THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: 213372bu on July 19, 2019, 09:58:54 PM
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For me they were like kinda mediocre things you put on in the background, and occasionally watch, but it seems like everyone is blowing their load in this huge nostalgia wave.
The local news was reporting "Disney Afternoon" characters on some Ducktales reboot, and I couldn't help but roll my eyes that it was such a big deal.
Lots of commercials lately even use the term "Saturday Morning Cartoon" to describe new products/shows etc. , but it just seems like a cheap, cynical way to rehash absolute bottom-of-the-barrel trashola. As far as vidya goes, there's a million of trashy games on the Switch eshop/Steam that just pander to 30-40 year olds with regressive "let me sit down with my Capri Sun & Lunchables" type marketing... which is weird considering that it's less about nostalgia to the game medium, and more about nostalgia RE: lazy, generic toy companies.
It's also weird that it almost never is inspired by a specific cartoon, but specifically the shitty toy ones that would play.
An example for the sake of the thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtQjGPfkEe8
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Saturday morning cartoons isn't nostalgia for me nor was it a trend. Shit was always awesome. Batman Begins, X-Men TAS, Spider-Man, Reboot, Superman TAS, Pinky and the Brain, Sonic Saturday Morning, Looney Toons, Freakazoid, The Tick;etc. were objectively good. And while they weren't on Saturday, they were on Sunday, shows like Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats were legit too. DBZ was also on Saturdays.
Labeling everything old as "nostalgia" is probably a worse trend.
It's also weird to label people loving Saturday morning cartoons as "recent" or a "trend". Adults in my age bracket have always talked fondly of Saturday morning cartoons. This doesn't mean they had no legitimacy.
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Being fair with modern Ducktales, I saw the pilot and it was much better than the actual animated film of the old show. So at least they are trying unlike stuff like that Commander Keen reboot.
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real talk: with the advent of youtube, i've been able to go back to plenty of shows i grew up with from the 80s and 90s, and i do have to admit that sadly, many have aged pretty badly. bad animation, bad writing, bad plots, etc.
THAT BEING SAID
some series have aged pretty well imo, and the one thing shows from those decades have over pretty much everything post-2000 is their infinitely superior soundtracks and i will fight anyone who says otherwise. :punch
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Saturday Morning RPG came out in 2012.
Blood Dragon series of games has always been about 80's nostalgia. It's 80's nostalgia that's in, not Saturday morning cartoons.
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I remember a fairly recent RE thread on Batman TAS where they went back and watched it and people were confused and shocked to find out it really was ultimately a show for 7 year olds and not the super serious, gritty, dark drama for adults that happened to be animated the internet had convinced them it was.
Eh, still good and the show did got away with a lot of stuff others animated tv show didnt. :yeshrug
Is still a cartoon to sell toys, but it could get dark.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeYN_hyR9YI
:preach
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I remember a fairly recent RE thread on Batman TAS where they went back and watched it and people were confused and shocked to find out it really was ultimately a show for 7 year olds and not the super serious, gritty, dark drama for adults that happened to be animated the internet had convinced them it was.
lol take RE takes seriously brehs
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TGIF > Saturday Morning Cartoons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9qbrHcHaak
:preach :preach
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My Saturdays:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq-_c4UzyW0
:whew
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You're not Wrath
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I liked Saturday morning cartoons when I was a kid, I’m not trying to fuck with them now.
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real talk: with the advent of youtube, i've been able to go back to plenty of shows i grew up with from the 80s and 90s, and i do have to admit that sadly, many have aged pretty badly. bad animation, bad writing, bad plots, etc.
THAT BEING SAID
some series have aged pretty well imo, and the one thing shows from those decades have over pretty much everything post-2000 is their infinitely superior soundtracks and i will fight anyone who says otherwise. :punch
Gargoyles is still great
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real talk: with the advent of youtube, i've been able to go back to plenty of shows i grew up with from the 80s and 90s, and i do have to admit that sadly, many have aged pretty badly. bad animation, bad writing, bad plots, etc.
THAT BEING SAID
some series have aged pretty well imo, and the one thing shows from those decades have over pretty much everything post-2000 is their infinitely superior soundtracks and i will fight anyone who says otherwise. :punch
Gargoyles is still great
right, like i said, some aged good. so did the following (for the most part):
- x-men tas
- batman tas
-superman tas
- fantastic 4 (season 2 only)
- pirates of dark water
- swat kats
-animaniacs
- tiny toons
-freakazoid
-exosquad
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gargoyles was a weekday cartoon iirc but that's splitting hairs
90's cartoons were great, much better than 80's, anime aside
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Saturday morning cartoons isn't nostalgia for me nor was it a trend. Shit was always awesome. Batman Begins, X-Men TAS, Spider-Man, Reboot, Superman TAS, Pinky and the Brain, Sonic Saturday Morning, Looney Toons, Freakazoid, The Tick;etc. were objectively good. And while they weren't on Saturday, they were on Sunday, shows like Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats were legit too. DBZ was also on Saturdays.
Labeling everything old as "nostalgia" is probably a worse trend.
It's also weird to label people loving Saturday morning cartoons as "recent" or a "trend". Adults in my age bracket have always talked fondly of Saturday morning cartoons. This doesn't mean they had no legitimacy.
Didn't have any of these shows on when I was a kid. It was shit like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18e_ID-DpA
My brother and I always looked more forward to Sunday mornings, which in the late 80s had an hour of The Transformers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. This was before the latter blew up and it was weekly for a little while.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbbQb9bEcDQ
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Saturday morning cartoons isn't nostalgia for me nor was it a trend. Shit was always awesome. Batman Begins, X-Men TAS, Spider-Man, Reboot, Superman TAS, Pinky and the Brain, Sonic Saturday Morning, Looney Toons, Freakazoid, The Tick;etc. were objectively good. And while they weren't on Saturday, they were on Sunday, shows like Ren and Stimpy and Rugrats were legit too. DBZ was also on Saturdays.
Labeling everything old as "nostalgia" is probably a worse trend.
It's also weird to label people loving Saturday morning cartoons as "recent" or a "trend". Adults in my age bracket have always talked fondly of Saturday morning cartoons. This doesn't mean they had no legitimacy.
Didn't have any of these shows on when I was a kid. It was shit like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18e_ID-DpA
My brother and I always looked more forward to Sunday mornings, which in the late 80s had an hour of The Transformers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. This was before the latter blew up and it was weekly for a little while.
The 90's cartoons were gdlk.
H-B decided to finally unfuck themselves and compete. :rejoice
2 Stupid Dogs
Dexter's Lab
Swat Katz
Powerpuff Girls
Real Adventures of Johnny Quest
Pirates of Dark Water
:rejoice
WB animaton's new golden age :lawd
Batman TAS
Freakazoid
Superman TAS
Animaniacs
Pinky and the Brain
Tiny Toon Adventures
:rejoice
And then you had Nickelodeon for the coup de grace.
MTV pushes boundaries with stuff like Aeon Flux, Beavis and Butthead, and Daria.
Being a kid in the 90's fucking rocked. :aah
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X-Men: The Animated Series has not aged well. :gurl
There are some omegalul episodes (e.g. "Mojovision"), however.
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WTF AT THAT COMMANDER KEEN VIDEO
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X-Men: Evolution > X-Men: The Animated Series
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvIVKe5hGzY
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i think it's just another branch of this bizarre culture of corporate infantilisation that has been the hallmark of modern pop culture. twitter has basically reduced everyone to baby talk, emojis are hieroglyphics designed for the under 5s, the art style du jour is either oversaturated clash of fortnite cartoon bulbousness or cutesy 2D pixelisation, you can't go five minutes without hearing some plinky ukelele fanfare like you're about to learn how to count to five and every massive movie is now a disney property and painted from the same risk averse family friendly palette.
meanwhile people can sexually weaponise this cutesy culture to sell their literal bathwater to developmentally impaired shut ins who are one bad day away from blowing away a school, because they spent too much time reading about politics on an anime message board.
it is an odd time.
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i think it's just another branch of this bizarre culture of corporate infantilisation that has been the hallmark of modern pop culture. twitter has basically reduced everyone to baby talk, emojis are hieroglyphics designed for the under 5s, the art style du jour is either oversaturated clash of fortnite cartoon bulbousness or cutesy 2D pixelisation, you can't go five minutes without hearing some plinky ukelele fanfare like you're about to learn how to count to five and every massive movie is now a disney property and painted from the same risk averse family friendly palette.
meanwhile people can sexually weaponise this cutesy culture to sell their literal bathwater to developmentally impaired shut ins who are one bad day away from blowing away a school, because they spent too much time reading about politics on an anime message board.
it is an odd time.
It’s called the CalArts style and it looks like utter dogshit. It must suck to be a kid and have to be subjected to that.
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Disney cartoons and the likes were always fun, as was Pokemon as a kid.
Then Dragonball Z came along and it had blood, death, boobs and cool bad guys.
Suddenly the Biker Mice from Mars looked like a bunch of losers.
Now kids have Pewdiepie, toy unboxing and "Spider Man and Elsa bake Avengers cookies" AI/big data regulated content(TM).
The sad part is an entire generation will have Pewdiepie Minecraft or Fortnite nostalgia. :lol
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“My nostalgia is farrr superior to the nostalgia the future kids will have.”
Gtfo of here with that shit.
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X-Men: Evolution > X-Men: The Animated Series
Technically true, but still... :nope
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I didn't know they were making a new Commander Keen... that looks terrible.
But that's the first I've seen of Blazing Chrome and I definitely wanna get it.
i think it's just another branch of this bizarre culture of corporate infantilisation that has been the hallmark of modern pop culture. twitter has basically reduced everyone to baby talk, emojis are hieroglyphics designed for the under 5s, the art style du jour is either oversaturated clash of fortnite cartoon bulbousness or cutesy 2D pixelisation, you can't go five minutes without hearing some plinky ukelele fanfare like you're about to learn how to count to five and every massive movie is now a disney property and painted from the same risk averse family friendly palette.
meanwhile people can sexually weaponise this cutesy culture to sell their literal bathwater to developmentally impaired shut ins who are one bad day away from blowing away a school, because they spent too much time reading about politics on an anime message board.
it is an odd time.
This is Gen Z in a nutshell to me. Also do you have any examples of plinky ukelele fanfare?
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This is Gen Z in a nutshell to me. Also do you have any examples of plinky ukelele fanfare?
this kind of shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzM0qok5Cns