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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 03:19:54 PM

Title: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 03:19:54 PM
i got it, you didn't, you are stuck in the computing stone age

Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 30, 2007, 03:20:33 PM
What's with Microsoft telling everyone we need to buy new computers?

VISTA IS TOO POWERFUL IT NEEDS A 1GB OF RAM, MIGHT AS WELL JUST BUY A NEW PC SORRY
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 03:25:03 PM
I got mine, the box is sexy. Cant wait to spend all night backing up and reformatting for this oh so sexy OS.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 30, 2007, 03:26:39 PM
Viral marketing?
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 03:27:09 PM
XP IS TOO POWERFUL IT NEEDS 128 MB OF RAM, MIGHT AS WELL JUST BUY A NEW PC SORRY

WINDOWS 95 IS TOO POWERFUL IT NEEDS 8 MB OF RAM, MIGHT AS WELL JUST BUY A NEW PC SORRY

get with the times, simps! upgrade upgrade upgrade! you dirty poors :punch

Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 03:30:08 PM
Vista yum
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Cheebs on January 30, 2007, 03:43:16 PM
I REFUSE TO UPGRADE

Unless someone pm's me something awesome, captain jack sparrow awesome.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: OnkelC on January 30, 2007, 03:46:45 PM
(http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/images/pearpc/osx_logo.jpg)

thread saved
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: ToxicAdam on January 30, 2007, 03:55:07 PM
It's important that I can view my pictures in new, prettier ways.

Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Cheebs on January 30, 2007, 03:58:55 PM
My pm box is empty folks
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: APF on January 30, 2007, 04:01:22 PM
lol, beachball of death
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Cheebs on January 30, 2007, 04:01:36 PM
thx shakie  :-*
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on January 30, 2007, 04:07:47 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: brawndolicious on January 30, 2007, 04:09:24 PM
omfg (http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html)
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 04:23:59 PM
Lol, im sure that's objective.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 05:14:51 PM
the only reason not to immediately purchase vista -- i of course recommend the ULTIMATE edition for the ULTIMATE upgrade -- is because you are a dirty stinking poor person, and you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote, much less install the FUTURE on your pc.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 05:15:13 PM
SAVE UP FOR THE ULTIMATE EXPERIENCE!
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: brawndolicious on January 30, 2007, 05:34:38 PM
Yeah, it scares the shit out of me still.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Bacon on January 30, 2007, 06:11:14 PM
the only reason not to immediately purchase vista -- i of course recommend the ULTIMATE edition for the ULTIMATE upgrade -- is because you are a dirty stinking poor person, and you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote, much less install the FUTURE on your pc.

Not convincing.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 06:37:19 PM
i don't expect to convince icky poors; vista is not FOR them
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 30, 2007, 06:41:04 PM
the only reason not to immediately purchase vista -- i of course recommend the ULTIMATE edition for the ULTIMATE upgrade -- is because you are a dirty stinking poor person, and you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote, much less install the FUTURE on your pc.

Sorry duder, even if I was considering upgrading my pc, (and I'm not, the next time I buy anything it will be a mac) I wouldn't get that OS.  Call me back when it's stable in 2 years, you shill.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 30, 2007, 06:43:17 PM
OEM version of Ultimate $299 :-*

I'll probably be getting that one and when I want to switch to a different mobo...just call into Microsoft and tell them my shit broke...so I need to install on a new mobo.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 06:43:46 PM
it's stable now, you nasty poor! our very own maf has ran the second release candidate -- the x64 version, even! -- for months without a hitch!

this is the FUTURE. you can either play in the past with the poors and their wiis or join the MEN OF COMPUTING on the first real significant OS upgrade in the marketplace since windows 2000. (apple's clumsy freebsd gui experiment doesn't count -- does os x even have a viable browser yet?)
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Christopher on January 30, 2007, 06:44:00 PM
why would you need the ultimate version?  for what?
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 06:44:52 PM
to be the ULTIMATE and not a stinky poor
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 06:46:24 PM
even tvc-15, a mac fan among mac fans, will go home tomight and install VISTA ULTIMATE on his quadcore mac pro to truly unleash the hardware's potential!
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 30, 2007, 06:46:49 PM
why would you need the ultimate version?  for what?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/Shogmaster/Vista.gif)

Vista Home Premium would probably be best but I NEED Ultimate for some reason. NEED.

lol at 128GB suported ram lol
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 30, 2007, 06:47:46 PM
it's stable now, you nasty poor! our very own maf has ran the second release candidate -- the x64 version, even! -- for months without a hitch!

this is the FUTURE. you can either play in the past with the poors and their wiis or join the MEN OF COMPUTING on the first real significant OS upgrade in the marketplace since windows 2000. (apple's clumsy freebsd gui experiment doesn't count -- does os x even have a viable browser yet?)

Riiiiiight.  I've heard this shuck and jive before with XP, and didn't buy it then.  Sorry!  Also, you can run firefox on OS X, sucka.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Vizzys on January 30, 2007, 06:48:40 PM
whats with the 4gb ram limitation for 32bit systems?
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 06:49:51 PM
because that's the maximum number of addresses a 32-bit value can uniquely specify (2^32)?
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Mupepe on January 30, 2007, 06:50:17 PM
Holy shit.  128 GB of RAM  Holy shit.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 06:50:30 PM
firefox 2 is a clumsy garage take on internet explorer 7, my friend
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Itch on January 30, 2007, 06:51:17 PM
Why are there so many versions?

Sound like business is the version I would get since I don't know what "bitlocker" and "ultimate extras" are.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 30, 2007, 06:51:59 PM
firefox 2 is a clumsy garage take on internet explorer 7, my friend

I am seriously considering putting your shilling ass on ignore for a week or two for that remark.  Come on now.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Vizzys on January 30, 2007, 07:01:11 PM
because that's the maximum number of addresses a 32-bit value can uniquely specify (2^32)?
ah ok thanks, I was just wondering the reason.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: G The Resurrected on January 30, 2007, 07:51:33 PM
The problem with vista is the drivers for the hardware. The hardware companies have to make new drivers to have some things work with Vista properly. And its really fucking picky about HDD's for some of the features. I've been reading up on the Readyboost which is an awesome new feature for computers. I'm just waiting for flash drives to become internal. Using a flash drive in place of psychical ram is an awesome idea.

I wont be upgrading till i can afford a new pc either desktop or laptop.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 08:33:11 PM
firefox 2 is a clumsy garage take on internet explorer 7, my friend

I am seriously considering putting your shilling ass on ignore for a week or two for that remark.  Come on now.


duuuuude! ie7 cribbed all the features from firefox, and added a) stability; b) more options; and c) a vastly better ui! now buy vista and celebrate technology -- or use be stuck with the browsing equivalent of the wii!
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: demi on January 30, 2007, 08:33:40 PM
IE7 is phenomenal. I love it.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 08:35:26 PM
:bow :bow
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: demi on January 30, 2007, 08:36:10 PM
As a web designer I wholeheartedly appreciate the steps it takes towards compliance. FireFox of course stumbling behind.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 30, 2007, 09:42:59 PM
The only gripe I have with IE7 is that I can't tab over to "Google Search" in one keystroke (it takes two). Funnily enough...thats bout it :lol

It looks pleasing to the eye too, with Aero Glass
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 09:57:36 PM
Im installing vista in a few minutes, omg the box is sexy. It looks future!
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 30, 2007, 10:10:26 PM
i am installing THE FUTURE on my brother's new rig, an overpriced core 2 duo system i just assembled for him. in a few minutes, i shall also begin installing THE FUTURE on my mega pc as well. poors am cry!
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 10:23:50 PM
haha, its great really, RC2 64bit has been splendid since Creative learned how to make SIGNED drivers lololol
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 30, 2007, 10:24:54 PM
I just installed the 32 Bit version and the Creative driver still gave me an unsigned error...but the device installed.

Vista with Sound. It felt like I was using Linux for a lil while there.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 10:25:42 PM
the latest driver should be signed
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: ToxicAdam on January 30, 2007, 10:27:19 PM
Wow, Drinky paid to be a beta tester. Awesome!

 :P
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 30, 2007, 10:28:20 PM
I'm a crackhead, I meant C-Media hurrr :lol Creative seems to be ahead of the group in regards to drivers.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 30, 2007, 10:29:23 PM
Creative was lame for most of the RC phase lol. If an award should go to a hardware manufacturer for driver support its ATi. Their drivers have not only worked, but have improved performance.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 30, 2007, 10:58:31 PM
Battfield 2 Stats Gadget, Digital Clock Gadget, Remote Desktop Gadget and App Launcher Gadget (no more need for the start menu <3)

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5025/bf2gadgetjz0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

OH MY GOD :D :D :D

Here it is with the Stats being shown...

(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3171/bf2gadgetwithstatstq5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Diablos on January 31, 2007, 12:02:19 AM
firefox 2 is a clumsy garage take on internet explorer 7, my friend

Funny, Firefox has been around a lot longer than IE7. IE7 is just a rip off of all the newer features in browsers like Firefox and Opera.

PS - "Dirty poors" will just be pirating your beloved OS, no worries.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 31, 2007, 12:05:25 AM
Diablos: Which he stated earlier in the thread, learn to read dummy. Also IE7 is Firefox done right.

Also:

(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3975/desktopza4.jpg)

YUM
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on January 31, 2007, 12:06:10 AM
I want Vista. :(
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 31, 2007, 12:07:39 AM
:D

I posted it on GAF but heres my current desktop...I love Vista Gadgets!

(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1737/desktopcapturevistale0.jpg)

The Taskbar is on the top (ala OSX) but its hidden away for maximum freedom effect. All I need is the App Launcher Gadget anyways.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Diablos on January 31, 2007, 12:08:14 AM
Diablos: Which he stated earlier in the thread, learn to read dummy. Also IE7 is Firefox done right.
IE7 is a ripoff of Firefox, the greatest browser ever. I will never stop using it.

XP for life. Vista is a ripoff. If you are a serious PC gamer, it has benefits. Otherwise it's not worth it.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Vizzys on January 31, 2007, 12:08:37 AM
mmm transparency...
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Diablos on January 31, 2007, 12:09:02 AM
DX10 ripped to work on XP

:lol

Sell your Vistas, IT'S ALL OVER
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 31, 2007, 12:09:12 AM
remember the first time diablos cried after your unyielding thrusts ruptured his man-hymen like a tomato? vista is like that, except it doesn't snivel for you to cuddle afterwards, and it cleans all the shit off the carpet.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Christopher on January 31, 2007, 12:10:01 AM
BT what is that "water" thing about?
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Diablos on January 31, 2007, 12:10:19 AM
Drinky: That was a bad effort.

So when are the Vista police gonna bust down BT's door and kill everyone inside?
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on January 31, 2007, 12:11:19 AM
Drinky: That was a bad effort.


.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 31, 2007, 12:11:23 AM
Im a serious PC user, I NEED vista so bad and I love it. You are a bitter emo child, Diablos.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 31, 2007, 12:12:11 AM
BT what is that "water" thing about?

Its just different points on the Ying Yang that you point too and it gives you different definitions for each Element. I just put it there cause I think it looks nice :D and the keeping it on an element gives the desktop a sense of personalization.

Drinky: That was a bad effort.

So when are the Vista police gonna bust down BT's door and kill everyone inside?

:lol

I think I'm good for the next 30 days though, trial mode ftw...shit will lock me out though...at the end
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Diablos on January 31, 2007, 12:13:42 AM
Im a serious PC user, I NEED vista so bad and I love it. You are a bitter emo child, Diablos.

Yes, I'm so bitter because I didn't waste $300 on the latest version of Windows. That's even dumber than buying a PS3 at launch with no games. WOW SOLITAIRE WITH AERO.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 31, 2007, 12:15:02 AM
WASTE?! ITS VISTA! UR DUMB!
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Christopher on January 31, 2007, 12:16:20 AM
Playstation 3
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Vizzys on January 31, 2007, 12:16:51 AM
I see no need to switch personally at the moment. Especially after reading this http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/page4.html

Also I'm poor :(
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Diablos on January 31, 2007, 12:19:48 AM
Viz, how ironic --
You're not paying for better game performance, you're paying for POTENTIAL! :lol
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 31, 2007, 12:21:09 AM
Tom's Hardware also benched the 8800 under an X1950XT, despite all OTHER evidence to the contrary

fuck, they've had a hate-on for MS since day one
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: APF on January 31, 2007, 12:21:37 AM
IE7 still has frustrating bugs (quirks?) that no one really cares about since the majority of people will still need to make their sites work in it anyway.  I question its ultimate security over Firefox however, which is a major issue.  Firefox is no champ though, its memory leaking and the random buggyness (in the actual app, ie outside of the rendering engine) many folks experience is a real and valid concern as well.  Basically, there is no good browser (Opera blows in its own ways, so don't give me that), especially for the Mac.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: aoi tsuki on January 31, 2007, 12:23:07 AM
Desktop objects/widgets have always been kinda useless for me. i'm using Konfabulator (okay, Yahoo! Widget Engine) in XP now, and aside from a widget that locates the cheapest gas in town, a couple of eBay widgets, and maybe a weather widget, the other widgets are either superfluous or just handled with other apps, namely Firefox. i really don't care to make my desktop a piece of art because it's either a)covered in windows or b)hidden because my monitor blanks and eventually cuts off after an hour of disuse. No one is around to see my painting of Marilyn Monroe pleasuring herself as wildlife watches anyways, so fuck it.

Oh, and IE had extensions years before Firefox was even a twinkle in a developer's eye. They're called add-ins. i forgot all about those until i read some anti-Firefoxisawsome article.

Now if this Vista torrent would just hurry up...
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Diablos on January 31, 2007, 12:23:56 AM
APF: If it's one thing I'll admit about Firefox, it's that the memory leaking problems need to be addressed, and soon. I did some tweaking in about:config though and it usually doesn't hog much memory now, but it can still get out of hand. Joe User doesn't like to do tweaking, though. Firefox devs need to understand this.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 31, 2007, 12:24:54 AM
don't pirate! MS is watching!
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 31, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
IE7 feels way more solid in its native environment wink winkkkkkk

Its as if it melds into the OS so fantastically. Hasn't been giving me issues at all...though I want an option to copy Object adresses from the right click menu :-\ . Instead of Right Click> Properties> Copy the URL
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: APF on January 31, 2007, 12:41:01 AM
APF: If it's one thing I'll admit about Firefox, it's that the memory leaking problems need to be addressed, and soon. I did some tweaking in about:config though and it usually doesn't hog much memory now, but it can still get out of hand. Joe User doesn't like to do tweaking, though. Firefox devs need to understand this.

You don't even want to know the amount of tabs I have open right now.  Tabs are my life.


spoiler (click to show/hide)
Gotta keep track of all the plate-spinning I'm doing in political threads  :-*
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Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: xnikki118x on January 31, 2007, 12:59:18 AM
Windows XP pro is good enough for me until I get a new PC in a few years or whatever. No Vista here.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: drozmight on January 31, 2007, 04:10:07 AM
Someone buy me a copy.

Viz had promised to buy me Ultimate, but he is backing out of the deal. Even after I held my end of the bargain.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Vizzys on January 31, 2007, 04:11:17 AM
What are you talking about. What bargain?
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Wobedraggled on January 31, 2007, 09:16:58 AM
Ubuntu/Beryl = better stable eye candy for free.

Vista is a bloated mess, with a nice coat of paint, under the hood it's a 76 toronado.

(http://encyclopedia.classicoldsmobile.com/toronado/76.jpg)
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 31, 2007, 09:46:15 AM
lol Ubuntu. Dont be simple.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Wobedraggled on January 31, 2007, 09:49:56 AM
lol Ubuntu. Dont be simple.

If I was simple I'd still be using windows as a primary OS.

Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 31, 2007, 09:53:51 AM
Ubuntu is for distinguished mentally-challenged fellows
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Wobedraggled on January 31, 2007, 09:56:29 AM
Ubuntu is for distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

And you base this awesome statement on what exactly?
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: T-Short on January 31, 2007, 10:00:17 AM
Ubuntu is for distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

And you base this awesome statement on what exactly?


they don't charge money for it. huahua
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Tauntaun on January 31, 2007, 10:25:40 AM
Here it is with the Stats being shown...

(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3171/bf2gadgetwithstatstq5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Dude, u need to work on your skills.  As for Vista I'm definitely waiting for a SP to come out.  XP is fine for me until I upgrade to my next comp, which will be a ways down the road cause I'm a dirty poor right now.  Never trust Microsoft on first release!
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 31, 2007, 10:57:02 AM
Vista is getting great reviews, but almost every great review is recommending people wait for their next PC upgrade. Of course they are speaking to the demographic that purchases the factory made PCs. My PC is built from various parts and fairly powerful, so that recommendation isnt really targeted at me. I BELIEVE MS plans to support and release copies of Windows XP w/SP2 for at least another year, so they are aware a lot of people wont jump on board RIGHT away due in part to the relatively steep hardware requirements.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Tauntaun on January 31, 2007, 11:13:45 AM
I just want Vista and a DX10 card so when Supreme commander comes out I can jizzle my nizzles at it's pure awesomeness.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Jizzle my nizzle translation for whitey: That means blow a load in my pants.
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Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: APF on January 31, 2007, 12:17:34 PM
Hmm...  "Nizzle" means "pants."  *scribbles in notebook*
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 31, 2007, 12:20:09 PM
MAF? You try the Speech Recognition yet?

Its so fucken awesome
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Tauntaun on January 31, 2007, 01:00:46 PM
Hmm...  "Nizzle" means "pants."  *scribbles in notebook*
You get an A+  ;)
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2007, 01:13:50 PM
I'm interested in Vista, since I love Windows, and I'm fine with Windows but I haven't kept up with Vista or it's features. People complained about XP all the time and I had no problems with it. I had ME and it froze on me like every minute, but XP was fast and perfection.

Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Himu on January 31, 2007, 01:16:57 PM
Reading this thread I'm LOVING the additions they've made to the presentation. As someone who is absolutely ocd about managing the start menu and task bar and shit this seems like heaven.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 31, 2007, 01:18:40 PM
Gadgets are like little angels on my desktop. They make me happy

I have a Wiki, Ditionary, Translator and Remote Desktop Gadget at the moment :heartbeat
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Strife Doombringer on January 31, 2007, 01:35:37 PM
ULTIMATE ULTIMATE ULTIMATE GETTING MINE TODAY IT FUCKING ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO BUY IT RIGHT NOW>>BUY BUY BUY
DX10
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: aoi tsuki on January 31, 2007, 11:38:37 PM
Gadgets are like little angels on my desktop. They make me happy

I have a Wiki, Ditionary, Translator and Remote Desktop Gadget at the moment :heartbeat
i take it you never messed with widgets?

Ubuntu is for distinguished mentally-challenged fellows
lol Linux distinguished mentally-challenged fellows maybe. Ironically, an Ubuntu live CD has been the most stable way for me to use my computer as my XP install is hosed. Now if you'll excuse me, i've got to get Vista. Built in torrent handling via the official BT client is pretty snazzy.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 31, 2007, 11:43:26 PM
Gadgets are like little angels on my desktop. They make me happy

I have a Wiki, Dictionary, Translator and Remote Desktop Gadget at the moment :heartbeat
i take it you never messed with widgets?.

Oh I have. I actually used an eMac for a while but the performance on it was ass and couldn't take it anymore (thats when I built out the PC I have now). I loved using OSX and the widgets...I actually would love if Vista used the mouse gesture that allows you to move to the upper right of the desktop and brings your widgets to the front (like in OSX).
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: TVC15 on January 31, 2007, 11:51:35 PM
Speedwise, Vista is MURDERING XP for me.  Then again, I have 4 cores spread across 2 sockets, and coding for that sort of scenario has come a long way since XP began development.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: G The Resurrected on January 31, 2007, 11:53:50 PM
I need someone that has a shit pc (single core, 512mb ram, 5400rpm hdd or similar) to tell me how Vista works with and without speedboost. I'm trying to save someone from spending 350 bucks on shit.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: TVC15 on January 31, 2007, 11:55:10 PM
I need someone that has a shit pc (single core, 512mb ram, 5400rpm hdd or similar) to tell me how Vista works with and without speedboost. I'm trying to save someone from spending 350 bucks on shit.

Tell the person to DL and try this.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 31, 2007, 11:59:58 PM
I need someone that has a shit pc (single core, 512mb ram, 5400rpm hdd or similar) to tell me how Vista works with and without speedboost. I'm trying to save someone from spending 350 bucks on shit.

(http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/2840/vistaperformanceig1.jpg)

Specs

Code: [Select]
CPU: 1.8GHz AMD64 Athlon 3000+ (Venice) (Single Core)
RAM: 1.5GB
HDD: 80GB for Vista
Video Card: XFX 6600GT 128Bit NVIDIA
Sound: Turtle Beach Montego DDL

3.7 is Moderate to Mid-High in accordance to how the scoring system is for this Performance Advisor. I would say the PC with the specs you posted about would be absolute baseline. Even then, you could turn off the Aero effect and go into classic UI mode and could get away with a lower end system.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: G The Resurrected on February 01, 2007, 12:02:39 AM
Yeah already did that TVC it says they can run Vista and they keep going on about the security and how pretty it looks. But its really coming down to them thinking that with Readyboost it acts like psychical ram which to my understanding it doesn't equal. So they think they can use the 512mb of ram to share with in bedded graphics if they get 2gb flash drive.

Thank you blue thats exactly what i was looking for. Now to get them to buy a new pc instead.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: TVC15 on February 01, 2007, 12:11:58 AM
For the record, programs that HAVE to handle a large portion of their own memory management (like Photoshop) won't see any boost with Readyboost since they have to build their own sandbox on every launch anyway.  Well, I'm sure the next version will support it, since it's a much-hyped feature.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 01, 2007, 12:15:12 AM
I have 4.0 cause my proc is only 2.0 ghz, but its 64 bit so f em alllll!

The basic argument even from the positive reviews that people should wait is based on the fact that Vista costs THE SAME as XP installs did on factory PCs, while alone ultimate costs a bit. Most factory pcs will not ship with ultimate, obviously. However it is a pretty sane argument. if youre gonna upgrade ANYWAY....
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: G The Resurrected on February 01, 2007, 12:16:45 AM
Yeah i was very interested in Readyboost myself but then i told my grandfather about it and since he installed that damn Windows program and it said he could run it he's been all gun hoe about getting vista. Especially cause of all the security thats built in unlike XP.

I hope as flash prices continue to drop that its used in the integral workings of the pc as sort of a third option for data. Especially for cache and other such things where it'd be faster and easier to right to that media than say HDD. At least i'm hoping that we'll see that divergence from normal hierarchy of ram and hdd usage. 
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: TVC15 on February 01, 2007, 12:18:45 AM
Oh, I have a feeling we're very near to flash hard drives being available.  I think they have to break the 20 gig barrier before they could be marketed as useful, though.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: G The Resurrected on February 01, 2007, 12:22:31 AM
Oh i know they are coming its just taking its sweet ass time. I really dont want to upgrade till my next laptop has flash drive technology in it. For the simple fact that it's easier on the battery and if all i do is web browse or do stuff in word. It shouldnt be using the hungry power eating HDD.

But your right we need a substantial amount of space. Enough for programs and the OS to be on. 20-40gb range sounds good enough to me. I just wont be happy till its readily used though. Its a small step in the future I hope.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 01, 2007, 12:24:15 AM
Oh, I have a feeling we're very near to flash hard drives being available.  I think they have to break the 20 gig barrier before they could be marketed as useful, though.

From GAF...

Quote from: VicAlpha
Ritek's 16GB and 32GB SSDs starting at a low, low $169 (http://"http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/riteks-16gb-and-32gb-ssds-starting-at-a-low-low-169/")

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/ridata-32gbssd.jpg)

Quote
Well hot damn kids, Ritek just announced that their take on the Solid State Disk (SSD) will begin shipment this year. Impressive enough seeing as how only Samsung (and perhaps TDK) can pull this off currently. But what if we told you that they'll cost your friendly OEM a mere $169 to slip 16GB of that cool RiDATA flash into your swank new laptop? That's right, just $169 for a 1.8-inch 16GB SSD or $199 for the 2.5-inch version. They'll also offer 32GB SSDs at launch (64GB near the end of the year) which we can only assume will be less than twice the cost of the 16GB version when purchased in bulk. That's damn cheap, and likely far less than the $600 premium already quoted for the 1.8-inch 32GB SSD from SanDisk. When? Q2, that's when. Can you wait?

Oh yes, flash hard drives are starting to get cheaper and bigger. It only mean good things!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5293113&postcount=138

:D
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: TVC15 on February 01, 2007, 12:34:32 AM
Very nice.  What interface are these things using?
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 01, 2007, 01:12:57 AM
I'm running Vista with Aero on a Sempron 3300+ laptop (1.9 GHz, 64-bit) with a Radeon X300 Mobile and 1 GB RAM. The performance score is 2.7 for Aero, and it runs smooth as hell.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: aoi tsuki on February 01, 2007, 02:02:10 AM
Oh, I have a feeling we're very near to flash hard drives being available.  I think they have to break the 20 gig barrier before they could be marketed as useful, though.

From GAF...

Quote from: VicAlpha
Ritek's 16GB and 32GB SSDs starting at a low, low $169 (http://"http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/riteks-16gb-and-32gb-ssds-starting-at-a-low-low-169/")

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/ridata-32gbssd.jpg)

Quote
Well hot damn kids, Ritek just announced that their take on the Solid State Disk (SSD) will begin shipment this year. Impressive enough seeing as how only Samsung (and perhaps TDK) can pull this off currently. But what if we told you that they'll cost your friendly OEM a mere $169 to slip 16GB of that cool RiDATA flash into your swank new laptop? That's right, just $169 for a 1.8-inch 16GB SSD or $199 for the 2.5-inch version. They'll also offer 32GB SSDs at launch (64GB near the end of the year) which we can only assume will be less than twice the cost of the 16GB version when purchased in bulk. That's damn cheap, and likely far less than the $600 premium already quoted for the 1.8-inch 32GB SSD from SanDisk. When? Q2, that's when. Can you wait?

Oh yes, flash hard drives are starting to get cheaper and bigger. It only mean good things!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5293113&postcount=138

:D
The problem with the Riteks is that they use a cheaper flash memory (no surprise). After a short number of writes (something like 10,000 IIRC), you've reached the lifetime duty cycle of the card. i've skimmed how ReadyBoost works, and i assume it reaches some happy medium between performance boosting and minimize writes to the flash drive. Those drives aren't meant to handle the types of writes that a virtual memory scheme would place on them.

But yeah, we're on our way to using flash for storage. Didn't Fujitsu or Panny release a laptop with a 32GB flash hard drive a while back?
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 01, 2007, 02:13:46 PM
BUY BUY BUY THE ULTIMATE
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: CajoleJuice on February 01, 2007, 02:25:06 PM
Some kid in my programming class today was complaining about something...I wasn't really listening...but I did hear it was because he had a Mac.

The teacher just said, "Too bad, not my problem."

I then said, "Buy Vista!"

Drinky has brainwashed me.  :P
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Himu on February 01, 2007, 02:31:20 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 01, 2007, 03:27:57 PM
I love MS' whole line of new crap. Office 2007 is fuck awesome, Vista was worth the wait, IE7 stomps Firefox into the dirt and loooooolz all the way home.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Flannel Boy on February 01, 2007, 03:30:38 PM
(http://turboreferer.com/viral-marketing-cover-small.jpg)
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: drozmight on February 01, 2007, 03:34:53 PM
IE7 can lick my balls.

It crashes when I try to watch anymore than two youtube videos at once.



Apparently, I can only explore the internet thusly.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Mupepe on February 01, 2007, 03:38:48 PM
IE7 can lick my balls.

It crashes when I try to watch anymore than two youtube videos at once.



Apparently, I can only explore the internet thusly.
I'm watching 4 youtube videos on IE7 out of spite :p
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: drozmight on February 01, 2007, 03:41:50 PM
IE7 can lick my balls.

It crashes when I try to watch anymore than two youtube videos at once.



Apparently, I can only explore the internet thusly.
I'm watching 4 youtube videos on IE7 out of spite :p

Your saying it's not IE7's fault? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Tauntaun on February 01, 2007, 03:45:12 PM
Firefox is awesome because the fox is like the 9-tails fox demon in Naruto.  Yeah, he's pretty awesome.  It's also got FIRE in the name and I like big explosions cause I like Return of the Jedi.  :)





I'll get Vista eventually but no $ plus Microsoft 1st release = no no.  I have IE7 but have gotten so used to FF that I'll prob never go back.

Edit: Grammar am me yay!
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on February 01, 2007, 03:47:48 PM
I can open multiple youtube videos without a prob on IE7. How about you install better videocard drivers!
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Mupepe on February 01, 2007, 03:55:45 PM
IE7 can lick my balls.

It crashes when I try to watch anymore than two youtube videos at once.



Apparently, I can only explore the internet thusly.
I'm watching 4 youtube videos on IE7 out of spite :p

Your saying it's not IE7's fault? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
No, I kiss your mother!!!   :-[

J/K  I've never had a problem with IE7 though.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: MrAngryFace on February 01, 2007, 04:09:52 PM
Firefox is awesome because the fox is like the 9-tails fox demon in Naruto.  Yeah, he's pretty awesome.  It's also got FIRE in the name and I like big explosions cause I like Return of the Jedi.  :)





I'll get Vista eventually but no $ plus Microsoft 1st release = no no.  I have IE7 but have gotten so used to FF that I'll prob never go back.

Edit: Grammar am me yay!

The 1st release rule can apply to almost anything, but I will say that my experience with Vista in Beta was 90% positive, with the negatives being the fault of hardware manufacturers.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Tauntaun on February 01, 2007, 04:35:42 PM
The 1st release rule can apply to almost anything, but I will say that my experience with Vista in Beta was 90% positive, with the negatives being the fault of hardware manufacturers.

I'm willing to give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt on this one, but for me I'd want Vista with a DX10 card and all the bells and whistles.  Also I have heard of a lot of driver issues with the hardware manufacturers but that should be fixed shortly.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 16, 2007, 01:45:43 AM
If you've got Vista Ultimate...try out Dreamscene that was just released (via Windows Update Ultimate Extras) and get the .Dream files from this site...

http://dream.wincustomize.com/index.aspx?c=1

Its essentially a looping background image (a video really) but some of the nice ones make the background look fucken awesome. It also offloads the decoding completely to the GPU (should be)...so you don't get a hit in Desktop Application performance :D :D :D

Its purely aesthetic...but now we can move away from static desktop picture and have really cool looking background that in full motion.
Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: Shuri on February 16, 2007, 06:29:02 AM
That's seriously  :-*, what makes vista ultimate any special that it can run those 3d wallpapers? That's just lame.


Title: Re: VISTA!!!!!
Post by: BlueTsunami on February 17, 2007, 12:54:59 AM
That's seriously  :-*, what makes vista ultimate any special that it can run those 3d wallpapers? That's just lame.




It has other various things too (that are in the Business Class tiers) but I think its completely pointless for regular Joe home users. Home Premium should suffice.

As far as DreamScape. I'm not exactly sure but I think it may go to Home users eventually. Its probably a limited thing where Ultimate users get it first than Home Premium users get it down the line. You need Aero for it obviously. Its fricken awesome :D