real number could even be below analyst expectations. This wouldn't be a surprise, as given the massive delay caused by the phone's faulty design, it's very possible Samsung hasn't even been selling the Fold long enough to reach that number.
As to why a Samsung executive claimed the 1 million figure in the first place, the official line is that Sohn Young may have confused the company's initial internal sales target, which apparently was 1 million units before the phone was delayed.
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slick samsung
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The foldable Razr is the only foldable phone that seems worth having. Only it isn't really for the average consumer because it is way too expensive for what you are getting.
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LOL guess we're the dopes for actually expecting this thing to have sold.
Samsung has clarified that it has not, in fact, sold 1 million Galaxy Folds, in a statement given to Korea's Yonhap News Agency. Samsung declined to comment on the actual number of units sold, only to say it was not over a million.
Samsung would not even state if estimates of 500,000 units were closer to an accurate figure, perhaps suggesting the real number could even be below analyst expectations. This wouldn't be a surprise, as given the massive delay caused by the phone's faulty design, it's very possible Samsung hasn't even been selling the Fold long enough to reach that number.
As to why a Samsung executive claimed the 1 million figure in the first place, the official line is that Sohn Young may have confused the company's initial internal sales target, which apparently was 1 million units before the phone was delayed.
Samsung stay losing.
(http://pxnonline.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/kaz-hirai-sony-1.jpg)