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Title: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 14, 2020, 02:45:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkklG9MA0vM

:rock
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 14, 2020, 02:50:46 PM
 :jeb
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Chooky on January 14, 2020, 03:07:26 PM
seeing that evil doomguy show up and all i can feel is pure elation

this game is gonna be fucking ABSURD
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on January 14, 2020, 03:50:06 PM
VERY EXCITED
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 14, 2020, 04:20:48 PM
best game of 2016 gets its sequel :rejoice
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Himu on January 14, 2020, 04:32:42 PM
Does doom have tits in it
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Coax on January 14, 2020, 05:37:05 PM
Revenant Doot skin for pre-orders. Tempting.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Nintex on January 14, 2020, 06:09:29 PM
Hopefully DOOM guy once again takes nothing of the story seriously and just rips and tears everything he sees instead  :lol
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on January 14, 2020, 06:17:50 PM
I feel like a dumbass because I just realised this is doing the Doom 2: Hell on Earth plot  :doge

The first one was a blast, if this one is anything near that it's going to be fucking ace
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: MMaRsu on January 14, 2020, 07:09:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-KIS4Sk76c

preorders for Doom 2 are off the chartz
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: bluemax on January 14, 2020, 09:29:29 PM
I need to go back and finish the first one.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on January 15, 2020, 03:28:53 PM
https://twitter.com/dannyodwyer/status/1217498877625913345

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBHIalb01ew
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on January 15, 2020, 10:29:33 PM
https://twitter.com/dannyodwyer/status/1217498877625913345

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBHIalb01ew
Is this dude the reason the new doom whoops so much ass after rage and quake 4 were duds?
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on January 15, 2020, 10:46:55 PM
yes
Fuck the bit around 20 mins where he talks about how you should design the game so that players have to play it correctly/ie in a fun way instead of doing some boring repetitive way is some shit I always think about.  Like how bayonetta 2 has all this fucking shit you can do but the best way is just to sit back and shoot until you get enough magic for umbran. this dude is smart.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on January 16, 2020, 06:34:41 PM
Yeah I just finished watching it. Pretty interesting doc. Man lucky they saved it because it sounds like the original doom 4 was going to be fucking ass. After watching it though I just really wanna play a lot of doom 2016.

another thing I noticed was where they were talking about the gore and how it's like pretty OTT/violent but because the enemies are funny/cartoony enough you don't give a fuck and it's still fun. that's the diff between this and say MK which kinda makes me 😬 sometimes

The creative process at id atm seems killer
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 16, 2020, 07:24:40 PM
OG Doom 4 was basically just gonna be like Call of Duty with demons.  :kobeyuck
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: nachobro on January 16, 2020, 07:27:15 PM
that video got me even more excited, sounds like exactly what i want. like doom 1 to doom 2, just more of the same and better. he made the combat and movement sound fucking godlike

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/5c670dff7aa19cc0f59f335b6b08b1e7/tenor.gif?itemid=12614903)

but i told myself i wasn't going to buy any more new games until after cyberpunk came out so i guess this will be a steam sale special now :'(
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on January 16, 2020, 08:07:42 PM
yes
Fuck the bit around 20 mins where he talks about how you should design the game so that players have to play it correctly/ie in a fun way instead of doing some boring repetitive way is some shit I always think about.  Like how bayonetta 2 has all this fucking shit you can do but the best way is just to sit back and shoot until you get enough magic for umbran. this dude is smart.

yeah im tempted to uninstall cod to run through this again, if you know me you know thats tough

 :brazilcry
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: nachobro on January 16, 2020, 08:08:48 PM
So you're waiting till September? Shit's gonna be cheap by then.
yep, i needed a push to get to playing my backlog last year and i spend too much on games anyway. i didn't expect the delay to September but i still got a bunch of shit (plus game pass which is like an infinite backlog). doom being cheap in the fall will be the bright side though.

also someone already gifted me half life alyx so that covers the bases for the three big titles i wanted to play this year :lol
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: MMaRsu on January 21, 2020, 10:00:52 AM
https://www.giantbomb.com/shows/doom-eternal/2970-19877
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 21, 2020, 01:35:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ4mLqh7nJg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIkogIe9Qp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV1xrKpzUPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_eCoLFu9d4
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Trent Dole on January 21, 2020, 06:28:44 PM
I'm generally not really a big FPS guy but this looks pretty fuckin' cool.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: MMaRsu on January 22, 2020, 11:03:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttVIdbD7tO8

 ???
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Cryo on January 22, 2020, 02:31:41 PM
is doom 2016 worth playing on the switch or is it a significantly different experience at 60fps with kbm? Resolution and jaggies don’t bother me.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 22, 2020, 02:48:22 PM
is doom 2016 worth playing on the switch or is it a significantly different experience at 60fps with kbm? Resolution and jaggies don’t bother me.

Switch version is actually not bad. It has the obvious downgrades, but is still very playable.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 22, 2020, 03:16:06 PM
Doom is a game I truly do NOT recommend for Switch.  You play that game for its framerate and pace, not for its graphics.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: EchoRin on January 22, 2020, 03:37:59 PM
Doom is a game I truly do NOT recommend for Switch.  You play that game for its framerate and pace, not for its graphics.

I agree with you. I just find it funny you pointed out "... not for graphics" when referring to the Switch though  :lol

https://youtu.be/FkAxD_DX2N8
One thing that makes me go  :doge is that this man always goes on about how "story in fps is a like story in porn" and yet he's kinda splooging over the Doom lore here. If he's being ironic then I didn't pick up on it.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rufus on January 22, 2020, 03:54:19 PM
At least he seems to have retired "sonny jim." 
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 22, 2020, 04:57:37 PM
is doom 2016 worth playing on the switch or is it a significantly different experience at 60fps with kbm? Resolution and jaggies don’t bother me.

The Switch version is perfectly fine if you want to play Doom on the go, but if you're just playing at home go with PC.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on January 22, 2020, 08:52:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkAxD_DX2N8
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: mormapope on January 22, 2020, 10:34:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkAxD_DX2N8

Basically any criticism of Doom 2016 I had has been addressed. Environment variety, the use of colors, lots of enemy types from the get go, double jump and dash from the get go, expanded scope of the lore. There is no time wasted at what gets thrown at you.

I think my biggest beef with Doom 2016 was how the last few levels is when it really picks up for using everything at your disposal. The first few levels are so tame compared to hell and the last stretch.

I enjoyed the hell environments wayyyyy more than any of the space station environments. Doom Eternal looks gothic as fuck at all times, which is what I want more of from Doom.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Nintex on January 28, 2020, 06:06:33 AM
This looks to be what Super Mario Galaxy 2 was to Super Mario Galaxy. All restricions removed, everything in the service of the gameplay. There's even platforms with Mario like red fire bars.  :lol

If they did this right it could be the best shooter.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Tuckers Law on January 28, 2020, 06:18:14 PM
Made perfect sense to me, SMG2 was an incredible experience even compared to the amazing SMG1.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2020, 01:15:44 PM
Quote from: https://www.pcgamer.com/doom-eternal-wont-have-microtransactions-or-an-in-game-store/
"Eternal is a $60 game," Martin said on Facebook, "not a free-to-play game or a mobile game—we are giving u [sic] a complete experience with no store just like you'd expect."

:rejoice
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: MMaRsu on January 30, 2020, 03:00:23 PM
Such a day 1 purchase  :aah
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 30, 2020, 03:05:42 PM
You love to see it.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: MMaRsu on January 31, 2020, 03:12:21 PM
Check out this DOOM 2016 mod for Quake 1

https://youtu.be/owYGxBtq7Io

 :mindblown :mindblown
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 04, 2020, 01:39:00 PM
That's the way a game should start. Just a quick intro, a short tutorial, and then slams you right into a thick, juicy slab of gameplay.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: mormapope on February 04, 2020, 01:41:24 PM
I imagine they took all the best ideas from the original concept of Doom 4 and put them in that intro.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Chooky on February 04, 2020, 08:43:11 PM
reminder that if you preorder this you get doom 64. two great dooms for the price of one
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on February 10, 2020, 10:47:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CeyUE4VC54
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: MMaRsu on February 10, 2020, 10:58:12 AM
Stop watching all this footage and spoiling yourself
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on February 10, 2020, 02:54:57 PM
MMaRsu shut the fuck up
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Joe Molotov on February 10, 2020, 03:10:33 PM
I didn't know you shot demons, way to ruin it.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: nachobro on February 10, 2020, 03:13:44 PM
I didn't know you shot demons, way to ruin it.
No, John. You are the demons
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 10, 2020, 03:27:43 PM
I didn't know you shot demons, way to ruin it.

 :(

They still don’t have the ability to talk to demons after 30 years. Pass.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: MMaRsu on February 10, 2020, 05:23:03 PM
Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me princesses for wanting to be surprised

 :gddr5
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: nachobro on February 10, 2020, 07:11:09 PM
mmarsu don't look



















everyone else...tpain is streaming doom eternal :rejoice
https://www.twitch.tv/tpain

he's pretty terrible at it :lol
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on February 10, 2020, 09:15:52 PM
my conscious brain is with MMRASU- i know i'm gonna like, don't fuukken spoil it.

but my lizard brain keeps watching all these tasty clips  :bernie
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on February 10, 2020, 09:26:41 PM
don't talk badly about yourself like that
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: TEEEPO on February 10, 2020, 09:41:11 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/sxpWN.gif)
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Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 12, 2020, 11:04:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UuktemkCFI
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Akala on March 12, 2020, 11:23:11 AM
 :whew
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on March 12, 2020, 01:06:56 PM
This is really going to come out just about a couple of weeks too late to be relevant for Bernie Sanders Doom Slayer Memes.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rufus on March 12, 2020, 02:42:04 PM
"There is only one dominant life form in this universe and it carries a steel-barreled sword of vengeance."
*metal chugging*

:heart
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 12, 2020, 02:54:25 PM
"Really makes you FEEL like Doom Slayer. 8.8/10" -IGN
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: chronovore on March 13, 2020, 11:24:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc6sZSQjSfw

:rejoice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx55zOYnlEg

:hyper
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Nintex on March 15, 2020, 04:57:28 PM
I need DOOM Eternal now to make it through this social distancing quarantine shit  :existential
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Nintex on March 16, 2020, 06:06:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwEZLukZwXw
 :rogan :bowsette :birb
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: EchoRin on March 17, 2020, 05:32:01 PM
https://youtu.be/18RpqvNbJaI
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: EchoRin on March 17, 2020, 05:35:15 PM
https://youtu.be/vqduGTChT5U
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on March 17, 2020, 06:34:58 PM
https://youtu.be/18RpqvNbJaI

(https://i.imgur.com/94I6cgW.gif)
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Chooky on March 17, 2020, 06:40:56 PM
my order is on indefinite hold from amazon  :'(
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 17, 2020, 08:01:45 PM
my order is on indefinite hold from amazon  :'(

:mjcry
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: The Sceneman on March 17, 2020, 08:43:31 PM
I think this will be the first game I buy on/close to release in a long time. I was LttP on Doom 2016 but it really grew on me. And I want to get online while everyone is still playing.

Best thing about nu-Doom is you just punch a lot of assholes' heads off which is a good concept for a videogame
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Akala on March 17, 2020, 09:06:08 PM
in for PC, preloaded less kill some shit.  :punch
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: MMaRsu on March 18, 2020, 06:50:26 AM
Since this has Denuvo which isnt mentioned anywhere on Steam, ill wait to get it
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on March 18, 2020, 09:05:54 AM
lol
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: MMaRsu on March 18, 2020, 10:40:40 AM
lol

Not a fan of invasive DRM

I am a fan of invasive Demons

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/332b65d88750891026f15621f56299fb/tenor.gif?itemid=8761313)
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on March 18, 2020, 11:32:49 AM
lmao
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 18, 2020, 11:38:36 AM
in for PC, preloaded less kill some shit.  :punch

Just two more days!! :jeb :klob
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Coax on March 18, 2020, 11:53:25 AM
Not a fan of invasive DRM

I am a fan of invasive Demons

Not to bat for DRM but I wouldn't consider Denuvo invasive from a system PoV (not aware of anything bad it does in that sense). Pretty much just periodically checks online activation once every few months but otherwise games can be played offline ime. Can't comment on any performance difference, though will say MGSV which had it ran amazingly well which I attribute mostly to the engine.

(Btw was nice to see the new Wolfensteins and Dishonored series on GOG recently)
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rufus on March 18, 2020, 12:41:29 PM
People claim it impacts performance, but it's either FUD or only relevant to people who play on toasters.

DRM sucks for other reasons, but everyone knows only a minority of people care about preservation, online-requirements, activation limits and whatever, so the above is repeated ad nauseam.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: MMaRsu on March 18, 2020, 01:10:18 PM
Not that I ever had a problem in dealing with it, its just that I dont ever want to deal with it. I am buying a product, pirates shouldnt have a better version than me as a consumer.

Either way I have no issue waiting, it was removed from DOOM 2016 as well.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: BIONIC on March 19, 2020, 05:56:02 PM
https://youtu.be/6bbIBs0P2t0
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 19, 2020, 07:49:24 PM
Unlocks tonight at 12 eastern! :rejoice
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 19, 2020, 07:52:58 PM
don't forget to buy doom 64 as well tomorrow stupid bitches
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on March 19, 2020, 08:22:39 PM
living in australia and getting to play it early :lawd

I stayed up till 3 am last night, resparking the kind of dumb hours i used to sleep as a teen and played the first two levels. In the back of my mind I thought it had a chance to be somehow shit but what i played was fucking great
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Akala on March 19, 2020, 09:14:00 PM
don't forget to buy doom 64 as well tomorrow stupid bitches

as well? it's included with preorders. wouldn't think there is much of a market for D64 that wouldn't want the new one.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 19, 2020, 10:41:19 PM
An hour in...not sure this is the slam dunk I thought it would be.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 19, 2020, 11:38:52 PM
don't forget to buy doom 64 as well tomorrow stupid bitches

as well? it's included with preorders. wouldn't think there is much of a market for D64 that wouldn't want the new one.

Only weirdos preorder games idk
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on March 20, 2020, 12:06:46 AM
An hour in...not sure this is the slam dunk I thought it would be.
lol how
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 20, 2020, 12:20:14 AM
Doom 64 is only $5 damn imagine not buying this
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 20, 2020, 12:24:24 AM
don't forget to buy doom 64 as well tomorrow stupid bitches

as well? it's included with preorders. wouldn't think there is much of a market for D64 that wouldn't want the new one.

Only weirdos preorder games idk

just preorder it like 7 hours before it comes out, lawl
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 20, 2020, 01:20:36 AM
An hour in...not sure this is the slam dunk I thought it would be.
lol how
The stinginess of the ammo and the reliance on the chain saw. Pacing of the combat feels off compared to 2016.

Also they seem to have a bigger focus on story, but nothing makes sense. And the story doesn’t seem to be in on the joke this time.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: El Babua on March 20, 2020, 01:24:51 AM
This is like FFXIII where you have to read a shit ton of lore in the menus to even get a good idea of wtf is going on

Starting out on Ultra-Violence, really enjoying it so far. Loving the resource management and the tension of trying to run up on an enemy to glory kill them for health while you have like a sliver remaining. Also, the higher difficulties really force you to move around way more. They made ammo stingy just to make you use the chainsaw, something I rarely did in 2016.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rufus on March 20, 2020, 01:53:44 AM
Not that I ever had a problem in dealing with it, its just that I dont ever want to deal with it. I am buying a product, pirates shouldnt have a better version than me as a consumer.

Either way I have no issue waiting, it was removed from DOOM 2016 as well.
They accidentally shipped an uprotected executable again (as with Rage 2), so you won't have to worry about it. :heh

Until the first patch hits, anyway.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on March 20, 2020, 02:09:16 AM
It’s been a long time but I don’t remember having such low ammo capacity on all my guns in 2016.

Also, regrets for getting this in console, it just doesn’t play that well on it.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 20, 2020, 02:11:13 AM
Can't find the reload button, broke game.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 20, 2020, 02:23:48 AM
Yeah, I’m not liking this as much as 2016.

What made Glory Kills work was well you’re already trying to kill them so it rewards being aggressive, it has a benefit to killing monsters, but it also served as a second rest from the chaos.

Now there’s an awkward interruption because I have little ammunition and have to chainsaw people, maybe find something I can if my fuel is low.

But I guess you can upgrade. Maybe it will be better as it goes on.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: benjipwns on March 20, 2020, 02:26:23 AM
So can you finally talk to the creatures? Try to make friends and form alliances?
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 20, 2020, 02:29:03 AM
So can you finally talk to the creatures? Try to make friends and form alliances?

Some of the demons talk to you, but Doom Slayer just shuts up and listens because he knows his privilege as a white male oppressor.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: EchoRin on March 20, 2020, 03:30:44 AM
So can you finally talk to the creatures? Try to make friends and form alliances?

Some of the demons talk to you, but Doom Slayer just shuts up and listens because he knows his privilege as a white male oppressor.

Yeah but he's showing his abs. Why is he showing his abs in a life or death situation? I don't know if there are any arteries in his chiseled stomach, but clearly this is unacceptable character design.  :maf
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 20, 2020, 07:33:25 AM
Doom 64 is only $5 damn imagine not buying this

I played the first level and noticed some frame hitching at points.  It could’ve been unrelated, but I’m thinking this is $5 maybe because PC already had a better running and playing version of Doom 64 with the EX version.

 :camby
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 20, 2020, 12:28:23 PM
Absolutely fantastic, I'm loving every minute of it. Special shout-out to whoever wrote the deep lore, that stuff is my jam.

The stinginess of the ammo and the reliance on the chain saw. Pacing of the combat feels off compared to 2016.

I'm not feeling this at all. Yeah, you gotta use the chainsaw because the game's not constantly throwing ammo at you, but the chainsaw automatically replenishes charges and it really doesn't take longer to chainsaw than it does to glory kill. It's just another tool in your arsenal and the way the combat is set up this time around you gotta use every tool you have.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Akala on March 20, 2020, 01:23:21 PM
played around for a bit and digging it so far, it's pretty much what you'd expect. RTX2080 handles ultra nightmare fine but am still only playing in 1080p.

I need a better monitor one of these days.  :doge
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: nachobro on March 20, 2020, 02:11:47 PM
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Non-Glare-Adjustable-Optix-MAG321CQR/dp/B07NQG1FFB use your coronabux on this bad boy :doge
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 20, 2020, 02:17:59 PM
I've been playing the "Extra Life Mode" (on Hurt Me Plenty) cause of achievements. But it runs great on base XB1
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Akala on March 20, 2020, 03:01:25 PM
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Non-Glare-Adjustable-Optix-MAG321CQR/dp/B07NQG1FFB use your coronabux on this bad boy :doge

I am fine with 1440 with gsync or compatable, but I keep waiting for HDR to be kind of solved on PC and every time i checked its 'not far off?' that was  while back now that i think about it.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: nachobro on March 20, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
it's here now but kinda expensive
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Akala on March 20, 2020, 05:45:35 PM
I'm too cheap. will just loot one in a few months.  :rollsafe
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 20, 2020, 06:00:59 PM
Absolutely fantastic, I'm loving every minute of it. Special shout-out to whoever wrote the deep lore, that stuff is my jam.

The stinginess of the ammo and the reliance on the chain saw. Pacing of the combat feels off compared to 2016.

I'm not feeling this at all. Yeah, you gotta use the chainsaw because the game's not constantly throwing ammo at you, but the chainsaw automatically replenishes charges and it really doesn't take longer to chainsaw than it does to glory kill. It's just another tool in your arsenal and the way the combat is set up this time around you gotta use every tool you have.
Yeah I can’t agree with this. The game wants me to be super aggressive to the point of having an obnoxious amount of stuff to use and do. But since you quickly run out of ammo I find myself awkwardly and quickly being auto forced to use the chainsaw. Which feels abrupt when it happens. It dosent take longer sure, but having your fight constantly sidetracked while fighting bigger enemies is annoying. Because you probably can’t use your chainsaw on them as you love already been forced to probably use it 2 or 3 times during the battle and are then forced to find a lesser demon to quickly chainsaw and then get back into the rythem. After being taken out of it because the game is stingy with ammo.

Combined with a not funny and shitty told story.

This is nowhere near as good as 2016. I never felt like I was being taken out of my rhythm when being aggressive in combat. I feel like that every time I run out of ammo. There using the chainsaw was a quick diversion. Here it’s a constant uneeded mechanic. I feel like all these new things are like that. Glory kills were ok right guys? Let’s kind of add them for every resource so now battles feel even more tedious instead of the simple go all out affair they were in 2016. Game is a huge downgrade.

 2016 was a perfect simple game. This game so far is “let’s put a lot of toppings and shit on your perfect cake” type sequel.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Chooky on March 20, 2020, 07:12:16 PM
well i don't have doom eternal but i do have doom 64 (again)

and yes this game still fucking rules. be sure to crank up the music slider to max when you play.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 20, 2020, 07:22:21 PM
Absolutely fantastic, I'm loving every minute of it. Special shout-out to whoever wrote the deep lore, that stuff is my jam.

https://twitter.com/OnionGamers/status/1241085882339405826
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on March 20, 2020, 08:17:30 PM
After getting a few levels in I like it a lot more. Ammo upgrades are a must and make a huge difference.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 20, 2020, 09:31:34 PM
Also, to answer the question in the thread title:

YES
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: El Babua on March 20, 2020, 10:57:47 PM
Once you figure out how to draw health/armor off enemies, the early game is actually easier than 2016 so far IMO
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on March 21, 2020, 10:58:43 AM
I’m still playing on the easiest difficulty but now that I understand could probably bump it up a notch.  This game would really control better with mouse and keyboard, it’s not a very controller friendly shooter. It’s playable, but I can tell my performance really suffers compared to what I could do with a mouse.

Edit: was t sure my 970 could handle it.

The damage to enemies from gunshots is pretty cool. I don’t think they had that in 2016
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Shuri on March 21, 2020, 11:20:04 AM
I'm kind of not feeling this one.  :doge  There's nothing wrong with it, but even by the end of Doom 2016, I was kind of getting tired of it. It was getting repetitive and this just feels like more of the same.

Kinda like how Doom 2 felt for Doom, but the original gameplay was just so perfect.

Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on March 21, 2020, 08:09:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/RFkqV6o.png)
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 21, 2020, 10:14:29 PM
Yeah I'm done. I don't like this game. I did'nt come for shitty platforming and an overload of new kind of shit mechanics. This is a pretty disappointing sequel.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 21, 2020, 11:41:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/CURROzf.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/oY2LHFP.png)
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Akala on March 22, 2020, 12:00:40 AM
Yeah his room was awesome.  :lol

I like it but not huge on the platforming and the levels are kinda overlong. Really digging the variety in environments so far, kind of unexpected.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 22, 2020, 12:03:53 AM
Lack of variety in the locations was one of the few complaints I had with Doom 2016. Doom Eternal has knocked it out of the park so far in regards to level variety, lots of really cool looking areas.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Chooky on March 22, 2020, 12:30:25 AM
ok but who is playing doom 64

c'mon guys i know I'm not the only one at this party right
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 22, 2020, 02:10:24 AM
Yeah I'm done. I don't like this game. I did'nt come for shitty platforming and an overload of new kind of shit mechanics. This is a pretty disappointing sequel.

ya you're trash, game is amazing. bye haha
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 22, 2020, 02:51:59 AM
Nah, Doom 2016 was amazing. Top 10 game of this gen. Probably very hard to make a sequel to pretty much a perfect game. So they just overloaded it with crap.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 22, 2020, 03:46:35 AM
Nah, Doom 2016 was amazing. Top 10 game of this gen. Probably very hard to make a sequel to pretty much a perfect game. So they just overloaded it with crap.

enjoy being in the minority, haha

you should probably just leave. lmao
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 22, 2020, 03:59:38 AM
I mean, they made it more arcadey and bombastic to separate itself from the original.

I mean, what did you want... just a map pack and a few weapons? :doge Another facility to explore? :doge
Yeah, I would have taken Doom 2016 with a few changes, new weapons, and a new setting. That sounds like a good sequel instead of overwhelming and obnoxious new features, shit platforming, and a nonsensical and not entertaining story.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on March 22, 2020, 07:26:11 AM
if you have a DMC 4 avatar you should lose all ability to complain about shitty platform sections in action games
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Nintex on March 22, 2020, 08:11:34 AM
Told you guys this was Super Mario Galaxy 2
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 22, 2020, 10:52:17 AM
but super mario galaxy 2 was good
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 22, 2020, 08:52:35 PM
The platforming is so fluid and intuitive that I don't mind it at all, and it lets the levels be more open and expansive [without relying on things like elevators or just throwing in moving platforms that automatically take you to the next part of the level].
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: El Babua on March 23, 2020, 12:03:41 AM
Just reached mission 5. The encounters are already at the craziness of the last 2 levels of 2016 and I haven't even gotten all my weapons yet.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 23, 2020, 10:13:11 AM
I beat the game (Extra Lives Mode - Hurt Me Plenty) and unfortunately hit either a bug or intended design where I can't play Mission Select to get the last achievement. If I want the achievement I need to replay the game up to the Famine Cheat (pretty much close to end of game) just to replay a mission.

I spent yesterday playing Battlemode since nobody is gonna play it past the first month to get the achievements.

I didn't really enjoy Battlemode. Just another forced multiplayer in a game that doesn't need it.

(https://i.imgur.com/RtecjlN.png)

Started playing Doom 64, turns out the achievements are pretty easy (especially if you use passwords) but I'm gonna play the campaign since I haven't really.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on March 23, 2020, 11:42:22 AM
Battle mode seems super heavily stacked against the doom guy. Everybody always just picks the strongest monster and rushes him down,

Imo, a mode that had 4 doom guys in a wave based multiplayer might have actually been fun.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 23, 2020, 12:32:34 PM
Not gonna link it, but Patrick and friends on the Vice podcast are doing some  :exxy towards Doom Eternal, in that kind of self-serious way that makes them all so easy to dislike.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Akala on March 23, 2020, 12:45:47 PM
What are the complaints?
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 23, 2020, 01:01:04 PM
I’m at work and can’t listen to it, but their terribly edited transcript excerpt and the user comments have me thinking it’s because of a perceived tonal shift in the story telling, and also that the game’s combat is more frenetic and “difficult” than Doom 2016 (to be fair, I’m just assuming here that these guys are generally terrible at games).

I spotted this little bonus nugget from the comments of their review thread  :lol :lol, maybe should be posted in the shit thread:

(https://i.ibb.co/wCr9Gfq/CF8-EDB4-B-A974-4802-B61-F-178578-FF4-FFC.png)
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 23, 2020, 01:30:41 PM
THE ALT RIGHT IS AT IT AGAIN #GAMERGATE
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 23, 2020, 02:18:40 PM
Battle mode seems super heavily stacked against the doom guy. Everybody always just picks the strongest monster and rushes him down,

Imo, a mode that had 4 doom guys in a wave based multiplayer might have actually been fun.

It depends. Lots of people I played were pretty much learning the game but in my experience:

- Super Shotgun + Ballista are stupid. Super Shotgun lets you close gap with meathook AND it gives shield on hit. Ballista does 600 damage ANYWHERE its basically a hipfire sniper rifle. 3 hits and they're dead. (I actually think the damage numbers are wonky and not correct, but the ballista can kill you in 3 shots ANYWHERE)
- Doomguy just has to do one chainsaw and he reloads his ammo + gains health + gets a speed boost. The "loot blocker" ability from the monster might as well be non existent. Its a waste of an ability. It needs to last longer.
- If you play Pain Elemental you are literally a HUGE target for said Ballista. Where the fuck is a Pain Elemental going to hide? I'm farming your ass LMAO. Same with the Mancubus. Skinnier / fast enemies like Marauder and Revenant or even Archvile are better choices. I literally farmed two monsters so much they both quit since the FIRST ROUND went on for 20 minutes. I'm not trapped with you - you're trapped with ME baby.
- If you have to pick a monster, I had the best experience with the Mancubus. It's very tanky, and the flamethrower can melt doomguy. I would pop a smoke on him and just burst him down. Archvile is decent too. Pain Elemental is straight trash.
- The mode is straight lag, it's a terrible experience. Not sure PC uses actual servers but I know for sure console is P2P of some kind.

Honestly if you play a GOOD doomguy, doomguy is stupid broken. I don't necessarily agree with people saying doomguy is weak.

I've had games where I straight shit on a doomguy (new player, bad player) and I've had games where a doomguy just dances around laughing cause they have more features and movement and abilities that outclass the monsters.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on March 23, 2020, 10:32:42 PM
Battle mode seems super heavily stacked against the doom guy. Everybody always just picks the strongest monster and rushes him down,

Imo, a mode that had 4 doom guys in a wave based multiplayer might have actually been fun.

It depends. Lots of people I played were pretty much learning the game but in my experience:

- Super Shotgun + Ballista are stupid. Super Shotgun lets you close gap with meathook AND it gives shield on hit. Ballista does 600 damage ANYWHERE its basically a hipfire sniper rifle. 3 hits and they're dead. (I actually think the damage numbers are wonky and not correct, but the ballista can kill you in 3 shots ANYWHERE)
- Doomguy just has to do one chainsaw and he reloads his ammo + gains health + gets a speed boost. The "loot blocker" ability from the monster might as well be non existent. Its a waste of an ability. It needs to last longer.
- If you play Pain Elemental you are literally a HUGE target for said Ballista. Where the fuck is a Pain Elemental going to hide? I'm farming your ass LMAO. Same with the Mancubus. Skinnier / fast enemies like Marauder and Revenant or even Archvile are better choices. I literally farmed two monsters so much they both quit since the FIRST ROUND went on for 20 minutes. I'm not trapped with you - you're trapped with ME baby.
- If you have to pick a monster, I had the best experience with the Mancubus. It's very tanky, and the flamethrower can melt doomguy. I would pop a smoke on him and just burst him down. Archvile is decent too. Pain Elemental is straight trash.
- The mode is straight lag, it's a terrible experience. Not sure PC uses actual servers but I know for sure console is P2P of some kind.

Honestly if you play a GOOD doomguy, doomguy is stupid broken. I don't necessarily agree with people saying doomguy is weak.

I've had games where I straight shit on a doomguy (new player, bad player) and I've had games where a doomguy just dances around laughing cause they have more features and movement and abilities that outclass the monsters.

Every time I have played it’s just two marauders (or whatever the evil doom guy is called). They are as fast as me and can take more damage. Never lasted more than a minute or two.

Only played two matches though.

Also: Jesus talk about some dorks that can’t take a joke.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: HardcoreRetro on March 24, 2020, 10:15:50 AM
How's the soundtrack in this one? Easily the best part of DOOM 2016.

Going through the music I can find on youtube there's nothing I like as much as BFG Division and Rip and Tear from 2016.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 24, 2020, 11:04:48 AM
Honestly I don't think it's as good as 2016 either.

I think the only music that was bangin to me was the general fight music, and I think the Gladiator fight (with the chanting - there was a video about how Mick brought in metal singers as the choir)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgyXeTiOo4E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6VExORkdt4
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: MMaRsu on March 24, 2020, 11:55:58 AM
So yeah, I think the general concencus at this point is that 2016 is a better shooter.

Eternal hasnt grabbed me at all. What a shame.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: paprikastaude on March 24, 2020, 11:58:15 AM
Not gonna link it, but Patrick and friends on the Vice podcast are doing some  :exxy towards Doom Eternal, in that kind of self-serious way that makes them all so easy to dislike.

So don't give this attention whoring idiocy any attention.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 24, 2020, 12:03:49 PM
My post was talking about the music specifically. I think Eternal is just as good as Doom 2016. It's [more doom] like... not sure what the issue is.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 24, 2020, 02:26:13 PM
Not gonna link it, but Patrick and friends on the Vice podcast are doing some  :exxy towards Doom Eternal, in that kind of self-serious way that makes them all so easy to dislike.

So don't give this attention whoring idiocy any attention.

Ah, the Nintex rule.  Maybe I spend too much time reading the shit thread, because making fun of dumb takes is like catnip at this point.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: BIONIC on March 24, 2020, 06:38:12 PM
Game is fucking badass.

The ARC base (level 5 I think) might legit be the best FPS level I’ve ever played. The fucking music while ripping and tearing shit’s giving me a chubby  :lawd

Finished the gladiator fight, but I think I still have 5 or so levels left. Been taking it slow since the game is super draining (in a good way!), plus I’m alternating with AC.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on March 24, 2020, 08:08:23 PM
Anyone who thinks this game isn't better than 2016 is full of shite. Especially if you're posting hot takes like (hmm this game is kinda shallow) after you're two levels in using a shotgun and machine gun with 3/4 of the game locked to you

Levels- Eternal slaps it. 2016 had 2 modes. Mars Base and Hell Castle. In eternal even with the "hell levels" you have castle, meat pile, corrupted city. Not to mention the weird viking planet stuff, different urban earth enviroments (office building/ARC building vs shiny and chrome, snowy cultist base)

Gameplay/Combat- Eternal Slaps it. The weakpoint system makes the game so much more engaging during encounters, the gore deformation is awesome. returning monsters have all had way better mechanics added. the bigger bestiary also adds some much needed variety as i thought 2016 hella ran out of steam by the end. although even then this game could have used maybe 1-2 more in the *spoiler* area as it's weird there's only that one themed type



Music: Might give this one to the original. Slayer gate song + the combat song on arc labs does slap though
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: bork on March 25, 2020, 07:44:19 AM
https://twitter.com/OMesmua/status/1242506028857556993

 :tocry
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on March 25, 2020, 03:58:37 PM
Finished it last night on the easiest difficulty.

I thought about ramping it up to a higher difficulty, but honestly the last two levels I could have seen being very frustrating on a higher difficulty setting with a controller. Shit got fairly challenging even on the easiest (other than I had like 25 extra lives at that point). But I did die a few times on the final boss.

Good game, but kind of ran out of steam at the end. I don’t think I could have dealt with two more levels. I thought the story was pretty good, and an interesting way to add lore. I like how it eludes to the original doom games but it doesn’t exactly fold them into the narrative.

Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 25, 2020, 05:32:18 PM
I guess I just like the simplicity of Doom 2016 more.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on March 25, 2020, 09:52:15 PM
I felt the same way for the first 2 levels or so.

It kind of has its own groove to it but you need to play it a bit to get used to it.

Imo they really start you off with not enough ammo, and that is an issue on the beginning. Until i got an ammo upgrade and a few guns, I felt like it was too much management of the various ammo amounts and chainsaw gauges, but by the end of the game it was hardy a concern.

I also think they make you guns do more damage as the game goes on. Some enemies that were difficult in the early game I felt like I just straight blasted through them by the end of the game with a lot less trouble.

Really noticed this with revenants. It felt like they took a lot of shots in the early game, but by the end one three round lock on of rockets would kill one.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on March 26, 2020, 08:18:44 PM
I also think they make you guns do more damage as the game goes on. Some enemies that were difficult in the early game I felt like I just straight blasted through them by the end of the game with a lot less trouble.

Really noticed this with revenants. It felt like they took a lot of shots in the early game, but by the end one three round lock on of rockets would kill one.
Yeah revenants eat shit when you shoot them with rockets. I don't think all your guns get buffed or anything though, Zombies consistently take about the same amount of damage from the heavy cannon to stagger the whole way through. I think its a combination of getting better and the game + the late game guns just own some of the early monsters.

If I have a problem with this game, it's that the keybinds are moronic. Chainsaw should have been on R (reload), flame thrower on F, (duh) maybe grenade switch on c. I have no idea why they though switching weapon mods needed to be right there on F, but maybe that's just me because I never use more than 1 mod.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Positive Touch on March 27, 2020, 12:11:05 AM
i thought i was cool and started this game on nightmare. bumped that shit right down as soon as i fought the first arachnotron.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on March 27, 2020, 02:36:40 AM
The mobility of some demons like the arachnotron and the snake dudes really made me wish I had bought it on PC at times. The lock on is fairly weak compared to like call of duty, so those guys can really be a PITA the way they move.

The slayer hunter or evil doom guy or whatever he is called with the shield was pretty consistently a challenge, could seldom hold a good head on him with anything other than the super shotgun.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: BIONIC on March 27, 2020, 08:22:25 AM
Finished it last night. Damn good game overall.

Biggest issues I’d say are the blue muck areas. “Let’s make a game that’s all about speed and forcibly slow you for no good reason or payoff  :derp :derp :derp”, and the final boss being ass with a misleading first phase (it says destroy 7 armor pieces but there are actually 8 ).

I’ve never played a shooter that makes you feel this empowered and badass. Fucking awesome trip.

id  :salute
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on March 28, 2020, 06:15:20 AM
Maybe they can drop all pretenses in nuDoom 3 and add some quake 1 lovecraft shit and the strogg. But so far everything here is varied enough in a cool way.

Based Hugo. Best western dev. I'm up for whatever this team comes up with next.
I'm almost certain the next game they'll do is gonna be quake in this style, after Hugo name dropped it on Joe rogan
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Positive Touch on March 28, 2020, 08:33:14 AM
the strogg have a LOT more potential that was never fully tapped in to. too bad quake 4 already took the cool plot twist of turning your character into one.


anyway i'm on level 3 of this and loving it so far. the visuals are fucking insane; i never imagined doom 2 visuals could be made into something like this. the gameplay is incredible, although i can see how some people don't like it. it does take a lot more effort to manage everything during a firefight, and whenever i get surrounded i end up button mashing out of frustration because it's overwhelming. using abilities to draw out ammo and health is intuitive enough, but having to dash to avoid projectiles and especially having to hit the tiny weak points on enemies starts to make it feel a little convoluted. i hate the weak points in particular because you have to be way more precise than a controller can allow. it does help that the map design is SUPERB. half these arenas feel like they could be mini quake 3 levels, with the jumppads and teleporters everywhere. it's fucking beautiful.

there's so much more i could ramble on about, like all the amazing and corny easter eggs in the mc's room, the cool unlockable from doom 64, or the absolutely fuck-awful ui (seriously the worst part of the game; what were they thinking with this convoluted ugly bs?), but i need to go back and play bc god damn this game is fun.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: BIONIC on March 28, 2020, 08:53:49 AM
I chose the blood red UI color (last one I think) and never looked back. Looks pretty decent I think.

The default colors are disgustingly garish   :yuck
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Positive Touch on March 28, 2020, 09:34:37 AM
i did the same. it was just too hideous. even besides the colors everything is an overcrowded, overwhelming mess.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Akala on March 28, 2020, 11:44:44 AM
there is PRIME LOOT  :lol

(https://i.imgur.com/RP2yl0P.jpg)
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on March 28, 2020, 12:36:18 PM
Just wanna say that this game looks beautiful. Par of me wishes they'd go just a little weirder, more eldritch, more wicked with the art design but it does look and play like dream.

We're never gonna get that proper sequel to Quake 1 bro.

:tocry

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/5c5c70ebedd21da4314f95d3b16d85e1/tumblr_p1lfnqNQTU1v4u49oo1_540.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYi3qT1rQzA
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Positive Touch on March 28, 2020, 04:46:44 PM
i've been using those strategies, but it's still rough going a lot of the time. trying to use a controller to carefully line up a shot is hard enough, trying to do it in half a second when i have to dodge an incoming shot while watching out for the guys chasing me from behind is really really hard. it's not a terrible design decision or anything, it just feels like sometimes it requires me to be a little too precise.

it also doesn't help that my fucking dualshock chooses now of all times to go crazy with dropped inputs and huge left-stick deadzones. fuck me.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on March 28, 2020, 05:56:37 PM
I feel like chronostrike is almost necessary on consoles.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 28, 2020, 07:08:05 PM
Disagree, I played game just fine without it

On Hurt Me Plenty I used:

- Super Shotgun (masterworked - the flamehook + shield on hit is probably OP)
- Shotgun (sticky bomb has stupid aim assist for spider turrets, revenants, and cacodemons)
- Rocket Launcher (lock-on mod)

- Ice Bomb (fully upgraded - makes the frag grenade absolutely useless. Increased Damage + Health on Hit/Kill + Giving you breathing room? Ok sure)

- Speed Boost on Glory Kill
- Blood Punch gives health on kill
- Faster Glory Kill
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on March 28, 2020, 07:48:13 PM
Huh, I maxed frag and barely touched the ice.

Super shotgun has a shield on hit? I knew about the flame hook. They made that weapon super fun to use.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Akala on March 28, 2020, 08:07:30 PM
I need to make myself use the super shotgun more. I have also ignored ice grenades, will check.  :thinking

Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on March 30, 2020, 11:18:39 AM
Apparently the chants during the Gladiator fight are saying "Kar En Tuk" which means "Rip And Tear" in the Sentinel language. Dope
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Positive Touch on March 30, 2020, 11:22:13 AM
amazing to me that a stupid line from a shitty forgotten comic could, 20+ years later, become the catchphrase for the series
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: toku on March 30, 2020, 11:25:24 AM
That's usually how things go. Seeds.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: El Babua on March 31, 2020, 01:45:48 AM
I love how missions 9/10/11

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Taras Nabad and Nekravol
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Both not only just resemble late 90s FPS maps aesthetically, but also in how they perfectly capture that era's janky ass FPS swimming and platforming
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Akala on March 31, 2020, 08:19:55 PM
the whole game honestly felt more unreal than doom. I like it and it's been fun, but am about halfway through last(?) level and am kinda done with it tbh. will push through to open up the cheats etc. but kind of wish it was over after tower, will see what's up in final stretch.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: El Babua on April 06, 2020, 10:03:26 PM
Beat it, on Ultra-Violence.

This is a better game than 2016 though it hasn't given me as strong of an impression. Might just be because I'm already familiar to the core gameplay and most of the additions have been mainly mechanical. Perhaps a Nightmare run may make appreciate it more just like replaying on UV did for 2016.

Combat wise, it took a lot of things 2016 did right and amp it up. A lot of people have mixed feelings on the resource management aspect, but I liked it. Kept you on your toes and forced you to recognize the enemies on the screen more than you otherwise would. Even though the developers knew it was the case in 2016, the Balista and SSG are still OP af once fully upgraded. Not that I mind. Zipping around with the SSG might be the best gameplay mechanic ever in an FPS.

Platforming was more of a mixed bag. Not really challenging but could get janky, especially the swimming.

Overall, great game! GOTY so far.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Rahxephon91 on April 07, 2020, 03:40:42 AM
I was starting to enjoy this, but the Marauder is really hard. Eh I guess this is too hard for me.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: El Babua on April 07, 2020, 11:48:26 PM
Marauders by themselves aren't too difficult once you know how they work. Once you figure that out, the challenge goes from "How do I beat them?" to "How do I move around the arena/deal with enemies within the arena as I try to take this guy out?"

Even though most of the vids defending the Marauders and the combat style in general have just been 10 minute long "git gud's" it's pretty much what I believe as well lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzAo7uM8Jo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUMbqodZsqQ
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: kingv on April 08, 2020, 10:39:56 PM
There are games where I knew I would have to play more than I wanted to to progress further, but typically I just stopped playing them.

Like I’m not a huge dark souls fan, but that’s.... fine? Like I just don’t play those games.

I didn’t like the marauders in doom, really, but I never actually knew that shooting them caused the dogs, that’s kind of interesting actually.

The biggest problem I had with them really had more to do with the fact I was playing on Xbox with a controller and my fine aim is not so hot on a controller so I felt really trapped into using the shotgun. Would not have felt that way on a mouse where moving between the dog and the dude is less difficult.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: mormapope on April 17, 2020, 08:42:06 PM
Started playing on Nightmare difficulty, even the first level alone is better than most of Doom 2016 for me. Something about enemy variety and the art style, music too, it all vibes together way better for me.

Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Nintex on April 26, 2020, 06:18:44 PM
Rip and Teared my way through the first and most of the second level

Yeah this is DOOM alright, the soundtrack rocks, demons were killed

DOOM/10
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 04, 2020, 02:11:51 PM
That sucks. :fbm
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Positive Touch on May 04, 2020, 02:22:01 PM
wow, they really laid it ALL out. it sucks because mick's soundtracks were so good, but it sounds like underdelivering + taking those shots on social media pushed id over the edge. might not have been so bad if dipfucks weren't going out of their way to shit on id's sound tech. misplaced stupid gamer rage claims another victim.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Joe Molotov on May 04, 2020, 02:45:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtxPLJMhH2E
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on May 04, 2020, 08:39:51 PM
There's a reason why collectors edition OSTs are usually just a few tracks,. mixing and mastering music takes a long ass time.

Sounds like id overpromised and mick/the quality of the soundtrack had to take the fall. There's also that whole thing where he recommended that studio in australia for the job who were never contacted by Beth/id- so there's more to the story than what they're letting on.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: El Babua on May 04, 2020, 08:55:57 PM
Considering how Bethesda has conducted business in the past when working with contractors or independent studios, Im not going to believe this wholesale. I can’t help but find it hard to believe a composer would promise such a big project would be completed in such a short amount of time.

Things really start to break for me when you hear that they didn’t have him signed on to produce the OST before promising it as part of the collectors edition. Seems like a major oversight to me. The excessive praise for Mick in the post sounds like  they are definitely trying to cover their asses if Mick had any inclination of suing for defamation.

Hopefully we hear more of Mick’s side.

Agreed.

Bethesda, and Zenimax by extension have been one of the skeeviest publishers when it comes to treating outside developers.

Their whole MO of buying out contracted developers after giving them impossible milestones and holding off funding until they agreed to a buyout has been well documented. I believe they tried the same shit with Obsidian. Not surprised if they fucked over Mick in some capacity.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: El Babua on May 31, 2020, 08:01:25 PM
Beat it, on Ultra-Violence.

This is a better game than 2016 though it hasn't given me as strong of an impression. Might just be because I'm already familiar to the core gameplay and most of the additions have been mainly mechanical. Perhaps a Nightmare run may make appreciate it more just like replaying on UV did for 2016.

Combat wise, it took a lot of things 2016 did right and amp it up. A lot of people have mixed feelings on the resource management aspect, but I liked it. Kept you on your toes and forced you to recognize the enemies on the screen more than you otherwise would. Even though the developers knew it was the case in 2016, the Balista and SSG are still OP af once fully upgraded. Not that I mind. Zipping around with the SSG might be the best gameplay mechanic ever in an FPS.

Platforming was more of a mixed bag. Not really challenging but could get janky, especially the swimming.

Overall, great game! GOTY so far.

So I just started a Nightmare run and I have to say, I sure am appreciating the combat more.

Before restarting the game, I thought the earlier levels would be a slog due to the lack of guns, equipment and abilities you have at the beginning of the game. And I was wrong. The game gives you everything you need to easily beat the level, with just two weapons and no equipment launcher until about the halfway mark. Knowing the potential for all the guns and equipment, as well as the best ways to engage in combat with the enemies presented, I blasted through the initial swarm of Imps, Cacos and soldiers with my Grenade-Launcher Shotgun attachment, and sniped off Arachnatrons with the Machine Gun scope. Also, if you're going solo against a heavy after clearing the screen of other enemies, you can quick swap between the grenade launcher and scope instead of waiting for their respective attachment cooldowns and bring them down super quick.

The fact that the game taught me to be creative in the use of those above mechanics, as well as teaching me the best way to use them made the whole level an easier experience (and DEFINITELY a more fun one) compared to my first run. Initial launch impressions made me concerned about ammo issues since I kept running out like everyone else online, but had no issues this time through. Using the chainsaw became second-nature thanks to me internalizing the game's combat cadence. Heck, the level gives you way more gas and ammo than you need lol
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 07, 2020, 05:21:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25QpZerHelg
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 03, 2020, 07:25:15 PM
Playing this now on Xbox. WoW. What a tremendous game.
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: demi on October 20, 2020, 03:36:50 PM
hey CUCKS

the DLC is out

put some hair on your fucking nuts

buy it

DOOM
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: Pissy F Benny on October 20, 2020, 05:31:17 PM
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Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: remy on October 20, 2020, 05:53:25 PM
But I want less hair on my nuts  :goty2
play it, grow it, then wax it :rash
Title: Re: Is DOOM Eternal the most metal FPS since Powerslave?
Post by: DJ Bedroom on October 20, 2020, 07:55:31 PM
Goddamn the DLC is fucking hard man. Like, 3 not-cyberdemons at once and a bunch of other shit at the same time on the first level. Marauders still pretty easy though, cry moar n00bz
Still GOTY by a fuckin mile