True badass fact: I've never seen (other than a trailer/ad) or read any Harry Potter material ;)
:ego :ego :ego
kids liked it.
the end.
I feel like this is your third anti-HP thread? HP has some seriously good writing in it (and some pretty poor stuff). Arguably it's not great fantasy, but its really good for young adult lit.
True badass fact: I've never seen (other than a trailer/ad) or read any Harry Potter material ;)Me neither. :idont
:ego :ego :ego
I remember reading a few books and seeing a few movies.
It's one of few fantasy franchises that have a lot of women as diehard fans. Every other adult woman I've known or dated loves Harry Potter. Even though I don't understand the appeal behind it so many years later, it's fanbase is pretty nontoxic imo.
Can't say that about many fambases.
whoremainey grew up to be hot :shaqshe's the blond in that underwater movie right? Or is she from some other kids fantasy series?
whoremainey grew up to be hot :shaq
(https://i.imgur.com/NdKRXY7.jpg)whoremainey grew up to be hot :shaqshe's the blond in that underwater movie right? Or is she from some other kids fantasy series?
I feel like this is your third anti-HP thread? HP has some seriously good writing in it (and some pretty poor stuff). Arguably it's not great fantasy, but its really good for young adult lit.
Let's repurpose this thread to hate on the Dresden Files.
Read the first four books in a week to impress a girl in grade school. I'm still an idiot.
Harry Poopoo Peepee is fine, it's children's entertainment. Everyone just gets mad about it now because some adults use it as a worldview, Read Another Book etc
I think it's a legit cool world. :-[
Harry Potter World at Universal or whatever is like my dream. 😍
Wanna go there and choose my wand. 😍
Everyone just gets mad about it now because some adults use it as a worldview, Read Another Book etceven this gets overstated, lets be real
I think it's a legit cool world. :-[
Harry Potter World at Universal or whatever is like my dream. 😍
Wanna go there and choose my wand. 😍
But it's a country. Not a world. A major flaw is you have no idea what's happening outside England. It's such a small world.
Read the first four books in a week to impress a girl in grade school. I'm still an idiot.
Impressive reading skills tho damn. It took me like two months over the summer to get through the fourth on its own. :whew
Wanna go there and choose my wand. 😍
Can we talk about how Dune (only the Frank Herbert stuff) is amazing and anyone that doesn't agree can fuck off right into a sandworm's ass?The first 3-4 Dune books are great stuff. They steadily decline in quality so when you stop feeling it just put the series away entirely. At some point one of his kids since picked the series back up and has been steadily been writing books even worse than their father's bottom tier material. :stahp
Wanna go there and choose my wand. 😍
...You already have a wand... :doge
Let's repurpose this thread to hate on the Dresden Files.
I read like 12 of these books from my YA years to early adulthood and they're all terrible. but they're openly garbage and never pretended to be anything but that.
Wanna go there and choose my wand. 😍
...You already have a wand... :doge
One that's magic. :doge
Let's repurpose this thread to hate on the Dresden Files.
I read like 12 of these books from my YA years to early adulthood and they're all terrible. but they're openly garbage and never pretended to be anything but that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/readanotherbook/I stopped after the fourth one as well. Everything started to feel real contrived even by YA/fantasy standards. I went back years later and watched the movies and it confirmed that I was right in doing so. The third book and especially movie adaptation are great though.
That aside: I stopped with Book 4. I should go back and buy/finish Book 5-7, but I just fell out of it. There was just other shit I had to do that I fell out of it.
And magic where that leads you to watch increasingly weird porn to perform is probably not the best kind of magic.Wanna go there and choose my wand. 😍
...You already have a wand... :doge
One that's magic. :doge
...Yours shoots white stuff... technically that's magic. :doge
https://www.reddit.com/r/readanotherbook/I stopped after the fourth one as well. Everything started to feel real contrived even by YA/fantasy standards. I went back years later and watched the movies and it confirmed that I was right in doing so. The third book and especially movie adaptation are great though.
That aside: I stopped with Book 4. I should go back and buy/finish Book 5-7, but I just fell out of it. There was just other shit I had to do that I fell out of it.
It's totally overstated like everything else on twitter and I originally wanted to put (a small subset of) in my post before I rewrote it but there's just too many good jokes about the relationship The Libs have to the reanimated corpse of dead children's properties but maybe we're all enslaved to that seeing as how we're posting on a spinoff section of a videogame forum in our 30s-50's. I'll leave the analysis of the ideological evolution of the Lion King property to Zizek.
The fact that we don't see much of the outside world is because that was never needed to solve any of their problems.back of the napkin analysis: it might be a standard ya trope to isolate your setting from adult influence. rowling does that twice by having the magic world hermetically sealed off from the normal world and then hogwarts sealed off from the rest of the magic world. like a series of matryoshka dolls. then she tried to make the stakes of world-significance in the last three books but all the locations where shit goes down are...the school, the ministry of magic, and their appendages. its like the credits roll of a jrpg where your character travels back through all the plot beats in reverse order
Read the first four books in a week to impress a girl in grade school. I'm still an idiot.
Impressive reading skills tho damn. It took me like two months over the summer to get through the fourth on its own. :whew
He did this last week.
If you’re really going to go all in on hating a fan base at least do some public good and make it adult Disney fans
It's totally overstated like everything else on twitter and I originally wanted to put (a small subset of) in my post before I rewrote it but there's just too many good jokes about the relationship The Libs have to the reanimated corpse of dead children's propertiesoh yeah, the books worldview is dumb. but also endlessly fun to make fun of cause rowling’s so loudly a boring ass burkean lib dem. but its like mandark said, once that fun crosses over into demonizing the fanbase as just-not-getting-it is where the brainworms start to set in. which is itself funny because those people are ostensibly left of center yet unaware that theyre doing consumerist moral psychology
(https://i.redd.it/92azxbk8rou41.jpg)slytherin are the closest analogues to literal nazis i can think of in popular fiction. this is brilliant metacommentary that op needs to hateread another book
The fact that we don't see much of the outside world is because that was never needed to solve any of their problems.back of the napkin analysis: it might be a standard ya trope to isolate your setting from adult influence. rowling does that twice by having the magic world hermetically sealed off from the normal world and then hogwarts sealed off from the rest of the magic world. like a series of matryoshka dolls. then she tried to make the stakes of world-significance in the last three books but all the locations where shit goes down are...the school, the ministry of magic, and their appendages. its like the credits roll of a jrpg where your character travels back through all the plot beats in reverse order
Yeah, pretty clear the HP series wasn't constructed to accommodate the high stakes and breadth of conflict that were in the last couple books, similar to how ASOAIF's ever-increasing entropy has made it impossible for Martin to wrap things up.at least in asoiaf the central characters would be the central characters in a continent wide war. The strain of keeping children as the center of the events of Harry Potter killed the later books.
If you’re really going to go all in on hating a fan base at least do some public good and make it adult Disney fans
I don't have the fanbase. I just don't get the appeal of them. I don't even remember why I liked them. The characters? But Harry sucks and Ron is even more sucky.
are the closest analogues to literal nazis i can think of in popular fiction. this is brilliant metacommentary that op needs to hateread another booklike, if anything, all the houses are in the top right -except hufflepuff because they arent even on the chart- and the author is clueless about this.
I remember turning 10 and waiting for my Hogwarts letter. :uguu
the reason rowling never touched on the outside world is simple: she's english.
i think its more she chose to world build at all rather than that she just did it poorly
(https://i.redd.it/92azxbk8rou41.jpg)slytherin are the closest analogues to literal nazis i can think of in popular fiction. this is brilliant metacommentary that op needs to hateread another book
3) the only...haha remember when you guys tried to mail Deathly Hallows spoilers to my house in 2007
:umad
i think its more she chose to world build at all rather than that she just did it poorly
I mean, it's both. But she really can't world-build.
"The wizards just vanish their poop."
Where the fuck does it it go then? The shadow realm? "*shrug*"
i think its more she chose to world build at all rather than that she just did it poorly
I mean, it's both. But she really can't world-build.
"The wizards just vanish their poop."
Where the fuck does it it go then? The shadow realm? "*shrug*"
It gets sent to unimportant countries in Africa, Asia, and South America.
Let's repurpose this thread to hate on the Dresden Files.
I don't think I know what that is.
Let's repurpose this thread to hate on the Dresden Files.
I don't think I know what that is.
I remember turning 10 and waiting for my Hogwarts letter. :uguu
HP is a great introduction to low fantasy and still a decent story. Just don’t pay attention to anything Rowling says about the universe post book 7 and you’re golden. Also the cormoran strike books are great mystery novels. Rowling’s strength was always in characterization and overarching narrative to the detriment of the little details. I still do a read through every now and again when I’m feeling down and want a comfort read.
It was alright ya lit. The world was pretty fun, got dumb once Rowling felt the need to go dark in the last couple. Think I read the fourth book 20+ times over the course of a summer when I was a kid.
If we're dunking on YA can we all agree Ender's Game is and always was trash?
Maybe it's cause I read it as a teen after a zillion of my white american friends told me it's the greatest book ever that I came away despising it, but shit sucked.
3) the only...haha remember when you guys tried to mail Deathly Hallows spoilers to my house in 2007
:umad
I'm still sorry I missed this. It was either that or the st.corny story that made me feel like I arrived after a golden age had passed.
Many of the issues I have with HP really make me come back to "but dude, it's kid shit and Rowling didn't think this through at all." Like how the world never really expands in any logical or meaningful way, or how Harry constantly makes colossal mistakes yet there are next to no consequences for anything he does.
HP is a great introduction to low fantasy and still a decent story. Just don’t pay attention to anything Rowling says about the universe post book 7 and you’re golden. Also the cormoran strike books are great mystery novels. Rowling’s strength was always in characterization and overarching narrative to the detriment of the little details. I still do a read through every now and again when I’m feeling down and want a comfort read.
lol what
as a kid the fantasy i got really into was his dark materials, earthsea quartet, brian jacques redwall furry shit, hobbt/lotr, the riftwar saga and yeah harry potter.
HP is a great introduction to low fantasy and still a decent story. Just don’t pay attention to anything Rowling says about the universe post book 7 and you’re golden. Also the cormoran strike books are great mystery novels. Rowling’s strength was always in characterization and overarching narrative to the detriment of the little details. I still do a read through every now and again when I’m feeling down and want a comfort read.
lol what
Low fantasy = Realistic world with some magics
High fantasy = Tolkien
tolkien, at least wrt other mythopoeic works, always gets referenced as low fantasy cause gandalf never turns his staff into a flamethrower
HP is a great introduction to low fantasy and still a decent story. Just don’t pay attention to anything Rowling says about the universe post book 7 and you’re golden. Also the cormoran strike books are great mystery novels. Rowling’s strength was always in characterization and overarching narrative to the detriment of the little details. I still do a read through every now and again when I’m feeling down and want a comfort read.
lol what
Low fantasy = Realistic world with some magics
High fantasy = Tolkien
tolkien, at least wrt other mythopoeic works, always gets referenced as low fantasy cause gandalf never turns his staff into a flamethrower
you can throw fireballs in dnd, right?tolkien, at least wrt other mythopoeic works, always gets referenced as low fantasy cause gandalf never turns his staff into a flamethrower
Then every DnD property is low-fantasy. :doge
you can throw fireballs in dnd, right?tolkien, at least wrt other mythopoeic works, always gets referenced as low fantasy cause gandalf never turns his staff into a flamethrower
Then every DnD property is low-fantasy. :doge
the tvtropes definition of high fantasy is rough conformity to the lotr/dnd template. but one of the criteria is how ‘big’ the magic is
you can throw fireballs in dnd, right?tolkien, at least wrt other mythopoeic works, always gets referenced as low fantasy cause gandalf never turns his staff into a flamethrower
Then every DnD property is low-fantasy. :doge
the tvtropes definition of high fantasy is rough conformity to the lotr/dnd template. but one of the criteria is how ‘big’ the magic is
I mean, Tolkien is high-fantasy in the sense there's a fucking magic ring that is able to be pin-pointed if put on by a massive flaming magic eye... If that's low-fantasy, then nearly everything is.
High fantasy is set in an alternative, fictional ("secondary") world, rather than the "real" or "primary" world.[2] This secondary world is usually internally consistent, but its rules differ from those of the primary world. By contrast, low fantasy is characterized by being set in the primary or real world, or a rational and familiar fictional world with the inclusion of magical elements (the more correct term for this is magical realism)
I mean, Tolkien is high-fantasyno, youre right. what im saying is that not even tolkien satisfies all the trademark characteristics of ‘high fantasy’
Air Bud is magical realism.
HP is a great introduction to low fantasy and still a decent story. Just don’t pay attention to anything Rowling says about the universe post book 7 and you’re golden. Also the cormoran strike books are great mystery novels. Rowling’s strength was always in characterization and overarching narrative to the detriment of the little details. I still do a read through every now and again when I’m feeling down and want a comfort read.
lol what
Low fantasy = Realistic world with some magics
High fantasy = Tolkien
it's neither realistic or possessing "some" magics
So what y'all are saying is we ended up in Ender's Game?
No wonder everything sucks.
The wildest thing about Enders game is that his genius siblings successfully conspire to manipulate world politics by shitposting online.
They did it by being Greek Statue Guys too
In any case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasyQuoteHigh fantasy is set in an alternative, fictional ("secondary") world, rather than the "real" or "primary" world.[2] This secondary world is usually internally consistent, but its rules differ from those of the primary world. By contrast, low fantasy is characterized by being set in the primary or real world, or a rational and familiar fictional world with the inclusion of magical elements (the more correct term for this is magical realism)
Air Bud is magical realism.
In any case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasyQuoteHigh fantasy is set in an alternative, fictional ("secondary") world, rather than the "real" or "primary" world.[2] This secondary world is usually internally consistent, but its rules differ from those of the primary world. By contrast, low fantasy is characterized by being set in the primary or real world, or a rational and familiar fictional world with the inclusion of magical elements (the more correct term for this is magical realism)
Isn't middle Earth basically Earth but a long, long time ago? So how does it constitute?
The wildest thing about Enders game is that his genius siblings successfully conspire to manipulate world politics by shitposting online.
They did it by being Greek Statue Guys too
Locke and Demosthenes :stahp
Peter did it by making frenzied mental Russiagate troop tracking posts. Like Nintex with China but if anyone actually cared :whew
In any case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasyQuoteHigh fantasy is set in an alternative, fictional ("secondary") world, rather than the "real" or "primary" world.[2] This secondary world is usually internally consistent, but its rules differ from those of the primary world. By contrast, low fantasy is characterized by being set in the primary or real world, or a rational and familiar fictional world with the inclusion of magical elements (the more correct term for this is magical realism)
Isn't middle Earth basically Earth but a long, long time ago? So how does it constitute?
No?
That's be like saying the Witcher universe is just Earth a "long, long time ago." (Which... sort-of, with the "Conjunction of the Spheres." :doge )
It's its own thing. There's nothing Tolkien wrote that makes it sound like an "alternate Earth." Yes, the world has "Earth plants" and trees and other things, but then that goes into "what would be fantasy in that case?"
The general idea of tolkiens work is that "things used to be better." As in, there used to be elves and hobbits and fantastical magic. A time when Man was truly great. So the idea it takes place outside the confines of this planet completely nullifies his actual content and messaging.
This just reminded me that I read like half a dozen Xanth books and even as a middle schooler I thought "these aren't very good."
HP is a great introduction to low fantasy and still a decent story. Just don’t pay attention to anything Rowling says about the universe post book 7 and you’re golden. Also the cormoran strike books are great mystery novels. Rowling’s strength was always in characterization and overarching narrative to the detriment of the little details. I still do a read through every now and again when I’m feeling down and want a comfort read.
lol what
Low fantasy = Realistic world with some magics
High fantasy = Tolkien
it's neither realistic or possessing "some" magics
Low fantasy or intrusion fantasy is a subgenre of fantasy fiction where magical events intrude on an otherwise normal world. It thus contrasts with high fantasy stories, which take place in fictional worlds with their own sets of rules and physical laws.
I remember reading a few books and seeing a few movies.
It's one of few fantasy franchises that have a lot of women as diehard fans. Every other adult woman I've known or dated loves Harry Potter. Even though I don't understand the appeal behind it so many years later, it's fanbase is pretty nontoxic imo.
Can't say that about many fambases.
Yeah Orson is a chud. it's funny how Alai is the peaceful representative of Islam but ends up being a dictator, Peter and Valentine achieve world peace through debate, Beans big brain intelligence solves all these problems. They say it's just kids entertainment or whatever but is it actually good to inject kids with great man theory? just look at the irrevocable damage orwell has done to the western brain.
The general idea of tolkiens work is that "things used to be better." As in, there used to be elves and hobbits and fantastical magic. A time when Man was truly great. So the idea it takes place outside the confines of this planet completely nullifies his actual content and messaging.
I'm going with the actual map Middle Earth has. AFAIK, there is nothing Tolkien wrote/hinted that makes the Elves going across the Ocean "oh, they're just going to Europe/Asia/America." :doge
And though I have not attempted to relate the shape of the mountains and land-masses to what geologists may say or surmise about the nearer past, imaginitively this ’history’ is supposed to take place in a period of the actual Old World of this planet.
In any case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasyQuoteHigh fantasy is set in an alternative, fictional ("secondary") world, rather than the "real" or "primary" world.[2] This secondary world is usually internally consistent, but its rules differ from those of the primary world. By contrast, low fantasy is characterized by being set in the primary or real world, or a rational and familiar fictional world with the inclusion of magical elements (the more correct term for this is magical realism)
Can we do Hunger Games next?
Good luck. Shit was as fad as fad gets popularity wise. Say what you will about Twilight, it has dedicated fans that stuck around and talk about it somehow. Outside of one hunger games movie being huge at the time I haven't heard a single person bring it up once and I don't think anyone here was a 12-22 year old girl when it came out.