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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Himu on April 27, 2019, 01:09:59 PM

Title: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: Himu on April 27, 2019, 01:09:59 PM: So like, I love guitar music. Of the aforementioned genres it's hard for me to pick a standout favorite. One day I might be listening to James Brown's band, the next I might be listening to BB King or Pink Floyd. Basically, if it has guitars I love it. Post about songs, bands, or albums.

I'll start us off with a goodie.

https://youtu.be/ead0Znba8UI

I feel like I belong in the 70's.
Title: Re: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2019, 06:13:39 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnZzNToI1tE
Title: Re: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2019, 06:17:30 PM: that james brown album you posted from is in my collection and worn out. funky drummer is god like but so is the song you posted
Title: Re: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2019, 06:21:51 PM: tbh this entire recording should be archived and sent to aliens/ future generations.

https://youtu.be/5Wp97BLTX4I
Title: Re: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2019, 06:46:53 PM: Rick James' funk is super, super stripped down though. Although I agree. Him, Brothers Johnson, and Prince.

I was more familiar with Rick James' work than Prince's growing up. No one I knew listened to Prince. I like Prince more now though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORfoK5Ap0FA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpNUqNe0U5g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPbqrHDGfRM
Title: Re: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2019, 07:00:40 PM: Nah. James Brown's funk was notable due to its horns.

Compare Papa's Got A Brand New Bag to uhhhh for example Super Freak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE5D2hJhacU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYHxGBH6o4M

Papa is basic heavy on the guitar but it still has a big reliance on a horn section. Super Freak restricts the funk to almost the bass exclusively. There was even a name for this, it's called naked funk. As in stripped down funk.

It's the complete absence of horns that defines naked funk.

Prince is also famous for this style.

See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp8WL621uGM

Note the reliance on bass and lead guitar on creating the funk. It lacks the horns that defined the previous age of funk.

And remember, James Brown later further defined his funk further in classics like Sex Machine. Notice the horns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UzZUfFUnxY

You could even say naked funk is disco influenced.

Neither is bad. But I definitely prefer the full funk experience of the Brown tradition where the guitar is more of a supplement to the funk rather than the lead. :)
Title: Re: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2019, 07:17:03 PM: It’s interesting that naked funk has a very enduring legacy. These days almost any time someone makes a “funk” song or what they think funk is, it’s almost always naked.

Take Red Bone.

https://youtu.be/Kp7eSUU9oy8

No horns. Very simple chord structure, few changes in the instrumentation. It’s kind of static and doesn’t have much spontaneity to it. Which is more Super Freak than Sex Machine or even Sly Stone’s Thank You Falettinme Be mice self egin.

https://youtu.be/N5BP2KlPD4U

Again, not fighting. Just talking. I could talk about funk music all day tbh.
Title: Re: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2019, 08:49:32 PM: Today is sunny and beautiful after a week of rain and flooding. So while working I threw on some funk. Funk is my main spring, summer, fall music.

I don’t think there’s a better song that defines my preferences in funk.

https://youtu.be/m-yaWMvpeUU

- fat organ/keyboard sound
- that rhythm
- horns
- vocals
- the vocals, guitar, organ, drums, and horns all work together to create a spontaneous sound that leads to unpredictability. The last minute when they change it up is :rejoice You have no idea when the horns will show up and it creates so much texture. And sometimes they’ll even say fuck that guitar and just lead in vocals a change in percussion.
- the use of rhythm guitar as a means of establishing rhythm rather than the sole creation of the funk. It’s just a tool to create the funk. No other genre makes guitar the background character while also making it the main character.

Funk without spontaneous energy is soulless.

Today funk is my favorite genre. Tomorrow it might be rock. God bless :rejoice
Title: Re: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: Himu on May 12, 2019, 09:09:42 PM: What stresses me out when it comes to funk is when those white boys are like,”to play funk you just need a strat and play two and four position” and keep referencing Nile Rodgers as a funk maestro when Chic was disco.

:lol

KILL ME
Title: Re: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 12, 2019, 09:28:25 PM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjKFCYzqq-A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-TZtrJjW54

https://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk

https://youtu.be/3GwjfUFyY6M

:aah :aah :aah
Title: Re: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: HardcoreRetro on May 13, 2019, 07:02:57 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZQxH_8raCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd1gRHk28IE
Title: Re: Classic rock/funk/r&b/soul/blues thread - basically if it has a guitar it's cool
Post by: HardcoreRetro on May 13, 2019, 07:06:13 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKn33-q4Ao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJVpihgwE18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Mvy3E8P2U