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Title: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Himu on March 10, 2020, 02:20:14 PM
Please. I'm dying for some turn based strategy. After I finish Souls 3 I plan on playing X-Com or replay FF Tactics or Shining Force II or maybe getting FE: Three Heroes.

There's the Disgaea games. Is the latest good? What's the best Disgaea game? Is 2 good? I've only played 1.

One unfortunate thing is that these days the serious storytelling srpg thing in the Tactics Ogre, Front Mission, Final Fantasy Tactics vein doesn't even exist. Srpgs today are mostly silly or tongue in cheek when I want serious political Shakespearean/matoor shit. I like what I've played of Fire Emblem series but gameplay is clearly what it's famous for. Although there is FE3 and 4 which appear to be more serious in its storytelling.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 10, 2020, 02:32:37 PM
I haven’t played it yet, but I’ve heard favorable opinions for Fell Seal, and it seems to have reviewed really well, too.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/699170/Fell_Seal_Arbiters_Mark/

Did you ever play Vandal Hearts?  If not, I think you should check it out.

Googling the fell seal link also led me to this website, which looks like it might be a good resource.

https://turnbasedlovers.com/
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 10, 2020, 02:38:48 PM
Both Xcom and Fire Emblem are very cool and good, and get my recommendations.

One that you didnt mention, that is also pretty cool, is the banner saga. Only played the first, but it's cool. If you find South park somewhat funny, the South Park games are also great. and if you havent played the latest Dragon Quest, that is an absolutely fantastic game imo.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Himu on March 10, 2020, 02:42:32 PM
Heard of Banner Saga. Haven't checked it out yet but I like what I've seen.

Haven't played Vandal Hearts. Wanted to back in the day.

Dragon Quest XI is not an srpg.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Mr Gilhaney on March 10, 2020, 02:44:55 PM
i guess i dont know my genres well then. either way, play dragon quest and remember to install sweaty skin mods.  :-*
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Himu on March 10, 2020, 02:46:37 PM
Matsuno please come back :(
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: ToxicAdam on March 10, 2020, 03:08:00 PM
(Play X-com immediately)

Ever try Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter? It's a great spin on the genre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breath_of_Fire:_Dragon_Quarter

The storyline is pretty boilerplate JRPG nonsense, but the setting and the mechanics are top-notch.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: BIONIC on March 10, 2020, 03:09:57 PM
Xcom: Enemy Unknown
Xcom 2: War of the Chosen
Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle
Valkyria Chronicles 1 & 4

All bonafide classics, and some of the best games I’ve ever played.

Xcom 2 is the most complicated and demanding (though also my favorite), so I’d save it for last if your brain isn’t in SRPG mode. All the others are good entry points I’d say.

The VC games are the only ones that have a story someone might actually care about. The first one in particular is pretty decent I thought. Fourth is definitely worse story wise, but it makes it up in gameplay.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Himu on March 10, 2020, 03:11:59 PM
(Play X-com immediately)

Ever try Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter? It's a great spin on the genre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breath_of_Fire:_Dragon_Quarter

The storyline is pretty boilerplate JRPG nonsense, but the setting and the mechanics are top-notch.

Of course. Bofdq is a classic
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Himu on March 10, 2020, 03:13:20 PM
Xcom: Enemy Unknown
Xcom 2: War of the Chosen
Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle
Valkyria Chronicles 1 & 4

All bonafide classics, and some of the best games I’ve ever played.

Xcom 2 is the most complicated and demanding (though also my favorite), so I’d save it for last if your brain isn’t in SRPG mode. All the others are good entry points I’d say.

The VC games are the only ones that have a story someone might actually care about. The first one in particular is pretty decent I thought. Fourth is definitely worse story wise, but it makes it up in gameplay.

I'll play xcom then. I have it on steam. I think rumbler gifted it to me years ago.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: nachobro on March 10, 2020, 03:15:16 PM
Not a jrpg or whatever but Into The Breach is hella fun. Also Wargroove is the true successor to Advance Wars and has crossplay, a level creator that includes the ability to add story npcs and dialogue, and a bunch of free updates.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 10, 2020, 03:45:30 PM
The current generation of Super Robot Wars games (V, X and T) are all available in English for both PS4 and Switch.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Raist on March 10, 2020, 03:48:26 PM
I hear Mutant Year Zero is pretty good. Same devs released another game recently. Something 2029.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: tiesto on March 10, 2020, 03:54:20 PM
Shining Force 3 if you can get ahold of it at a reasonable price. Also the Langrisser I/II remakes drop today (make sure to switch back to the original character art)
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: nachobro on March 10, 2020, 03:55:56 PM
I hear Mutant Year Zero is pretty good. Same devs released another game recently. Something 2029.
corruption 2029, haven't played it yet but it looks pretty cool. i think its epic store only if anyone still cares about that.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Bebpo on March 10, 2020, 03:58:10 PM
Yeah, I really liked Banner Saga ep1. I still need to play ep2/3.
I hear Fell Seal gameplay-wise is up there with FFT/TO but story/writing-wise is lolz. It's in the latest humble choice bundle if you want to check it out.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 10, 2020, 04:05:49 PM
If you play FE3H (you should) don't even fuck around, start on maddening mode or I can guarantee you will hate it. (You'll probably still hate it)
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Tuckers Law on March 10, 2020, 04:35:18 PM
Matsuno please come back :(

SOON (https://www.gamersfirst.com/unsung-story/)

 :rejoice
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 10, 2020, 04:35:33 PM
Try BATTLETECH:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsIMfOo_VO0
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 10, 2020, 04:37:42 PM
Or Age of Wonders: Planetfall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WunILw84QY
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Himu on March 10, 2020, 07:20:06 PM
Try BATTLETECH:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsIMfOo_VO0

This looks great.

What was that one game? Popular, 2d, you build ships? Forgot the name.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 10, 2020, 07:23:07 PM
You talking about FTL?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ4FRcu_bjs
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Himu on March 10, 2020, 07:27:15 PM
Yeah that.

Can you tell me about it?
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Great Rumbler on March 10, 2020, 07:31:32 PM
It's really more of a rogue-like than a strategy game. You are trying to reach a certain point in the galaxy by hopping between planets and other notable locations, and each stop presents you with some kind of random situation [which can either help or hurt you]. You have to manage resources and fight with hostile ships along the way. Since it's a rogue-like there's a lot of RNG involved.

It's a pretty good game, just not necessarily what you were asking for you in the OP.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: headwalk on March 10, 2020, 10:07:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YirkpurLHkU

given your propensity to go head first into things i reckon you'll be working on soldering articulated limps onto your spine before the end of your first playthough.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Rufus on March 11, 2020, 12:05:19 AM
https://forums.serenesforest.net/index.php?/topic/80209-berwick-saga-translation-translation-finished/
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: bluemax on March 11, 2020, 12:17:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY9G-kzX8wI
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2020, 12:20:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY9G-kzX8wI

that isn't turn based
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: thisismyusername on March 11, 2020, 12:26:20 AM
I'll play xcom then. I have it on steam. I think rumbler gifted it to me years ago.

X-com and X-com 2 are solid. I really enjoyed them. But you need to be in a good mind-set for them. They can be hectic and if you don't want to save-scum the higher difficulties (and Ironman) can be brutal if you're not careful.

I'd say War Groove if you're looking for an Advanced Wars -like on PC.

Maybe Invisible, Inc which isn't necessarily "SRPG" but is a stealth strategy title that does grid-based selections like SRPGs and X-com.

As for Disgaea: They're all solid (even DD2) but they're grind-treadmills: The end game will want you to optimize your stuff/grind item world to do Baal and the like. So if you've played 1, you've pretty much played them all. It depends on how much you enjoyed the "humor" and world/characters of Disgaea since 2, 3, 4, 5 do different casts with the older casts coming in as DLC for the entries.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: chronovore on March 11, 2020, 02:35:03 AM
https://www.gog.com/game/jagged_alliance
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Rahxephon91 on March 11, 2020, 05:20:00 AM
Banner Saga is pretty good. Solid Switch port as well.

Grand Kingdom was kind of overlooked.

Are the Langrisser Remakes good?
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: BIONIC on March 11, 2020, 09:25:16 AM
I forgot some of my favorites:
Metal Gear Acid 1 & 2

First one has some rough edges, but still legit. Second one is just sublime :mouf
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Bebpo on March 11, 2020, 04:48:01 PM
Battletech in theory would've been an amazing game, but it isn't well designed by any means.

Lots of useless weapons, overly slow (even as someone with lots of patience), features that they put in but never realized, statistics that lie a lot etc. etc.

Thank you. I didn't want to ruin on greatrumblers parade.

I was so hyped for Battletech. I love mechs, I loved mechwarrior, I loved Front Mission, I loved Hairbrained Studios Shadowrun games. It should have been great.

But it was waaaaaaay too slow and not that great designed and I gave up a few missions in. They really blew this one. Still waiting for my good modern mecha strategy game. Into the Breach is closer for sure, but still not what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 11, 2020, 07:42:57 PM
I see my Super Robot Wars plug has gone ignored.

SUPER ROBOT WARS. They're in English now. You know what must be done.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2020, 07:46:27 PM
I see my Super Robot Wars plug has gone ignored.

SUPER ROBOT WARS. They're in English now. You know what must be done.

Is there a demo of one
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: bluemax on March 11, 2020, 11:10:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY9G-kzX8wI

that isn't turn based

It plays like Jagged Alliance mixed with XCom. You input your orders and then they play out. But if you get spotted during the action phase, it allows you to adjust your orders.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: toku on March 11, 2020, 11:19:25 PM
XCOM2
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: thisismyusername on March 11, 2020, 11:31:41 PM
XCOM2

But not before playing X-com 1 and winning (and then finding out the canon route is DISMAL failure). Because X-com 2 kind of ruins 1 with some of it's changes and losing "COMMANDER I'D LIKE YOU TO TELL YOUR TROOPS TO NOT THROW GRENADES AROUND SO WE CAN GET SAMPLES!!!" x100.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Bebpo on March 12, 2020, 12:47:55 AM
I see my Super Robot Wars plug has gone ignored.

SUPER ROBOT WARS. They're in English now. You know what must be done.

Modern SRW games are terrible strategy games but fun visual novels.

Cindi would fucking haaate srw
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: chronovore on March 12, 2020, 12:54:49 AM
I see my Super Robot Wars plug has gone ignored.

SUPER ROBOT WARS. They're in English now. You know what must be done.
:expert
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: toku on March 12, 2020, 09:38:55 AM
SRW is in english now?
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Himu on March 15, 2020, 06:23:04 PM
I see my Super Robot Wars plug has gone ignored.

SUPER ROBOT WARS. They're in English now. You know what must be done.

Modern SRW games are terrible strategy games but fun visual novels.

Cindi would fucking haaate srw

what about SD GUNDAM G GENERATION CROSS RAYS
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Bebpo on March 15, 2020, 06:27:21 PM
Yeah, SRW has been in English for the last 3 entries on PS4/Switch (X/V/T). You just have to buy from the Asia store. Because of licensing they can't release in the West, but they do full English translations and English option for the region-free Asia releases now.

X/V are good srw games
T is pretty mediocre

I see my Super Robot Wars plug has gone ignored.

SUPER ROBOT WARS. They're in English now. You know what must be done.

Modern SRW games are terrible strategy games but fun visual novels.

Cindi would fucking haaate srw

what about SD GUNDAM G GENERATION CROSS RAYS

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Even less strategy and so slow it's almost unplayable.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 16, 2020, 11:34:32 AM
I see my Super Robot Wars plug has gone ignored.

SUPER ROBOT WARS. They're in English now. You know what must be done.

Is there a demo of one

There should be a demo up on any of the SE Asian Playstation stores in English. One of the newer games got a demo, I think it might've been T.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 19, 2020, 04:36:48 PM
I haven’t played it yet, but I’ve heard favorable opinions for Fell Seal, and it seems to have reviewed really well, too.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/699170/Fell_Seal_Arbiters_Mark/

I'm bumping this because Fell Seal is legit as fuck

Jobs:
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1017196441044811814/DD3CBCD7B6D09E14E644A81EF0601760C0BC81CC/)

Gameplay customisation - tweak how much dickery you want enemy AI pulling off, change whether you want units to have a temp penalty for dying, a permanent debuff, or permadeath(!) and how BS you want the RNG to be
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1017196441044811659/E757452AB0BE0C0CC3F1B3B3F59D69F52D71A66F/)

Customise units - theres some unlockable gear for game events, and you can upload your own character portraits for even more unique units
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1017196441044812158/526AFF67F9A440551304CA4E173D03BE85EBA63B/)

AI 'gambits' if you just wanna grind some maps or power level some new recruits
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1017196441044812312/308AA9BB907A533ACED9ED2AD6BC4A2AF1F428D6/)

all this plus mod support for making custom classes and shit.
This game is riduculously good if you like the FFTs
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Tuckers Law on May 19, 2020, 04:46:39 PM
Damn, now I definitely need to check it out.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 19, 2020, 05:09:54 PM
Xcom2 is coming to Switch at the end of the month, might be worth looking at.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on May 19, 2020, 06:24:23 PM
Knowing that cindi likes mass effect I think if they're going xcom they should go xcom PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD0BTFB3YbE

e:
actually xcom2 is dirt cheap in humble monthly, and maybe even cheaper / free from anyone who subs to humble monthly and already owns xcom 2
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: remy on May 19, 2020, 09:47:25 PM
Please. I'm dying for some turn based strategy. After I finish Souls 3 I plan on playing X-Com or replay FF Tactics or Shining Force II or maybe getting FE: Three Heroes.

There's the Disgaea games. Is the latest good? What's the best Disgaea game? Is 2 good? I've only played 1.

One unfortunate thing is that these days the serious storytelling srpg thing in the Tactics Ogre, Front Mission, Final Fantasy Tactics vein doesn't even exist. Srpgs today are mostly silly or tongue in cheek when I want serious political Shakespearean/matoor shit. I like what I've played of Fire Emblem series but gameplay is clearly what it's famous for. Although there is FE3 and 4 which appear to be more serious in its storytelling.

If you want a serious story, Disgaea isn't going to have it, but 4 and 5 are both pretty good games. I like the characters better in 4, but 5 is a better game with nicer sprites. Sometimes I just play a Disgaea when I want to make big numbers go up.

I found the cast of 2 pretty insufferable. I would say don't play it lol. The new ones are better.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: GreatSageEqualOfHeaven on April 27, 2021, 08:31:43 AM
https://store.steampowered.com/app/691790/Arcadian_Atlas/

another indie in development looking to scratch that highly specific itch
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 27, 2021, 11:42:09 AM
https://store.steampowered.com/app/691790/Arcadian_Atlas/

another indie in development looking to scratch that highly specific itch

(https://media.giphy.com/media/7MwIBlco42uk0/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Nintex on April 27, 2021, 12:11:06 PM
There was a pretty good Fire Emblem clone on Steam. I think it's called "Banner of the Maid" or something and takes place during the French revolution. It got great reviews.

Quote
Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle
Valkyria Chronicles 1 & 4
VC1 was incredible, I still have to pick up 4 some time. Mario+ Rabbids is great fun too.

There's also Fire Emblem: Three Houses which is a pretty great entry in the series.
Especially if apart from waging war you also like to drink tea. A sort of weeb game of thrones if you will.
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Tuckers Law on April 27, 2021, 01:22:46 PM
Mario & Rabbids was stupidly fun and far better an xcom clone than it had any right to be.  Where in the hell is our sequel, UbiSoft?  We know you guys like sequels...
Title: Re: Suggest modern turn based strategy games, particularly srpg
Post by: Mupepe on April 27, 2021, 09:35:22 PM
The gears of war tactics is pretty shallow, but really damn fun and satisfying