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Title: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Himu on May 02, 2019, 09:50:32 AM
Some of mine:

- Classic Castlevania > Igavania. The only Igavania I think is on par with classic Castlevania are SotN and Aria of Sorrow. IgaVania is overrated.

- 3d Zelda (Ocarina) is ultimately better and more realized than 2d Zelda. Of course, 3d Zelda started to neuter itself once Wind Waker came out so there's more better 2d Zelda than 3d, so 2d wins out in the end. But if it comes to OoT vs LttP? In terms of dungeon design? OoT wins.

- Final Fantasy X-2 is a great game. :tocry As much as people rightfully give its story guff, telling an rpg story about what happens after you save the world is legitimately unique. It shows that not everything is going back to sunshine and rainbow farts. X-2 with the fat cut off is a fiercely political game about a war of ideology and the fight for the worlds spirit after a massive paradigm shifting event. Think after WWI. If they had less of the cheese I feel the story would have been far better received. And didn’t revive Tidus of course. The gameplay is also excellent.
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Post by: Svejk on May 02, 2019, 10:20:53 AM
- Skyrim is still one of the greatest RPG's ever made.

- Sega IPs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nintendo IPs
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 02, 2019, 10:36:05 AM
Souls games aren't good
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Post by: BisMarckie on May 02, 2019, 10:58:07 AM
Every console FPS people have this huge reverence for e.g. Goldeneye, Perfect Dark and Metroid Prime are bad games, even mediocre PC FPS of that era like Kingpin were better.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Himu on May 02, 2019, 11:02:33 AM
Metroid prime isn’t an fps. If Metroid Prime is an fps you might as well call The Elder Scrolls fps. Prime is first person adventure. It has an emphasis on levels and exploration more than combat. Same with previous Metroid games. And no, there aren't that many pc first person games with its level design.
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Post by: Joe Molotov on May 02, 2019, 11:08:12 AM
Turn based RPGs are good.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: BisMarckie on May 02, 2019, 11:09:20 AM
It is a first person game in which you shoot stuff.  :doge

Yeah, you do things other than shooting , but this is true for literally 99% of FPS games.
By that definition Half-Life isn‘t a FPS either.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Himu on May 02, 2019, 11:11:54 AM
It is a first person game in which you shoot stuff.  :doge

Yeah, you do things other than shooting , but this is true for literally 99% of FPS games.

That's a pretty wide definition of fps. Prime has lock on.

It's not even trying to be an fps.

With that definition Fallout New Vegas is an fps. After all, you're in first person and shoot stuff. But anyone with a brain knows that shooting isn't its main lure: role playing is. Therefore classifying it as a first person rpg.

By that definition Half-Life isn‘t a FPS either.

Half Life has a far bigger emphasis on combat than Prime. Yes, it has puzzles. But puzzles aren't a side feature in Metroid Prime. It's the main attraction.

I guess Deus Ex is an fps as well. And Portal.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Himu on May 02, 2019, 11:25:02 AM
True. That doesn't change the fact that Metroid Prime has more in common with Zelda than Halo despite the perspective. Anyone who has played it knows that and comparing it to a pc fps is silly.

By definition. Sure, it's an fps. Why anyone would compare Counter strike to it is anyone's guess though.

I mean, once we go down this hole, we could classify the original Metroid games as shooters as well. I mean, they've got shooting in them. So why aren't they classified 2d shooters? Or run and gun like Contra? GTA has shooting in it. Is it considered a TPS? Yet no one in their right mind would compare a third person shooter like, say, Vanquish, with GTA. Consider Metroid Prime an fps all you want but comparing a pc shooter like Counter Strike to Metroid Prime? :gurl
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: bork on May 02, 2019, 12:18:13 PM
Most turn-based JRPGs are boring as hell and far too long.  I always try to go back and see if I can find anything I can get into, and generally just can't.  I would like to play FFX-2, though- with himu bringing that up, I played a whole bunch of FFX back then and only a bit of X-2.  I want to try FFXII as well.  And I will soon- just got them on Switcho.

Bethesda RPGs are all the same unfinished crap that are only fun because you can mod the hell out of them on PC (and on some console iterations).

LttP and Link's Awakening shit all over any 3D Zelda- Still.

Most 3D N64-era Nintendo games weren't that good.

Musou/Warriors games are misunderstood and often passed over as "just simple button mashers with nothing else to offer."

Resident Evil 4 is a much better game, in every way, than the RE games that released before it.

Dino Crisis 2 was a legit awesome action game that deserved a good sequel instead of the franchise-killing garbage that came out on the Xbox.

The same people who shit on other games for being repetitive and the same thing over and over will happily buy Call Of Duty or whatever sports game year after year.

The 'Super' SF2 games don't sound as good as the CPS1 SF2 games do and the announcer/Guile/Sagat voice changes were awful.

Team Ninja got better after Itagaki left.
:itagaki

Aragami is a fantastic homage to the classic Tenchu games and Svejk is out of his mind for not wanting to try it.  :doge
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: paprikastaude on May 02, 2019, 01:52:02 PM
It is a first person game in which you shoot stuff.  :doge

Yeah, you do things other than shooting , but this is true for literally 99% of FPS games.
By that definition Half-Life isn‘t a FPS either.

No one would call the game a shooter if it wasn't first person. It's a shallow categorization born out of being used to first person things overwhelmingly being shooters back in the day. I mean yeah Metroid Prime is bad if you think it tries to be Doom or Halo or something  :hhh
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Post by: D3RANG3D on May 02, 2019, 01:56:52 PM
Skyrim is shite.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Raist on May 02, 2019, 02:24:02 PM
Nintendo has been putting out nothing but tired, derivative trash for the past 20 years.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: HardcoreRetro on May 02, 2019, 02:25:25 PM
Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days is a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: toku on May 02, 2019, 02:46:10 PM
Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days is a masterpiece.

(https://i.imgur.com/2V8N6k3.gif)
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: CatsCatsCats on May 02, 2019, 02:47:06 PM
Monster Hunter suxx
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Himu on May 02, 2019, 03:17:13 PM
Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days is a masterpiece.

Isn't at the one that got Gertsmann fired
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 02, 2019, 03:35:00 PM
The best PS1 RPGs are Star Ocean 2 and Legend of Mana.
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Post by: Svejk on May 02, 2019, 03:39:47 PM
The Persona games blow.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 02, 2019, 03:44:33 PM
Every game you like sucks!
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Svejk on May 02, 2019, 04:03:36 PM
Aragami is a fantastic homage to the classic Tenchu games and Svejk is out of his mind for not wanting to try it.  :doge
:heyman  It's in the backlog...  someday... 
Every game you like sucks!
:beetlejuice
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: The Sceneman on May 02, 2019, 05:33:28 PM
Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days is a masterpiece.

Isn't at the one that got Gertsmann fired

Nah that was Kane & Lynch 1
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: tiesto on May 02, 2019, 05:55:40 PM
Agreed with Classicvania being better than Metroidvania and Star Ocean 2 being one of the best PS1 RPGs.

Last gen was the worst gen since the crash.

Star Ocean 4 was pretty fun and not nearly as bad as everyone says.

Long games aren't necessarily a bad thing, as long as they can keep your interest and not filled with too much padding. Though it's OK for a game to be short (even RPGs)

Mostly linear but with some exploration beats the hell outta directionless open world any day. Level design is king.

Many retro indie games aren't on the same level as the games that inspired them.

Also, insert generic hate of gaas games and microtransactions but I don't think that's an unpopular opinion .
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: headwalk on May 02, 2019, 06:13:18 PM
the thin shaft (lol) and the wide octagonal gate made the N64 analog stick more precise and better suited for 3D games that just about any of the chubby, short throw sticks that have replaced it.

shame it ground itself into oblivion after a week.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: eleuin on May 02, 2019, 06:17:01 PM
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Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: bork on May 02, 2019, 08:22:49 PM
Anyone legit stanning for [corporation name's] console system over the age of 10 is a total fucking moron. 

Oh wait, this is unorthodox opinions.  Never mind!
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Post by: Tasty on May 02, 2019, 08:37:13 PM
Monster Hunter suxx

I think this is more popular than not... :'(
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Trent Dole on May 02, 2019, 08:50:16 PM
My weeby PSO friends like MonHun, cause they're weebs. :uguu
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on May 02, 2019, 09:03:42 PM
Dead space and its sequels is everything wrong about modern horror games. Predictable scares, focus on action, none engaging story that anyone with half a brain has figured out 2 hours in

Cerny is annoying, and not good on a stage.

Black and white is one of the greatest games of all time.

The art style of final fantasy 9 is so fucking repulsive, that it makes it not worth playing.

Vr is the future and if you disagree you are wrong and a grotesquely ugly freak
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: naff on May 02, 2019, 09:10:12 PM
you will all be sucking VR dick by 2025
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 02, 2019, 09:29:37 PM
Nintendo has been putting out nothing but tired, derivative trash for the past 20 years.

fuck youuuuuu
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Momo on May 03, 2019, 12:56:37 AM
Final Fantasy 12 sucks and deserved to bomb
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Himu on May 03, 2019, 12:59:41 AM
Final Fantasy 12 sucks and deserved to bomb

It didn’t bomb.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 03, 2019, 01:25:44 AM
-mmorpgs are not games

-Phantasy Star II and IV are better than any 16 bit Final Fantasy

-ICO is responsible for really terrible trends in gaming, and if you like it you are bad and should feel bad

-handhelds suck

-gaming is trash
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 03, 2019, 01:32:59 AM
Turn based RPGs are good.

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Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: benjipwns on May 03, 2019, 02:41:42 AM
-ICO is responsible for really terrible trends in gaming
I agree
and if you like it you are bad and should feel bad
okay :fbm
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Post by: Raist on May 03, 2019, 03:25:15 AM
Nintendo has been putting out nothing but tired, derivative trash for the past 20 years.

fuck youuuuuu

:umad
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Momo on May 03, 2019, 03:26:54 AM
Final Fantasy 12 sucks and deserved to bomb

It didn’t bomb.
i'm saying it deserved to bomb.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Momo on May 03, 2019, 03:27:56 AM
Nintendo has been putting out nothing but tired, derivative trash for the past 20 years.

fuck youuuuuu
makes sense that you're a nintenyearold, explains a lot.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: headwalk on May 03, 2019, 08:48:42 AM
nintendo consoles are the most egregious form of DRM possible.

denuvo and always online shit is bad, but at least they don't clock your computer back to a decade ago.
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Post by: Don Rumata on May 03, 2019, 11:36:35 AM
Playing games on the Sabbath is not a sin.

fuck youuuuuu
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Post by: D3RANG3D on May 03, 2019, 01:11:00 PM
WildArms 1 PS1 is one of the GOAT.  :snob
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: demi on May 03, 2019, 01:30:41 PM
these are your "unorthodox gaming opinions" ?

that wild arms is a good game?

this is a serious thread right? i didn't accidentally set a redirect to ResetEra or something? check check 1 2 3
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Post by: nachobro on May 03, 2019, 02:12:33 PM
Souls games stink

Ocarina of Time is a boring ugly piece of garbage, as is pretty much ever 3D Zelda that isn't BOTW

Gran Turismo was never good, in fact really the only fantastic racing series is Burnout. Everything else is just passable to good at best

Sony first party studios only release complete shit since the PS3 era and probably before that too (excluding wipeout)

I love open world games but they are the main reason every game is halfassed garbage with just the same mission repeated like 500 times on the map and they probably ruined games forever

Every indie pixel art platformer is garbage

Anyone who gets emotional over epic games store has autism and should bury themselves alive (not actually unorthodox opinion)

Correct MGS Ranking: 4>5>2>3>1>nothing else matters in that series. Even 5 doesn't matter but has the best gameplay.

Capcom will never make another good fighting game
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Post by: Tasty on May 03, 2019, 02:17:04 PM
Mario Galaxy 1 is a better game than Mario Galaxy 2.
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Post by: Rufus on May 03, 2019, 02:17:13 PM
Ocarina of Time is a boring ugly piece of garbage
I tried to play it multiple times. Fell off before reaching the adult Link stage every time. Have yet to try the 3DS remake, maybe that'll click... :shaq2

I love open world games but they are the main reason every game is halfassed garbage with just the same mission repeated like 500 times on the map and they probably ruined games forever
You and your open-world games buying ilk are. :ufup
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Post by: nachobro on May 03, 2019, 02:18:15 PM
I 100%'d AC Brotherhood and loved every minute of it :shaq2 I apologize to all gamers everywhere
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Post by: nachobro on May 03, 2019, 02:26:22 PM
N64 was the worst shit console ever. No one actually bought the other junk like 3DO or Jaguar so they don't count.
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Post by: nachobro on May 03, 2019, 02:38:37 PM
:kobeyuck
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Post by: D3RANG3D on May 03, 2019, 03:04:18 PM
these are your "unorthodox gaming opinions" ?

that wild arms is a good game?

this is a serious thread right? i didn't accidentally set a redirect to ResetEra or something? check check 1 2 3

shittershattered.png
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 03, 2019, 04:15:18 PM
Super Paper Mario is the best Paper Mario game.

The original Halo is a stupidly overrated, mediocre shooter.  Your better option for consoles at the time was Timesplitters 2.

Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force has better death match multiplayer than Quake 3:Arena.

Day of Defeat is still the best WW2 multiplayer shooter, only games that came close where Battlefield 1942/1943.
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Post by: tiesto on May 03, 2019, 04:17:23 PM
Quote from: nachobro
Correct MGS Ranking: 4>5>2>3>1>nothing else matters in that series. Even 5 doesn't matter but has the best gameplay.

Reverse that and you have my MGS ranking. Still have to play Peace Walker and the MSX originals though.
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Post by: Chooky on May 03, 2019, 04:23:53 PM
all of your opinions are shit and you should stop sharing them
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Post by: I'm a Puppy! on May 03, 2019, 05:26:40 PM
Halo? Overrated
Last of Us? WAY overrated
Ico? Overrated

AAA almost always sucks.
Graphics have little to do with a game's quality.

From Software is either lazy or genius. I go back and forth.

(all these emotes and not one hipster one? :shaq2)
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Post by: Himu on May 03, 2019, 05:43:59 PM
Mario Galaxy 1 is a better game than Mario Galaxy 2.

THANK YOU
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Post by: BisMarckie on May 03, 2019, 07:10:30 PM
Halo? Overrated
Last of Us? WAY overrated
Ico? Overrated

AAA almost always sucks.
Graphics have little to do with a game's quality.

From Software is either lazy or genius. I go back and forth.

(all these emotes and not one hipster one? :shaq2)

:bobby

:ufup
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Post by: Nintex on May 03, 2019, 07:26:03 PM
All Spider Man games are jank trash

The Arkham Asylum Rocksteady games weren't that good

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Post by: bork on May 03, 2019, 09:22:37 PM
All Spider Man games are jank trash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8zbtPpDm7c

:ufup

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Naw, this is was a janky-ass beat-em-up.  Never understood why the hell Hawkeye and especially NAMOR were the other two playable characters in a SPIDER-MAN game.  :lol
[close]
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Post by: Momo on May 04, 2019, 05:57:09 AM
N64 was the worst shit console ever. No one actually bought the other junk like 3DO or Jaguar so they don't count.
The N64 controller is only good if you're a three vagina'd person that need a dildo
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: BisMarckie on May 04, 2019, 06:20:30 AM
Mercenaries was the best game of the PS2/GC/Xbox/DC gen.

Too bad though Mercenaries 2 was a way worse game funded and programmed by the CIA.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 04, 2019, 09:48:54 AM
Splitscreen N64 multiplayer [Mario Party, Goldeneye, Diddy Kong Racing, ect.] was more fun than any multiplayer I've played since.
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: BisMarckie on May 04, 2019, 09:54:32 AM
Diddy Kong Racing is a bad game. :hmph
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Post by: Great Rumbler on May 04, 2019, 10:09:54 AM
That is actually an incorrect opinion.
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Post by: paprikastaude on May 04, 2019, 10:10:18 AM
Fixed camera angles are good and make for superior atmosphere if the developers are at least half-talented.

Breath of Fire IV has some of the best writing on PS1 and is totally underrated compared to other hyped up JRPG stories.

Fanboyism is the biggest cancer of videogaming as a hobby and opinions by voluntary single-platform-owners should be entirely ignored.

Saying "nostalgia goggles" is a pathetic and lazy way to dismiss old games in arguments.

Nier 1 has good to occasionally great gameplay as long as you don't do sidequests.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 04, 2019, 01:30:16 PM
Nintendo has been putting out nothing but tired, derivative trash for the past 20 years.

fuck youuuuuu
makes sense that you're a nintenyearold, explains a lot.

literally no one disputes this
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: bork on May 04, 2019, 01:52:24 PM
Splitscreen N64 multiplayer [Mario Party, Goldeneye, Diddy Kong Racing, ect.] was more fun than any multiplayer I've played since.

Goldeneye was the only one I gave a shit about.  I remember that getting dropped for Spawn: In The Demon's Hand on the Dreamcast of all games, but Capcom did a good job with it.

For me, the best was the OG Xbox.  Local multiplayer Halo and Halo 2, where we usually had 6-8 players, was such a blast.  Also had a lot of fun with the Spies Vs. Mercs modes in the Splinter Cell games.  Runner-up was the Game Cube because of PSO1+2, although I remember often conking out and awakening hours later to my friends still all playing- they'd just clear the dungeons and move my character to the exit when done.  :lol
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Post by: Chooky on May 04, 2019, 02:21:57 PM
best multiplayer for me was on pc before the days of xbox live. lots of great games and no universal account systems, drm, whatever. you could load up a game and play all sorts of crazy mods, or troll the shit out of assholes with no repercussions. it was the early days of unregulated internet but in game form. it was glorious.
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Post by: Svejk on May 04, 2019, 02:48:47 PM
I remember that getting dropped for Spawn: In The Demon's Hand on the Dreamcast of all games, but Capcom did a good job with it.
I remember playing that quite excessively at Swap at one point.  :lol 
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Post by: chronovore on May 05, 2019, 02:46:01 AM
Mercenaries was the best game of the PS2/GC/Xbox/DC gen.

Too bad though Mercenaries 2 was a way worse game funded and programmed by the CIA.

It was seriously awesome. It's amazing what they managed to get into the first game. I loved the ability to sneak into an enemy base and surveil using one of their own trucks, only having to keep out an eye for sharp-witted Captain NPCs. I remember blowing up a bridge at one point, and realizing it was going to mess with my ability to traverse the map AND I'd pissed off the Chinese faction, so I reverted to an earlier save, and messed around until I found a way to do it covertly, free from blame, still completing the mission.

Then Mercs 2 comes out and shits the bed. Launches with A-Bugs coming out of its ass, and strapped on co-op gameplay that its networking code is unable to accommodate. Just miserable. I think Sceneman and I had a fair run of it, and I also did some with Sho Nuff. There was a racing mission that broke in co-op if the two players separated too much.  ::)
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: benjipwns on May 05, 2019, 03:01:41 AM
I'm have a feeling a lot or all of the missions break in co-op if you separate too much. One of the friends I played it with, we were driving in the same boat together, he lagged and was rubberbanded back to the spot he was at, left in the water, as I continued racing forward in the boat and it busted because we were too far apart, he was kicked out of the mission. A similar problem occurred when I blew up a building he was standing on, except it didn't blow up in his instance and the game seemed to lose its mind trying to figure out if it was there or not. :lol
Title: Re: Unorthodox gaming opinions
Post by: chronovore on May 05, 2019, 05:03:09 AM
I'm have a feeling a lot or all of the missions break in co-op if you separate too much. One of the friends I played it with, we were driving in the same boat together, he lagged and was rubberbanded back to the spot he was at, left in the water, as I continued racing forward in the boat and it busted because we were too far apart, he was kicked out of the mission. A similar problem occurred when I blew up a building he was standing on, except it didn't blow up in his instance and the game seemed to lose its mind trying to figure out if it was there or not. :lol
Yup, that's the kind of thing we experienced. I'm just saying, if you want to run proximity-limited network code, make sure you don't include mission types which encourage or require a lack of proximity.