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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Rman on January 08, 2020, 05:14:38 PM

Title: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: Rman on January 08, 2020, 05:14:38 PM
https://www.publicbooks.org/asimovs-empire-asimovs-wall/

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Over the course of many decades, Asimov groped or engaged in other forms of unwanted touching with countless women, often at conventions, but also privately and in the workplace. Within the science fiction community, this is common knowledge, and whenever I bring it up in a room of older fans, the response is usually a series of nods. The number of such incidents is unknown, but it can be plausibly estimated in the hundreds, and thus may match or exceed the long list of books that Asimov wrote.

I'm not mega old like some of you, so I'm surprised. Damned shame. Loved his output.
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: Human Snorenado on January 08, 2020, 05:17:49 PM
Have heroes in 2020, brehs
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Post by: Tripon on January 08, 2020, 05:31:05 PM
4th law of Robotics. Must be allowed to grope, I guess.
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 08, 2020, 05:54:56 PM
TBH I think at some point we just have to say, ya it was OK to be a rapist before 1985.  No one know better back then.   
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: nachobro on January 08, 2020, 05:57:27 PM
knew to keep their mouth shut
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 08, 2020, 06:01:32 PM
TBH I think at some point we just have to say, ya it was OK to be a rapist before 1985.  No one know better back then.   
I think the women knew.

Ya, but they weren't people back then. 
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: Mandark on January 08, 2020, 06:03:44 PM
I was a pretty casual sci-fi reader and I knew this. Can't remember where I got it, but it shows how widespread his reputation was.
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: Rman on January 08, 2020, 06:27:23 PM
I was a pretty casual sci-fi reader and I knew this. Can't remember where I got it, but it shows how widespread his reputation was.
Hasn't this been a big thing with conventions as well?
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: CatsCatsCats on January 08, 2020, 11:33:44 PM
I know the Last Question really touched me :rimshot
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Post by: Joe Molotov on January 08, 2020, 11:37:09 PM
Asim0x
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Post by: Momo on January 08, 2020, 11:43:02 PM
Cant give a fuck about the personal lives of the people who's entertainment I enjoy  :reeeee
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 08, 2020, 11:50:11 PM
Cant give a fuck about the personal lives of the people who's entertainment I enjoy  :reeeee

Can't say I agree crime (molesting in this case) falls under the purview of personal life minor details not to prod into.
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: Momo on January 08, 2020, 11:53:24 PM
Cant give a fuck about the personal lives of the people who's entertainment I enjoy  :reeeee

Can't say I agree crime (molesting in this case) falls under the purview of personal life minor details not to prod into.
When I say I dont give a fuck, I mean I'm not one of those people that will now pretend that his work has always been shit. However this does change how I interpret some of his work as my impression of the author's intent changes
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: OnlyRegret on January 08, 2020, 11:55:21 PM
Okay, so I parse that as the death of the author sorta deal with no retroactive media dis-enjoyment
Understandable
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: team filler on January 09, 2020, 12:03:59 AM
Foundation and Grabass  :rash
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 09, 2020, 08:46:25 AM
Also HP Lovecraft was racist.
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: nachobro on January 09, 2020, 08:47:49 AM
that's too bad. i always felt a bond with lovecraft cause we gave our cats the same name
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Post by: HardcoreRetro on January 09, 2020, 08:55:01 AM
Harlan Ellison the best.

Grabbing Connie Willis' tits at the hugo awards. My hero.
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 09, 2020, 09:00:05 AM
Also HP Lovecraft was racist.

Yes but that was certainly OK before 1937.

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When I first found out about "On the Creation of distinguished black fellows", I was genuinely disappointed that a favorite author of mine was a trash person. 
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Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 09, 2020, 03:53:30 PM
that's too bad. i always felt a bond with lovecraft cause we gave our cats the same name

 :dobbs
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: nachobro on January 09, 2020, 04:02:22 PM
i'm glad someone got that
Title: Re: Asimov was a creep apparently.
Post by: Boredfrom on January 09, 2020, 05:51:17 PM
Oh you guys. Having Heroes...

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Loved his output.

You can still love his work and think he was a pice if shit.  :yeshrug

Edgar Allan Poe was a drunktard that did incest, Jorge Luis Borges was best friends with Pinochet and Alan Moore is a jerk.